An honor to participate alongside these awesome people. Also, before he said the three grains of rice were rice I thought they were hamster droppings after feeding hamsters food coloring.
I'm calling bullcrap on this video. If you take the time to watch this and accept it as if it is certainly true then you are admitting that nothing you do and say and think is anything but just an imitation of what you hear and have learned from only the people that you've been subjected to having met or heard your entire life and that it is inevitable that we will always encounter struggles amongst our peers only to have a primitive desire to want to take our pains out on them or even potentially harmless beings or individuals. Sure it all makes sense but how does that take in to account being actively critical of everything anyone says with the assumption that none of us have the means to knowing everything about what is "objectively" right and that discussion and thought can lead to new waves of cultures and new means of solving issues? It is in my opinion that this video could be potentially harmful for an audience member that has no desire of learning why people have any negative views on potentially dangerous or selfish people, groups, or ideologies and instead of wanting to try and help solve issues to make things better for everyone will merely shrug it off as nonsense and will ultimately leave themselves out from being able to grow and communicate for a productive cause for all.
He never claimed we couldn't have original ideas, and said that the scapegoat mechanism could be quelled by learning about it and using reason. Our thoughts are certainly shaped by what we absorb, but as conscious beings, we hold control over our minds. Also, one comment was enough
What I really like about that video is that Kevin is looking up to the camera, looking up to us. Ties perfectly with the video, and that idea of integrating camera tricks into the idea of the video is something Vsauce is doing quite a lot.
What I really like about this video is that Kevin purposefully decided to leave out the most important part about Girard's entire work although Girard spent the majority of his life writing on it. It's really odd.
@Jesus -_____- Not the official obviously, but yeah I absolutely love this band and have had that as my profile picture for like a decade now it feels like.
Great video! I never thought about scapegoats this way before. Thanks for inspiring me to keep experimenting with how I make videos to satisfy my mimetic desire
You may or may not have noticed, but the camera angle changed the entire feel of this video. The psychology behind putting yourself lower than someone else in physical space, adds a notion of empowerment to the person you are doing it to, because of this, I personally felt, kinda reassured or comforted by the conclusion rather than feeling small.
yes they are, the word meme was created with the meaning and explaining this same exact human behaviour and how we copy from other creatures/people. Sorry for the bad explanation for more info on what i am talking about read the book ''THE SELFISH GENE'' from Richard Dawkins
"They will become me and I will become them, each of us defeating the other, correcting the other, alloying ourselves into one omnipotent philosophy. Thus I will live forever. I'll make sure." Oryx was deep man.
Just a small point on Meltzoff's hypothesis; young children don't have a sense of 'object permanence' so when a mother closes her eyes, to a child (under 2 or so) the eyes just aren't there from the child's point of view. At that age, a child has no theory of mind, and cannot place any kind of association between what happens when they close their eyes and when the someone else does so. They do react differently when the mothers eyes are open, but this is due to an instinct to pay attention to a mothers eyes when they are there from the child point of view, not some understanding of a mothers intentions or experience. This is why young children can play peekaboo for what seems like forever. They are consistently surprised when you reappear out of what to them seems like nowhere. Also, the idea of desire not being innate, but an external force that can cause conflict was perfectly extolled in the 1984 movie The Gods must be Crazy.
Well noone is ever completely correct about anything to their ending point. We are humans; unique creatures, not perfect. There can always be something added, seen from a different perspective, done differently, and so on. At least they added that statement/idea to begin with.
I am 100% a scapegoat. i learned that i was a scapegoat while isolated in a rehab facility for months with nothing else to do but read the same two books over and over. i read a book that stated something about scapegoats and it really spoke to me in a way i cant even describe. (i would have definitely lost my mind if i didn't have books to read while in rehab while isolated for so long from the rest of the world). i don't know how i did it, but i turned myself into a scapegoat by my own bad choices, and my family started blaming me for everything, friends stopped talking to me completely. kicked out of my house several times, even kicked myself out several times. and then one day i just decided to leave my family and friends and live the street life for a bit. banished myself in a way i guess. and i seen that my leaving, well, it united them. they seem so happy without me now, so i'm happy for them now. but, now i'm ALONE. x'D i am a disappointment to my family, and myself. now i just sit kinda .. sit here, mind and body wasting away, watching the sun burn and the clouds pass. i'm 19 years old and i feel like i'm 90 because of the path i took in life. tho, i'm still alive so i cant complain. anyway nobody is gonna read this. just decided to leave a bit of myself here. bye~ keep on keeping on internet people. ~
I read it. Can't say our paths look anything alike, but our endpoints are kind of similar. Also, I watched some of your videos. If that's you in them, it looks like you have some musical talent that I hope you're putting to good use. In any case, I wish you well!
Rain Anathema no eff that, your family don't deserve you. And it seems like there are a lot of ACEs in that mess, built resilience and try to maximise your luck, one day things will get better
Don't act like you're the «special snowflake» that's smarter than everyone else. Everyone blames people unreasonably, often subconsciously, so shut ya' mouth, m8
These V-Sauce video essay presentations are absolutely dazzling to me. They present an idea, explore it, come to the morbid existential conclusion of the idea, then, rather than leaving their viewer on that solemn note they turn it around to the optimistic side of the topic. All of you guys who dedicate your lives, money, and passion to these projects are amazing people.
