Spock allows Lt. Saavik to pilot Enterprise out of spacedock much to the dismay of Kirk and McCoy. This is one of my favorite scenes from The Wrath of Khan.
It's funny, since ST2 I've seen several movies where the music sounded familiar, and I looked it up and it was James Horner. He has a distinctive Style
Proper Star Trek movies are when they spent 10 minutes or so just showing the Enterprise slowly moving out of dock whilst music is playing. Modern Trek movies would have an entire battle filled with hundreds of aliens shooting at each other crammed into that same amount of time. Sometimes slower is better, and less is more.
We had better imaginations in the late 1900s compared to my kids today, they have no attention span for these sort of things being raised on different media
She would've been in other Star Trek movies if She hadn't been Greedy. Thinking She was Just as important as Regular TOS from Earlier movies/ main Enterprise crew.
@@andynieuwenhuis7833 She thanked her agent big time for getting her the Saavik role. Same agent told her to turn down the next offer...$100k less and 30% more lines. When she finally appeared at a convention, she hoped no one held a grudge against her for listening to her agent. When Leonard Nimoy took over the next one, he said "she was extremely well paid for the first film...but her agent wasn't able to see the long term value of being a Trek castmember" You have to remember that the current cast of Trek fought, scratched and starved their way into getting whatever role they could manage. Ms Alley on the other hand moved from Topeka, appeared in 4 game shows and got one low budget movie role (with Marina Sirtis) in 7 months prior to being on ST2. It's was a matter of perspective.
I like how the interior. ( and i know it was 80's tech) but.i liked the darkness of the bridge and saucer section interior. Kind of like some submarine type sh×t.
@@bundesautobahn7 it is the best looking out of ALL the federation crafts....especially JJ ABRAMS SHIPS. THE INSIDES DONT CO INSIDE WITH THE OUTSIDE. ESPECIALLY. THE SCENES ON INTO DARKNESS...WHEN THE DIFFRENT LEVELS LOOKED LIKE A SHOPPING MALL. AND I THE SHAPE WAS OVAL..INSTEAD OF ROUND.
Whats amazing listen to the background voices, they are going through a pre-flight inspection while Kirk and spock are talking. THAT is attention to detail that has been lacking in other star trek movies. That attention to detail and naval realism gave ST II a sense of realism that many SCI-FI films sorely lack.
The pre-launch background dialogue overheard on the bridge as Kirk and McCoy arrive is almost identical to the checklist overheard in main engineering before the Enterprise launches in Star Trek: The Motion Picture.
I get that it is supposed to be a funny moment, but it always bugged me a little that she isn't really piloting the Enterprise, she is commanding it. I think if she suddenly said "Warp Speed" in Spacedock that Sulu is not going to just say "rodger dokie" and fly the Enterprise into a wall or something.
One of the particular things that I love about the bridge scene is how real they made everything feel and the professionalism that's given here. Listening to all the background voices and mannerisms that's being given before leaving space dock. Very well executed and very believable. I can't think of any other movie or episode in the entire franchise that's topped this performance or could for that matter. This crew has really set the bar here.
Another small detail I noticed was the trainee working the helm with Sulu was very animated; his head turning this way and that as he worked, showing his inexperience by not knowing / being sure where everything was. Sulu, on the other hand, was much calmer and barely glances down as he instinctively knows where everything is.
I grew up with TNG and later but have to admit you're spot on and it's beautiful, Enterprise-D bridge seems like a lounge/living room at times, as did Voyager. I think DS9 did it quite well in Ops but still not as flawless as here to give the feel of really being there.
Such beautiful tranquil moments missing today. Spock's glances as Kirk and then Savik's glance to Kirk as well, WITHOUT SHOWING a cut-away to Kirk's face. Nowadays, the director would cut to Kirk's face which is a condescending way to make sure the audience knows who they're staring at. This way here gives it more impact: They're aware of his presence and power as the highest-ranking officer on deck and a legend, and they're dancing around him with reactions to their own character arc. (Spock is an old friend and having some fun at Kirk's expense/ Savik is nervous and doesn't want to screw up in front of the principal). By not doing a cut-away to Kirk, we're actually more aware of him being there and it adds to the character and tension. It's subtle and adds much... and I'm seeing less and less of it sadly.
Spock's like "finally, I get to scare the hell out of Jim for once, like he always scares the hell out of the rest of the crew". His decision definitely had an emotional basis to it, even if he could give a logical reason for making it.
As a captain who has pulled such stunts before, throwing a greenhorn the reins in a training situation is great experience. She’s being overseen by a superior officer. In addition he can put her in a perceived pressure situation in front of the admiral without actually having any real consequences for her screwing things up ->good command experience, and a good Captain should want his or her staff to be able to function well under pressure situation in their absence. He lets Sulu plot the course himself too which kind of flys under the radar, not that Sulu is under pressure or a greenhorn, but it highlights how un impactful the training flight is and how the command isn’t there to watch a certain course being plotted, command is there to watch how the operation is performed and how the staff react.
@@drewski5730 I know he had a logical reason for letting her have the conn as they left dock. Enterprise at this point is a training ship. She was in command training. Logical to train her on the training ship. That's not entirely why Spock did it though. His eyebrow raise wasn't just realizing "hey, I should let the trainee do this so she learns". The glance towards Kirk and Bones before he gave her the order to take them out gave his true... "feelings"... away. He let her do it at least partly to mess with Jim. He even gave the slightest, and I do mean barely noticeable tiniest muscle twitch of a smirk while glancing at Kirk.
@@brch2 EXACTLY. Seems like Spock was doin' everything he could and then some to *NOT* go full emotional and cheese like the Joker when he told Saavik to "take her out".
No1sonuk Enterprise is still Kirks baby. He has all the faith in the world when it comes to Sulu. Not much anyone else in 'his' chair, though. Aside from Spock.
Given how Kirk micromanages Sulu in TOS, maybe he thinks Sulu _will_ crash the ship if she gives the wrong commands. (If you want an example of said micromanaging, see 'Arena' where despite being under fire planet-side, Kirk insists on personally running the simultaneous space battle by communicator, giving Sulu such insightful commands as 'fire phasers'.)
Never gets old. Saw this in the theater when i was a LOT younger. It's been here on You tube for 13 yrs... still, I'll watch it. Leaving dry dock. It was such a treat to see our beloved Enterprise as she should be, could be, the way I always imagined her... It was like watching a queen who always had to wear work clothes and costume jewelry, her entire life, suddenly walk through the door wearing silk, diamonds and a handsome crown. Science fiction at its best.
I love Scotty's smile when Kirk does the "dust check". He knows that Kirk doesn't want to do the inspection and that he isn't going to find anything (especially dust), but Kirk had to make like it's a serious business. If it had been any other admiral, Scotty wouldn't have smiled, because he wouldn't know the person as well as he knows Kirk.
Such an amazing moment as the Enterprise's running lights are coming on, and her engines come to life. Hard to believe it was over 40 years ago I was watching this moment in a theater in awe of the massive ship moving out of dock. Still gives me chills. Wish they would show old movies like this in theaters.
