DC did the same thing with Lois Lane in 1970. She uses Kryptonian technology to turn herself black for a day so she can cover a story in the black part of town where no one will talk to a white reporter. Hard to believe twenty years later Marvel would make the same damned cringeworthy mistake.
It's "cringe worthy" mistake. But anyways, none of that makes zero sense to me, with what you've said. You're the epitome of a SJW millennial. *Shivers*
@@fuzzydunlop7928 It's no one's fault but yours that you're out of touch enough to dismiss that term. Way to show which side you're on while fronting that you're somehow above it all. You're like some people I've met that say, "strawman arguments aren't a thing," despite the phenomenon it's describing being very objectively real. Not to mention how pointless your offense is, as he said "epitome of an SJW millennial," not "all Generation Y." I do think he's overreacting, but pretending there's no credence to his words period is laughable, as are you.
I still have the bitchin' tome in my collection. It's good for knockin' down all the bitches and punks that come stepping to me. I knock that five dollar-ass down and make change.
Today I went comic book shopping in a small comic book shop. And guess what I found! Issue #61 CRACK DOWN 😂 I got it for 2 € and the owner of the shop asked why I was laughing when picking it up, and I explained to him that I watched a video lately, concerning this comic. I'm very happy 🤣
@Mr Temporal he obviously is. So much so that I sort of sighed when it was brought up that he knew another bulletproof guy, because yeah Castle knows another bulletproof guy, but Rook wouldn't. Rook would just be some guy who maybe knows the neighborhood and recognizes Cage whom is sort of a cultural hero.
Wow. This is terrible. :p "Slickee Boy" was military slang for a local who swipes gear, especially in Vietnam. I think I heard somebody actually say it 1-2 times in the 90s.
Term was used in Korea as well. If it did not originate during that war then it might be WW2. The Marines, and Army had to liberate, and occupy, many Asian countries to root out the Japanese.
@@dirus3142 A lot of terms were popularized in Vietnam in terms of pop culture, but originate much earlier - the pejorative "gook" actually dates back to the decade-long occupation of Haiti (that all US history classes seem to forget even happened). Though slang can date back to a much earlier time the context and meaning can change and the word itself kept the same - the aforementioned insult originally meant someone of African descent but was re-used for Asians, particularly Asian civvies in Korea and Vietnam. "Slickee boy" to me sounds like a 1950's creation - my best guess is that it originated not from WW2 but from the aftermath of WWII, when in the late 1940's the US Marine Corps occupied Northern China during the Civil War in that country (another forgotten occupation) - it would be a quick jump from there to Korea and used more sardonically in Vietnam.
@@fuzzydunlop7928I was way off. I always thought gook was from the Korean War because the Korean word for "soup" is "guk" and traditionally in Korea you have soup or stew at every meal.
Love your videos! Just a minor quibble, in Punisher #44 he wasn't actually fighting against the kid burning the flag as a form of protest. Rather, Frank protected him from the corrupt and violent locals. The cover is more than a little misleading, though.
Yeah I notice CT sometimes makes minor and major mistakes. He clearly does LITERALLY read EVERY comic he references. He's pretty good but sometimes very misleading. I have that issue and read it - its a very ironic pro-free speech issue. It also has a "black" angle too interestingly
@@cruddddddddddddddd I don`t get it either. The Ennis run is widely known as the best take on the character since its creation. I really can`t figure it out. I was so hoping for Barracuda. Perhaps it is because Bernthal was playing a very young, inexperienced Punisher (he shouts a lot and even cries at some points !!!) and Ennis sets the character in his 50`s or even 60`s.
Well I personally feel that while problematic I feel like the writers had good intentions they just were not told no by the right people at the right time. However i feel that without reading that arc i may not joinwd BLM years later
I just love how becoming an avenging angel and then becoming a Frakenstein's monster are somehow not the goofiest things that have happened to the Punisher. Plus, Frankencastle was awesome.
