I lived in Reservoir from 2005 to 2010 when I first retired, and used this route 86 into the city frequently. Trams in Melbourne are a great way to explore the metropolitan area when you're retired and have plenty of free time to become an amateur city photographer. I miss Melbourne a LOT.
Thank you, Schony for these delighful experiences. I always wantd to go to Melbourne, but at my age it seems unlikely. Your images are so clear;I especially love the street scenes and the lovely architecture of the outlying districts. Melbourne is a trolley fan’s dream, and you make it come true for this old fellow, who remembered when trolley cars were all over the US>
In the morning, from the terminus, I used to walk to Mill Park Secondary College, from where, I have nice memories. The Melbourne's tram, train, and bus Services was a big help for my going around this great city. Thank you very much.
what a memory. live in bundoora 2010-2015. always use this tram to the city and to La Trobe Uni. good memory. good city. thanks for the video and memory
I've watched this video a few times, and only recently realised that I make a cameo appearance! I turn into Gertrude St Fitzroy from the right just in front of you.
Yes, I even enjoy the traffic jams, but I bet you don't!! HAHA You might disagree with this Brendan, but Melb drivers, on the whole, do seem to be pretty good. They actually have alot more to contend with, ie the trams, than drivers in other states do! I can't help but think how much my Dad would have LOVED your films. He was orginally from Melb (his Dad used to be the station master back in the 1930's at Eltham), & he absolutely adored trains, trams etc. When we lived in Melb, we did many a trip up to Wallan, from Eltham to watch the Southern Auora (??) on it's journey north to Sydney. I recall it used to pass through sometime around 9.30pm. We would grab takeaway coffee & make a fun trip of it. I think I got my love of all things transport from him! Anyway, keep up the good work. I am going to nominate your for an Oscar, dead set!
Now that is one long line, I used to catch it in the city out to the start of the Smith St run, on coming back into the city sometimes the tram took for ever to arrive to pick me up, after seeing all it goes through after Collingwood, no wonder. Actually I met my wife on this route, in the city, at the now removed stop just before the Bourke St Mall. (Elizabeth St) On the odd occasion, heading out of the city down Gertrude St, the driver would miss judge how far it was until the Smith St turn and would come in a bit 'hot' over the rise to that corner and have to apply quite a bit of near excessive breaking to make the turn.... One day I had my back to the front, so no probs, however a petite Asian lady opposite me started uncontrolled rising out of her seat and coming towards me during one of those breaking sessions, I had to grab her by her shoulders and gently offer her back into her seat, lest she end up in my lap, or worse! I think she was a tad embarrassed, with no idea what to do, not that there was much she could have done!
There are plenty of buses just not in the tram corridors. Doncaster has no tram or train services but plenty of buses. I don't know how Melbourne would survive without it's trams.
Schony747 it’s because it has trams that Melbourne is such a great city to live in. It’s often ranked at the top of many lists of most livable cities in the world. Congrats Melbourne! And we’re lucky that there are dedicated tram drivers who post these great videos for us to enjoy. From California, many thanks!
Ok then, so they finally did get modern trams on this route. I wish they had them when I was living their, was always wondering when. This used to be my main route into the city from Preston.
As I was running so late there would have been a tram behind to pick up the passengers for me so I could make up some time. They were both on their phone so wouldn't have missed me anyway.
Just curious how do they allocate route to you guys is there a name out of a hat system just wondering do tram drivers have a fight over the best routes
Most depots have had the same routes for years. As a Southbank driver I'm usually driving routes 12, 30, 35 and 96. Any new routes such as the 58 require planning between PTV and Yarra. The 58 for example it made perfect sense to share between Malvern and Essendon as those two depots are closest to the end of each line.
Yes disappointing but that will happen with only 4 trams running on any given day. Short term pain for long term gain with a fleet of 12 fully refurbished trams that meet current safety standards and crash standards and be around for many years to come once all are rebuilt.
Well if more will be back in use, that's great. The W trams are to Melbourne what Routemaster buses are to London. Just out of curiosity, do Melbournites call the new multi-car Bombardiers "trams"?
Yep everything is called a tram over here. The non educated tourists call them a bus. Regarding the W class, there will be a fleet of 12 Circles and three restaurants. So while the numbers won't be great, the heritage will still be running. No different to the Routemaster story in London.
