PRO AUDIO EP. 4 | MICROPHONE BUYING GUIDE | PRO LEVEL MICS & STANDS
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Hey guys! We are up to episode 4 of our pro audio series. Today we are covering microphones. I just want to reiterate that this is only a starting point. There are many microphones that are significantly
better that my current inventory. Keep that in mind while viewing!
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You sir, are the single most informative guy on UA-cam. Thank you so much.
DJ Woo Pig, I appreciate you brother. You’re dropping real knowledge. There are so many UA-cam channels that just recommend generic prosumer gear. You are referencing some real affordable professional grade equipment that can grow with you. I recently purchased two ulx S4 for my wedding ceremony set up. My Shure glx and blx series were not cutting it for outdoor ceremonies. I also own an antenna combiner. I got the advise from a good friend that runs audio. You’re giving the type of advice you get from friends. Most UA-camrs are here to gain views and review crappy gear. Thanks for keeping it 💯.
...and that brings us to Direct boxes. It never ends!
SM57 and SM58 had already been the club standard for years when I started getting into live sound and rock back in the late 70s....they're still rocking!
Thank you so much for talking about quality microphone stands. Every time I go looking for quality microphone stands, my searches don't turn up any clear results. I'm through with buying mic stands that fall apart after a couple of months! Totally going to try out a K&M now!
Love those 835. Have a couple of those and the 845 sounds even better
What I really like about your Pro Audio Series is you have really found the line of affordable Pro with out being complete garbage. There is a bunch of gear out there that will not perform in a pro environment, and I like how you acknowledge this. There will always be a better, more expensive kit, but your kit is very respectable, and will get the job done comfortably. Great Videos!
Man a huge thanks for these videos, pure knowledge, respect!
your sessions are feeling more and more like school m8. These are excellent for any djs and entertainers starting out or breaking in to The business.
It's funny, I grew up in a suburb of Chicago, and used to drive past the Shure plant or ride above it on the CTA train. Back then we didn't think much of the microphones made in out back yard, and lusted for the exotic condenser models from (then) West Germany and Austria. 40 years later who'd 'a thunk that the same SM57/SM58 models that were the unsung workhorses would still be the go-to mikes?
I've gotten over my bigotry about stupid expensive condenser mikes from _der Vaterland_ with one exception. I like Sennheiser wireless systems, and some vocalists like the Neumann KMS 105 vocal performer microphone. It's great for wired applications, and Neumann make a KK 105-S capsule for the Sennheiser so it doesn't have to be an either/or situation. Even though Lectrosonics is now the company in my back yard, I have liked Sennheiser for wireless audio to the mixer and IEM/IFB for a while now. I've used Shure packs and like them well enough, but keep liking Sennheiser better.
You,my man,are a very valuable resource for information and one cool cat.
Another excellent video. I have been investing in mics for a little while now. All of my wired mics are Shure SM48. They don't sound too much different than the 58's, although they do need a little eq and a little more gain. I have 6 of those, and two (so far) of the Sennheiser XS Wireless 2 mics, (one is a 825, and the other is the 835). Mostly entry level stuff, but still professional. Those two are good brands that I trust, even with their entry level products. As I build my sound company, I will certainly upgrade, and even do like in the video, and have the "B" case, for my current mics. I think my next move will be to get a drum mic kit, and maybe even some SM57's.
I love sennheiser. Especially their wireless mics
Great info bud! I’m the sound tech for my small church and I have been running into some difficulties with the low end mics they are running.
You've really been killing it with these videos man! I'm very interested in getting into the Pro Audio game.. & these are helping out a ton! thank you
Brother great video... thanks for the explanation... on the mics...
Loving the Pro Audio tips. keep up the awesome work and content!! Hope you have a blessed Christmas and a Happy New Year
If you're looking for very decent budget pencil condensors, try the Rode M5s. They're cheap and have a 10 year warranty.
Couldn’t agree more - killer mics 👌👌
I really enjoy your channel! Some "gear heads" tend to act a bit TOO techy or insist on brands that are completely out of the average person's budget. Always sound advice! Keep up the good work!
I am learning a lot about this video. Been learning about doing live sound myself. Only because In Chicago there are a lot of artists doing shows
So much good information. Thanks for your videos.
How much do you have invested in gear now? ~$300K USD?
We sometimes use Beta 52 for not only kick ports, but also for lowest floor tom. this really gets the low end as well as a bit more punch from the stick strike.
Love the 604s! So small and neat, not as likely to get in the way of the drummer as some of the larger stuff out there
Its really eye open to see the cost above 100K at entry level and not even be done.
There's more than 2 types of microphone my friend. Wireless and wired aren't different types either.
There are Dynamic microphones and there are condenser microphones. And there's also Ribbon microphones.