My friend and I are big Punisher fans and whenever we hang out with someone who doesn't know his "lore" we like to make up a bunch of stuff but throw in a real one, like, he was Frankenstein, he was murdered by Wolverine's gay son cause the Green Goblin told him to, and then he crashed the moon into Mars using a pink cadillac.
No. She gave him hair (what was she doing? Giving him a perm while he was out??) And lips and a nose, too. Looks like she could have done a lot less to change his look. But, she was a junkie prostitute doctor, sooo. Dumb story!
I was literally about to post this but did a comment search first. Bar a back up story in Marvel Comics Presents, Cage had been off the table since PM & IF had ended 6 years before. They reintroduced him here with a new costume and set up ready for the new series. I didn't read much of the series but do remember the first issue had an acetate cover gimmick.
I have one question. Why the Punisher? I don’t understand why he goes through the most experimental stories, and if you’re making a character black, WHY PUNISHER? Wouldn’t that further the idea that blacks cause violence? What purpose did this serve?
Deadlines plays, lol keep reading the Afro-American "all blacks are united in Africa" propaganda lol, actually allot of conflicts in Africa are tribal in nature, ever heard of the Hutu and the Tutsi genocidal wars? Read about the queen Ranavalona of Madagascar and the reign of terror she had. There's allot of bloodshed in history actually, you are just happy with your blessed by ignorance state of mind.
"actually allot of conflicts in Africa are tribal in nature, ever heard of the Hutu and the Tutsi genocidal wars?" So, basically, exactly like us white people, in terms of ethnic groups living in close proximity that hate each other and try to kill each other, buuuut the difference is we don't bother distinguishing African history in the way that we distinguish European history.
I mean he was never African-American but he certainly was black. That’s the issue, if skin color mattered as much as hair color this would be just a fun disguise episode. The way someone could dye their hair and wear contacts while hiding. But even if hair and eye color are also controlled by similar genes as skin color we have made skin color to be bigger deal. So you can’t just change your skin color without thinking the cultural implications.
I’m posting this on a couple different videos covering this storyline. They could have explained Luke’s lack of shock at Frank transforming back by having him make some comment like, “I had a friend named Danny that I used to have all kinds of crazy adventures with, so I guess I’m not as easy to surprise as the average guy,” but no, they couldn’t even do that much.
Punisher telling Cage to shape up or he might come after him...after Punisher murders the cop, the white leader, and a bunch of other people. It's funny how Marvel heroes just ignore Punisher's past. "Look, I don't like your methods, Frank, but I guess it's okay that you've murdered 5,000 people without a trial or evidence."
They did this in Thunderbolts too, where Mach-1 got changed into a black guy and his girlfriend was concerned about it. So this happened more than once!
😂🤣😂wow A mere operation turns the Punisher Black? It would've made more sence if the devil summoning Rev turned him Black not a "jive junkie shade tree doctor" (in my Luke Cage voice)
Don't forget Captain Britain's sister Betsy getting "Asian Face" from the Mandarin during the Acts of Vengeance. Marvel did a lot of weird racism in the early 90's.
where does the panel you have in the background of sub mariner and cap fighting the Trapster and Sandman come from? I don't remember the Avengers ever fighting the Frightful Four before.
Tbh, Bernthal wouldn't even need that much make-up or anything. He already sits in that "passing" area where he can pass for whatever he wants if he so chooses - luckily he hasn't yet.
That was Belasco not Lucifer in The Jigsaw Puzzle. Belasco was tied to Kazar and Magik. If remember right he was an evil sorcerer in the distant past who gained demonic powers. Somehow he ended up ruling Limbo.
I bought these comics years ago, just thinking they were average Punisher comics because I love the character, then I read it, and many laughs were had.
Was this the plan all along? McAndrews & Forbes, who bought the company a few years earlier decided to take Marvel public in the summer of 1991. And then, the most ridiculous gimmicks came and DeFalco basically went along with them, (e.g. Punisher becoming African American and a near copy of Luke Cage, Tony Stark faking his death only to come back two issues later, Robo-Cap, Cap-Wolf, the Clone Saga, the gimmick covers, and not-to-mention, several issues being re-numbered to issue #1 for a cheap sales boost). Gotta love the 90s.
