This video is breaking my heart after finding out today, you forgot to add the mag well to my hard chrome PE, and now I have to wait until the end of May for the gun to be redone. The lemonade is it gives me time to buymore ammo in the mean time.👍🏻
@@TommyRibs Yeah, I mean who wants a gun that looks good all the time! Uh, wait, Nope, DLC Rules!!! KnifeMaker/Retired after over 47+ years in the Craft
The reason it became popular was competitive shooting sports. It’s extreme level of hardness GREATLY extended the life of the gun in hard use and harsh environments. Upwards of 70C Rockwell. That’s harder than the average knife blade. For that reason as well it’s better than stainless. The gun can be fitted tighter because that tendency to gall that stainless can tend to have isn’t there.
Boom! I am about that life. I just ordered some pistols from y’all and now I kind of wish I had ordered one of them and hard chrome! lol, Sounds like I’m gonna be ordering a third…
One of the original masters of .45 custom work, Armand Swenson, was known for hard chroming his guns. They were in demand back in the day when soldiers wanted to take them to Viet Nam.
Very interesting and this came into my feed at the right time. I just took delivery of the Tisas Regulator. It’s got a chrome finish. I notice a little haze or shadow on certain parts of the flats of the slide, like where the rails are. You can only see it if you look at it straight on. If you look at it at an angle, it looks perfect. Is that what you guys are talking about? It’s definitely a gangster finish. I bought some gold plated decorative grips on it and at the range EVERYBODY was talking about about it. She sure is purdy
Very interesting and this came into my feed at the right time. I just took delivery of the Tisas Regulator. It’s got a chrome finish. I notice a little haze or shadow on certain parts of the flats of the slide, like where the rails are. You can only see it if you look at it straight on. If you look at it at an angle, it looks perfect. Is that what you guys are talking about?
Yeah, Hard Chrome has been a difficult finish for people to truly understand since it’s very rare to see it anymore….we just had to make a singular video that explains all the nuances. We had to do the same thing about blued guns as well, if you don’t see these traditional finishes very often it’s easy to compare them to modern finishes in every aspect.
Question - Poss to get functioning benefit from the added hard chrome layer on the functional/working surfaces. Such as in the AR type system if the BCG is hard chrome plated often the carrier’s machined dimensions are at standard drawing tolerances, hence ‘tighter’ tolerances in design spec ranges give more efficient function of gas operation for the bolt & carrier plus better carrier lock up in addition to material’s CoF/oil holding IIRC or > lubricity/durability etc in use. Could the varying layer build-up thickness be evened to a sufficiently uniform surface for some operating benefits of some degree above alt. surface coatings or treatments via honing or other processes? If so to degree that any benefits in reliability, function/operating cycle, or accuracy be noticed in real world use any? Criterion’s rifle barrel mfg in addition to hand lapping bore & chamber both pre and post chrome-lining are using some secret sauce application tech. Reportedly giving consistently equal dimensional tolerance and accuracy as their match grade hand-lapped stainless steel barrels. Idly curious
I finally got around to shooting my full hard chrome Prime Elite. 200 230gr freedom seeds down range no problem. Gun passed the 10-8 extractor test no problem. The gun was so nice it felt like cheating shooting it.
People in other industries who use parts that are chrome/silver/gold plated understand the nature of the unevenness of the plating process. To achieve tight tolerances for a precision fit, those parts often have to be lapped in. It occurs to me that the best lapping process (necessary or not) for a hard chrome 1911 takes place at the range. I don’t need another reason to go to the range, but I’ll take it!
I was watching this in the background so i may have missed it but can hard chrome finishes only be applied to steel parts? or can it be applied to aluminum as well?
To show finishes in detail, you need to get yourself a nice magnifying camera and stand (the more magnification the more vibration and movement is disruptive to picture so make a nice weighted stand that you can mount a closer camera to) so you can spend less time saying what we "could see." Semper Fidelis. E pluribus unum.
Come on guys let’s talk about guns - you’re not that funny. White vans and gangsters ain’t cuttin it. This is a 5 minute video at most - get to the POINT.
love the way the two of you interact with each other!.
Not everyone does, it would seem, so we're glad you do!
This video is breaking my heart after finding out today, you forgot to add the mag well to my hard chrome PE, and now I have to wait until the end of May for the gun to be redone. The lemonade is it gives me time to buymore ammo in the mean time.👍🏻
It would be cool if they also made a dark hard chrome. Something different from the black DLC and more durable than a blue finish.
There is a black chrome thats used in the hot rods and knives, I wonder how it would translate to firearms?
@@quintinleong4967Yeah, I like the look of it over regular chrome but it cost more as well.
The “black chrome” used on wheels n such does not work on firearms, plus it adds too much dimension for a tight fit gun.
DLC is really cool, but it is pretty much permanent.
@@TommyRibs Yeah, I mean who wants a gun that looks good all the time! Uh, wait, Nope, DLC Rules!!!
KnifeMaker/Retired after over 47+ years in the Craft
I always imagined you rode around town in an older El Camino with sun glasses and a 1911 and the porn stache. But a low rider Galaxie works.
The reason it became popular was competitive shooting sports. It’s extreme level of hardness GREATLY extended the life of the gun in hard use and harsh environments. Upwards of 70C Rockwell. That’s harder than the average knife blade. For that reason as well it’s better than stainless. The gun can be fitted tighter because that tendency to gall that stainless can tend to have isn’t there.
