Frost Giants in Conan Lore (Study and Theory Crafting)

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  • Опубліковано 26 гру 2024

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  • @andreasmuller4172
    @andreasmuller4172 Рік тому +55

    You mentioned that frost giants appear only to people who have experienced or are currently undergoing a near death experience, and if memory serves in your video about sorcery you mentioned necromancers can channel ice from the land of the dead, so perhaps the reason these spirit giants appear only to the dying is because they inhabit the same frosty realm of death? The afterlife of the unworthy in norse mythology is a frozen wasteland and conan doesn't seem to be a stranger to reimagining and melding concepts from myth, so perhaps the realm of the frost giants and by consequence Ymir is one such melding of Helheim and Valhalla.

    • @kregy7509
      @kregy7509 10 місяців тому

      In Dante's Inferno one level of hell houses the frozen lake Cocytus a place for traitors. Though the name itself is from Greek mythology and it refers to an underworld river in Hades(the realm). Not sure if it was frozen or even cold in the Greek origins though.

  • @Dexroid
    @Dexroid Рік тому +21

    10:24 "They would hate this channel." Got a good chuckle out of me.
    Great job again, Grim.

  • @johnmccarron7066
    @johnmccarron7066 Рік тому +28

    When you consider the aspect of near death or post death encounters with Frost Giants, Atali might not be an outright temptress, but a straight up psychopomp.

    • @GrimDarkHalfOff
      @GrimDarkHalfOff  Рік тому +12

      Been with too many of those

    • @Damienx247
      @Damienx247 Рік тому +8

      Well, she learned to her horror that Conan wasn't ready for the afterlife.

  • @thescarletpumpernel3305
    @thescarletpumpernel3305 Рік тому +26

    the theories about Odin being a bronze age King from the Black Sea region who ended up being worshipped as a God in proto-Norse and Germanic culture fits well with the Aesir and Vanir being actual tribes of people.

    • @mikesecondname
      @mikesecondname 10 місяців тому

      It also fits with the race of giants being a third tribe too. Giants being the first group into a region and being taken over/killed/exiled by the Æsir who then repelled the Vanir who then married into the Æsir to avoid being replaced like the giants were. I’m not doing the theory justice but that’s pretty much it in a nutshell. Crecganford on UA-cam has a pretty compelling video about it. It’s very #indoeuropean 😊 ☕️ 🫖

  • @madtrapper1312
    @madtrapper1312 Рік тому +29

    By crom this was educational

  • @fireball6840
    @fireball6840 Рік тому +15

    Conan Exiles was my first step into the Conan-verse and I knew the Frost Giants were special when I found out the swirling portal in their fortress was barely understood and actually scared the Giant Kings.
    Thank you for the informative and spectacularly crafted video! I can always count on your content to be rewarding and worth the wait.

  • @kelvinsantiago7061
    @kelvinsantiago7061 Рік тому +11

    Greetings from Puerto Rico to everyone!.

  • @Ariapeithes_
    @Ariapeithes_ Рік тому +10

    Oh new Conan Lore!! Awesome!! Haven't seen a notification for Conan Lore in awhile!

  • @nickster_xd8937
    @nickster_xd8937 Рік тому +10

    I wrote an essay comparing this story to Apollo and Daphne’s story from Ovid and Bulfinch, as REH took direct inspiration from the legend.

  • @jasonsantos3037
    @jasonsantos3037 Рік тому +9

    Worth the wait to learn about the frost giants in Conan Wait for the video you do the black ones.

  • @Grooveworthy
    @Grooveworthy Рік тому +6

    The choice of valheim music here was well-placed.

  • @Vandelberger
    @Vandelberger Рік тому +4

    Such a good bit of lore and perfect story telling that they are not met in the true waking world. More Faye like.

  • @HeilSol
    @HeilSol Рік тому +7

    This seems a really great release, given the holiday. Remember your ancestors! And thanks for the great content.

  • @DCJMS
    @DCJMS Рік тому +5

    All glory to Ymir

  • @Khanclansith
    @Khanclansith Рік тому +5

    Conan to Ymir... "Your daughter calls me daddy too!"