I was a teenager when these issues came out. I bought them from a local newsagents. At the time I was actually enjoying this run on the Punisher, but I admit I have not read any of these issues that time. I might have to dig them out. I remember another issue where Punisher was tied across the barrel of a super gun that was being built in Iraq. At the time the news was covering a story of Saddam Hussain attempting to built a super gun.
That's a trope I like to call 'insta-racists'. You do one thing out of line and "poof!", suddenly a whole crowd of racists materialize out of nowhere, usually in an attempt to make southerners, white people, or cops look dumb, over-the-top, and bigoted. It feels forced because it is. One of the most egregious examples I can think of is at the beginning of the video game Bioshock: Infinite. The very second you hesitate to throw something at a tied up black guy, hundreds of insta-hicks insta-zipline in out of nowhere like they've been hiding in trashcans waiting for you to slip up.
Unfortunately I have this comic myself but have never read it and with your review I don't think I need to now, its sounds bad within every avenue of comics possible. Definitely a turkey !!!
I disagree. Angel Punisher is much worse because it basically retconned Frank as tool to create demon army for Olivier. Black Punisher didn´t affect his backstory in the slightest.
In the spring of 1991, The Punisher was Marvel's best-selling and hottest book and Punisher: WJ was one of the company's top books. Marvel even decided to add a 3rd book in '92. But thanks to stupid gimmicks like this, the Punisher books tanked and by early 1995, all of them were canceled.
"Slicky boy" is slang from the US military in Korea, referring to looters. Veterans who served decades ago often have stories of unlikely things slicky boys stole, examples including a jeep piece by piece, and a whole building.
::"Luke Cage showing up in another city to help you-GOOD luck!":: At least until Cage finds out it's Punisher in LITERAL Blackface-then he's going to kick his ass back to New York City! 🤦♂ Punisher's guns won't help given Luke Cage is bulletproof....
The colourist's mind was blown. It's like when the artists on 'Portrait Artist of the Year' complain they've not considered bringing a colour palette that could cope with a celebrity-sitter-of-colour... Ffs xxx
If Mike Baron had written the entire story, it would have been his take on a non fiction book entitled Black Like Me. In it, the author under went skin color change surgery to spend time living as an African American to learn 1st hand about their life and experiences. But obviously the follow up team botched the job. For quality Mike Baron, I suggest his creator owned series Nexus and The Badger.
Why do white people pull that kind of insanity when they to try to 'understand' black people. It would be much more productive, not to mention way easier, to just listen to the lived experiences of black people. That way you don't have to go full blackface every time you want to examine an issue within the black community - you can just fucking ask a black person.
The Punisher has always had such confusing politics. Police brutality: bad, man with a skull on his chest brutalizing criminals: good. Makes sense to me.
I loved the Frankencastle arc. Remender told a different type of story with the Punisher then put him back for the next guy to play with. And Tony Moore's art was fantastic.
skunkape Franken-Castle was different I agree, but have you heard of the Cosmic Ghost Rider? It's a limited series w/Castle as GR in the future! I don't know what is in the water near Marvel to write stuff like that lol.
I think that the left panel @ 6:26 depicts, not very clearly, the departure of Luke Cage's previously-seen green car, as a "whoosh" behind a stationary police car, rather than the presence of Luke and the Punisher inside the police car. The green car seen in the following panel is Luke's car. It does look like the penciler or inker put lights on top of the car, which the colorist chose to ignore. That's all I got.
I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I don't think this is a case of black-face. It looks like a poorly executed homage to "Black Like Me". It's not good, but I don't think it's malicious.
If they would have simply made the character a black man the way they did with Nick Fury, I don't think it would change the character much. Despite misfires like this issue, Frank is one of the best superheros. There is a UA-cam video of someone shooting eith their hands tied behind their back with some success.
"...i got pulled over by racist cops on my first day being black..." HAHA oh my god thats hilarious. I love that sentence its perfect. Lmfao i woke up half my house cackling like a moron lol
I can understand that this may be a bit offensive to say the least, but Angel Punisher killing demons is just so stupid that it will never stop being his worst story.