There's also cardioid versions, directional, omnidirectional and bi directional. And I'm sure there are many others I've forgotten about
I don't think he was making a broad statement about all microphones that exist. Rather, he was referring to the types (or groups) of microphones that he owns.
Actually he was advising people on what microphones are available. He went on to show what microphones he owns
Choooo. Ill stick to my two mic DJ rig. lol. I do need to upgrade to a good wireless mic setup though...
Your my hero!
I'm a Sennheiser guy, got a bit of Shure, but I love Sennheiser
I use 4 shure qlx on the v50 band that works on 174-216 mhz I'm a ham radio operator also so I know how to design rf systems vhf is much better than the other uhf bands and it's also less congested and vhf has better range so you dont have to have directional antennas
Hey John! Loving your pro audio videos. I’m from Denmark, and I would really love to watch your take on how you trim you main PA. Hope to see more great stuff from you! :-)
//Christian
Fourth. Great job!
No beta 87a? Mics get really expensive really quick once you are trying to find the right overhead or wireless pack. Great video!
Hello DJ Woopig big fan bro.
Can you make a video on wireless microphone frequencies, grouping, antena distribution network and work bench software?
I want to go the wireless route for all our front line on stage. It would be a total of 12 wireless units. What do you recommend.
hey john I've been trying to get into the industry for the past few months but I cant seem to get any business what would you recommend to get more customers etc btw love the series
The amount of mics woah! Good information though appreciate it.
Little suggestion on mic security... Make sure your Mic cases have serious locks and buy a couple pairs of handcuffs from Peerless or Smith and Wesson and lock on cuff on the handle and another to something that can't move because you WILL get ripped off and lose everything in the case. I even lock them around my guitar necks and I have flush mounted D rings installed on my speaker cabinets just so I can lock that shit up when I leave the stage. While I live in rural Nebraska, you can be sure someone has an eye on your shit and they WILL jack yo shit.
Idk why you would ever use an SM57 or any dynamic mic on a stringed or orchestral instrument. It’s simply not sensitive enough.
Dope video
You didn't mention mic's for acoustic piano what you use, large diaphragm condensers like AKG or do just go with dynamic mic's? You mentioned the Shure Beta 58's do you have issues with them with vocalists. I find vocalists are horrible about how they hold mic's, they really bad as holding mic's like they holding an ice cream cone or they are moving the mic so much. That super cardiod pattern of the Beta 58 they really need to know how to work that mic or they off it's tight pattern compared to a regular 58. I won't go into singer with wireless mic's and they keep grabbing them by the antenna area and wonder why it cuts out. Dealing with singers such fun.
Toortog Pown correct, I would use a combination of a LDC and maybe a boundry mic. I don’t hand off a beta unless the talent is qualified.
Toortog Pown everything that you described is a sign of an inexperienced microphone technique. A seasoned pro can use the position of the microphone to modulate their voice. A rank amateur will try to emulate what they see, but when they don't know the why or how, it will fail horribly.
The thing is, even the pros started knowing nothing, so they had to learn somehow. That's not to say that you owe every untalented singer a course in vocal pedagogy for microphones, but if they will take stage direction it can make everyone's life a little easier. Otherwise do what you need to do, including taping it to the stand.
@StringerNews1 The are pro's that still don't understand they focus more on where mic as if live was video shoot and mic hides their face. Or their stage moves are more important than proper mic tech. The artists these day know there are video camera everywhere and start think more about the visual than the audio. This is where headsets are good if they have their own that has been fitted to their head and face (some even skin tone) and the mic in it can handle their voice. I worked media for a large church with a very dynamic reverend who really used his dynamic range to draw people in from speaking in whispers to the full power of his speaking voice. Trouble was when he went loud he overloaded the headset mic. We finally had to spend the money and get him a DPA headset mic because it handles the highest SPL for headset mics. Funny the only issue with this rev what he was married to a great singer, the church music was a big part of services, and the rev would start singing alone and he was terrible. So we had to nicely duck down his mic in fact we had to ride his channel on the board when he delivered his message because of his big dynamic range he drop too low and we have to bring it up. It sounded better to ride his channel than to compress it and kill his dynamics.
@Toortog Pown television isn't exactly new, and performers who appear on TV regularly know to work with the TV director to get the best shot angles. Perhaps in some genres of music, all that's required is visual looks, but that's not the sound contractor's problem. When anyone tries to make a living trying to sell what they think is talent, it's 100% on them to make it work.
If a singer/dancer or any other performer wants to use a headset, that's fine. But because of the custom and personal nature of such devices (this goes for IEM as well), it's not reasonable to expect hire companies to rent such equipment to them in each city. So if they want to use them, they need to get their own, and make sure that what they have hooks up to 3rd party wireless packs without any problems. They also need to be smart enough (or have someone who is) to make a backup plan or two in case the headset fails. If you bring your own PA, you should have a lot of redundancy already; if you you hire the PA, don't expect that sort of redundancy to come for free or without asking.