This is by far my favourite video on UA-cam. Ever since I saw it for the 1st time I keep seeing the scapegoat mechanism in places I never thought about. It made me realise how much I don't know about human behaviour and how much everyone, no matter how different, is the same. Can't wait to view it again in a couple of months 👏🏼👏🏼
I am just a copy of a copy of a copy Everything I say has come before Assembled into something into something into something I don't know for certain anymore I am just a shadow of a shadow of a shadow Always trying to catch up with myself I am just an echo of an echo of an echo Listening to someone's cry for help Look what you had to start Why all the change of heart? You need to play your part A copy of a copy of a Now look what you've gone and done Well that doesn't sound like fun See I'm not the only one A copy of a copy of a I am little pieces, little pieces, little pieces Pieces that were picked up on the way Imprinted with a purpose, with a purpose, with a purpose A purpose that's become quite clear today Look what you had to start Why all the change of heart? You need to play your part A copy of a copy of a Now look what you've gone and done Well that doesn't sound like fun See I'm not the only one A copy of a copy of a I am just a finger on a trigger on a finger Doing everything I'm told to do Always my intention my intention your attention Just doing everything you tell me to Look what you had to start Why all the change of heart? You need to play your part A copy of a copy of a Now look what you've gone and done Well that doesn't sound like fun See I'm not the only one A copy of a copy of a (Look what you had to start) Look what you had to start (Why all the change of heart?) Why all the change of heart? (You need to play your part) You need to play your part (A copy of a copy of a) A copy of a copy of a (Now look what you've gone and done) Now look what you've gone and done (Well that doesn't sound like fun) Well that doesn't sound like fun (See I'm not the only one) See I'm not the only one (A copy of a copy of a) A copy of a copy of a
Clicks on video... thinks it's title is "spacegoat" Here's Kevin talk about being like a muscular, sexy, strong, man Checks title again Questions my existence
I think I was going to type Thinks it's titled "spacegoat" but got distracted and changed what I was going to say without rereading what I had just typed
This explains so much in my life... I have always always always been the scapegoat in every social system I've ever been in... and I've been banned from so many schools, online game guilds, online forums, and groups of people all my life. But I always knew it was them who had the problem rather than anything wrong with me. I finally have a name for it! Scapegoating.
Normies are simply not aware of the memes when performing them. Kekistanis are, but may lose the scope of what memes really are at that fundamental level.
Not sure where you get your definition from but in memetics a meme is usually described as a self replicating idea/ unit of culture whereas mimetics refer to the philosophical concept of imitation. If you want you can read up on memetics and where the term comes from on wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memetics If you are interested in the difference to Mimetics you can read the wikipedia article on mimesis as well: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimesis And I realize that memetics and mimetics are closely related as memes rely on imitation, but they are definetely not the same.
This video is a masterpiece! I was blown away by Michael a few years ago, Jake got me last year. But this is how you won my respect as a creator Kevin!
It isn't elegant or well-thought out since he chose to omit the most important part of Girard's work. Do your own research and find out. This guys is a Charlatan
I've seen this many times in different social environments but never really understood it. My hypothesis was individuals with 'weaker' personalities mimicking the traits of more popular, dominant and charismatic members of the group to compensate for their lower position, and try to enhance their position in their social group. I've witnessed it in pairs of newly acquainted friends also, where one seems to slowly transform into the other. I find it fascinating but equally disturbing, and I'm convinced there is a correlation between this transformation of the self and having weak personality or little independence, as well as a desire for acceptance in a wider societal theatre, suggesting possible issues regarding anxiety/depression. This video makes so much sense, great watch.
This is the reason, why i watch V Sauce. These type of videos made from Jake, Kevin and Michael plus friends. Where at the end i always feel like, not only i learned something, but also their videos touched my heart in a way, so that i want to be a better human beeing. For this video and as always thanks for beeing awsome
"take a deep breath, tell yourself that you can only do your best, and worst-case scenario; you fail and your journey takes a little longer, Well I think the journey is the best bit. stay calm, do what you can, and you will be fine". (good luck with the test)
I love thinking about this concept of mimetic existence whenever I have to acknowledge sources of information. I always would wonder about writing a bibliography for a paper, or even something as unofficial as starting a sentence by disclaiming that you're about to relay information that you didn't experience first-hand. So much of how we learn and even the core of our ability to communicate comes from mimicking that we reach a point where we must walk a line between mimic and copy-paste, and I've always been interested in the gray area surrounding that line.
Well shit, this explains why i have no motivation to obtain desires, I don't have any aspirations to imitate anyone. I have no role models, or people i look up to anymore.
Passed out couch Potatos Do you really dont want to become rich? Dont want to be happy? Dont want to end the suffering of others? You are influenced by role models all the time, and it's not a bad thing.
perhaps, but i have yet to find one that inspires me, I normally just chock things up as useful information, or something i now understand, but i have no motivation to pursue any of those things sadly.
Passed out couch Potatos being a social person I believe helps push you towards wanting to aspire to things. I've been on both sides where I'm very social and have lots of friends to where I don't hang out with anyone or interact with anyone, and in my personal experience, it was much easier to be motivated to achieve something when there are a lot of people involved in your life.
I think there is one major flaw in Rene Girard's theory.. Yes, it is true that we gain almost all of our desires by seeing and imitating others. But we see many more people than we imitate. What determines who we decide to subconsciously imitate?
4xdblack I would say those we understand better and deal with more personally. Parents, close friends, spouse. Then your average friend, coworker, and boss. It could explain how over time close friends will develop a similar laugh pattern when together, but with another friend you may have a different laugh, or another laugh when in public. I know when I'm laughing I sometimes realize as I'm laughing that it's not the same as with other people.