Punisher: I"M THE DUDE, PLAYING THE DUDE PRETENDING TO BE ANOTHER DUDE!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
TROPIC THUNDER!!!!!!
Disguised**
God dammit you beat me too it!!! Well played sir
DC did the same thing with Lois Lane in 1970. She uses Kryptonian technology to turn herself black for a day so she can cover a story in the black part of town where no one will talk to a white reporter. Hard to believe twenty years later Marvel would make the same damned cringeworthy mistake.
This is real? .......i don't think I can even lol to that..
Yes, the story is called "I Am Curious (Black)" and you can probably find it online with a Google search.
Pre-Crisis Lois Lane is impulsive enough to make this believable.
It's "cringe worthy" mistake. But anyways, none of that makes zero sense to me, with what you've said. You're the epitome of a SJW millennial. *Shivers*
@@fuzzydunlop7928 It's no one's fault but yours that you're out of touch enough to dismiss that term. Way to show which side you're on while fronting that you're somehow above it all. You're like some people I've met that say, "strawman arguments aren't a thing," despite the phenomenon it's describing being very objectively real. Not to mention how pointless your offense is, as he said "epitome of an SJW millennial," not "all Generation Y." I do think he's overreacting, but pretending there's no credence to his words period is laughable, as are you.
"Did Scholastic publish a book of cool hip slang terms?"
They did when I was a kid. As well as a collection of 'put downs and disses'.
Yeah, with Garfield on the cover
I still have the bitchin' tome in my collection. It's good for knockin' down all the bitches and punks that come stepping to me. I knock that five dollar-ass down and make change.
Today I went comic book shopping in a small comic book shop. And guess what I found! Issue #61 CRACK DOWN 😂 I got it for 2 € and the owner of the shop asked why I was laughing when picking it up, and I explained to him that I watched a video lately, concerning this comic. I'm very happy 🤣
The good: seeing The Punisher and Luke Cage team-up, interesting dynamic.
The bad: EVERYTHING else XD
His slang reminds me of the old white lady in the movie airplane.
Cut me some slack, Jack.
"excuse me I speak jive "
Yeah but just from the jive-thru
Fun fact: The jive-speaking old lady was played by the same actress who played the mother on the show Leave It to Beaver.
@@karaoconnoraliasraidra That’s a meta joke Jfc. The whitest mom in TV history “jiving”
So because his skin turns black his voice and personality changes, too? Lol. Smh
HIMMBelljuvo Society seems to think so.
I had a black character in Saints Row IV and one in Mass Effect. They still sounded like Nolan North and Mark Meer, respectively.
@Mr Temporal he obviously is. So much so that I sort of sighed when it was brought up that he knew another bulletproof guy, because yeah Castle knows another bulletproof guy, but Rook wouldn't. Rook would just be some guy who maybe knows the neighborhood and recognizes Cage whom is sort of a cultural hero.
@Afonso Lucas oh shit I didn't realize society wrote The Punisher
And his hair. And his facial features. And... yeah. This was a hilarious video, if for that second story fall alone.
I love that Cage waited sixteen hours to ask Frank what his name was. And that Frank still couldn't come up with anything better than 'Frank Rook.' 😂
I think the best part is, a Rook is a black bird similar to a crow, so Frank might as well have just called himself Frank Black.
Wow. This is terrible. :p
"Slickee Boy" was military slang for a local who swipes gear, especially in Vietnam. I think I heard somebody actually say it 1-2 times in the 90s.
Huh, so that actually made sense. Castle was always portrayed as a military man through and through, so him using military slang totally fits.
Term was used in Korea as well. If it did not originate during that war then it might be WW2. The Marines, and Army had to liberate, and occupy, many Asian countries to root out the Japanese.