Independent theatres usually show classics. I saw blade runner that way and that movie is older than i am. I saw the movie a million times but in the a theatre was a new experience for me
In the extended version of Star Trek II,Admiral Kirk is having a chat with 1 of the engineer trainees,who was being very bold. That trainee was Scotty's nephew.
This is the harbinger of doom... it is a final look at the grandeur of the NCC-1701 - the last time we will see her whole - her voyage nearing its end. After this she is a battle scarred "wreck" - her majesty marred by battle with Reliant - and her inevitable demise soon to follow. I do love the theft in Star Trek III - it too is a great scene - even with the ridiculous way in which Excelsior is disabled and the campy "backfire" noises. The ship was always an additional character on the show - no credits - just badassdom.
The backfire noises was a bit much but Scotty being the engineer he was pulling out just the right chips so the excelsior couldn't get warp speed is believable. He didn't like some of the changes on the excelsior.
I wonder how many people haven't appreciated just how rare of an opportunity Sulu was given. How often does a Helmsman, on *any* ship, have such a chance when the vast majority of the time all they can do is take the ship where they are *ordered* to take it? Being given a free hand on the reigns of the horse (so to speak) is not "normal' or "common" by any stretch.
@@MidnightDStroyer I don't think such a thing exists at all. Even the captains of our navies go where the generals back at HQ tell them to go. So, you're definitely right.
Star Trek II still my all time favorite Star Trek movie. I remember waiting in a line that wrapped around the theater twice to watch it as a kid. This scene with the awesome score, with the crew making all the quiet preparations like a true professional StarFleet crew - simply awesome. They need to bring back subtle details like that in modern sci-fi.
I will never ever forget the first time I saw this movie and this part. I was in Junior High(Middle) school in 1982. This sequence went through my head almost every hour of every day. I remember shaking in my seat while watching this movie. It still stands as the most exciting movie I had ever seen in my childhood. I'm a fan for life. Even at the age of 43. :)
Oh you can bet on that. The way he looked at Kirk before turning over command. But I really don’t understand what the big deal was/ she just said do it. It was Sulu who did all the work.
The command of one quarter impulse power was key here. It was apparently something Kirk always did to irritate Starfleet because regulations required thrusters only. Spock probably worked it out with Saavik earlier just to give him a taste of his own medicine. Kirk would then later return the favor in Star Trek 6.
@@lightharbormusic I’m glad someone else caught that. Kirk loved to mess with the controllers. But the fact that Savak called for impulse is interesting. She is so by the book. I wonder if it wasn’t an oversights by the writers?
@@pauldavis9387 It's a question of legal responsibility to the ship. If the Helmsman (Sulu in this case) dinged the ship, he'd be in trouble, but whoever was at the Conn (Saavik) would be legally liable as the commanding officer. It true in real life navies and presumably true for Starfleet. If she had smashed another ship or the inside of spacedock basically drag-racing the equivalent of a nuclear-powered carrier, she could be cashiered, or posted to a subspace relay platform at the ass-end of nowhere for the rest of her very long life. Kirk got away with a "cowboy" command style because he always made it work somehow in the end, or he had people like Pike to cover for him early on.
The TOS have a wonderful charm about them. They also have some of the best themes played to simply the USS Enterprise leaving spacedock, giving the sense that the Enterprise leaving spacedock is a ceremonious event which desires your awe. I feel like the music is responsible 75% of this 'effect' Also, lol when McCoy asks if Kirk would like tranquilizer.
Best part of this scene is Kirk nearly having a panic attack when Saavik takes the chair. "want a tranquilizer?" asks McCoy, followed by some brilliant facial ticks by Shatner, ROFL.
The good Doctor certainly knows his "patient," doesn't he? Such a high level of adrenaline & endorphins that must be surging through Kirk's bloodstream right then...
JAMES HORNER RIP - This scene would have been a total TMP recycle if not for Horner's AMAZING score. Well, and the awesome uniforms too. I love the red wraparound-tunics in these movies.
It's easy to forget these days just how hot Kirstie Alley was back in the day. Plus, if they had listened to her character, this would have been a short movie and Khan would have had a bad time lol.
It's 50/50 - a film about Intelligence vs Wisdom, Saavik was right in her knowledge of regulations about raising shields when approaching the Reliant, but then later in the film its Kirk's experience as a commander that bests Khan Khan and Saavik are in the same boat when Spock says "He's intelligent, but not experienced" - to me that's the whole point of the film anyway
For those that were wondering why Kirk was suddenly shaky when Saavik piloted the Enterprise out of the dock. This was a connecting parallel to the hazards of ocean going naval and merchant ships leaving a port or dry dock. In many ports around the world there are often tight clearances, sharp turns to make, and other vessels nearby so the chances of collisions are greater in a port or dock than out in open sea. Some of you have likely seen the UA-cam videos of ships, within a port or harbor, accidentally ramming docks, tugboats, other ships, or causing other small vessels to capsize as they attempt to leave or come in to dock. Here, even though all Saavik is doing is having Sulu move forward, notice that this space dock has little room on either side of the Enterprise.
+ACLTony Many ports actually send out personnel (harbor pilots) that take command of the ship just for this reason. They are paid very well. Great comment.
+ColSandersLives Thanks! I noticed some of the comments that indicated that some didn't understand why Kirk suddenly got a bit nervous. Big Ship + Narrow Dock + Rookie Pilot = STRESS!, lol.
This scene shows the togetherness of the bridge crew and the ship as well as she leads them out for the next big adventure into space. I first seen this movie back in 1982 . To this day, The wrath of Khan is still the best ST movie.
The attention to detail in this sequence is amazing. The dock working waving as the ship pulls out....the background chatter of the pre-launch checklist. The new ST movies could learn a little from this....
I really enjoyed the brief moments we see Spock in the chair it really seems like he's more confident & logically giving orders to Sulu without having to give up the seat to Kirk. This is his ship now.
At times in this sequence you can see that Kirk is actually quite pleased with the Cadets. The way Saavik handled the big chair, actually brought a bit of smile to the Admiral's face. Though, I know that part of him was wishing he was sitting in the chair.
I will always- the way kirk took his napkin and sampled how clean the console was, and scotty's smile of satisfaction was always- humorous. People don't generally think along these lines.
hatchbx He did, Jerry Goldsmith's score in the motion picture was amazing, I find some of James Horners work great but he does recycle is work far to often
Marvellous though this new Enterprise departure from Space Dock is, the real departure of old Ark Royal from Plymouth gets my vote for first place. ua-cam.com/video/GAgV57KW1_0/v-deo.html
2:09; "Would you like a tranquiliser?" So much information on the concerns and feelings of 2 men for the immediate future wrapped up in one short sentence.
+JediNg135 Yep, Kirk wanted to skip the inspection and see his former ship get into action, even if it's just a trip around the solar system. Spock was a cool captain. The writers should have had shown him in command of his own ship at the end of Star Trek VI or at the beginning of Star Trek Generations. What could have been.
