King Crimson: Discipline - Stick part
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- So, here my cover of this emblematic KC song from the 80's!
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This is one of the reasons I think Discipline is one of their most perfect instrumentals, Adrian and Robert have one of their most intense interlocking songs and Tony and Bill demonstrate their craft of being cool as hell.
Perfectly stated
And the guitars are hard panned on that track.
I think Discipline is kind of Moebius strip in music: simple and impossibe, short and infinite
I’ve often claimed that Bill Bruford is one of the coolest people…Jack Cassidy, too. ✌️❤️🎶🐶
In the early 90s my guitarist roommate had a Chapman Stick for reasons unknown. I played bass. I learned the main bass riff to Elephant Talk and then put it away satisfied.
i have always had trouble isolating this groove with the insanity going on with the rest of the band, thank you for showing this!
One of my favorite albums ever. Great job.
Thank you! One of my favorite also!
Saw KC on their Discipline tour. They opened the show with that very piece; a fiery crimson red background and the pitch blck outline of the 4 musicians. Amazing.
So did I and the venues were insanely small. The show I attended maybe had 80-100 people.
@@joeyoungs8426Amazing! 🤯
I got to see it at a larger venue (Merriwether Post Pavillion, in MD).. The same place that Jackson Brown recorded the "Won't You Stay", (Just a little bit longer).. Yeah, the intense colored lighting on a larger stage curtain was the only stage set.. Sooo deep in color it was like an atmosphere.. It changed color through out.. but you never noticed when or how.. The whole evening was such an incredible experience.. Will never forget it..
🎶😌🎶❣️👍
Saw KC on their “perfect pair” tour. They nearly played all three albums. One of the greatest shows I ever saw. At the time, I didn’t realize it would soon come to an end… and just how lucky I was.
Apart from the amazing performance obviously. King Crimson offers these array of feelings. The way the chapmanstick is played is unbelievable. But more than that I’ve never seen the face at the end other than in a really close group of people. Appreciating the ending, he is not only playing, he is listening. Brilliant
Thank you very much Stefano!
Hazme un hijo Stefano Rossi
Damn, that's a super fun groove.
Yes, I think so too!
Wherever you look in Crimson's music, there is great music. Great playing.
Yes, that's right! Thanks!
Didn't notice it before hearing the stick out front here, but parts of it has a similar sound to the keyboard on I Robot from Alan Parsons.
It can be - I don't know the sound/music of Alan Parson... :)
Interesting fact.
Both are based on the minor pentatonic scale.
@@keegsmarshall6610 I think he's talking about tone.
@@fejestothgaboryou definitely should try LPs Tales of Mystery and Imagination - Edgar Allan Poe, I robot and Pyramid if you like KC, you’re gonna be amazed.
The most underrated part of this amazing song
Well, yes - in KC songs are guitar parts in the "spotlight", and mostly, they are really the most difficult also. But, not every time just the guitars... :)
@@fejestothgabor Tony Is the glue of the Mighty Crimson King. His parts are always an essential to any of the songs that he plays. Not only fror KC but Peter Gabriel or really any of his collaborations.
A masterpiece taken lightly.
Kinda wished they bump that bass in the mix. Does the song justice just for that groove. I hope RF and Steven Wilson are listening to this and reconsider for the go round.
Hell ya man that was sick. I definitely think Tony Levin complements king crimson perfectly I always loved wen he gets on the stick
Yes, I mean the same - who else thinks in such polymetric forms? :) And my favorites are also songs, as he plays the stick - much more innovative with it than with the bass guitar! (y)
Crazy meter stuff. Master playing!
Thank you!
Love the sound of a stick through a phaser pedal... ! 🤠
Great playing, and really interesting to hear the stick part so clearly.
I can't help watch this video again and again! Really a nice playing. I lets me know that there are more treasure than I thought in this song ---- like Levin's guitar part in the latter half of the song. Really awesome.
Thanks!
awesome! watching videos of this song is like a cheatcode for youtube - so many cool recommendations
nice job. i'm your 1,000th subscriber. congrats on the landmark
Thank you very much! 🙏
Oh god! I was looking for this long time ago. I’m really amazed by KC music. Thank you for shearing your knowledge
Great job. Been loving this stuff for 35 years.