@@dirus3142 A lot of terms were popularized in Vietnam in terms of pop culture, but originate much earlier - the pejorative "gook" actually dates back to the decade-long occupation of Haiti (that all US history classes seem to forget even happened). Though slang can date back to a much earlier time the context and meaning can change and the word itself kept the same - the aforementioned insult originally meant someone of African descent but was re-used for Asians, particularly Asian civvies in Korea and Vietnam. "Slickee boy" to me sounds like a 1950's creation - my best guess is that it originated not from WW2 but from the aftermath of WWII, when in the late 1940's the US Marine Corps occupied Northern China during the Civil War in that country (another forgotten occupation) - it would be a quick jump from there to Korea and used more sardonically in Vietnam.
@@fuzzydunlop7928I was way off. I always thought gook was from the Korean War because the Korean word for "soup" is "guk" and traditionally in Korea you have soup or stew at every meal.
Love your videos! Just a minor quibble, in Punisher #44 he wasn't actually fighting against the kid burning the flag as a form of protest. Rather, Frank protected him from the corrupt and violent locals. The cover is more than a little misleading, though.
Yeah I notice CT sometimes makes minor and major mistakes. He clearly does LITERALLY read EVERY comic he references. He's pretty good but sometimes very misleading. I have that issue and read it - its a very ironic pro-free speech issue. It also has a "black" angle too interestingly
"You were never black. You looked black I'll give you that. You were never black." lol. The way he said it through. I can't help but to laugh.
tl; dr - Punisher went black, and then he went back
I'll get me coat, boyee...
Is this the plot for Punisher season 2?
We should be so lucky.
No. Its the MCU one.
Anything would’ve been better than what we got. Why they didn’t just straight adapt Ennis’ work is beyond me. Wasted opportunity
@@cruddddddddddddddd I don`t get it either. The Ennis run is widely known as the best take on the character since its creation. I really can`t figure it out. I was so hoping for Barracuda.
Perhaps it is because Bernthal was playing a very young, inexperienced Punisher (he shouts a lot and even cries at some points !!!) and Ennis sets the character in his 50`s or even 60`s.
Haha
I have this issue. It was my first Punisher comic lol
My first was issue 55, just a few months prior. I think I might still have it. But man, things took a weird turn right away with this story. haha
One of these issues was my first punisher comic too, such a weird place to get into the punisher
Well I personally feel that while problematic I feel like the writers had good intentions they just were not told no by the right people at the right time. However i feel that without reading that arc i may not joinwd BLM years later
Oh god I’m so sorry
I vaguely remember skimming it. I did a few Punys but tbh with major exceptions the art work never drew me in. Ghostrider looked WAY better
I just love how becoming an avenging angel and then becoming a Frakenstein's monster are somehow not the goofiest things that have happened to the Punisher. Plus, Frankencastle was awesome.
I thought I was imagining that Frank and Luke kept swapping skin tones, glad that’s not the case. It was driving me nuts until you mentioned it.
Heh, they used the same name switch on the TV show "Castle", where the titular novelist's blatantly self-insert main character was called Rook.
My friend and I are big Punisher fans and whenever we hang out with someone who doesn't know his "lore" we like to make up a bunch of stuff but throw in a real one, like, he was Frankenstein, he was murdered by Wolverine's gay son cause the Green Goblin told him to, and then he crashed the moon into Mars using a pink cadillac.
Man, you’re the best comic book video “thingee” review dude EVER
This really was an unacceptable idea for anything other than a dream sequence.
Haha!! I remember this craziness. You had me rolling with your commentary.
YOU TELL SOMEONE TO FIX YOUR FACE... THEY GO AHEAD AND DO YOUR WHOLE BODY COMPLETLY DIFFERENT AND CHANGE YOUR ACCENT! LOL
Luke is like the one sane player in an RPG campaign.
didn't luke get out of a car? wouldn't stealing the cop car mean leaving his car there?
kurumais How did I miss that? The cops should’ve been able to track Luke down in 2 seconds.
Prolly uber.
Tell me how can I jump off a two-story building and fall so gracefully.
So basically the the dr just gave him a really dark tan...
No. She gave him hair (what was she doing? Giving him a perm while he was out??) And lips and a nose, too. Looks like she could have done a lot less to change his look. But, she was a junkie prostitute doctor, sooo. Dumb story!