Spock said in Movie II, that although he is a good educator and commander, he don't feel like he is able to be a good captain, as he couldn't attach emotionally with his crew. That's one of the reasons, why the Vulcan commanded ships are run 100% by Vulcans, they understand this, but humans wouldn't. And well, he already was working on his new career as a diplomat in and after movie 5, because he has decided to retire from Star Fleet together with the rest of the crew, although he would be only 67 years old then (just to compare: T'Pol of Star Trek was OLDER when she became second in Command in Enterprise, 66 is not a huge age for a species that can reach 250 years of age.) He didn't plan to command after the happenings of the trilogy. (What's interesting of Star Trek is, that ST is in a way the history of Spock (or better said told by Spock), he is the only character who has been from the first pilot until 2389 in duty (as he was after Nemesis the embassador on Romulus again) and even in the newest movie. The only series where no Spock was living was Enterprise :D
McCoy actually asks if he wants Saavik tranquilized if you listen closely lol bust still th elook son both McCoy and Kirks face when Spock lets Saavik take the ship out is a corker, ha ha, leeting these young cadets be in charge of the ship he has commanded for so many years
NCC - The art director Matt Jefferies thought of it. It's based on 20th century aircraft registration code. (N used to mean registered to the USA, C stands for civil aircraft. Also because NC was for US crafts and CC CC was for Soviet Crafts, they combined the two.) Also apparently lot of star trek novels and documents say that NCC stands for "Naval Construction Contract". 1701 - 17 stands for the 17th cruiser design and 01 is the serial number.
I LOVE when Spocks eyebrow goes up he is going to do something. LOL The look of HORROR on Kirks face is priceless! Star Trek 2 will always be the best of the Trek movies and a top five greatest sci fi movies of all time.
A really excellent scene that breathes life into familiar visuals, especially the overwhelming excitement of Captain Kirk and the deadpan offer of a tranquilizer by Dr. McKoy.
Near the end of this scene is when the woman seated ahead of me in the theatre leaned over to her husband and said "This is really good." She also was of course in tears when Spock died. The theatre (Shady Oak in Clayton, Missouri) was PACKED. Everyone loved it.
+jmtnvalley Freaked no. More like anxious. The enterprise is his baby. I'd imagine he doesn't trust anybody with it. Even if its just commanding the ship out of spacedock
@@deltaray3 Because it´s a SHIP with the common specific SHIP-Chain-of-command: Captain gives the orders to the First Officer, who then passes the orders to the (bridge)Crew accordingly and in this case the order was pointed to the HELMSMAN, which is Mr Sulu. That is how it has been done for centuries in REAL life and that´s how it´s done (correctly) in Star Trek. Helmsman is NOT a captain despite he is the supposedly "driving". Helmsman MAY become an "acting" captain only by a given order directly from the Highest Rank Officer on the ship, or in case ALL the other Officers of Higher Rank than the Helmsman himself are DEAD or INCAPABLE of performing their duty.
Mister is the correct naval term for a midshipman. generally, in the forces, you address the rank and not the person and the ranks are genderless. most senior female officers are referred to as "Sir". there are some that insist on being called "Ma'am" or something like that but very rarely especially in the British forces as the term "Ma'am" is used by the Queen (Ma'am rhyming with jam and NOT harm).
2:10 Kirk just shaked his head made me laugh 😂 I seen this part when I was a kid I did that before but when I was older now I saw when he smiled since along time ago 😂😂😂
The takeaway from this scene is Spock has a sense of humour...he knows it is stressing out Kirk and McCoy Savik taking out the Enterprise (Sulu is at the helm so it is an odd concern) but he can hide behind his Vulcan logic for the shits n giggles! Love this scene!
So grateful to James Horner for the soundtrack that set the noble tone for the trilogy. A thank you as well to Stephen Barton Frederik Wiesmann for the Picard Season 3 soundtrack, an homage to Horner, and incorporating Alexander Courage, Jerry Goldsmith & Horner's styles into the music.
Star Trek then: They had to out think a genetically superior human hell bent on revenge. Star Trek Now: They beat the aliens by playing "Sabotage" by the Beastie Boys
Star Trek Beyond was phenomenal and having Captain Kirk save the day with the Beastie Boys was a super fun spin on the classic Star Trek trope of having to find the right signal frequency to talk to the aliens.
They still had to come up with that totally off the wall idea. The JJ movies are cheap entertainment for sure, but they’re still good movies. They’re just in a different category.
This whole movie was fantastic, but this scene alone is the one that still gives me goosebumps. Every time. That majestic swell, as we see the Enterprise, the pride of Starfleet, leaving Spacedock, ready to explore whatever adventure awaits next. I love the Enterprise D, I love the E, those are excellent designs...but the Constitutional Retrofit Enterprise A is MY Enterprise. This scene was entirely about her, and I loved it immensely. Always will, and I mean, not to mention that Star Trek II was an excellent movie all around. I think the new reboots are still struggling to find the footing that original Trek found in its second movie.
Seems silly today maybe, but my dad was Army and my brother Navy. I used to go out to Fort McPherson-where Leonard Nimoy served his Army service and where his daughter Julie, my sister and younger brother were also born. My sister used to live in Decatur where Deforest Kelley once lived. At North Ga.College, cadets at the back of the campus theatre yelled "airborne" when the Enterprise took off in the movies and those, including non-cadets, yelled "all the way!" For a memorial service to about 6-7 students there omelet week, a bagpipes played "Amazing Grace" on the drill field for them as Scotty played for Spock and a Scottish Rite Oriental Bagpiper also played it for my dad 2 years later. That's why I cried at the end of "ST:4"- for my dad (28 yrs.) and Capt. Spock too.
"Would you like a tranquilizer?" 🤣🤣🤣 If there's one thing that keeps me looking at these classic clips, it's the hopeful vision of the future that Star Trek provides. I need that reassurance quite often these days.
This is such a beautiful movie. From Kirk being scared of growing old to spocks death. To Kirk coming full circle at the end and feeling young again. A truly great movie. Equal to the enlure strikes back
The JJ Abrams movie had glitz and special effects. Pine and Quinto and Urban were good but there's just no comparison to the original thing. It's too bad that he strayed so far from the canon.
Raymond Conlon The problem is they didn't even stay consistent or make sense to the in-universe rules established by the writers. This parallel universe was supposed to be created by the branching off of timelines due to Nero's arrival in the past....but even before those changes, there are marked differences between the stories background information. JJ Abrams basically just created an action movie with some basic words thrown in like "warp drive" and "phasers" and didn't care how it worked as long as there was flashy lights and lots of mindless action. Which, if you take it merely on the context of being a popcorn action flick, it works well enough. But as Star Trek, in any form? No....it's not. And it never will be.
compmanio36 The divergent point isn't Nero's emergence from the black hole, it's as far back as Edith Keeler. Since the Enterprise will not have the same time-travel adventures vs seen in the original series/films, so to will future Starfleet crews have alternate adventures, which will affect the past.
