SO YOU WANNA MIX CONCERTS? | THE ESSENTIALS THAT YOU NEED | MAKE MONEY AS A SOUND ENGINEER
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- Today I will guide you through the basics of what you need to get started running live sound for a 4-5 piece band. This is just the gear, the knowledge is FAR more important!
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-EV ETX 35P
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-EV ETX18p
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Great points. One of the nice things about the presonus console is the sound check replay. Record all the raw tracks and remix later. This way you can experiment with EQ and compressions along with plug ins on your time and not on a event, plus have some presets ready to speed up live sound check
John, thanks for taking the time to help us newer guys! This one was super helpful for me.
Glad it was helpful!
Love your videos, John. As my sound mentor always says, there's 20 ways to think about (and do) almost anything in sound, you've just got to find the one that makes the most sense to you. He comes from an acting background and has his way, whereas I come from a software programming background and have my own way that's very different. I really enjoy and appreciate seeing how other professionals work and what setups they recommend. Also, I appreciate the reminder that I need to buy subs for my personal kit once my employer start getting gigs again...
Thanks for watching Joshua!
Very helpful. I’ve only mixed a worship band and a charity event live band with horns on A&H SQ5. Only worked with Yamaha TF1 on corporate gigs. Yes totally agree lots to learn. Virtual soundcheck from multitracks is a great way to learn.
This is THE video that I have been waiting on from you, since you made the mentioned “pro audio rig” video. I have gradually expanded my setup since then, most importantly adding the XR18. Excellent video!
Awesome! Thanks for staying loyal to the channel!
Great intro into live sound. Job well done young man.
Great video. I started with pretty much the exact same hardware. I ultimately upgraded to an x32 and and s32 stage box (instead of an analog snake) but honestly could definitely get away with an s16. Anyway. Great advice here. I'd agree with some others that a good 2 way speaker does the job in a small / mid size bar. Of course "milage may vary"
I will be looking forward for the 5 man band live show concert type of videos. Thank you. And God bless you
Dude thank you SO much for doing these videos. Just purchased my first single phase distro. Without your videos I wouldn't have had the same confidence that I do now! Keep em coming!
Cool. Stay safe, electricity is nothing to play with!
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Agreed! I'm a bit nervous about tying in as I've never worked with this much power before and now I'm jumping straight in to bare wire connections from the cams. Not even sure what to look for except for the power disconnect. Anyway I guess I just have to get out there and do it!
Hey dude,
Great video, lots of helpful tips for people starting out!
All our gigs have gone too.
Can do a 'get into lighting' video with you?
Stay safe, let me know what you think
This was really helpful. It resulted in me deciding I don't have the budget to acquire the gear and get started right away. I want to switch from doing photography, so I have decided instead to get an ATEM mini iso and do small scale live streaming services (multi-cam) for product demos etc. I have access to a nice vintage Presonus 16.4.2 mixer and some PA gear for the time being from a band whose audio I will be doing for a while. I will also offer services to bands who want to cut a "demo tape" (including video) at their practice session location. I've done that for a band before and they scored a lot of live gigs on the back of it. Eventually I might accrue enough gear to do small to medium live sound gigs, but I will start by shooting/mixing small seminars and streaming them live with multi-camera setup and make a reputation for that niche. We'll see what happens. Thanks for your tireless efforts to educate and advise. Much appreciated.
I recorded a gig with the XR18. Did it 32 bit float in Pro Tools. All I can say is wow
I’ve used the behringer xr18 for a band setup and you can plug it in to a computer and mix a band
Love my PreSonus 32R rack mixer! For mics I use Phenyx Pro. It's a set of 8 wireless mics from one unit!
With a external access point / router I suggest a POE (power over ethernet) option one so you only need to run a cat5e cable to it and mount the poe injector in the case with the xr18 or any other mixer
Brilliant video as always, although I would just like to point out that the size of the driver does not necessarily equate to power output, and also has little to do with 'hitting those low notes'. Other parameters such as the drivers xmax and free air resonance (Fs) are better indicators of how much output a subwoofer will produce before distorting, and how low it will actually go.
x 42 I don’t disagree with the science, but in the real world I can say with confidence that the vast majority of all live sound systems run 18” subs. Not all, but I would be willing to say 90%.
Your videos are excellent, bless you and your loved ones. Rodge David kidderminster uk 🇬🇧 ❤
Godbless you Brother! You've been an inspiration!
Thanks doc!
I’ve giged for 20 yrs and finally gave up the heavy analog boards and went with a Mackie DL32S no need for snakes 👊Love your videos and your experience ❤️👊
Interested in selling snake and analog
Great stuff, thanks for sharing. Love the comment about cheap mics, will probably sound better not mic'd at all. lol
Senheiser mics are also another mid- high quality microphone option
First off thanks for putting out these tutorial videos. I wanted to know if you can show us how you ring out your mics. And what do you use for a speaker management processor, Do you recommend a DBX or XTA? Thanks 👍
Would like to see various methods of labeling cables, shrink wrap, labels, hook and loop with logos, etc. Thanks John!
Cool. I can handle that!