MinecraftTestSquad that's a reasonable answer. Though that isn't necessarily always the case. Think of celebrities, such as Nicola Tesla, George R.R. Martin, or Adele. How many people have they inspired without ever directly affecting the lives of those people. Also, on the point of how friends develop similar laugh patterns.. I think that has less to do with a model/desire formula, and more along the lines of social conformity and acceptance. A subconscious effort to be more accepted by others by mirroring their actions.
I think that we are imitating people unconsciously only when we are young and didnt completely develop our personality, but after that we start imitating consciously by choice, i as for the affects of friends and who you deal with everyday i dont know how that apply, i do notice specially in the past year how my friends changed me and affected my behavior in public
Tuukka Utriainen some step out because they have no other choice like the guy in the video that got exiled.i dont see why you cant do it yourself though
Gods a meme. Culture is a meme. Cultures change, theres always an earlier religion. Humans were sacrificed, then goats in the bible. You know because it opens saying not to sacrifice humans anymore. Stories are memes, they change over time like chinese whispers or the telephone game. Before the flood was the epic of gilgamesh's flood, contradictory yet nearly copied word for word for a significant portion of it. And even the epic of gilgamesh was not unique, and neither the one before that. Humanity started sacrifice after farming and sedentary lifestyle, which is when they developed dogma. Religion's core is violence.
I love that so much of the end of this video was dedicated to so many creators who inspire us acknowledging those who inspired them. We really do stand on the shoulders of giants. 💜
This channel is so goddam awesome! If you're reading this Kevin, I wish you the best of luck in your continued video-building adventures. (Also, what is the name of that song just before the Who inspired you- segment?)
But... how the hell can we stop the scapegoat effect? How can we stop violence, without choosing a scapegoat? This effect can be seen like... everywhere, and it's kinda sad... Can we do something about it?
My guess is that the scapegoat sacrifice shouldn't just be something random but the cause, or even deeper the root cause, needs to be found. If it's humans then the root of all of us is our DNA.
SkyBeast MC we have already made a huge progress in decreasing it with knowledge.we just need to spread this knowledge.people will open their minds and think on their own
Marsman The root cause may be for example a fight for a girlfriend. In this case, I have no idea how to act. Choosing a scapegoat will solve the problem, but we want to avoid it, so... what to do? I did not understand the link between scapegoat and DNA though.
SkyBeast MC I was thinking on a larger scale, such as nations, or crime, or politics or what-have-you. I was getting at what makes us up, e.g. our personality and how we behave, is controlled for the most part by our DNA that is passed onto us by our mother and father. I've been thinking on the large scale for so long that I was forgetting about the small (personal) things. Sorry bout misunderstanding your original question.
I love watching videos and reading articles that make me think, especially in ways I never have before. This is one of those videos so thank you for making it. The more useful the information we absorb, the easier it is to critically think.
Especially since Kevin, in his amazing way, decided to leave out the most important part of Girard's work in a really intellectually dishonest way. So amazing!! Go Kevin!
What inspired me was old cartoons I watched as a kid, I always loved the idea of a world created by one person. I learned my love of science from my dad, who is a professor. And I learned about my love of comedy and entertainment from UA-camrs. And I'm sure one day I'll inspire the next generation as you did to me.
That add at the end pissed me off. I understand you need to support the work. It was hammered in after some almost genuine experiences. Really undermined the whole ending.
All three Vsauce channels are simply amazing. Never has there been a time where my general way of thinking and ideology has ever been so challenged as to every time I click another video. Thanks Vsauce as a collective of three amazing people, and as always I will continue watching.
"engrained into you" I see what you did there 😏. in all seriousness, this is an excellent video and scapegoating is currently happening to a certain Arabic country...
Or a certain kind of refugees. Seriously tho can they stop making it worse for themselves by declaring war on the west and bombing it jesus christ do you want our healthcare or not?
that random spanner that likes cheese Because every refugee is an extremist, yup totally, every refugee is an ISIS supporter Sure the cultural differences are large especially when it comes to things like misogyny, gays, the separation of church and state, freedom of speech... That culture does not define people, it does influence them though (I'm not saying everyone who lives there believes in all these things, I'm just saying people there are more likely to do so than people in the West), but if a proper system is used for integration then people could adapt
This is really informative to me in an unintentional way, as I have Autism and now I have a better understanding of the fact that most people want to be "cool". I never wanted that. Great video.
You know Michael and Jake were my first favorites but these kind of videos tickle my fancy so much and make you more and more my favorite. Thanks Kevin.
I've not read Dostoevsky but that line of his reminds of something I've always felt, translated into words: "Alone but not lonely, is better than lonely but not alone."
Then you are inhuman and probably cannot speak, type or write because you failed to imitate your parents, you cant follow social trends, because you have no model figures to imitate that follow said trends, you cant know to work or play, because you would had never learned to do so... The list goes on. Now if you think that YOU have no desire to imitate any model figures... Then you should reconsider. Because you will. And you do. No matter what you do. Whether it is conscious or subconscious.
this actually helped me a whole lot. i'm in a bad place and it's nice to know that even if i don't realize it on the surface i'm making or have made a difference to someone out there. thanks kevin
"So you were bullied as a little kid?"
Me: No, I was chosen as the symbolic bearer of the sins of the people, thus restoring peace in the community.
Translation:he was blamed.