The reason I ask is that here on the Gold Coast friends and I were discussing "tram" vs "light rail" (as it's called on the GC). Story goes a "tram" is a single unit (like Melbourne's W, Z and A class) whereas a "light rail" is a multi unit version. Whether that's true or not, I'm not certain. Maybe it's like Queenslanders calling a suitcase a "port"-local terminology. As you'd be aware both the GC G-Link and Melbourne networks are run by Keolis Downer. Hmmm, wonder if I can use my unused Myki credit on a G-Link ride?
The road train is actually a B double and there are lots of these around here as they carry containers to and from the shipping ports. as BM Autos said it's our parliament house or equivalent of The State Capital in the US.
You will never see Road Trains in the suburbs they are mostly found in the outback. Road trains are too big to have in the city as they are usually 3 or more trailers long thus being to big to navigate metropolitan areas
It might end up being surprisingly obvious, but what do the signs 'Drivers Prepare Doors for Next Tram Stop' mean? I see that it's gone from right-side opening to left-side opening, but what has to be 'prepared'? Thanks.
Platform stops either are on the left or the right. With route 96, Casino doors open on the left, Batman Park on the right and Southern Cross Station the left again. The signs remind drivers to check the doors are selected for the correct side before opening.
It's all controlled by the driver who has a point selection switch on the drivers panel. transponder underneath the tram passes the command to a green box through a radio loop and the green box controls the rest.
Ah, the pure typical Melbourne trams. Very entertaining ride although I fail to understand why trams are made to wait at traffic signals like cars do. What about a cab ride in some other city like Perth or Brisbane?
Wow a very long and nice trip. How do you tolerate them cars cutting you off and getting so close? Omg you guys sure can drive safely. I would be a nervous wreck and be shouting who knows at them dumb drivers. Did you miss a stop at 1:31:26? Just wandering. I love watching your videos of your city. Thanks for sharing. will be looking for more to come. Safe travels ahead for you. God bless.
This was a particularly long trip due to road works. The rostered trip is normally one hour and 20. As for the cars, people and bikes, it's a normal part of the job these days and I'm ok wth that.
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Because of that gruesome traffic, no wonder you were running late! In the latter part of the trip, did I see a reduced speed limit only for E-Class, as well as 1 E-Class on bridge? What's that about?
Bob Rogers the reason for the ridiculous traffic is bcse of the trams blocking traffic flow. Light rail should never be on a existing road network. Ridiculous! This world is crazy!
Very very slow tram 1 hour 50 mins to travel 23 kilometers, 14kph is not a good speed for a modern transport system. A Sydney bus can travel from Avalon to the city in peak hour quicker than this.
There were a number of factors when I filmed this. Roadworks on Smith St Collingwood, extra cars due to the Hurstbridge Train Line shutdown which made traffic horrendous for us. But unless we get more tram priority things are only going to get worse.
It's pretty clear that trams need to be separated from traffic and have underpasses built at intersections. The single tram in Sydney is underperforming because of the limited number of services that can cross George St near Central Railway. The trams are larger than Melbourne Trams, the service is always packed. Measures need to be taken to go over George St. If an overhead viaduct about 400m long were built, it would also remove the danger of large numbers of pedestrians straying onto the tracks at Haymarket. Trams and Metro rail are the future of transport in cities, cars occupy to much valuable space to even be considered as a functional transport system. The Melbourne rail system is in crisis, it's at least 30 years behind Sydney with large numbers of level crossings, unfenced track that is easily used as pedestrian crossings, large sections of track with obsolete wooden sleepers and a 19th-century signalling system. Sydney's rail system is "futuristic" compared to Melbourne. Melbourne is clearly being run as a "car town".
Tramlink is more of a light rail system so it can go faster and has less stops. Melbourne trams are essentially just buses on rails with very few light rail sections
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Having heard 14 mainly unnecessary bell rings by the end of stop 2 I'm turning the sound off. This guy has a real fixation about being noticed. Bet he is about 5 foot 6 in the old terminology at best!
I lived in Reservoir from 2005 to 2010 when I first retired, and used this route 86 into the city frequently. Trams in Melbourne are a great way to explore the metropolitan area when you're retired and have plenty of free time to become an amateur city photographer. I miss Melbourne a LOT.
Is it that good? It loos really nce. I am from jamaica never been there
Thank you, Schony for these delighful experiences. I always wantd to go to Melbourne, but at my age it seems unlikely. Your images are so clear;I especially love the street scenes and the lovely architecture of the outlying districts. Melbourne is a trolley fan’s dream, and you make it come true for this old fellow, who remembered when trolley cars were all over the US>
Thanks. I know you enjoy the rides.