Another microphone brand I can recommend (I use them and love them): Trantec. Not mega-money, a comparable price and performance to the likes of AKG.
I been a sound engineer for over 14 plus yrs i been using a 15 subs for yrs yeah that built in router is crap i use wedges. It is kinda rough to get booked in live sound you gotta know somebody to reccomend you.
Currently our band runs an x32 rack with 2S8’s for inputs and 1 for outputs to FOH on festival shows. We can run as FOH as well. And run into 6 jbl prx 3 ways and 4 dual 18” jbl subs.
My main job is lead sound tech in a venue in Nashville. No schooling. Mix as a musician. Taught myself
Great video man
Appreciate it!
Hi John, what about doing a video on the Chamysy lighting controller? Were looking into buying one. Thanks and great video as always
Plenty of good videos from the manufacturer. I used them to learn the board.
Man you are awesome wow
briliant vid keep up the good work
Much appreciated
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Another great video. Can you do one like this for lighting?
I can!
Hey John how do you like using the on-board effects in the xair 18? Or do you still rely on outboard effects for live gigs?
Good informative thanks
Thank you for watching!
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btw very informative vid bro ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽
You gotta check out the Lewitt 550 DM dynamic mic for vocals/guitar. imo it's the best handheld dynamic in the $100 price range. Sounds closer to a condenser, as far as realism goes. So much better than anything from Shure, honestly the the only thing the SM58 and SM57 have going for them these days, is their name and the build quality. Sound-wise, they have been outclassed for quite some time.
I’ll have to give them a look! I’ve never heard of Lewitt.
Lewitt mics are flat out amazing! I switched to the Lewitt 040 stereo matched for overheads ($189 for pair) the 140 air for hi hat, ride, acoustic guitar ($149) and the 640 Rex for kick drum which has a dynamic AND condenser ($329) I'm 100% all in on Lewitt! Cheers from Atlanta
sEV7 is a great alternative to loading up with 58s. Can't beat them for the price point. But all personal preference!
@@joeborsch5137 Yep, that's a killer option too!
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Whats the pros and cons of using power speaker like the JbL 835p
Good job!
Thanks for watching!
Hey man, you mentioned ubiquity. I haven’t heard that term thrown around until just recently, but I cant find anything about it, can you explain what that is?
I have not done a live sound gig in 5 months! It's really hard. I still like using my Mackie board. Especially for a 4 piece band with 4 vocals. I wish I can a ULX system but I'm heard that's a no no in NYC. lol And Avid Pro-tools bro is the best!
Which Mackie do you have? I first learned on a 24x8 and loved it so much I bought a used 32x8 when one went on the market locally. It needs a little love, but that love takes a lot of time. Seems I've got that time in spades, now.
I wonder by ULX isn’t good in NYC? As long as you’re not in the illegal bands you should be good I would think.
Hey you, as I said when I saw you in December of ‘22 you inspire me… These are the videos I love
@ John Simmons As a Professional Entertainer and owner of a Multimedia Company, I want to personally Thank You for ALL the wisdom and advice you share with the world. Hopefully I can bring you to the DMV (Delaware, Maryland & Virginia) to do a few workshops. SALUTE!!!
Thanks for watching my friend!
Great video! Question: I have a friend that has a live sound & lighting company that is no longer operating. She offered me free access to any and all of the company's equipment for any gigs that I'm able to get. That means my start up equipment cost is essentially $0, but I'll need to learn the trade. I'm going to volunteer to do sound at my church to gain some experience. This is a unique opportunity. What would you do if you were in my shoes? What learning resources would you recommend? As you mentioned jobs have evaporated due to COVID-19, and it seems like a good time to start building a sound & lighting business while I have nothing else to do. Thanks!
Sounds like a great opportunity.
John... what are the pars on the light bars you have resting up on the side of the wall? The look like they might be ETC's.... but I'm thinking you opted for something less expensive. I need some pars, preferably IP65 rated.... but I can't afford the ETC LED pars. Thanks for any info you can give.
Source 4 pars
Great video, but why is there an Avid Venue Profile on the thumbnail?
The real question is why not! Start small and there’s no telling where you can go.
Why 3-way speakers? I have 2-way QSC boxes and they work/sound great. Do 3-way make a huge difference?
In my opinion a 3 way cabinet allows you to push volume more before breaking up or maxing out. If you are running a stage with monitors you’re going to have to push your mains hard just to get over the stage volume.
What size gigs do you do? There are many variables that can change your choice.
Hey John! My current rig consists of 2 EV ETX12p’s for mains and 4 EV EKX 18sp’s for subs. Most of the events I do are bands playing indoors, bars, clubs, etc... I feeling like I may need to look into something with a bit more output going into the summer season considering that even the ETX cabs are just getting by even doing indoor shows. I am often seeing the limit light come on quite a bit. All that to say, I’m researching what I should be considering going into the summer to do larger shows outdoors of a couple hundred people to 1000 people in attendance. Anything you recommend I look into? I’m aware of all the obvious options such as EV ETX35p, Yamaha DSR215, JBL SRX800, etc... wonder if you have anything wisdom for me in this situation, Thanks
Not quite ready to jump to a line array type of system, but wanting to look at a next step up from my ETX 12’s
ETX 35p’s no question. They pair nicely with the EKX woofers.