HEADS UP BOYEES
"It's Flavor Cage, Booooyyeeees!"
THAT'S RIGHT BLOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Calm down, Slickee Boy...
So when Punisher gives up his black identity for an Asian one he can proclaim "Rook out, it's time for a Chan-Ge".
this storyline was the editor idea created to advertise the upcoming 1992 Luke Cage ongoing series by Marc McLaurin.
I was literally about to post this but did a comment search first. Bar a back up story in Marvel Comics Presents, Cage had been off the table since PM & IF had ended 6 years before. They reintroduced him here with a new costume and set up ready for the new series. I didn't read much of the series but do remember the first issue had an acetate cover gimmick.
Hahaha. How is he going to "punish" Luke Cage? Hang out with him some more?
Subscribed !!!! Great story telling! Very interesting
I have one question.
Why the Punisher? I don’t understand why he goes through the most experimental stories, and if you’re making a character black, WHY PUNISHER? Wouldn’t that further the idea that blacks cause violence? What purpose did this serve?
Are you suggesting that blacks don't cause any violence?
AliensAreNoobs he just said why. He's a straight forward character and so writers try to do interesting things with him
Deadlines plays, lol keep reading the Afro-American "all blacks are united in Africa" propaganda lol,
actually allot of conflicts in Africa are tribal in nature, ever heard of the Hutu and the Tutsi genocidal wars?
Read about the queen Ranavalona of Madagascar and the reign of terror she had. There's allot of bloodshed in history actually, you are just happy with your blessed by ignorance state of mind.
"actually allot of conflicts in Africa are tribal in nature, ever heard of the Hutu and the Tutsi genocidal wars?"
So, basically, exactly like us white people, in terms of ethnic groups living in close proximity that hate each other and try to kill each other, buuuut the difference is we don't bother distinguishing African history in the way that we distinguish European history.
Well good luck finding ancient written records from multiple sources and trying to combine them covering Sub-Saharan areas.
I mean he was never African-American but he certainly was black. That’s the issue, if skin color mattered as much as hair color this would be just a fun disguise episode. The way someone could dye their hair and wear contacts while hiding. But even if hair and eye color are also controlled by similar genes as skin color we have made skin color to be bigger deal. So you can’t just change your skin color without thinking the cultural implications.
Since you've now covered this story, how about the time DC Comics did this same thing to Lois Lane?
To be fair to the writer, Luke Cage always talked in obnoxious slang--as far back as his creation, in the 70's.
She operated on his face and made him black...face...and his ENTIRE BODY???
It would possibly be possible if she gave him melanin injections, but those are very bad for your body and they don't take effect right away.
As a Black person, I gotta say... just, "no".
LMFAO!!!!
I’m posting this on a couple different videos covering this storyline.
They could have explained Luke’s lack of shock at Frank transforming back by having him make some comment like, “I had a friend named Danny that I used to have all kinds of crazy adventures with, so I guess I’m not as easy to surprise as the average guy,” but no, they couldn’t even do that much.
Punisher telling Cage to shape up or he might come after him...after Punisher murders the cop, the white leader, and a bunch of other people. It's funny how Marvel heroes just ignore Punisher's past. "Look, I don't like your methods, Frank, but I guess it's okay that you've murdered 5,000 people without a trial or evidence."
I always felt The Punisher was never respected. He’s always going through some weird changes
Cuz he's empty
I was specting more of a "hi! you cought me turning black. Speaking of turning black...."
ALSO 2017??? WTF UA-cam?????
I have Punisher comics including #1. Huge fan. I liked this story arc.
They did this in Thunderbolts too, where Mach-1 got changed into a black guy and his girlfriend was concerned about it. So this happened more than once!
😂🤣😂wow A mere operation turns the Punisher Black? It would've made more sence if the devil summoning Rev turned him Black not a "jive junkie shade tree doctor" (in my Luke Cage voice)
Don't forget Captain Britain's sister Betsy getting "Asian Face" from the Mandarin during the Acts of Vengeance. Marvel did a lot of weird racism in the early 90's.