In the morning, from the terminus, I used to walk to Mill Park Secondary College, from where, I have nice memories. The Melbourne's tram, train, and bus Services was a big help for my going around this great city. Thank you very much.
The North does have some pretty good transport connections
what a memory. live in bundoora 2010-2015. always use this tram to the city and to La Trobe Uni. good memory. good city. thanks for the video and memory
Thanks for coming for a ride!
i used to ride this route on sundays to the footy back in the mid 90's. this takes me back
Thank you schony for the new perspective on a tram line I used to travel, your videos are very relaxing.
Thanks for coming for a ride.
I miss Melbourne sooo much!!! I used to live in Docklands, and take route 86 to city every time
Lots has changed even in a few years!
Just realized I watched this one a while ago before I was signed up properly to comment. Good work.
Thanks for having another look.
I miss melborne😭
Is it tat good?
I miss it to! Thanks Shony747 for sharing, get to take a trip down memory lane!
which do you miss, the shark or crocodile?
I really enjoy your tram ride thank u
Great. Thanks for riding with me 😀😀
красивый город. beautiful city
Brought back memories of staying in preston tq .
Wow! what amazing video! love this streetcars and city :-)
Thanks. I love driving in this city.
I've watched this video a few times, and only recently realised that I make a cameo appearance! I turn into Gertrude St Fitzroy from the right just in front of you.
Nominate yourself for an academy award then 😀😀
Missing melbourne so mch this use 2 be our route home n 2 uni with d wifey... this deserves a comment n a like.
The route hasn't changed that much either. Thanks for coming for a ride.
Fantastic video Brenden! I ave been watching & enjoying Your Channel close to two years.
Thanks. I know you're a regular contributor.
Wow thank u for the ride.i really enjoyed it .from india .
Thanks for riding with me
Thank you UA-cam for free travel.
Amazing isn't it. You can basically sit in your lounge room and travel anywhere. Thanks for riding.
Done subscribing. I love contents like this.
Thanks for taking a ride!
@@Schony747 you're welcome. Thanks for the virtual ride too.👌
Nearly 2 hours of pure bliss!
And just as much time sitting in traffic. Did you enjoy the traffic jams?
Yes, I even enjoy the traffic jams, but I bet you don't!! HAHA You might disagree with this Brendan, but Melb drivers, on the whole, do seem to be pretty good. They actually have alot more to contend with, ie the trams, than drivers in other states do! I can't help but think how much my Dad would have LOVED your films. He was orginally from Melb (his Dad used to be the station master back in the 1930's at Eltham), & he absolutely adored trains, trams etc. When we lived in Melb, we did many a trip up to Wallan, from Eltham to watch the Southern Auora (??) on it's journey north to Sydney. I recall it used to pass through sometime around 9.30pm. We would grab takeaway coffee & make a fun trip of it. I think I got my love of all things transport from him! Anyway, keep up the good work. I am going to nominate your for an Oscar, dead set!
Welcome back, Brenden!
Thanks Michael. I'm always around. Things just get a bit busy
Gotta love Melbourne trams. Apart from rush hour down Bourke street haha its packed to the Brim in there.
East Brunswick to St Kilda from 745am I'm picking up 250 people in 12 minutes and that's busy!
That's where the old "busy as Bourke st" saying came from.
Now that is one long line, I used to catch it in the city out to the start of the Smith St run, on coming back into the city sometimes the tram took for ever to arrive to pick me up, after seeing all it goes through after Collingwood, no wonder.
Actually I met my wife on this route, in the city, at the now removed stop just before the Bourke St Mall. (Elizabeth St)
On the odd occasion, heading out of the city down Gertrude St, the driver would miss judge how far it was until the Smith St turn and would come in a bit 'hot' over the rise to that corner and have to apply quite a bit of near excessive breaking to make the turn.... One day I had my back to the front, so no probs, however a petite Asian lady opposite me started uncontrolled rising out of her seat and coming towards me during one of those breaking sessions, I had to grab her by her shoulders and gently offer her back into her seat, lest she end up in my lap, or worse! I think she was a tad embarrassed, with no idea what to do, not that there was much she could have done!
Wonderfull transport system hardly a bus in sight, other cities around the world should take note.