Lemon Boy oof mood *annyed cat eating meal with woman on the left pointing in unerring surprise*
This has Big Naruto ̶E̶n̶e̶r̶g̶y̶ Chakra.
@@AstraIVagabond ... have you even BEEN in these type of situations!?!?!?!?
@@Bleepbleepblorbus I have been
An honor to participate alongside these awesome people. Also, before he said the three grains of rice were rice I thought they were hamster droppings after feeding hamsters food coloring.
Thanks for being involved! The hamster droppings video sounds like a good one. I'll have to contemplate that.
SmarterEveryDay lmao
Oh Destin. Never stop being you. or... I suppose, never stop being the people you aspire to be.
I'm calling bullcrap on this video. If you take the time to watch this and accept it as if it is certainly true then you are admitting that nothing you do and say and think is anything but just an imitation of what you hear and have learned from only the people that you've been subjected to having met or heard your entire life and that it is inevitable that we will always encounter struggles amongst our peers only to have a primitive desire to want to take our pains out on them or even potentially harmless beings or individuals. Sure it all makes sense but how does that take in to account being actively critical of everything anyone says with the assumption that none of us have the means to knowing everything about what is "objectively" right and that discussion and thought can lead to new waves of cultures and new means of solving issues? It is in my opinion that this video could be potentially harmful for an audience member that has no desire of learning why people have any negative views on potentially dangerous or selfish people, groups, or ideologies and instead of wanting to try and help solve issues to make things better for everyone will merely shrug it off as nonsense and will ultimately leave themselves out from being able to grow and communicate for a productive cause for all.
He never claimed we couldn't have original ideas, and said that the scapegoat mechanism could be quelled by learning about it and using reason. Our thoughts are certainly shaped by what we absorb, but as conscious beings, we hold control over our minds. Also, one comment was enough
Oh look. Kevin is making us question our existence again.
*literally every single vsauce episode* FTFY
I do that anyway, but I appreciate the help!
nan li it feels very awkward that he's lookig uo though
Have you seen exurb1a? If not, go check it out. I recommend starting with "42"
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What I really like about that video is that Kevin is looking up to the camera, looking up to us.
Ties perfectly with the video, and that idea of integrating camera tricks into the idea of the video is something Vsauce is doing quite a lot.
What I really like about this video is that Kevin purposefully decided to leave out the most important part about Girard's entire work although Girard spent the majority of his life writing on it. It's really odd.
@Jesus -_____- Not the official obviously, but yeah I absolutely love this band and have had that as my profile picture for like a decade now it feels like.
My neck hurts
I suddenly have a strong desire for a _robust stamp collection._
one question remains:
who do we kill for that collection?
This guy is stopping us from getting a robust stamp collection. /\
_philately_
Great video! I never thought about scapegoats this way before. Thanks for inspiring me to keep experimenting with how I make videos to satisfy my mimetic desire
Thanks for sharing your inspiration! See you at VidCon!
hey its durik from veribsatium
no its dirk from vastablerium
Hello Derk from Veristablium
Hey Denek!
"Your mom is blue rice"- Kevin 2017
CCCorbinoes sick burn Kevin
LOL
Savagery.
"why do you speak your native language?" - Kevin, 2017
how did this get so many likes lmao
"Yo momma is blue rice!"
*OHHHHHHHHHHHH*
Blue rice is the next best roast
You may or may not have noticed, but the camera angle changed the entire feel of this video. The psychology behind putting yourself lower than someone else in physical space, adds a notion of empowerment to the person you are doing it to, because of this, I personally felt, kinda reassured or comforted by the conclusion rather than feeling small.
His neck must hurt
my neck hurts just by looking at him
Andres Tapia empathy
200th like.
I need to stop commenting this.
I KNOW RIGHT
i read it like "mustard"
From a Mimetic Culture to a Memetic Culture.
We have evolved, indeed.
Dewicre omg hahaha
They are the same thing
not really lol
Dewicre No, we've devolved.
yes they are, the word meme was created with the meaning and explaining this same exact human behaviour and how we copy from other creatures/people. Sorry for the bad explanation for more info on what i am talking about read the book ''THE SELFISH GENE'' from Richard Dawkins
"They will become me and I will become them, each of us defeating the other, correcting the other, alloying ourselves into one omnipotent philosophy. Thus I will live forever. I'll make sure."
Oryx was deep man.
Did someone else also tear up in the ending? I thought it was beautifully set up
Yeah. It been a sad week. Anthony left smosh too.
I don't really watch Smosh, but I'm sorry to hear that friendo.
yeah that ad spot for curiosity box was a masterpiece
No, because I've been a scapegoat before, so that Russian guy was right.
Never mind I cried too
Just a small point on Meltzoff's hypothesis; young children don't have a sense of 'object permanence' so when a mother closes her eyes, to a child (under 2 or so) the eyes just aren't there from the child's point of view. At that age, a child has no theory of mind, and cannot place any kind of association between what happens when they close their eyes and when the someone else does so. They do react differently when the mothers eyes are open, but this is due to an instinct to pay attention to a mothers eyes when they are there from the child point of view, not some understanding of a mothers intentions or experience.
This is why young children can play peekaboo for what seems like forever. They are consistently surprised when you reappear out of what to them seems like nowhere.
Also, the idea of desire not being innate, but an external force that can cause conflict was perfectly extolled in the 1984 movie The Gods must be Crazy.
Mike James +
Well noone is ever completely correct about anything to their ending point. We are humans; unique creatures, not perfect. There can always be something added, seen from a different perspective, done differently, and so on. At least they added that statement/idea to begin with.