Raymond Conlon Huh, I hadn't heard that.....is that info they put into the comic or whatever it was that was supposed to fill in the backstory? How could situations that far back be affected when Nero didn't arrive until centuries later?
compmanio36 Well, just consider: how can the time-travel adventures of the Kirk Enterprise, Picard Enterprise, Deep Space Nine, Voyager etc occur as we saw them in the Prime timeline following Nero's incursion's? Whether or not they were part of established history or not, they no longer happen now. Soon as that black hole formed in the past, the timeline - past and future - was completely different. Sort of like in the episode "Yesterday's Enterprise" to some extent. It's a bit difficult to wrap your head around, but it explains why Starfleet is so different (USS Kelvin).
+drlee2 Yes, you're right! Neat thing about Spock is that he often affirms his Vulcan way of thinking and mannerisms, yet from time to time he will pull off a sneaky "fast one" on his friends without missing a Vulcan beat.
The Vulcan humor is, as we have learned in Enterprise, a more subtle one, they like the unexspected, not 100% logical, as it's contradicts their typical experience. And nobody says, that Vulcans don't understand emotions (they have Pon Farr, never to forget), they just don't use them for decision making.
I love how you can see Spock thinking: "how much will this piss Jim and Bones off? I wonder if I can make 'em sweat? Bones will jump and scream and Jim will have a stroke."
Over thirty years later, James Horner's amazing score still gets me.
It still gives me a thrill after all of these decades.
Who is James Homer? And in what did he get his _amazing_ score?
@@kellyrayburn4093 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Horner
It's funny, since ST2 I've seen several movies where the music sounded familiar, and I looked it up and it was James Horner. He has a distinctive Style
James Horner also did a great job with "Apollo 13", "Titanic", and "Avatar"!
"Mr. Sulu, you may... Indulge yourself."
That line always puts the biggest grin on my face.
I believe he went a grabbed Kirks crotch after the order was given.
Ooh Mmyyyyyyyy
"Not in front of everyone, Mr. Sulu!......"
Oh no. Here comes the Mr. SULU jokes...😂
Proper Star Trek movies are when they spent 10 minutes or so just showing the Enterprise slowly moving out of dock whilst music is playing. Modern Trek movies would have an entire battle filled with hundreds of aliens shooting at each other crammed into that same amount of time. Sometimes slower is better, and less is more.
That's because modern Star Trek is trying to out star wars Star Wars.
Ironically I enjoy the new Star Trek movies over the new Star Wars movies :P
A time to breathe and enjoy the majesty of the old girl.
We had better imaginations in the late 1900s compared to my kids today, they have no attention span for these sort of things being raised on different media
I 100% agree
Lt. Saavik portrayed so well by Kirstie Alley, leading the graceful ship out of spacedock gracefully.
R.I.P. Kirstie
She waaas a hottie!
I guess she hadn't read the starfleet regulations about the use of thrusters only while in spacedock
She would've been in other Star Trek movies if She hadn't been Greedy. Thinking She was Just as important as Regular TOS from Earlier movies/ main Enterprise crew.
@@andynieuwenhuis7833 She thanked her agent big time for getting her the Saavik role. Same agent told her to turn down the next offer...$100k less and 30% more lines. When she finally appeared at a convention, she hoped no one held a grudge against her for listening to her agent. When Leonard Nimoy took over the next one, he said "she was extremely well paid for the first film...but her agent wasn't able to see the long term value of being a Trek castmember" You have to remember that the current cast of Trek fought, scratched and starved their way into getting whatever role they could manage. Ms Alley on the other hand moved from Topeka, appeared in 4 game shows and got one low budget movie role (with Marina Sirtis) in 7 months prior to being on ST2. It's was a matter of perspective.
Inside and out, this is still the best looking ship in all of Star Trek.
Yeah caddy..and the most realistic. But paramount was some cheap bastards to use S.T. ONE FOOTAGE FOR PART TWO.
I like how the interior. ( and i know it was 80's tech) but.i liked the darkness of the bridge and saucer section interior. Kind of like some submarine type sh×t.
I love the refit Enterprise.
@@bundesautobahn7 it is the best looking out of ALL the federation crafts....especially JJ ABRAMS SHIPS. THE INSIDES DONT CO INSIDE WITH THE OUTSIDE. ESPECIALLY. THE SCENES ON INTO DARKNESS...WHEN THE DIFFRENT LEVELS LOOKED LIKE A SHOPPING MALL. AND I THE SHAPE WAS OVAL..INSTEAD OF ROUND.
Amen 🙏
Whats amazing listen to the background voices, they are going through a pre-flight inspection while Kirk and spock are talking. THAT is attention to detail that has been lacking in other star trek movies. That attention to detail and naval realism gave ST II a sense of realism that many SCI-FI films sorely lack.
That background chatter is really missed in Discovery.
The pre-launch background dialogue overheard on the bridge as Kirk and McCoy arrive is almost identical to the checklist overheard in main engineering before the Enterprise launches in Star Trek: The Motion Picture.
Background chatter seemed to disappear by the time of TNG. Too bad..it gave a sense of how many departments/sections were on these ships.
They do have it in one or two of the Enterprise D docking sequences - and in Ten-Forward
Didn't know that.Have to check it out.On TOS though,they probably had background chatter even in the bathroom stalls.
McCoy's expression when Spock has Savik take the Enterprise out is priceless, as is his line to Kirk "Would you like a tranquilizer?"
I am missing this kind of subtle humour in todays Star Trek movies.
1:57 their faces are like "God help us all".
womenz drivers amirite?!?!
@@stevealikonis9467 I think just that she'd never piloted a ship out of space dock before.
I get that it is supposed to be a funny moment, but it always bugged me a little that she isn't really piloting the Enterprise, she is commanding it. I think if she suddenly said "Warp Speed" in Spacedock that Sulu is not going to just say "rodger dokie" and fly the Enterprise into a wall or something.
One of the particular things that I love about the bridge scene is how real they made everything feel and the professionalism that's given here. Listening to all the background voices and mannerisms that's being given before leaving space dock. Very well executed and very believable. I can't think of any other movie or episode in the entire franchise that's topped this performance or could for that matter. This crew has really set the bar here.
Most of them were cadets working in front of an admiral and a legend in his own right!
...and that James Horner score just makes the scene.
mannerisms
Another small detail I noticed was the trainee working the helm with Sulu was very animated; his head turning this way and that as he worked, showing his inexperience by not knowing / being sure where everything was. Sulu, on the other hand, was much calmer and barely glances down as he instinctively knows where everything is.
I grew up with TNG and later but have to admit you're spot on and it's beautiful, Enterprise-D bridge seems like a lounge/living room at times, as did Voyager. I think DS9 did it quite well in Ops but still not as flawless as here to give the feel of really being there.
Such beautiful tranquil moments missing today. Spock's glances as Kirk and then Savik's glance to Kirk as well, WITHOUT SHOWING a cut-away to Kirk's face. Nowadays, the director would cut to Kirk's face which is a condescending way to make sure the audience knows who they're staring at. This way here gives it more impact: They're aware of his presence and power as the highest-ranking officer on deck and a legend, and they're dancing around him with reactions to their own character arc. (Spock is an old friend and having some fun at Kirk's expense/ Savik is nervous and doesn't want to screw up in front of the principal). By not doing a cut-away to Kirk, we're actually more aware of him being there and it adds to the character and tension.