That was body swap, different
where does the panel you have in the background of sub mariner and cap fighting the Trapster and Sandman come from? I don't remember the Avengers ever fighting the Frightful Four before.
So, is Jon Bernthal gonna be black... cuz it worked well with Tony Stark (played by Kirk Lazuruz).
Tbh, Bernthal wouldn't even need that much make-up or anything. He already sits in that "passing" area where he can pass for whatever he wants if he so chooses - luckily he hasn't yet.
Didn't know anything at all about the punisher story. ROFLMAO!!! Thanks for bringing this craziness to light haven't laughed this hard in ages.
That hooker Dr joke hit me like a tonne of bricks 😂
That was Belasco not Lucifer in The Jigsaw Puzzle. Belasco was tied to Kazar and Magik. If remember right he was an evil sorcerer in the distant past who gained demonic powers. Somehow he ended up ruling Limbo.
I bought these comics years ago, just thinking they were average Punisher comics because I love the character, then I read it, and many laughs were had.
Was this the plan all along? McAndrews & Forbes, who bought the company a few years earlier decided to take Marvel public in the summer of 1991. And then, the most ridiculous gimmicks came and DeFalco basically went along with them, (e.g. Punisher becoming African American and a near copy of Luke Cage, Tony Stark faking his death only to come back two issues later, Robo-Cap, Cap-Wolf, the Clone Saga, the gimmick covers, and not-to-mention, several issues being re-numbered to issue #1 for a cheap sales boost). Gotta love the 90s.
I still find this Hilarious.
Keep the Patreon specials for patrons only. You are that good :-)
When I heard the title I thought it was like a reboot or reimagining, but I was not prepared for what the comic actually was
I was a teenager when these issues came out. I bought them from a local newsagents. At the time I was actually enjoying this run on the Punisher, but I admit I have not read any of these issues that time. I might have to dig them out. I remember another issue where Punisher was tied across the barrel of a super gun that was being built in Iraq. At the time the news was covering a story of Saddam Hussain attempting to built a super gun.
"Blackface is a form of predominantly NON-WHITE people dressing up as black people "? Where did that definition come from?
Black face has evolved into hilarious humor in the modern day: Tropic Thunder, White Chicks, Norbit, etc.
This was hilarious.
Btw, in reference to black punisher killing the cop. White punisher murders people all the time.
That's a trope I like to call 'insta-racists'. You do one thing out of line and "poof!", suddenly a whole crowd of racists materialize out of nowhere, usually in an attempt to make southerners, white people, or cops look dumb, over-the-top, and bigoted. It feels forced because it is. One of the most egregious examples I can think of is at the beginning of the video game Bioshock: Infinite. The very second you hesitate to throw something at a tied up black guy, hundreds of insta-hicks insta-zipline in out of nowhere like they've been hiding in trashcans waiting for you to slip up.
Unfortunately I have this comic myself but have never read it and with your review I don't think I need to now, its sounds bad within every avenue of comics possible. Definitely a turkey !!!
I disagree. Angel Punisher is much worse because it basically retconned Frank as tool to create demon army for Olivier. Black Punisher didn´t affect his backstory in the slightest.
Pun-is-hed!
I have that run it was back in 91. I loved soul man.
How did i miss this ep .
In the spring of 1991, The Punisher was Marvel's best-selling and hottest book and Punisher: WJ was one of the company's top books. Marvel even decided to add a 3rd book in '92. But thanks to stupid gimmicks like this, the Punisher books tanked and by early 1995, all of them were canceled.
I know who punisher is...hes the dude playing the dude disguised as another dude...
The yellow shirt on the Punisher and black leather on Cage is throwing me off on who’s who. Does the colorist not know about color recognition?
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Given the year this was written, it just such a bizarre idea to go with.
Actually, Soul Man was a box office hit.
"Slicky boy" is slang from the US military in Korea, referring to looters. Veterans who served decades ago often have stories of unlikely things slicky boys stole, examples including a jeep piece by piece, and a whole building.