Nicely done sir. Outstanding!
King Crimson in the 80's and in the 70's.... worlds apart.
First time watching someone wearing a shirt from the band whom he's actually making a cover of xD. Super great job btw!
Thanks! I try to wear every time clothes that fit my cover videos!
@@fejestothgabor Great job man! And where’d you get that badass shirt?! Never seen it…
@@masterpuppetz I bought this shirt after a KC concert in Berlin, 2 years ago! This was an unofficial shirt of the 2014 "Elements" tour: on the back you can read the list of the europian gigs 👍
👏awesome!
Love the bass line
It's hard to choose, but one of Levin's best I mean 👍
Sure was 💯 fun for Tony
Nice to see this channel from the start. This will grow❤
Thank you! Yes, this is my goal 😉
¡Bravo bravo bravo! Congrats from Caracas Venezuela.
Thanks Carmelo!
The line at 4:20 is the best! 🔥
It's worth waiting for the end of the song because better and better themes follow each other! 😉
High level stuff... nicely done👍
Thank you very much!
Fantastic. I used to play the Chapman Stick 20 years ago. I wish I had kept it up.
Thanks! There is only one solution: a lot of practice :)
I'm so glad I discovered and clicked on this video. Amazing! TY!
Puzzle transcendin' music 🥰
Yes, it is! 😁
I thought I was the only one who performed this track on a Chapman stick. Great!!!
But you played the guitar parts - I did the stick! 😁
@@fejestothgabor Well yay for you.
First time seeing the Stick being played. Nice.
Thanks 😉
This is just cool. I like when someone is having a good time with music and I feel it
Yessir!
@@yamabiru4553 Thanks 😁
Amazing! Love it!
Amazing!
❤
Amazing bassline, great playing, looove the tone.
Thank you very much!
Super cool, brilliant!
Thanks Simone!
I don’t know if I kinda lost the beat for a while, from around 2:53 to 3:20 or so, or whether maybe you kinda did - I don’t mean COMPLETELY lost it, but rather, were a little behind and/or ahead at times, and not by choice … I do see your brow furrow then, upon rewatching - but regardless, that is a TOUGH piece around that point, and you do an incredible job here, I could only hope to someday play this half as well as you. Kudos on the performance, and thank you for the upload! I’ve had trouble picking out Levin’s part from the overall fabric of the song, especially during the section I highlighted above, so thank you enormously for having here illustrated it. Be well!
Yes, I lost the tempo a bit in that section, there is a bit of a rush in every measure - but then I always managed to resynchronize the beginning of the following measures and the change at 3:20 is also in the right place - well, that's the hardest part to calculate anyway!... enough math music, but that makes it nice :)
Great playing, fantastic sound. Seems like this song was composed for an Instrument like this… I guess I‘l have to look for a stick again myself…
Yes, this song was really born in such a way that the features of the instruments in it gave it its shape - including the fact that it uses Steve Reich's methods!
Не перестану наслаждаться неземной музыкой Алого короля.
Убойная штука.
Wow. Thanks for sharing.
1:44 when the groove gets spicy
Wicked!
Just tricky 😉
Üdv! Amikor a 80-as években először hallottam , nem értettem ezt a zenét........A Crimson 80-as évekbeli albumaiit. .De hallgattam ,mert tudtam , éreztem ,hogy ez valami olyan dolog amihez idő kell ,hogy felfogjam mi folyik itt valójában. Éreztem hogy mögötte valami zsenialitás lapul, ami izgalmassá tette a dolgot, és biztos voltam benne ,hogy azért nem értem ,mert akik megalkották ,fényévekre előbbre járnak ,mint bárki az akkori zenék megalkotói közül és a hétköznapi zenehallgatónak ez szokatlan volt. .........Aztán videón is sikerült szert tennem egy 80-as évekbeli koncertre, VHS agyonmásolt minőségben..............Mára már világos - 40 év távlatából - a KC zenészeinek zsenialitása.-----------Köszönöm, és gratulálok kiváló játékodhoz. Barátsággal : Laci
Nagyon szépen köszönöm Laci a visszajelzést! Valóban eredeti és jövőbemutató zenét játszottak a 80-as években is - nekem könnyű dolgom van, mert csak 2003-ban ismertem meg őket és zenészként talán picit jobban bele tudok mélyedni a műhelyük titkaiba mint átlagember - számomra a leginnovatívabb prog rock zenekar, ha a teljes életművüket vetem össze a többi hasonló bandával! A Chapman Stick pedig csak a hab a tortán :)
Great work! Got proposed that video after listening to a lot of Levin-era Crimson, great to hear the stick part so clearly.