It's subtle and adds much... and I'm seeing less and less of it sadly.
Well said.That sense of naval chain of command is awesome.
That's always been my favorite part of this. Spock's little troll and Savik just like...don't bring me into this, lol.
This scene still gives me joy, almost 40 years later.
40 years? Omg!
I agree and Thanks. Now I feel old
Spock's like "finally, I get to scare the hell out of Jim for once, like he always scares the hell out of the rest of the crew". His decision definitely had an emotional basis to it, even if he could give a logical reason for making it.
As a captain who has pulled such stunts before, throwing a greenhorn the reins in a training situation is great experience. She’s being overseen by a superior officer. In addition he can put her in a perceived pressure situation in front of the admiral without actually having any real consequences for her screwing things up ->good command experience, and a good Captain should want his or her staff to be able to function well under pressure situation in their absence. He lets Sulu plot the course himself too which kind of flys under the radar, not that Sulu is under pressure or a greenhorn, but it highlights how un impactful the training flight is and how the command isn’t there to watch a certain course being plotted, command is there to watch how the operation is performed and how the staff react.
@@drewski5730 I know he had a logical reason for letting her have the conn as they left dock. Enterprise at this point is a training ship. She was in command training. Logical to train her on the training ship.
That's not entirely why Spock did it though. His eyebrow raise wasn't just realizing "hey, I should let the trainee do this so she learns". The glance towards Kirk and Bones before he gave her the order to take them out gave his true... "feelings"... away. He let her do it at least partly to mess with Jim. He even gave the slightest, and I do mean barely noticeable tiniest muscle twitch of a smirk while glancing at Kirk.
@@brch2 EXACTLY. Seems like Spock was doin' everything he could and then some to *NOT* go full emotional and cheese like the Joker when he told Saavik to "take her out".
this scene is proof that spock has a sense of humor, albeit a very subtle one.
Sulu even mentioned it to Tuvok in the Voyager Episode "Flashback"
A sense of humor as well as a desire to challenge and develop his protege.
I like to think he does it as a confidence-booster for Saavik, too. We see her performance in the simulator and that would rattle anyone.
Vulcans have intense and very powerful emotions. They use logic as the basis of mental disipline to not act on their emotions / feelings.
Actually in this scene Spock was doing his job as a teacher,of course at Kirk's expense.
"Would you like a tranquilizer?'
That very short scene was so perfect and funny.
I can see it in Kirk's face as he silently chants to himself: Don't break the ship....don't break the ship...don't break the ship. She's my baby!
Most stupid reaction ever - Sulu's the one driving - he's not going to crash it if she gives the wrong commands.
No1sonuk Enterprise is still Kirks baby. He has all the faith in the world when it comes to Sulu. Not much anyone else in 'his' chair, though. Aside from Spock.
No1sonuk You are totally right of course but thematically it is a nice touch
Given how Kirk micromanages Sulu in TOS, maybe he thinks Sulu _will_ crash the ship if she gives the wrong commands.
(If you want an example of said micromanaging, see 'Arena' where despite being under fire planet-side, Kirk insists on personally running the simultaneous space battle by communicator, giving Sulu such insightful commands as 'fire phasers'.)
Jon Harper i can see it in mr scotts face too dont break me ship captain she's my baby
Never gets old. Saw this in the theater when i was a LOT younger. It's been here on You tube for 13 yrs... still, I'll watch it. Leaving dry dock. It was such a treat to see our beloved Enterprise as she should be, could be, the way I always imagined her... It was like watching a queen who always had to wear work clothes and costume jewelry, her entire life, suddenly walk through the door wearing silk, diamonds and a handsome crown. Science fiction at its best.
Ah yes, NCC 1701, no bloody A, B, C or D
Jon Ledbetter or E for that matter!
Or Jonny Archer's NX-01!
or Captain Shons F!
Soon to be blown up
Did you like seeing the Enterprise NCC-1701 being refitted?
R.I.P. Kristi Alley, you will be missed.
If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon...
I love Scotty's smile when Kirk does the "dust check". He knows that Kirk doesn't want to do the inspection and that he isn't going to find anything (especially dust), but Kirk had to make like it's a serious business. If it had been any other admiral, Scotty wouldn't have smiled, because he wouldn't know the person as well as he knows Kirk.
Amen to that...I love that part as well. :)
A proper Star Trek movie, unlike the reboots. RIP Kirstie Alley as Lt. Saavik.
Such an amazing moment as the Enterprise's running lights are coming on, and her engines come to life. Hard to believe it was over 40 years ago I was watching this moment in a theater in awe of the massive ship moving out of dock. Still gives me chills. Wish they would show old movies like this in theaters.
Independent theatres usually show classics. I saw blade runner that way and that movie is older than i am. I saw the movie a million times but in the a theatre was a new experience for me
RIP James Horner. You were what added the majestic feel to this movie. Still can't believe you're gone. Sigh.
Everyone dies. However his musical legacy will live on forever.
You could call this scene "Spock plays a cruel practical joke on Kirk" and it still works. Still holds up as a movie 37 years later.
@trha2222 Presumably it's more involved than that... we don't see much once the ship starts moving.
In the extended version of Star Trek II,Admiral Kirk is having a chat with 1 of the engineer trainees,who was being very bold. That trainee was Scotty's nephew.
Nice to see a starship at impulse power moving like a capital ship instead of a fighter jet
I did like how Spock had faith in Saavik enough to have her command flight. Makes his anger at Valeris much more heart breaking.
Especially considering Valeris was originally intended to be Saavik. That betrayal would have punched even harder then.
Saavik betrayal would have been heartbreaking
@@chrispeplinski7306 What happened to Saavik? I can't remember.
@@BB-mv9wl She stayed behind on Vulcan at the start of Star Trek IV.
This is the harbinger of doom... it is a final look at the grandeur of the NCC-1701 - the last time we will see her whole - her voyage nearing its end. After this she is a battle scarred "wreck" - her majesty marred by battle with Reliant - and her inevitable demise soon to follow. I do love the theft in Star Trek III - it too is a great scene - even with the ridiculous way in which Excelsior is disabled and the campy "backfire" noises. The ship was always an additional character on the show - no credits - just badassdom.
ColSandersLives Her credit was always shown during the scenes outside the ship so no credit in either the opening or closing credits is needed.
The backfire noises was a bit much but Scotty being the engineer he was pulling out just the right chips so the excelsior couldn't get warp speed is believable. He didn't like some of the changes on the excelsior.
I'm pretty sure the "backfire" noises were programmed into the ship by Scotty...just to add insult to injury.
I've always felt the same. ENTERPRISE herself was the 8th of the main ToS characters.
As Gene Roddenberry said..."The star of Star Trek is the Enterprise". The crew could be replaced but not the ship.
You know the music works when just leaving spacedock feels exhilarating.
Captain Spock: "Mr. Sulu, you may. . .indulge yourself."
Sulu: "Aye, sir." _smiles, thinking,_ "Setting course for Risa, maximum warp!"