I am 100% a scapegoat. i learned that i was a scapegoat while isolated in a rehab facility for months with nothing else to do but read the same two books over and over. i read a book that stated something about scapegoats and it really spoke to me in a way i cant even describe. (i would have definitely lost my mind if i didn't have books to read while in rehab while isolated for so long from the rest of the world). i don't know how i did it, but i turned myself into a scapegoat by my own bad choices, and my family started blaming me for everything, friends stopped talking to me completely. kicked out of my house several times, even kicked myself out several times. and then one day i just decided to leave my family and friends and live the street life for a bit. banished myself in a way i guess. and i seen that my leaving, well, it united them. they seem so happy without me now, so i'm happy for them now. but, now i'm ALONE. x'D i am a disappointment to my family, and myself. now i just sit kinda .. sit here, mind and body wasting away, watching the sun burn and the clouds pass. i'm 19 years old and i feel like i'm 90 because of the path i took in life. tho, i'm still alive so i cant complain. anyway nobody is gonna read this. just decided to leave a bit of myself here. bye~ keep on keeping on internet people. ~
I read it. Can't say our paths look anything alike, but our endpoints are kind of similar. Also, I watched some of your videos. If that's you in them, it looks like you have some musical talent that I hope you're putting to good use. In any case, I wish you well!
Rain Anathema no eff that, your family don't deserve you.
And it seems like there are a lot of ACEs in that mess, built resilience and try to maximise your luck, one day things will get better
Cedrus Mind if this is true you reserve a reponse from I. Life is quite literally what you make it.
so how do you access the internet? anyways, what a lame life you have, maybe you could've do better if you keep using the internet
:(
This camera angle makes me feel like Kevin's in my toilet.
LMAO
I have been on my toilet for 30 minutes watching UA-cam videos
Who said he wasn't?
So you telling me that people like to beat up shit that has nothing to do with the problem
Welcome to life!
Lucas Maine False flagging is also a thing...
Lucas Maine yup its been true throughout i mean jews Muslims irish etc were all scapegoats. Muslims still are
this recording angle makes me uncomfortable kevin
LuigiMustache
likely intentional.
So basically, people make their own mistakes, leading them to blame and punish another person. Yup. Logic.
yup life
Don't act like you're the «special snowflake» that's smarter than everyone else. Everyone blames people unreasonably, often subconsciously, so shut ya' mouth, m8
carsgobroom
We're not all narcissists you special snowflake.
@carsgobroom
Some people only blame themselves unreasonably. Those people are most commonly called "depressed". Funny isn't it.
Gaslighting?
These V-Sauce video essay presentations are absolutely dazzling to me. They present an idea, explore it, come to the morbid existential conclusion of the idea, then, rather than leaving their viewer on that solemn note they turn it around to the optimistic side of the topic.
All of you guys who dedicate your lives, money, and passion to these projects are amazing people.
making this video must have been very painful for your neck
is the looking up symbolical or did the tripod
just get stuck?
Nice video. See you next century.
Good one
Red Salmon explain the joke
They don't upload very often.
Yahya Fihel thx
It's worth the wait tho
Vsauce: talking about scientific knowledge
Me: nice shirt you got there
why am i so weirdddd
NUGGET!!!! Łmz
I cant even imagine how much your neck must have hurt after finishing shooting this video
1:47 i learned english entirely by just watching UA-cam and that shows once again that learning from experiencing is very normal
and as always, i'm left here having an existential crisis
Jade Nykänen that is hilarious!! xD
Jade Nykänen This video is the solution to an existential crisis. We're really all one thing. It's cool.
Every time I watch a Vsauce video I have an existential crisis!
Omg same
In a nagging tone:
*The existential crisis means it's working.*
existential crisis! at the disco
Love your enthusiasm for the topic
This is freakin fantastic
Are you Edward Snowdens long lost brother wtf?
Nope
This is by far my favourite video on UA-cam. Ever since I saw it for the 1st time I keep seeing the scapegoat mechanism in places I never thought about. It made me realise how much I don't know about human behaviour and how much everyone, no matter how different, is the same. Can't wait to view it again in a couple of months 👏🏼👏🏼
I am just a copy of a copy of a copy
Everything I say has come before
Assembled into something into something into something
I don't know for certain anymore
I am just a shadow of a shadow of a shadow
Always trying to catch up with myself
I am just an echo of an echo of an echo
Listening to someone's cry for help
Look what you had to start
Why all the change of heart?
You need to play your part
A copy of a copy of a
Now look what you've gone and done
Well that doesn't sound like fun
See I'm not the only one
A copy of a copy of a
I am little pieces, little pieces, little pieces
Pieces that were picked up on the way
Imprinted with a purpose, with a purpose, with a purpose
A purpose that's become quite clear today
Look what you had to start
Why all the change of heart?
You need to play your part
A copy of a copy of a
Now look what you've gone and done
Well that doesn't sound like fun
See I'm not the only one
A copy of a copy of a
I am just a finger on a trigger on a finger
Doing everything I'm told to do
Always my intention my intention your attention
Just doing everything you tell me to
Look what you had to start
Why all the change of heart?
You need to play your part
A copy of a copy of a
Now look what you've gone and done
Well that doesn't sound like fun
See I'm not the only one
A copy of a copy of a
(Look what you had to start)
Look what you had to start
(Why all the change of heart?)
Why all the change of heart?