Boom! I am about that life. I just ordered some pistols from y’all and now I kind of wish I had ordered one of them and hard chrome! lol, Sounds like I’m gonna be ordering a third…
We salute your service to the Glory of John Moses Browning.
One of the original masters of .45 custom work, Armand Swenson, was known for hard chroming his guns. They were in demand back in the day when soldiers wanted to take them to Viet Nam.
I am preparing a video to talk about just that, actually!
Very interesting and this came into my feed at the right time. I just took delivery of the Tisas Regulator. It’s got a chrome finish. I notice a little haze or shadow on certain parts of the flats of the slide, like where the rails are. You can only see it if you look at it straight on. If you look at it at an angle, it looks perfect. Is that what you guys are talking about?
It’s definitely a gangster finish. I bought some gold plated decorative grips on it and at the range EVERYBODY was talking about about it. She sure is purdy
Very interesting and this came into my feed at the right time. I just took delivery of the Tisas Regulator. It’s got a chrome finish. I notice a little haze or shadow on certain parts of the flats of the slide, like where the rails are. You can only see it if you look at it straight on. If you look at it at an angle, it looks perfect. Is that what you guys are talking about?
I've got a Prime Elite (hard fit) with a hard-chrome frame and blue slide....it's pretty sweet.
Another informative yet quite entertaining video. Thanks
Get hard chrome or otherwise. Good info gentlemen thanks for the video and I love chrome and the matte/bead blasted is ideal.
It's my favorite finish, even with all of its "characteristics".
When I saw this video, my first thought was, 'Hey, the guys made a video for me!'.
But, I'm betting it wasn't just me. 😂
Yeah, Hard Chrome has been a difficult finish for people to truly understand since it’s very rare to see it anymore….we just had to make a singular video that explains all the nuances. We had to do the same thing about blued guns as well, if you don’t see these traditional finishes very often it’s easy to compare them to modern finishes in every aspect.
Man those 1911 with Dots are beautiful
Question - Poss to get functioning benefit from the added hard chrome layer on the functional/working surfaces. Such as in the AR type system if the BCG is hard chrome plated often the carrier’s machined dimensions are at standard drawing tolerances, hence ‘tighter’ tolerances in design spec ranges give more efficient function of gas operation for the bolt & carrier plus better carrier lock up in addition to material’s CoF/oil holding IIRC or > lubricity/durability etc in use. Could the varying layer build-up thickness be evened to a sufficiently uniform surface for some operating benefits of some degree above alt. surface coatings or treatments via honing or other processes? If so to degree that any benefits in reliability, function/operating cycle, or accuracy be noticed in real world use any? Criterion’s rifle barrel mfg in addition to hand lapping bore & chamber both pre and post chrome-lining are using some secret sauce application tech. Reportedly giving consistently equal dimensional tolerance and accuracy as their match grade hand-lapped stainless steel barrels. Idly curious
I finally got around to shooting my full hard chrome Prime Elite. 200 230gr freedom seeds down range no problem. Gun passed the 10-8 extractor test no problem. The gun was so nice it felt like cheating shooting it.
I know people like doing that test, but isn't it not good to drop the slide, let alone fire the gun where it drops on an empty chamber?
@@thelastmiddleclass2490it’s fine. It’s a hard use gun and can absolutely handle being fired without a magazine.
People in other industries who use parts that are chrome/silver/gold plated understand the nature of the unevenness of the plating process. To achieve tight tolerances for a precision fit, those parts often have to be lapped in. It occurs to me that the best lapping process (necessary or not) for a hard chrome 1911 takes place at the range. I don’t need another reason to go to the range, but I’ll take it!
I did both my Wilson Combat in it 25 years ago.
Forget who…but I remember Arizona
I've had a couple hard chromed that I shot alot years ago held up well. These days I don't like shiny shit which I could have them done dark.
Do ya offer still a two tone 1911 tuxedo model that ya posted on your instagram page may17,22.
Yes. That is just "hard chrome, frame only".
What model is the left pistol
With the red dot and front serrations ?
Hard chrome. Hard People. Get hard. #chromegetsyoudome
I was watching this in the background so i may have missed it but can hard chrome finishes only be applied to steel parts? or can it be applied to aluminum as well?
Only steel.
Well done gentlemen, and I use that term loosely. Eli that 45 would look so much better if it had a "D" hammer. JS
If I could afford an acw, it would definitely be hard chromed.
You guys are true pros. Great breakdown of hard chrome.
To show finishes in detail, you need to get yourself a nice magnifying camera and stand (the more magnification the more vibration and movement is disruptive to picture so make a nice weighted stand that you can mount a closer camera to) so you can spend less time saying what we "could see." Semper Fidelis. E pluribus unum.
Hard Chrome sounds like it's being anodized?
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Or Carry a Gun that’s Easier for a One Handed Person can Disable and Reassemble like a Glock… 3:19
What does that have to do with hard chrome?
Pure heresy!
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Come on guys let’s talk about guns - you’re not that funny. White vans and gangsters ain’t cuttin it. This is a 5 minute video at most - get to the POINT.
Life ain’t a race man…. No one is getting out alive. Relax and take time to enjoy the process
@@alchemy1911Your process needs help..