Not sure if I would tell George to 'indulge himself'!
XD
I wonder how many people haven't appreciated just how rare of an opportunity Sulu was given. How often does a Helmsman, on *any* ship, have such a chance when the vast majority of the time all they can do is take the ship where they are *ordered* to take it? Being given a free hand on the reigns of the horse (so to speak) is not "normal' or "common" by any stretch.
@@MidnightDStroyer I don't think such a thing exists at all. Even the captains of our navies go where the generals back at HQ tell them to go. So, you're definitely right.
I just realised, shouldn't the navigator (on Sulus right) set the course, not Sulu himself?
Star Trek II still my all time favorite Star Trek movie. I remember waiting in a line that wrapped around the theater twice to watch it as a kid. This scene with the awesome score, with the crew making all the quiet preparations like a true professional StarFleet crew - simply awesome. They need to bring back subtle details like that in modern sci-fi.
My dad always loved how Kirk said "later" at 0:42. A good way to have fun with the ship he loves.
Saavik (Kirstie Ally) ... arguably the prettiest Vulcan in Federation history. Also consider T'pol (Jolene Blalock).
I don't think Cpt. Esteban called Saavik Mr..I don't recall Archer calling T'Pol or Hoshi Mr. either. When did Kirk call Uhura Mr.? .
let's not forget T'Pring 🙂
I agree regarding T’pol since the first episode ☺️
@Dickum N Lickum the V: Emperor Of UA-cam. Romulans are the same species as Vulcans they are only culturally different by about 2000 years.
Don't forget Kim Cattrall in "Star Trek VI".
I will never ever forget the first time I saw this movie and this part. I was in Junior High(Middle) school in 1982. This sequence went through my head almost every hour of every day. I remember shaking in my seat while watching this movie. It still stands as the most exciting movie I had ever seen in my childhood. I'm a fan for life. Even at the age of 43. :)
And to the day I die, I will say and believe that Spock had Saavik command the exit for no other reason than to mess with Kirk.
Such action would not be logical.
But there are limits to all things.
Oh you can bet on that. The way he looked at Kirk before turning over command. But I really don’t understand what the big deal was/ she just said do it. It was Sulu who did all the work.
The command of one quarter impulse power was key here. It was apparently something Kirk always did to irritate Starfleet because regulations required thrusters only. Spock probably worked it out with Saavik earlier just to give him a taste of his own medicine. Kirk would then later return the favor in Star Trek 6.
@@lightharbormusic I’m glad someone else caught that. Kirk loved to mess with the controllers. But the fact that Savak called for impulse is interesting. She is so by the book. I wonder if it wasn’t an oversights by the writers?
@@pauldavis9387 It's a question of legal responsibility to the ship. If the Helmsman (Sulu in this case) dinged the ship, he'd be in trouble, but whoever was at the Conn (Saavik) would be legally liable as the commanding officer. It true in real life navies and presumably true for Starfleet. If she had smashed another ship or the inside of spacedock basically drag-racing the equivalent of a nuclear-powered carrier, she could be cashiered, or posted to a subspace relay platform at the ass-end of nowhere for the rest of her very long life.
Kirk got away with a "cowboy" command style because he always made it work somehow in the end, or he had people like Pike to cover for him early on.
The TOS have a wonderful charm about them. They also have some of the best themes played to simply the USS Enterprise leaving spacedock, giving the sense that the Enterprise leaving spacedock is a ceremonious event which desires your awe. I feel like the music is responsible 75% of this 'effect' Also, lol when McCoy asks if Kirk would like tranquilizer.
He should have given him a copy of the first ST film that came out. Cure for insomnia, no doubt!
You read my mind exactly on both points, bravo
Tos was and always will be my favorite what a journey it has been
When will Hollywood figure out that they don't need a bunch of random loud explosions and CGI visual overload every 30 seconds to make something epic?
James Horner gone too soon RIP
Best part of this scene is Kirk nearly having a panic attack when Saavik takes the chair. "want a tranquilizer?" asks McCoy, followed by some brilliant facial ticks by Shatner, ROFL.
The good Doctor certainly knows his "patient," doesn't he? Such a high level of adrenaline & endorphins that must be surging through Kirk's bloodstream right then...
Love how nervous Kirk looks
JAMES HORNER RIP - This scene would have been a total TMP recycle if not for Horner's AMAZING score. Well, and the awesome uniforms too. I love the red wraparound-tunics in these movies.
Koldeman I disagree, you are forgetting the first time usage of 3D rendering ever for a movie production which was used during the Genesis scenes.
They did have cool uniforms in this one.
You ARE SO RIGHT!
I feel like the more standardized uniforms added a layer of military realism that I really liked
Tough for me to choose my favorite between these uniforms and the collared TNG uniforms from the later seasons.
It's easy to forget these days just how hot Kirstie Alley was back in the day. Plus, if they had listened to her character, this would have been a short movie and Khan would have had a bad time lol.
It's 50/50 - a film about Intelligence vs Wisdom, Saavik was right in her knowledge of regulations about raising shields when approaching the Reliant, but then later in the film its Kirk's experience as a commander that bests Khan
Khan and Saavik are in the same boat when Spock says "He's intelligent, but not experienced" - to me that's the whole point of the film anyway
For those that were wondering why Kirk was suddenly shaky when Saavik piloted the Enterprise out of the dock. This was a connecting parallel to the hazards of ocean going naval and merchant ships leaving a port or dry dock. In many ports around the world there are often tight clearances, sharp turns to make, and other vessels nearby so the chances of collisions are greater in a port or dock than out in open sea. Some of you have likely seen the UA-cam videos of ships, within a port or harbor, accidentally ramming docks, tugboats, other ships, or causing other small vessels to capsize as they attempt to leave or come in to dock. Here, even though all Saavik is doing is having Sulu move forward, notice that this space dock has little room on either side of the Enterprise.
+ACLTony Many ports actually send out personnel (harbor pilots) that take command of the ship just for this reason. They are paid very well. Great comment.
+ColSandersLives Thanks! I noticed some of the comments that indicated that some didn't understand why Kirk suddenly got a bit nervous. Big Ship + Narrow Dock + Rookie Pilot = STRESS!, lol.
Yet all that was required was "Aft thrusters, one quarter impulse power". Not a whole lot to get worried over.
@@MrAlumni72
You should read the novel Enterprise. And see just what happened the first time Sulu took the Enterprise out of space dock
I always thought it was Spock getting in some good natured trolling on his best friend.
Enterprise is not just a mere starship. She is a caring mother.
"We call our ships 'she' because they carry life", a tough old CPO of my acquaintance.
Personally I just love how melodic Kirstie Alley's voice is. Her responses and orders are almost like a voice turned into music.
Spock: "Now Mr.Saavik, get us in again ....."
Kirk: "Don't push it Captain"
...nope, that's the first time we see Kirk FAINT!!! LMAO
Definitely the best of all the Star Trek movies. It had it all.
I miss the days of studio scale models… what a beauty that ship is… the detail is amazing ..
This scene shows the togetherness of the bridge crew and the ship as well as she leads them out for the next big adventure into space.