(You need to play your part)
You need to play your part
(A copy of a copy of a)
A copy of a copy of a
(Now look what you've gone and done)
Now look what you've gone and done
(Well that doesn't sound like fun)
Well that doesn't sound like fun
(See I'm not the only one)
See I'm not the only one
(A copy of a copy of a)
A copy of a copy of a
this is rly good o:
copy of a - nine inch nails
Poetic
Edgy
And not bad
Clicks on video... thinks it's title is "spacegoat"
Here's Kevin talk about being like a muscular, sexy, strong, man
Checks title again
Questions my existence
I misread the title too.
Oh I read it as spacegoats and then after the video ended read this comment
jollow250 Yup.
I also read it as spacegoat
I think I was going to type Thinks it's titled "spacegoat"
but got distracted and changed what I was going to say without rereading what I had just typed
My pet goat escaped its enclosure. It's a scapegoat.
close. It's e-scape goat
crazzilla it's an electronic scapegoat?
its all digital nowadays. even the fauna and flora
is that the true will logo?
Master Therion
mindless self indulgence fan?
this video hit hard, great work
0:17 "you'll be the green rice" *WAIT NO I WANNA BE THE BLUE RICE*
Adele Hare Wha?
You are the blue rice to someone else
😆
Then you are...
YO MOM
This explains so much in my life... I have always always always been the scapegoat in every social system I've ever been in... and I've been banned from so many schools, online game guilds, online forums, and groups of people all my life. But I always knew it was them who had the problem rather than anything wrong with me. I finally have a name for it! Scapegoating.
so the first thing we ever do after we're born is try to spread a meme?
So there are no normies?
*my life is a lie*
Normies are simply not aware of the memes when performing them. Kekistanis are, but may lose the scope of what memes really are at that fundamental level.
mimetics != memetics
*meme* _(noun)_ an element of a culture or system of behaviour passed from one individual to another by imitation or other non-genetic means.
Not sure where you get your definition from but in memetics a meme is usually described as a self replicating idea/ unit of culture whereas mimetics refer to the philosophical concept of imitation.
If you want you can read up on memetics and where the term comes from on wikipedia:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memetics
If you are interested in the difference to Mimetics you can read the wikipedia article on mimesis as well:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimesis
And I realize that memetics and mimetics are closely related as memes rely on imitation, but they are definetely not the same.
This video is a masterpiece! I was blown away by Michael a few years ago, Jake got me last year. But this is how you won my respect as a creator Kevin!
Loved this, it really hits home. Thanks
Maybe you should keep reading Girard and find out how hard it hits home (and how Kevin forgot the most crucial part of his work)
The "Who Inspired You?" segment surely was a pleasant surprise
"They aren't everyone. You are everyone." Kevin 2017
I need you to make a vid on how that knife lifted the jar of rice
go and study some basic science .
I cherish each time any of the vsauces upload because you never know the next time they’ll upload again.
Beautiful...another elegantly arranged and well-thought-out work of philosophy.
Johnny Garcia with some lies here and there
Mork 666 wot
Suani Avila agreed
It isn't elegant or well-thought out since he chose to omit the most important part of Girard's work. Do your own research and find out. This guys is a Charlatan
I've seen this many times in different social environments but never really understood it. My hypothesis was individuals with 'weaker' personalities mimicking the traits of more popular, dominant and charismatic members of the group to compensate for their lower position, and try to enhance their position in their social group.
I've witnessed it in pairs of newly acquainted friends also, where one seems to slowly transform into the other. I find it fascinating but equally disturbing, and I'm convinced there is a correlation between this transformation of the self and having weak personality or little independence, as well as a desire for acceptance in a wider societal theatre, suggesting possible issues regarding anxiety/depression.
This video makes so much sense, great watch.
5 years later and I can point to this video as one of the most perspective-changing things I've ever seen. I think about it a lot.
Dong, then Vsauce2, does this mean a Vsauce upload soon??!?!
We can only hope
Maxx Bailey Also VSauce 3
Yes
isn't VS1 still out traveling with Adam Savage?
No, he's working on a new video. He tweeted yesterday about interviewing some people for his new video i believe, so it's coming.
so basically, you, are a mix of everything you know, that's poetic.
ok....
Notumengi
Everything is a remix
I just realized that kung fu panda 2 or 3 tried to teach the same thing
it's just logical. New information can't be createed from nothing, it always just transforms.
"I am alone and I am everyone."
Damn, this is pwoerful!
This is the reason, why i watch V Sauce. These type of videos made from Jake, Kevin and Michael plus friends. Where at the end i always feel like, not only i learned something, but also their videos touched my heart in a way, so that i want to be a better human beeing. For this video and as always thanks for beeing awsome
10:30 “enGRAINED in you” I see what you did there
great video in a time of intolerance, when scapegoats are created to diverse us from the tensions inside our own socioeconomic system.
this video is pretty amazing holy fuck
when you're on UA-cam 24/7 so you don't need notifications
When you do the same even though you have a very important test tomorrow you didn't learn for yet.
"take a deep breath, tell yourself that you
can only do your best, and worst-case scenario; you fail and your journey takes
a little longer, Well I think the journey is the best bit. stay calm, do what
you can, and you will be fine". (good luck with the test)
shaun brown
Lol chill out it's a math test I never learn for them but still always get A's
Still, thank you :)
oh..., well..., erm..., print out my comment and on
your way in to the test hand it to someone who looks nervous lol
shaun brown
I will xD
I love thinking about this concept of mimetic existence whenever I have to acknowledge sources of information. I always would wonder about writing a bibliography for a paper, or even something as unofficial as starting a sentence by disclaiming that you're about to relay information that you didn't experience first-hand. So much of how we learn and even the core of our ability to communicate comes from mimicking that we reach a point where we must walk a line between mimic and copy-paste, and I've always been interested in the gray area surrounding that line.
vsauce has an strategy in their speech to keep you hooked. a pretty good one.