One nitpick though is that at the riff starting at 1:27, you seem to be a quarter note too early on the 2 and 4, compared to the album version. Don't know if it's a personal choice, but it does make the beat a bit weird for my ears.
Thank you for the feedback!
Well, what you wrote, at 1:27, where the A minor theme changes to 4/4 E major, is actually the way I play it originally, so this is the normal part. The A minor theme, which is in 17/8, is no longer played in its entirety, but the end is clipped, and that is why it sounds a little strange when we are already in the next theme. There is a slight slip in the tempo in the recording, at the very end of the C minor theme, but the change to C sharp minor is already in place there as well. Not an easy note, not on any instrument...
Insane!
It is 😁😉
Love that
Thanks!
Very entertaining!
Love it! 👍
Thanks!
Great job!!
If MC Escher were a rock musician. Put down the marker for math rock. All-time great record.
Wow!
chapman stick !!!!!
Finally! 👍
Perfecto !!!
Thanks!
nice sticking!
Thanks!
awesome!
Great
The beauty chapman stick, that's a really cool and enjoyable cover!! Btw, what represents Tony Levin for you?
Thanks very much! But, I don't understand the question about TL exactly, sorry... 🤔
Sorry I probably used wrong translation. I mean what's inspiring you from Tony Levin as musician?
@@Darkser37 Well, what I mean about Tony Levin: High level of professionalism and great humility! He is a very imaginative, innovative musician, without unnecessary self-interest, without virtuosity. Lots of ideas, innovations, great sense of rhythm (!!), but never intrusive, forced. A very humble face whose character has not been changed by success - and the same is true of Peter Gabriel f.e.!
@@fejestothgabor totally agree, he's with Chris Squire my favorite bassist
You know the 480p effects the audio too? Seriously though I can't believe I grew up with this resolution, I can barely stand to look at it anymore.
No, I don't know this effect. Should I hear it on this recording or why did you say it?
Nice!
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Great !
Thanks!
sounds awesome man, glad to see you bringing life to an underrated instrument. i was just wondering where you got that shirt it looks real nice
Thank you very much for the recognition! I bought the t-shirt back in Berlin 3 years before a Crimson concert - maybe an unofficial t-shirt from the 2014 tour anyway.
wow
absolutely amazing job. you've just earned another sub
Thanks!
Wow Gábor, you're video is gonna stick.
Where's your illuminated, crimson background?
👏👏👏👏
you got a new sub good man!
Thank you!
Yeaaar, man! Hello from Ukraine!
Hi Rom! 😉
what's the time signature for the stick? I believe guitars are in 5/4 but stick and drums... idk
The guitars are in 5/8, the drum is 4/4, and the stick is in 17/16! But, just in the beginnin (A-minor) section. The second (E major) section is in 4/4 tutti, and then polimetria again... At the end, Stick and guitars goes in 3/4, but the drum plays 4/4 onward. 😁
@@fejestothgabor Daaamn, thanks a lot, man! These guys were not kidding with the tittle of Discipline, right? Now, back to the song to count it all! Thanks again
@@eduardotena7596 This song is half music, half math - but if you just listen, it doesn’t turn out, very nice melodic music! :D
Crazy.,.
Do you know what tuning tony uses for the stick? Is it the same for every KC song of the discipline era?