  • @hansthebeast9740
    @hansthebeast9740 Рік тому +9

    The Frost Giants daughter is one of my favorite Conan stories.

    • @vonfaustien3957
      @vonfaustien3957 Рік тому +1

      Which is funny because it was never suposed to be a conan story.
      It's like Phoenix on the sword in that Howard rewrote an existing story d4aft that never sold as a conan story latter on.

  • @KeacePeeper
    @KeacePeeper Рік тому +5

    I'm so Happy you Git Back to some Conan Lore!
    I'd Love you to give your takes on Elrics Lore and World.

  • @koboldlord
    @koboldlord Рік тому +4

    I love all types of Frost Giants in myth and fiction. The Conan take is really interesting.

    • @joezar33
      @joezar33 Рік тому

      Yeah definitely is interesting , if Conan as Frost Giants in the lore doesn't that mean Odin , Thor Norse Mythology exists too ?

  • @akibmahbubkhan7225
    @akibmahbubkhan7225 Рік тому +5

    bro, u gotta make a video on the Elric verse and the other works of Michael Moorcock, I love the subversion of the champions of the balance of being a chosen one that is way more a curse than any type of privilege, truly a Grimdark franchise.

  • @prophetofbeans6781
    @prophetofbeans6781 Рік тому +1

    The Sovngarde music in the beginning was perfect *Chef's kiss*

  • @garthvader2177
    @garthvader2177 Рік тому +2

    Your Conan content is radical!

  • @TheBrothersHyborian
    @TheBrothersHyborian Рік тому +4

    Loved this video, but really curious about the theory regarding Atali being an alternate-universe bride of Conan. Never heard that one before, it sounds weird and interesting!
    Definitely gonna have to read the Frost Giant's Daughter soon, this is definitely one of the most fascinating videos you've done in awhile Grimdark! So glad to see you come back to Conan content!

  • @grinningdm594
    @grinningdm594 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for your work. The last year I have watched, with rapt interest, your content as it both dissects and inspires. Your introspection has been a guide in my life path and my written work. I recently got engaged to an amazing and astounding partner that encourages me to even greater acts and I credit your channel and guidance to no small part in that. Sincerely THANK YOU SO MUCH! It is an honor and a blessing.

  • @theblueidiot5536
    @theblueidiot5536 Рік тому +2

    Let’s gooooooooooooooo new Conan lore vid thank you half off

  • @thomasmuennich2680
    @thomasmuennich2680 Рік тому +2

    Thank you so much, love your work.

  • @ragnarrandom7367
    @ragnarrandom7367 Рік тому +2

    nice to see more conan lore vids from you

  • @SwaagMan
    @SwaagMan Рік тому +1

    That opening reading was awesome!! Great video mate.

  • @thegustavobox
    @thegustavobox Рік тому +2

    Great video

  • @bluezero8557
    @bluezero8557 Рік тому +3

    I really enjoyed this, well worth the wait.

  • @ragmer6415
    @ragmer6415 Рік тому +2

    The Outcast is a pretty rad guy. Ought to bring him a mead or two next I see him.

  • @ONIWOLF18
    @ONIWOLF18 Рік тому +2

    I listen to grimdark half off while lifting at the gym. I focus way better than with music. Cheers bud!

  • @worth5867
    @worth5867 Рік тому +2

    More Conan stuff, Nice!

  • @kingoftheteutons2157
    @kingoftheteutons2157 Рік тому +3

    I don't know if there are Trolls in the Hyborian age but I know that when the Norse became christianized the Jötunn became Trolls

  • @aelfredrex8354
    @aelfredrex8354 Рік тому +5

    Did you know that Ymir, the greatest of the frost giants, still exists? He's the Arctic Ice Cap, which once covered all of Scandinavia several times within human experience.

  • @KGdorah1964
    @KGdorah1964 Рік тому

    I loved reading the Frost Giants daughter!
    I also always wanted to make my own version of the Giants, many of my ideas being they were elementals given flesh.