I first seen this movie back in 1982 . To this day, The wrath of Khan is still the best ST movie.
Love the preflight checks in the background. So awesome and adds realism!
It's unbelievable. The movie is 40 yeears old, but the enterprise still locks good. It does not look old or something. What a great ship.
it does not look old or something 🤔
Such an inspirational franchise. Much thanks to those who worked on Star Trek and to the fans that kept TOS from being cancelled.
The score for this scene is one of my favorites in all of Trek, it just gets me every time! :D
The Wrath of Khan score is the most awesome!
One of THE best movie scores ever made, even decades later, and very much my favorite Star Trek movie even since I was a kid
we will never know what kind of Captain Saavik would have made. R.I.P. to a great and wonderful lady.
This whole scene is essentially Spock & Bones teasing Kirk.
The score is so goddamn good. I like Star Trek best when it plays up the nautical theme, the naval uniforms and the sailing music.
The attention to detail in this sequence is amazing. The dock working waving as the ship pulls out....the background chatter of the pre-launch checklist. The new ST movies could learn a little from this....
I really enjoyed the brief moments we see Spock in the chair it really seems like he's more confident & logically giving orders to Sulu without having to give up the seat to Kirk. This is his ship now.
I never tire of watching this, the ship, the music and how the acting reflects, friendship, knowledge and passing to a younger generation.
I love how she still looks at Kirk....almost as if asking HIS permission, before she takes the Captain's Chair to pilot the ship out of space dock.
39 years later I watched this film and loved it
Wrath of Khan had the Best Starfleet Uniforms
and it continued for the next 4
At times in this sequence you can see that Kirk is actually quite pleased with the Cadets. The way Saavik handled the big chair, actually brought a bit of smile to the Admiral's face. Though, I know that part of him was wishing he was sitting in the chair.
I will always- the way kirk took his napkin and sampled how clean the console was, and scotty's smile of satisfaction was always- humorous. People don't generally think along these lines.
After all these years, it still gives me goosebumps.
Spoc was such a class act! All these movies give me the fuzzies.
You need to see a doctor
"Would you like a tranquilizer?"
+John Westcott no shakes head
"No"
This scene gives me chills. Outstanding.
The leaving sequence is the same one used the motion picture!
***** Did you just say this music is *better* than Jerry Goldsmith's?!?!
hatchbx He did, Jerry Goldsmith's score in the motion picture was amazing, I find some of James Horners work great but he does recycle is work far to often
Marvellous though this new Enterprise departure from Space Dock is, the real departure of old Ark Royal from Plymouth gets my vote for first place. ua-cam.com/video/GAgV57KW1_0/v-deo.html
I never get tired of seeing the Enterprise.
2:09; "Would you like a tranquiliser?" So much information on the concerns and feelings of 2 men for the immediate future wrapped up in one short sentence.
the music is AMAZING (goosebumps)
"Would you like the tranquilliser?"xD
Admiral, what about the rest of the inspection?
silently, "LATER"
bahah
+JediNg135 Yep, Kirk wanted to skip the inspection and see his former ship get into action, even if it's just a trip around the solar system. Spock was a cool captain. The writers should have had shown him in command of his own ship at the end of Star Trek VI or at the beginning of Star Trek Generations. What could have been.
Spock said in Movie II, that although he is a good educator and commander, he don't feel like he is able to be a good captain, as he couldn't attach emotionally with his crew. That's one of the reasons, why the Vulcan commanded ships are run 100% by Vulcans, they understand this, but humans wouldn't.
And well, he already was working on his new career as a diplomat in and after movie 5, because he has decided to retire from Star Fleet together with the rest of the crew, although he would be only 67 years old then (just to compare: T'Pol of Star Trek was OLDER when she became second in Command in Enterprise, 66 is not a huge age for a species that can reach 250 years of age.) He didn't plan to command after the happenings of the trilogy.
(What's interesting of Star Trek is, that ST is in a way the history of Spock (or better said told by Spock), he is the only character who has been from the first pilot until 2389 in duty (as he was after Nemesis the embassador on Romulus again) and even in the newest movie. The only series where no Spock was living was Enterprise :D
Acme Spock was the captain of the Enterprise he was just training a new crew for his ship.
McCoy actually asks if he wants Saavik tranquilized if you listen closely lol bust still th elook son both McCoy and Kirks face when Spock lets Saavik take the ship out is a corker, ha ha, leeting these young cadets be in charge of the ship he has commanded for so many years
NCC - The art director Matt Jefferies thought of it. It's based on 20th century aircraft registration code. (N used to mean registered to the USA, C stands for civil aircraft. Also because NC was for US crafts and CC CC was for Soviet Crafts, they combined the two.) Also apparently lot of star trek novels and documents say that NCC stands for "Naval Construction Contract".
1701 - 17 stands for the 17th cruiser design and 01 is the serial number.
I LOVE when Spocks eyebrow goes up he is going to do something. LOL The look of HORROR on Kirks face is priceless! Star Trek 2 will always be the best of the Trek movies and a top five greatest sci fi movies of all time.
Who says Vulcans have no sense of humor? Spock played a great joke on Admiral Kirk.
Aftr all he is half human
I'm showing this on the next KickOff meeting for one of my Projects comprised of junior staff & Interns.
I'm never tired of seeing this scene. I remember seeing the movie in 80s when I was in high school.
This film is in my top 3 sci films of all time. The ending is the only time in a film i saw a tear in my dads eyes. Spocks funeral is a masterpiece
Tell your dad he wasn't alone there.. I think the entire cinema shed a tear, thinking Spock was finished.
A really excellent scene that breathes life into familiar visuals, especially the overwhelming excitement of Captain Kirk and the deadpan offer of a tranquilizer by Dr. McKoy.
"Mr Sulu, you may indulge yourself"
I don't think the bridge is the place for that sort of thing Spock.
Near the end of this scene is when the woman seated ahead of me in the theatre leaned over to her husband and said "This is really good." She also was of course in tears when Spock died. The theatre (Shady Oak in Clayton, Missouri) was PACKED. Everyone loved it.
Never understood why Kirk was freaked. Savik just sat there. Sulu was driving.
+jmtnvalley Freaked no. More like anxious. The enterprise is his baby. I'd imagine he doesn't trust anybody with it. Even if its just commanding the ship out of spacedock
Exactly. He's not going to crash it if she gives the wrong commands.
Kirk and Spock sit in the chair too and Sulu is still "driving."
So why don't they just make Sulu the captain?
@@deltaray3 Because it´s a SHIP with the common specific SHIP-Chain-of-command: Captain gives the orders to the First Officer, who then passes the orders to the (bridge)Crew accordingly and in this case the order was pointed to the HELMSMAN, which is Mr Sulu. That is how it has been done for centuries in REAL life and that´s how it´s done (correctly) in Star Trek. Helmsman is NOT a captain despite he is the supposedly "driving". Helmsman MAY become an "acting" captain only by a given order directly from the Highest Rank Officer on the ship, or in case ALL the other Officers of Higher Rank than the Helmsman himself are DEAD or INCAPABLE of performing their duty.