Jon Dunbar thanks google
Honestly amazing video.
::"Luke Cage showing up in another city to help you-GOOD luck!"::
At least until Cage finds out it's Punisher in LITERAL Blackface-then he's going to kick his ass back to New York City! 🤦♂
Punisher's guns won't help given Luke Cage is bulletproof....
Q. Who is the realistic pen and ink artist of the Punishers comics book covers.
Tim Bradstreet.
"Can you really survive a second story fall?"
Uhh yeah........
At 1:39 the license plate on the car says red rum
Hey bud, thanks for the interesting and "comical" share. :P Keep up the good work!
The colourist's mind was blown. It's like when the artists on 'Portrait Artist of the Year' complain they've not considered bringing a colour palette that could cope with a celebrity-sitter-of-colour... Ffs xxx
lmao you did it i keep commenting on stuff. oh man i loved this run not gonna lie i own these
im puerto rican and I hung out with some black friends they loved this shit
Wasn't the fall thing also done in The Bourne Identity?
If Mike Baron had written the entire story, it would have been his take on a non fiction book entitled Black Like Me. In it, the author under went skin color change surgery to spend time living as an African American to learn 1st hand about their life and experiences. But obviously the follow up team botched the job. For quality Mike Baron, I suggest his creator owned series Nexus and The Badger.
Why a black guy who's African? Why not Jamaican? I know some WHITE AFRICAN American's who were born there and moved here
Why do white people pull that kind of insanity when they to try to 'understand' black people. It would be much more productive, not to mention way easier, to just listen to the lived experiences of black people. That way you don't have to go full blackface every time you want to examine an issue within the black community - you can just fucking ask a black person.
Remember the time Iron Man painted himself black in Tropic Thunder? Lol
I remember when I read this as a kid, it blew my mind. I need to re-read this arc.
The Punisher has always had such confusing politics. Police brutality: bad, man with a skull on his chest brutalizing criminals: good. Makes sense to me.
I have those issues AND the Franken-Castle issues. WTH Marvel?!
I loved the Frankencastle arc. Remender told a different type of story with the Punisher then put him back for the next guy to play with. And Tony Moore's art was fantastic.
skunkape Franken-Castle was different I agree, but have you heard of the Cosmic Ghost Rider? It's a limited series w/Castle as GR in the future! I don't know what is in the water near Marvel to write stuff like that lol.
I think that the left panel @ 6:26 depicts, not very clearly, the departure of Luke Cage's previously-seen green car, as a "whoosh" behind a stationary police car, rather than the presence of Luke and the Punisher inside the police car. The green car seen in the following panel is Luke's car.
It does look like the penciler or inker put lights on top of the car, which the colorist chose to ignore.
That's all I got.
Everything leading up to it was great.
By homogenous, you mean SEGRIGATED. Its segregation via financial inequity.
I was a huge Punisher fan when I was bout 8 years old in 1991. But I'm still a fan dawg
Man tht hoodie is so damn good.
That joke at the beginning was pun-ishing.
I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I don't think this is a case of black-face. It looks like a poorly executed homage to "Black Like Me". It's not good, but I don't think it's malicious.
One of the worst ideas ever in comic books
Wha....? Wh...? When did *THIS* happened!?? WTH were Marvel thinking!!??
If they would have simply made the character a black man the way they did with Nick Fury, I don't think it would change the character much. Despite misfires like this issue, Frank is one of the best superheros.
There is a UA-cam video of someone shooting eith their hands tied behind their back with some success.
What's sad is this arc was my first exposure to Punisher back in the day.
"...i got pulled over by racist cops on my first day being black..." HAHA oh my god thats hilarious. I love that sentence its perfect. Lmfao i woke up half my house cackling like a moron lol
i never laughed so hard at the " F*@#ing know it all " pun.
I can understand that this may be a bit offensive to say the least, but Angel Punisher killing demons is just so stupid that it will never stop being his worst story.
I kinda liked it cuz he teamed up with powerman i hated that powerman got his head caved in with a heavy duty pipe wrench though