I misread the title at first. I was so confused, wondering when he'd get to the space goats already.
Well shit, this explains why i have no motivation to obtain desires, I don't have any aspirations to imitate anyone. I have no role models, or people i look up to anymore.
Passed out couch Potatos Do you really dont want to become rich? Dont want to be happy? Dont want to end the suffering of others? You are influenced by role models all the time, and it's not a bad thing.
Tommero I don't think its a bad thing, and I understand why someone would have those sorts of things but I have no goals for anything that you named
Passed out couch Potatos Your role model doesn't have to be a human. It could be a movie or something
perhaps, but i have yet to find one that inspires me, I normally just chock things up as useful information, or something i now understand, but i have no motivation to pursue any of those things sadly.
Passed out couch Potatos being a social person I believe helps push you towards wanting to aspire to things. I've been on both sides where I'm very social and have lots of friends to where I don't hang out with anyone or interact with anyone, and in my personal experience, it was much easier to be motivated to achieve something when there are a lot of people involved in your life.
I think there is one major flaw in Rene Girard's theory.. Yes, it is true that we gain almost all of our desires by seeing and imitating others. But we see many more people than we imitate. What determines who we decide to subconsciously imitate?
4xdblack I would say those we understand better and deal with more personally. Parents, close friends, spouse. Then your average friend, coworker, and boss. It could explain how over time close friends will develop a similar laugh pattern when together, but with another friend you may have a different laugh, or another laugh when in public. I know when I'm laughing I sometimes realize as I'm laughing that it's not the same as with other people.
MinecraftTestSquad that's a reasonable answer. Though that isn't necessarily always the case. Think of celebrities, such as Nicola Tesla, George R.R. Martin, or Adele. How many people have they inspired without ever directly affecting the lives of those people.
Also, on the point of how friends develop similar laugh patterns.. I think that has less to do with a model/desire formula, and more along the lines of social conformity and acceptance. A subconscious effort to be more accepted by others by mirroring their actions.
those who are the most successful at climbing the dominance hierarchy
I think that we are imitating people unconsciously only when we are young and didnt completely develop our personality, but after that we start imitating consciously by choice, i as for the affects of friends and who you deal with everyday i dont know how that apply, i do notice specially in the past year how my friends changed me and affected my behavior in public
I think we do subconsciously imitate everyone, to extent.
Dang. What an emotional rollercoaster.
This guy is getting you views a year or two later (I've watched two year old videos by him) and deserves a lot of recognition.
This video touched me
TheOneBoQuA An old man touched me
*nut*
Touch, I remember touch
Show us on the phone where the video touch you. It’s okay your safe here
@@megasupreme9985 (●__●)
Ty for making Vsauce1 content for us while Michael left us. Love this and keep it up!
So how can one even step out of the crowd? Is it even possible since we get affected by everyone?
btw gotta say this was a really interesting video and topic!
Tuukka Utriainen some step out because they have no other choice like the guy in the video that got exiled.i dont see why you cant do it yourself though
if too many people step out it is not
called stepping out, its a crowd shuffling to the left!
Tuukka Utriainen don't step out of the crowd, curate it, control it
Gods a meme. Culture is a meme. Cultures change, theres always an earlier religion. Humans were sacrificed, then goats in the bible. You know because it opens saying not to sacrifice humans anymore. Stories are memes, they change over time like chinese whispers or the telephone game. Before the flood was the epic of gilgamesh's flood, contradictory yet nearly copied word for word for a significant portion of it. And even the epic of gilgamesh was not unique, and neither the one before that. Humanity started sacrifice after farming and sedentary lifestyle, which is when they developed dogma. Religion's core is violence.
Everytime he ends a video IT GIVES ME GOOSEBUMPS IT'S SUCH AN INCREDIBLE ENDING EVERY SINGLE TIME!!!
I love that so much of the end of this video was dedicated to so many creators who inspire us acknowledging those who inspired them. We really do stand on the shoulders of giants. 💜
0:18 That's not red rice, that's the red pill that we desire.
[truth bombing intensifies]
This channel is so goddam awesome! If you're reading this Kevin, I wish you the best of luck in your continued video-building adventures. (Also, what is the name of that song just before the Who inspired you- segment?)
Hugo Nelsson even with the lies?
But... how the hell can we stop the scapegoat effect? How can we stop violence, without choosing a scapegoat?
This effect can be seen like... everywhere, and it's kinda sad... Can we do something about it?
My guess is that the scapegoat sacrifice shouldn't just be something random but the cause, or even deeper the root cause, needs to be found. If it's humans then the root of all of us is our DNA.
SkyBeast MC we have already made a huge progress in decreasing it with knowledge.we just need to spread this knowledge.people will open their minds and think on their own
Marsman
The root cause may be for example a fight for a girlfriend. In this case, I have no idea how to act.
Choosing a scapegoat will solve the problem, but we want to avoid it, so... what to do?
I did not understand the link between scapegoat and DNA though.
im commenting because im interested in the answer
SkyBeast MC
I was thinking on a larger scale, such as nations, or crime, or politics or what-have-you. I was getting at what makes us up, e.g. our personality and how we behave, is controlled for the most part by our DNA that is passed onto us by our mother and father. I've been thinking on the large scale for so long that I was forgetting about the small (personal) things. Sorry bout misunderstanding your original question.