Yes - he used classic tuning at the time, which means eADGC f#he'a'd" when you look frontwise at the instrument! He later switched to a 12-string Stick and has his own tuning on it: heADGC cfbeb'ab 'db'', which is a semitone lower on the melody side compared to the 12-string classic tuning.
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I'm a bit late to the conversion, but what effects are you using?
Just a simple phaser on the bass side.
@@fejestothgabor thank you! I'll dust off the ol' DOD Phasor 490. :-)
Nice👍
Thanks!
I hate to be a snot, but the B-parts aren't being played quite right here! You're ahead 1/6th, so it sounds to me. Am I wrong?
I'm not sure exactly which one you mean by "Part B". If you play 4/4, which is in E major, it's completely accurate. However, around 3:20 I was really in a bit of a hurry, if you were thinking about that, you noticed it right. The really difficult thing is to catch the shift well at 3:25, because it is quite difficult to calculate, but it worked out perfectly here.
nice job
Thanks!
La wea buena man
Классно. Только свет включить надо было.
Gratulálok
Köszönöm!
Great stuff! Do you have any transcriptions for this part? Your performance is the only material i can find on the internet
Thanks! Yes, I found a full partiture of the song - search it, the transcriber is Gabirel Riccio!
@@fejestothgabor Thanks for getting back to me! That transcription is exactly what i've been looking for! Unfortunately it looks like he's taken the chart down since it's a part of his new discipline era transcription book. I guess i'll have to pay and wait for the book or figure it out by ear and watching your playing
New transciption book:
musicscores.bandcamp.com/merch/the-discipline-era-transcriptions-king-crimson
Old link to his discipline blog post. There's a link to his discipline transcription that says "page not found":
brutalprog.com/artrocktendencies/article/rock-meets-classical-part-6-analyzing-discipline
Former Crimson touch guitar player Trey Gunn helped transcribe all the parts on the whole Discipline album, and there's sheet music for sale now.
@@eddievhfan1984 i have it on preorder i’m excited
Very nice, a decent start! There are flaws though: syncopations mistaken for downbeats, lost ornamentation in the Stick high parts. Easily corrected, though!
Yyeahhhh
If I see the word "underrated" on another UA-cam video, I swear to God I'll gouge my eyes out! STOP IT!
How underrated is the topic in which we dispute the validity of how underrated it is to praise a video that processes underrated music.... :D
@@fejestothgabor great...thanks. now I'm blind. Seriously, check out ANY video of ANY guitar player...."he's so underrated." No....he isn't.
@@megadethmofo2001hey, settle down, m’kay? :)
Why is he only focusing on Tony's playing with King Crimson. There are so many other different projects that he has played with. What about demonstrating his playing on some of their music?
I understand the suggestion, it's legitimate. I've already thought about making a mix of the Peter Gabriel tracks played by Tony on the Stick, that will probably be done, but not until next year. The Stick Men project is a more complicated matter, but fortunately I have sheet music for several tracks, so there is a chance that it will eventually become 1-2 covers. However, for now I want to "finish" the tracks from the THRAK album and a few more from the Discipline era, so that they are all available and visible on my channel. 👍
Why doesn't it work ?
Sorry, I don't understand what do you ask
What effects are you using? The tone is perfect man!
Just a simple phaser on the bass slide 👍
The biggest difference with I find with Bruford is makes everything swing in a cool way with a groove. Pat was great in a run but when Bruford left Pat just has no groove to his playing. Pat is technically amazing but his drumming never makes be want to move like this forces you to move.
He's not always playing like the record sounds. At some parts he did less notes, at some other parts he forgot to put pentatonic chords. I give my kudos for the gutz, but for its complete respect of the song tablature... No. For those who needs time stamps, just ask.
@Donjonneau 👈🏼 turd in the punchbowl.
'80s not 80's.
I noticed when learning this song on drums, every instrument has to oay attention to itself rather than eachother.
I don’t get this kind of stuff. Always thought King Crimson was asshole pretentious music. Just throwing a bunch of notes together that don’t really go together and calling it fusion. And that Dipstick instrument has a terrible tone.
wtf
You should try five finger death punch. Might be more your speed.