Seeing this ship always makes me almost cry in awe.
"Mister" Saavik manages to pull out of the garage without hitting anything.
Mister is the correct naval term for a midshipman. generally, in the forces, you address the rank and not the person and the ranks are genderless. most senior female officers are referred to as "Sir". there are some that insist on being called "Ma'am" or something like that but very rarely especially in the British forces as the term "Ma'am" is used by the Queen (Ma'am rhyming with jam and NOT harm).
2:10 Kirk just shaked his head made me laugh 😂 I seen this part when I was a kid I did that before but when I was older now I saw when he smiled since along time ago 😂😂😂
I love this version of the Enterprise more that the other versions.
The takeaway from this scene is Spock has a sense of humour...he knows it is stressing out Kirk and McCoy Savik taking out the Enterprise (Sulu is at the helm so it is an odd concern) but he can hide behind his Vulcan logic for the shits n giggles! Love this scene!
2:37 Man, I *LOVE* this score! It's so majestic, perfectly befitting seeing the Enterprise leaving spacedock!
So grateful to James Horner for the soundtrack that set the noble tone for the trilogy. A thank you as well to Stephen Barton Frederik Wiesmann for the Picard Season 3 soundtrack, an homage to Horner, and incorporating Alexander Courage, Jerry Goldsmith & Horner's styles into the music.
Star Trek then: They had to out think a genetically superior human hell bent on revenge. Star Trek Now: They beat the aliens by playing "Sabotage" by the Beastie Boys
I'm so glad I quit watching the trash movies by JJ Abrahams.
Star Trek Beyond was phenomenal and having Captain Kirk save the day with the Beastie Boys was a super fun spin on the classic Star Trek trope of having to find the right signal frequency to talk to the aliens.
They still had to come up with that totally off the wall idea. The JJ movies are cheap entertainment for sure, but they’re still good movies. They’re just in a different category.
@@Grayqboufan into darkness is poop. Literally nothing makes any sense. What’s white khans plan? It involves a lot of assumptions
0:38
McCoy: Admiral, what about the rest of the inspection?
Kirk (mouthing): Later.
(LOL)
Bones just sensing Kirk's blood pressure rising "Would you like a tranquilizer?" Ahh, this movie still holds up fantastically.
I always loved the little four-person conversation between Sulu, Saavik, Kirk, and Spock.
Bones: "Would you like a tranquilizer?" lol
Spock: Mr Sulu. You may indulge yourself.
Sulu Reaches down. Pulls out a flask of alcohol and some cigarettes.
I still love the smile Scotty gives Kirk during the inspection.
No dust on his consoles.
The majesty and glory of these departures from space dock are spectacular!,you can feel the power and pride of the crew!.
This whole movie was fantastic, but this scene alone is the one that still gives me goosebumps. Every time. That majestic swell, as we see the Enterprise, the pride of Starfleet, leaving Spacedock, ready to explore whatever adventure awaits next. I love the Enterprise D, I love the E, those are excellent designs...but the Constitutional Retrofit Enterprise A is MY Enterprise. This scene was entirely about her, and I loved it immensely. Always will, and I mean, not to mention that Star Trek II was an excellent movie all around. I think the new reboots are still struggling to find the footing that original Trek found in its second movie.
Seems silly today maybe, but my dad was Army and my brother Navy. I used to go out to Fort McPherson-where Leonard Nimoy served his Army service and where his daughter Julie, my sister and younger brother were also born. My sister used to live in Decatur where Deforest Kelley once lived. At North Ga.College, cadets at the back of the campus theatre yelled "airborne" when the Enterprise took off in the movies and those, including non-cadets, yelled "all the way!" For a memorial service to about 6-7 students there omelet week, a bagpipes played "Amazing Grace" on the drill field for them as Scotty played for Spock and a Scottish Rite Oriental Bagpiper also played it for my dad 2 years later. That's why I cried at the end of "ST:4"- for my dad (28 yrs.) and Capt. Spock too.
I love those old uniforms.
"Would you like a tranquilizer?" 🤣🤣🤣
If there's one thing that keeps me looking at these classic clips, it's the hopeful vision of the future that Star Trek provides. I need that reassurance quite often these days.
This is such a beautiful movie. From Kirk being scared of growing old to spocks death. To Kirk coming full circle at the end and feeling young again. A truly great movie. Equal to the enlure strikes back
The JJ Abrams movie had glitz and special effects. Pine and Quinto and Urban were good but there's just no comparison to the original thing. It's too bad that he strayed so far from the canon.
ACLTony It's an alternate timeline/universe, so straying too far from canon isn't that much of a deal.
Raymond Conlon The problem is they didn't even stay consistent or make sense to the in-universe rules established by the writers. This parallel universe was supposed to be created by the branching off of timelines due to Nero's arrival in the past....but even before those changes, there are marked differences between the stories background information. JJ Abrams basically just created an action movie with some basic words thrown in like "warp drive" and "phasers" and didn't care how it worked as long as there was flashy lights and lots of mindless action.
Which, if you take it merely on the context of being a popcorn action flick, it works well enough. But as Star Trek, in any form? No....it's not. And it never will be.
compmanio36 The divergent point isn't Nero's emergence from the black hole, it's as far back as Edith Keeler. Since the Enterprise will not have the same time-travel adventures vs seen in the original series/films, so to will future Starfleet crews have alternate adventures, which will affect the past.
Raymond Conlon Huh, I hadn't heard that.....is that info they put into the comic or whatever it was that was supposed to fill in the backstory? How could situations that far back be affected when Nero didn't arrive until centuries later?
compmanio36 Well, just consider: how can the time-travel adventures of the Kirk Enterprise, Picard Enterprise, Deep Space Nine, Voyager etc occur as we saw them in the Prime timeline following Nero's incursion's? Whether or not they were part of established history or not, they no longer happen now. Soon as that black hole formed in the past, the timeline - past and future - was completely different. Sort of like in the episode "Yesterday's Enterprise" to some extent.
It's a bit difficult to wrap your head around, but it explains why Starfleet is so different (USS Kelvin).
Spock is messing with Kirk and McCoy! lol
+drlee2 Yes, you're right! Neat thing about Spock is that he often affirms his Vulcan way of thinking and mannerisms, yet from time to time he will pull off a sneaky "fast one" on his friends without missing a Vulcan beat.
+drlee2 And who said Vulcans didn't have a sense of humor? *lol*
+drlee2 And Kirk gets him back when leaving Spacedock in Undiscovered Country
just Kirk.
The Vulcan humor is, as we have learned in Enterprise, a more subtle one, they like the unexspected, not 100% logical, as it's contradicts their typical experience. And nobody says, that Vulcans don't understand emotions (they have Pon Farr, never to forget), they just don't use them for decision making.
The Star Trek uniform is timeless in this era.
I love how you can see Spock thinking: "how much will this piss Jim and Bones off? I wonder if I can make 'em sweat? Bones will jump and scream and Jim will have a stroke."
Love Kirk's face at 1:54, he's clearly thinking "Awwww, but I wanna do it!"