John Simmons I feel like I encounter my ETX 12p’s limiting a little early, have you experienced anything of the sort with any of your self powered EV boxes?
I’ve only had that problem with the ZLX stuff that I have and that’s truly because I was pushing the snot out of them. You might post on the EV owners Facebook page. Lots of great resources for ETX owners.
The audio conditioner can be safely removed from the rack, it’s not doing anything.
Hello Can You Please Let Us Know Which DJ App To Use On An iPad ! Is It Free Or Paid?
Djay pro by algoriddim. $10 I believe.
John Simmons Thank You Sir 🙏🏻
Informative as always John. I was waiting for your recommendation for a mixing console. Is that not a requirement for mixing a live band?
He recommended the behringer XR18. Not really sold on relying a show on an iPad ONLY for controls yet but it's good information nonetheless.
Correct. Great starting point for anyone looking to get into live sound without spending $2k on an entry level mixing desk.
@@DjWooPig What John said lol. I personally run an allen and heath gl board because i like analog, allen and heath pre amps, and already had the outboard gear. But in this day and age of digital if I was starting from scratch i wouldn't buy an analog desk and rack gear. It just doesn't make financial sense when digital boards has it all built in. I'm already feeling the antiquated"ness" of my rig but it works and hasn't let me down yet. I still wish I had the ability to control my board from the stage for setting monitors but it just ain't go happen lol.
Thanks for the great response. That went right past me. I'm used to seeing iPad's used in addition to a mixing desk as a remote control to adjust the mix from anywhere in the venue. Really appreciate the feedback. I've been looking at the qsc touchmix. What do you think of those for a small band?
I think the behringer unit Is a better value for the money.
Sir one receiver Consists of two antenna's and the antenna distributior has only four in so how can i connect four receiver for one distributor plz help me out.
That’s why it’s called a distributor. Takes 4 mics with 2 antennas each and combines them down to 2.
@@DjWooPig Worth their weight in gold. One of my regular venues is running 12 radio mic's, they're running JTS kit. What is nice with these antenna distributors is the fact you can cascade them. We're running 12 mic's with 2 paddle antenna's....works great.
Another DI box is the countryman DI box
No mention of shure shark fin antenna?
Not always needed. Especially in a starter rig. The 1/2 waves are far superior to the 1/4 waves they come with out of the box.
Would you recommend Turbosound IQ series of speakers?
For church use
For sure!
I think I've spent almost as much $$$ on cables & power distribution as I have in speakers.
No doubt!
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I think you mixed up the DI box links. Cheap vs Good
Good catch! Fixed!
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Just A warning, not all places of worship will have good gear to learn with depending on which part of the world you live in.
Starting out I joined a band as a guitarist and slowly began to pick up skills, then i worked with a company for a very long time, from a company i wanted to take the church as my side gig. wasn't the best decision of my career as i learned most churches don't have standard or even good enough gear. It very few of them whose gear you will use and work happy. I learnt to make it work but i was never happy as it involved lots of hustles
Could you use a DI Box to eliminate hum if it has a ground lift? I am a DJ and had an external mixer running multiple mics going into my DDJ-SZ at a gig. The hall had not to clean power and I kept getting a hum from the mixer. When I plugged a mic directly into the DDJ-SZ no hum.
It’s worth a shot!
13:09 Doughnut ?
Took a hole saw to it so I could have my wireless XLRs and router cat5 pass through
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If Europeans are watching this, the whole list of stuff you'd need, you don't need. I have never had the need to bring any of my own stuff, the one off occasion where there isn't a PA the organizer will rent it.
the PG drum kit is alright but the overheads are absolute garbage
I would agree. Still light years ahead of CAD or PYLE options for pencil condensers.
John Simmons proboably yes, no experience , dont think they’re available in europe
Tommy Nikiforov get some rode m5 :) Best all around condensors for everything. Choirs, OHs, etc.
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Nicholas Peppas my word. The rode m5 is a killer pencil condensor mic. The ‘nt5’ is even nicer!
I do not agree with you that having 18 "sub is something you must have. In many cases 15" can be more than good enough. if you are running audio for bands. They can produce cleaner sound and not the heavy bass sound many 18 "have. If you are going to use wireless microphones, use a signal amplifier, this will save you a lot of headaches
We will just have to agree to disagree on that one. I will say with confidence that the vast majority of all live sound systems run 18” subs. Not all, but I would be willing to say 90%.
Truly all depends on the gig. If it’s a bar band that doesn’t need a ton of gas or low end in the PA, I agree. But as a general rule of thumb, most production companies will equip themselves with 18” subs because they will generally be able to reproduce more and be able to take more you throw at it
@@jessecoonen7881 I must admit, I still use my 12" subs a lot. For the smaller venues and gigs, 18" subs I find are a little too much. Sure, I can dial them back but if I can save space and weight in what I'm carrying, I'll take the 12s over the 18s. It's great fun if I get to run both though... :D
the best speakers I've ever used are in the more expensive class it's the NEXO RS15 double 15 "