Just go with regular 58s when dealing with unseasoned artists. Sure you can get a better sound out of the betas, but it's never worth it when you're sitting there breaking a cold sweat cause the GBF is taken on a rollercoaster ride
What type of mic would you suggest to mic a grand piano? Great Video Though!
Shure PZM mic inside of the piano
Why you not have at least 2 of the AKG C1000s?? This is one of the best condenser microphone
lol. You photo bombed yourself. 😁
How do I tell if I can put half wave antennas on my GTD wireless mics?
Thanks Bro u r very helpful. I too run Live Audio system With x32 console. Any durable microphone for Flute.
I have a Shure Blx2 wireless microphone
great channel. great info. great presentation. (horrible DJ name). Thanks for all you do. You definitely make me feel better about spending what I do on gear. I like options, I like backup and I like quality stuff.
You must be from somewhere in the SEC. 😂
@@DjWooPig Oh is it a college football thing or something? haha Respect, man! Keep it up!
Not just football. It’s a mascot. If you where from Arkansas you would get it. Sorry you don’t approve. 🤷🏾♂️
@@DjWooPig I was just having fun - no real offense intended. Keep up the killer content!
Try to mic the floor tom with a B52 and send them in the subs and you'll have yourself some nice punch.
If you put the B52 under the floor tom, don't forget to invert the phase
@@NeneExists Of course.
I LOVE your videos, BUT... I have a question, I hear you mention often, "rider friendly". I'm a green horn and not deep into the business (I am an amateur sound tech at my church)... what is a RIDER? Is that a contract for an event or what? I honestly don't know and am not ashamed to say so. I look forward to your response. Keep the GREAT videos coming.
harrigl Nola a “rider” is a technical sheet, that a band would often have if they are playing at stages where they don’t bring their own gear. So if you are supplying gear and you have 4 bands playing, they will hand in a “rider” to let you know witch mics they need, what kind of power they need, monitors, placement on the stage etc.
it’s really great if you are doing quick shifts between bands. Often there will also be a channel overview and monitor requests :-) hope that was helpful :-)
Thanks so much! I really appreciate your sharing this information with me. Now, I am much less ignorant that specific subject. Thanks again!
I believe it's called that because it "rides" along with the standard performance contract. What Christian Albertsen said is correct, but it can get very lengthy and precise. Like, bands will specify that they must be mixed on a Midas or Soundcraft console, or that Behringer and Peavey speakers and amps are verboten, and even what snacks are to be provided backstage.
Van Halen famously included a bowl of M&Ms with all the brown ones picked out on their rider. Apparently, they had some bad experiences with trying to put on a gigantic show in venues that weren't used to the massive scope of the production. All of the technical requirements were carefully spelled out in the rider. They knew that if they didn't see brown M&Ms, they could trust that all the other details had been taken care of. If there were brown M&Ms, well, possibly the stage would sink through the arena floor because they ignored the weight requirements, or they would overload the venue electrical because they had skimmed the power requirements. It was a reason to do a full line check at best, and a cancelation of the event (with no notice and probably some band-inflicted damage to the dressing room) at worst.
how do you ddestroy a SM57? was it run over with a tank?
Wait til you see lighting costs.
so for front(wo)man vox you get by with a sm58? Do you ever get people bring their own mic? Ever disinfect the grills?
58s are on just about every show we do. People can bring their own mic if it’s at the same quality or better than what I have. We try to disinfect the grills when we can.
sm57's being destroyed WHAT?!
Where are lapel and collar mics, podium mics.
We do mostly production for live events so the mics you listed aren’t a part of our main kit so i didn’t include them.
What are you using to edit your videos?
Jacob Seppa correct!
Thank you fellas I really appreciate that 😎🤘🏽
First!
How about mic cables?
I usually solder my own or buy them pre made from sweetwater. I buy my cable in bulk from sweetwater and my neutrik xlr connectors or 1/4 from amazon
@@carterg3339 thanks. Love watching your vids. Very informative and eye opening for audio enthusiasts like me.
Safety Officer we will discuss that in a future episode.
First
what about the shure GLXD A with the frec manger ?
chrisakaelf stay away from that 2.4 gHz junk. I would sooner go with a BLX
Why junk?
Salvador Sanchez go buy one for yourself and set it up in even the most sparsely populated region and solo it in headphones. I’ll save you the $500... it has microdropouts constantly. I install these at work. It’s not our favorite to install but it works for bars and whatnot. If you want something nice save up or just go with an SLX which is still a rockstar mic. Even a PGX or BLX (with SM58 grade capsule or better) is better than microdropouts.
I currently have 3 systems, 2beta58's and one wireless guitar haven't had any noticeable drop outs with them yet but something I'm definitely worried about fortunately I didnt pay retail for them
@@markamber1480 I also have them all up to date on the firmwares
First!