There are plenty of buses just not in the tram corridors. Doncaster has no tram or train services but plenty of buses. I don't know how Melbourne would survive without it's trams.
Schony747 it’s because it has trams that Melbourne is such a great city to live in. It’s often ranked at the top of many lists of most livable cities in the world. Congrats Melbourne!
And we’re lucky that there are dedicated tram drivers who post these great videos for us to enjoy.
From California, many thanks!
It goes towards Bundoora RMIT at above ground.
Yep. Thanks for taking a ride.
Ok then, so they finally did get modern trams on this route. I wish they had them when I was living their, was always wondering when. This used to be my main route into the city from Preston.
2016 in fact and it will be a I'm modern E class soon with no high floor B class
Schony747 oh wow how things change. When I'm down next maybe take a ride on the new tram
Avalon is 34 kilometers from the city.
As a guy from north America I didnt realize there was so many teams in this city.
Around 500 in the fleet and 27 lines. The 86 is one of the busier ones as well.
13:01 what is that signal for?
When lit up it tells the driver the tram will make the green light and make it through the next intersection
You didn't miss a stop @ 1:31:23 by mistake did you?
As I was running so late there would have been a tram behind to pick up the passengers for me so I could make up some time. They were both on their phone so wouldn't have missed me anyway.
Just curious how do they allocate route to you guys is there a name out of a hat system just wondering do tram drivers have a fight over the best routes
Most depots have had the same routes for years. As a Southbank driver I'm usually driving routes 12, 30, 35 and 96. Any new routes such as the 58 require planning between PTV and Yarra. The 58 for example it made perfect sense to share between Malvern and Essendon as those two depots are closest to the end of each line.
I was in Melbourne CBD for three days last week. Didn't see a single W tram-so disappointed.
Yes disappointing but that will happen with only 4 trams running on any given day. Short term pain for long term gain with a fleet of 12 fully refurbished trams that meet current safety standards and crash standards and be around for many years to come once all are rebuilt.
Well if more will be back in use, that's great. The W trams are to Melbourne what Routemaster buses are to London.
Just out of curiosity, do Melbournites call the new multi-car Bombardiers "trams"?
Yep everything is called a tram over here. The non educated tourists call them a bus. Regarding the W class, there will be a fleet of 12 Circles and three restaurants. So while the numbers won't be great, the heritage will still be running. No different to the Routemaster story in London.
The reason I ask is that here on the Gold Coast friends and I were discussing "tram" vs "light rail" (as it's called on the GC). Story goes a "tram" is a single unit (like Melbourne's W, Z and A class) whereas a "light rail" is a multi unit version. Whether that's true or not, I'm not certain. Maybe it's like Queenslanders calling a suitcase a "port"-local terminology. As you'd be aware both the GC G-Link and Melbourne networks are run by Keolis Downer. Hmmm, wonder if I can use my unused Myki credit on a G-Link ride?
Technically the B2 is a light rail vehicle built for the St kilda and Port Melbourne light rails
Nice road train 3:35. And that twin steer double deck bus is interesting too. Is that the State Capitol at 24:35?
Actually it is Victoria state parliament house, as far i know we don't use the term Capitol in Australia.
The road train is actually a B double and there are lots of these around here as they carry containers to and from the shipping ports. as BM Autos said it's our parliament house or equivalent of The State Capital in the US.
You will never see Road Trains in the suburbs they are mostly found in the outback. Road trains are too big to have in the city as they are usually 3 or more trailers long thus being to big to navigate metropolitan areas
It might end up being surprisingly obvious, but what do the signs 'Drivers Prepare Doors for Next Tram Stop' mean? I see that it's gone from right-side opening to left-side opening, but what has to be 'prepared'? Thanks.
Platform stops either are on the left or the right. With route 96, Casino doors open on the left, Batman Park on the right and Southern Cross Station the left again. The signs remind drivers to check the doors are selected for the correct side before opening.
@@Schony747 Thanks. 👌
Curious as to how or where the switches are controlled from. When one tram goes straight and the other goes right or left, who has thrown the switch?
It's all controlled by the driver who has a point selection switch on the drivers panel. transponder underneath the tram passes the command to a green box through a radio loop and the green box controls the rest.
Thanks for the info. You better know your route then. Great channel!
Thanks. Drivers do go off route from time to time. It's only human but it helps to know where you are going.
What was the tram number?
No idea Thomas. I'd have to look it up. It was a B class when Preston still had a few.
at the three minute mark, when u turn right, where do the tracks go on your left or straight ahead?