  • @Rolandais
    @Rolandais Рік тому +2

    Quick Point, it's not "Anti-God" it's "Not-God", slight difference, but important

  • @SucculentToast
    @SucculentToast Рік тому +1

    Loved the video! I always wanted to know more about the frost giants! Also idk if this would make a good video or if you have covered it in the past but I’ve always wondered about the Hyrkanians. Their culture and religion. I know a decent amount because I usually roleplay Hyrkanians but a video covering them in some depth would be really cool!

  • @matthewflynnthegladiatorof6787

    i love your Conan lore and Warhammer 40K lore and i wonder if the traitor legions you've mentioned before like the night lords in relation to the raven guard and Horus himself are getting there own lore video. ?

    • @GrimDarkHalfOff
      @GrimDarkHalfOff  Рік тому +2

      I want to do Horus once I get back into some 40K stuff - I like him the most out of the traitor Primarch

    • @matthewflynnthegladiatorof6787
      @matthewflynnthegladiatorof6787 Рік тому +1

      @@GrimDarkHalfOff do you know about the chaos War band the true sons? they worship Horus as a god and maintain there sea green legion Colors.

    • @joezar33
      @joezar33 Рік тому

      ​@@GrimDarkHalfOffdo u got a video, on what happen too *Subotai* ? Was he just a one shot character made for the movie and isn't canon ?

  • @jeangermain837
    @jeangermain837 Рік тому +1

    awsome video bro

  • @manuelgarcia-ve5vm
    @manuelgarcia-ve5vm Рік тому +1

    for those about to write ... we salute you! 🤟🤟🤟

  • @haerverk
    @haerverk Рік тому +2

    Somehow I feel like I'm sailing around in Valheim 🤔🎼

  • @Demolitiondude
    @Demolitiondude Рік тому +1

    Frosty morning for frost giants.

  • @davidthebarbarian6851
    @davidthebarbarian6851 Рік тому +2

    Were you talking about Marvel's Conan serpent war when you were talking about the old man in texas

    • @GrimDarkHalfOff
      @GrimDarkHalfOff  Рік тому +1

      No

    • @davidthebarbarian6851
      @davidthebarbarian6851 Рік тому +1

      @@GrimDarkHalfOff fair enough

    • @joezar33
      @joezar33 Рік тому

      Didn't Conan kill "Captain America" and Red Sonja teamup with Wolverine before ? Not being funny either , it was in a Marvel *What If* comic book

  • @SouthernShodan
    @SouthernShodan Рік тому

    Would these be the giants mentioned in the 1982 movie by Conan's father when he said giants tricked Crom into giving up the secret of steel?

  • @DaleSmith-x1n
    @DaleSmith-x1n 9 місяців тому

    “In Valhalla you will tell your brothers that you met Conan of Cimmeria”

  • @thediabolicalfox9354
    @thediabolicalfox9354 Рік тому +2

    Ayy conan lore

  • @midnightgreen8319
    @midnightgreen8319 Рік тому

    They would hate this channel 😂

  • @ironheadgaming6270
    @ironheadgaming6270 6 місяців тому

    The Legend of Kern and the Conan RPG claim Frost Giants are simply a pre-human race that humans have driven into the wild places and are slowly dying off, the character Kern is a Cimmerian half-giant he is immune to cold the Nord races learned how to worship Ymir from the Frost Giants

  • @TheLordUrban
    @TheLordUrban 4 місяці тому

    My head canon is that Yimir and Ithiqua are the same beings.

    • @GrimDarkHalfOff
      @GrimDarkHalfOff  4 місяці тому

      That’s a good idea - I can see the potential

  • @robomonkey1018
    @robomonkey1018 Рік тому +1

    Huzzah

  • @RickRando001
    @RickRando001 11 місяців тому

    Prototype, stereotype, ARCHETYPE.

  • @juanisol8275
    @juanisol8275 Рік тому +3

    Intriguing representative depth that Hogward gave to the Frost Giants! Great review of the origins of the cult, its ethnic cultural anatomy and ambiguity between worlds! Basically the Ginnungagap like Valhalla and the Jotnars the equivalent of the Einherjar! And surely Atali's Mother could have been Auðumbla! 🌬️⛰️🏔️❄️☃️⛄🌫️🌨️🐂🦣🐻‍❄️🦍🦧🥶🗻🧊