I love watching videos and reading articles that make me think, especially in ways I never have before. This is one of those videos so thank you for making it. The more useful the information we absorb, the easier it is to critically think.
Watching my kids learn something new is the best feeling in the world. This explains a lot.
Oh wow... just wow... this triggered a whole new level of philosophic thinking in me... you never seize to amaze me Kevin... Amazing video
Especially since Kevin, in his amazing way, decided to leave out the most important part of Girard's work in a really intellectually dishonest way. So amazing!! Go Kevin!
I eat rice shut up
I am the rice
Human being Humane human You must eat it to become it.
Yes
You are what you eat.
Eat the rice. *Become* the rice.
Please stop eating my parents.
Wonderfully thoughtful video. I hope that many people think on it.
Very good video, this does a great job at explaining tensions between groups of people today.
Every so often there's a video on UA-cam that really just hits you and does something to you, and this was one of those. Thank you
9:35
how I feel when browsing Tumblr
Vsause2 looks like Jesse from breaking bad in his new channel pic
Like for real
So much knowledge flowing into mah head
I rewatch this video once in a while, to me at least this is one of the best pieces of culture ever made.
@@sussusamogus9596 You ate blinded by the culture you grew up in and didn't choose, I say you should start to think authentically.
What inspired me was old cartoons I watched as a kid, I always loved the idea of a world created by one person. I learned my love of science from my dad, who is a professor. And I learned about my love of comedy and entertainment from UA-camrs. And I'm sure one day I'll inspire the next generation as you did to me.
Vsauce kevin here, look at this rice............
So you are not you, you are everyone.
And as always, thanks for watching.
WTF
Sebastian Wilson HAHAHAHUAA
Very thought provoking.
Guess which religion is based on a scapegoat...MIND=BLOWN
TheFunFantasy Most religions lol
DavisSgt i really thought there is only one
Buddhism is based on scapegoating...
the red rice.
TheFunFantasy New Atheism?
Revi M Fadli what is "New Atheism"
That add at the end pissed me off. I understand you need to support the work. It was hammered in after some almost genuine experiences. Really undermined the whole ending.
All three Vsauce channels are simply amazing. Never has there been a time where my general way of thinking and ideology has ever been so challenged as to every time I click another video. Thanks Vsauce as a collective of three amazing people, and as always I will continue watching.
"engrained into you" I see what you did there 😏. in all seriousness, this is an excellent video and scapegoating is currently happening to a certain Arabic country...
Ahmad Almubarak scapegoating*
Or a certain kind of refugees.
Seriously tho can they stop making it worse for themselves by declaring war on the west and bombing it jesus christ do you want our healthcare or not?
that random spanner that likes cheese Question: Have you ever heard of the term "False Flag"? Try not believing liars.
that random spanner that likes cheese
Because every refugee is an extremist, yup totally, every refugee is an ISIS supporter
Sure the cultural differences are large especially when it comes to things like misogyny, gays, the separation of church and state, freedom of speech...
That culture does not define people, it does influence them though (I'm not saying everyone who lives there believes in all these things, I'm just saying people there are more likely to do so than people in the West), but if a proper system is used for integration then people could adapt
I was a scapegoat. I'm goat that just escaped my farm.
"I was made fun of... so that many others can rejoice"
please read that in a brooding soft voice thanks
This is really informative to me in an unintentional way, as I have Autism and now I have a better understanding of the fact that most people want to be "cool". I never wanted that. Great video.
G.I. Joe PSAs are one of the greatest sets of online video. Very few things online top their influence and general creativity/quality.
You know your life is worth nothing when you get compared to colored rice. :c
✧ Sanguinary value is an illusion
✧ Sanguinary actually you're the most important person in your life
rice is life (in Chinese this is literal)
✧ Sanguinary sort yourself out Bucko and look up Jordan B Peterson on UA-cam
Quinson Rice saves iPhone lives. (or is it the asian engineers that get attracted to it? hmm...)
thanks for being fucking awesome
This is for me the best video on all the vsauce channels !!!
eliouz but it failed to tell the truth on the Salem trials...look it up on your own!!
You know Michael and Jake were my first favorites but these kind of videos tickle my fancy so much and make you more and more my favorite. Thanks Kevin.
I've not read Dostoevsky but that line of his reminds of something I've always felt, translated into words: "Alone but not lonely, is better than lonely but not alone."
Watching this video made my neck hurt.
7:07 covfefe
osama al-enzi lol
same.
osama al-enzi Cavfafy
osama al-enzi thank you sm
So what happens if you have 0 desire to imitate any model figure?
InMaTeofDeath you become a new meme
You watch people imitate others on youtube all day.
Then you didn't understand the video.
InMaTeofDeath did you watch the whole entire video?
Then you are inhuman and probably cannot speak, type or write because you failed to imitate your parents, you cant follow social trends, because you have no model figures to imitate that follow said trends, you cant know to work or play, because you would had never learned to do so... The list goes on.
Now if you think that YOU have no desire to imitate any model figures... Then you should reconsider. Because you will. And you do. No matter what you do. Whether it is conscious or subconscious.
this actually helped me a whole lot. i'm in a bad place and it's nice to know that even if i don't realize it on the surface i'm making or have made a difference to someone out there. thanks kevin
This was the most powerful and compelling thing I have ever seen.