The tracks on the left are for the Footscray Road siding. It's the terminus for route 30 and 75.
@@Schony747 oh i c thx schony
What is the longest trams route
Route 75 at 22.8km. Docklands in the city to Vermont South in Melbourne's outer East. Morning peak it's rostered 93 minutes end to end.
Thanks. I thought it's going to be route 86, 96 or 109
Ah, the pure typical Melbourne trams. Very entertaining ride although I fail to understand why trams are made to wait at traffic signals like cars do. What about a cab ride in some other city like Perth or Brisbane?
Most people ask the same question. Why don't trams get more priority?
We started at underground subway.
have u done a video of 96a tram it
96a via Latrobe St?
Yes
actully the road rules are different when it comes to trams the right of way and so on
Not that car drivers take any notice 😃😃
Have you ever got passengers that knew you from this channel?
Not so much passengers. New drivers get excited when they know who I am as they watch my videos before starting the job.
Great ride! You could call this the "Maxwell Smart" Route!(Maxwell Smart, Agent 86 LOL)
Never thought of that. I might add a tag.
Cheers, Schony!
Wow a very long and nice trip. How do you tolerate them cars cutting you off and getting so close? Omg you guys sure can drive safely. I would be a nervous wreck and be shouting who knows at them dumb drivers. Did you miss a stop at 1:31:26? Just wandering. I love watching your videos of your city. Thanks for sharing. will be looking for more to come. Safe travels ahead for you. God bless.
This was a particularly long trip due to road works. The rostered trip is normally one hour and 20. As for the cars, people and bikes, it's a normal part of the job these days and I'm ok wth that.
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awesome video would better if the whole tram line was was a right of way apart from car traffic !
It would be fantastic if all of our tram lines had priority. Unfortunately we share the road with cars and we can't always get priority.
I’m not familiar with this District, Brenden.
Because of that gruesome traffic, no wonder you were running late! In the latter part of the trip, did I see a reduced speed limit only for E-Class, as well as 1 E-Class on bridge? What's that about?
Two E Class on the bridge at the same time are supposedly too heavy for the bridge structure so that's why there is also a 10km per hour limit.
Bob Rogers the reason for the ridiculous traffic is bcse of the trams blocking traffic flow. Light rail should never be on a existing road network. Ridiculous! This world is crazy!
@@biggils8894 And how can they do it? The Melbourne tramways begann 1886. In 1920 the most lines where there and how many cars?
The guy orange top 6:05 he a driver
Customer service actually.
this trams should get train horn it is the best way to scare all the cars out the way
The C2 and E have horns and they are very effective!
Very very slow tram 1 hour 50 mins to travel 23 kilometers, 14kph is not a good speed for a modern transport system. A Sydney bus can travel from Avalon to the city in peak hour quicker than this.
There were a number of factors when I filmed this. Roadworks on Smith St Collingwood, extra cars due to the Hurstbridge Train Line shutdown which made traffic horrendous for us. But unless we get more tram priority things are only going to get worse.
It's pretty clear that trams need to be separated from traffic and have underpasses built at intersections. The single tram in Sydney is underperforming because of the limited number of services that can cross George St near Central Railway. The trams are larger than Melbourne Trams, the service is always packed. Measures need to be taken to go over George St. If an overhead viaduct about 400m long were built, it would also remove the danger of large numbers of pedestrians straying onto the tracks at Haymarket. Trams and Metro rail are the future of transport in cities, cars occupy to much valuable space to even be considered as a functional transport system. The Melbourne rail system is in crisis, it's at least 30 years behind Sydney with large numbers of level crossings, unfenced track that is easily used as pedestrian crossings, large sections of track with obsolete wooden sleepers and a 19th-century signalling system. Sydney's rail system is "futuristic" compared to Melbourne. Melbourne is clearly being run as a "car town".
Yes! We need more tram and car separation and more tram priority at traffic lights. Well summed up.
Croydon Tramlink in UK goes faster
Melbourne is very slow compared to other networks. Melbourne also has shared cars to deal with.
Tramlink is more of a light rail system so it can go faster and has less stops. Melbourne trams are essentially just buses on rails with very few light rail sections
hmmm.😠
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Having heard 14 mainly unnecessary bell rings by the end of stop 2 I'm turning the sound off. This guy has a real fixation about being noticed. Bet he is about 5 foot 6 in the old terminology at best!