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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Young Earth creationist Kent Hovind explains to Nehemia about the errors of evolution, dinosaurs on Noah's Ark, and the formation of heavy elements in stars. Nehemia's most controversial guest to date, Hovind describes himself as a "lowly high school science teacher with a non-accredited degree from a Christian school who happens to believe [the Bible] is true and evolution is not only stupid it's dangerous."
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Truly enjoyed the conversation with Kent. Sorry for the inadvertent comment. I am not Jewish, but it struck me in the heart when it came out. I truly believe he did not mean it to be hurtful.
He didn't, he meant it to be funny poking at a stereotype just probably came out the wrong way & probably not appropriate in that moment.
I think Hovind joke of the stereotype was to debunk it as irony; if two groups share a stereotype then it’s not a stereotype. Hovind immediately obeyed retracted his comment when he saw it offended you- I’m surprised you went back to it and forced him to dwell in shame. Nothing wrong with referring to a stereotype when its being used as irony to debunk it.
It was unnecessary by Hovind, but also I feel like Gordon overreacted a little bit on that. It is how it is, let's move on.
Yes, It was a funny joke. Well said. When I think of gold I will think of you getting offended. God's people are blessed beyond measure. Everybody else is just jealous. I wish I was Jewish I would be proud. But I am European. Proud European not better than anyone else. You can't offend me about Race stuff, someone was calling me a cracker. I just laughed. Only one Race and It's the Human Race. We all came off the boat. Peace
@@danzelhill It is Kent Hovind's 'normal' All of his other ministries on UA-cam are just the same, he is very talented with his s sense of humour.
Did Dr Gordan overreact? Or is it that there is 'No' forgiveness?
Nehemia, Thanks for this great podcast. I felt really bad that you were so offended at the end. As I was thinking on this the Holy Spirit told me "He was offended long before that!" Then I realized that it really was not the last quip about gold - it was that Kent honored the word of God higher than you. That is why you were so uncomfortable with his literal interpretation of Genesis and here was a gentile having to tell you to honor the commandment with God's own version of six days of creation. And then you were offended at the gospel of Jesus as Kent so clearly presented it. I was very surprised at this as one of your best attributes is how you can "usually" converse so well with Christians and you don't seem to be bothered.
Nehemia, you have done a fantastic job honoring God's word about his name Yehovah among other subjects. Kent showed us how to honor God's word about Creation and Salvation. There should be no reason to be offended. But I now realize that you have a lot to learn.
Matthew 11:6 "And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me."
1 Corinthians 1:23 but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness,
It still was a great podcast and I am still a friend and supporter of you Nehemia! Just keep an open mind for truth!
Kent Hovind thank you so much! I think this is first time his podcasts, when Nehemia was learning new information every 10 min :))))
Wow. What a combination. Two men I respect incredibly. Love you both, God bless this event.
For anyone who makes it to the end, just remember, at the beginning of the show, Kent poked fun at CHRISTIANS!! Just keep that in mind ❤
You make a great point. Borrowing and not giving back. Kent was not being antisemetic!
@@delroyrobinson6835 Right! He wasn't, but I can appreciate how sensitive one could become about such a comment if they had been accosted by stereotypical slurs all their lives. I'm sure "black" people could add much more to the reasons not to mention such things, but this was obviously Kent saying "who wouldn't want to know how to get gold out of helium" without actually considering before speaking that it might offend Nehemia. It's certainly understandable, but I think Nehemia realized it wasn't a jab, but hot water spilled by accident on someone is still going to burn.
Nehemiah, as a Jew myself, I am fully aware of most of the Stereotypes and have been made fun of with that particular one on more occasions than I can remember (and I am sure that you know that this one is extremely mild by comparison because you have had to endure more than I); however, we as a society need to laugh at ourselves to show that YeHoVAH is bigger than someone's words. Historically, how racism got nerfed from it's Apex was the ability to let yourself be humbled with a joke from time to time that allowed people in 60s-90s come closer to one another and relate. When we have this inability to joke and to take even a racial joke, as we do in the modern era for the sake of offending, we distance ourselves from conversation and distance ourselves from each other. It showed in the fact that you couldn't even let him finish the thought after he apologized because of the offense. Now, am I saying that he did not have the responsibility to watch His Words and be the best version of himself that he could be? No, I am not. We have to be better though.
Also, realize, that Kent Hovind has been doing these debates in front of Schools, Synagogues and Churches since the late 80s. He has programmed zingers for everyone depending on his audience, and even though we live in a hyper sensitive society now where people don't even have to say something actually wrong to get banned, we as followers of YeHoVAH's Torah need to be the bigger individuals and not dwell on a slight. Proverbs 25 says 21 "If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat, and if he is thirsty, give him water to drink. 22For in so doing, you will heap burning coals on his head, and YeHoVAH will reward you."
I think you were right in expressing your pain and disagreement based on the majority of us who watch this (as well as the tiresomeness of that particular stereotype), but forgiveness, laughter, and instruction go a long way to build bridges vs. closing a conversation because of, in my opinion, an inappropriate moment in an otherwise great video.
Thank you for this comment. It didn't sit right with me, Nehemiah, that at the end you said you couldn't get over it. I have always loved & respected how you call out Michael when he says stuff that is offensive to others, but you don't dwell on it and say you can't get over it. That always spoke deep into my soul, about your character. I've never felt like you should apologize to someone, you've always exposed bad behavior and then risen above the fray. I hope you're able to forgive Ken, and tell him that you do. Whether you want to have discussions with him in the future or not, is no big deal, but the end of this video... I felt icky. I've always left your videos feeling like it was the best thing I've watched all day. I hope you're able to let go brother. Your example has always added to your ministry in such a positive way.
@AlaskanGrandma oh boy.. I'm reading comments and pausing the video as I make my way through.. maybe I should go make some popcorn 😂
He said it about himself first though. He said he would love to know how to make gold for himself first. I think Nehemia missed that. Then when Nehemiah called him out, Kent repeated that he would like to know as well. It's sad that Nehemia took it such a wrong way because it seemed like Kent was trying to build a bridge like, hey we may believe some different things but we all would love to know how to make gold.
@@salvadaXgraciaI just finally reached the end 🍿
@@AlaskanGrandma I am not a Jew and I do not get what your saying, but i did realize that Nehemia closed the interview early over a gold comment. What was the issue? I just heard Kent saying that you can't make gold out of the big bang... pls explain what the insult was so we non-jews can understand you.
Awesome interview.
The offence about gold was also not needed. I don't mind people joking about others traits. We are hypocrites if we are offended at such. Being offended at a comment like that means you judge the other person's motive.
Let's joke and stop being bloody offended.
Great content. Please do again.
Gotta agree... good grief Nehemiah that was rather soft. Ken is a jokester... To be offended over that. smh
"...judge the other person's motive..."
we are called to show good judgement not be judgmental.
Really Nehemiah? That little joke (and that's exactly what it was) got to you that bad? Very strange to see you get so offended by something like that, I've seen a lot worse and you not be phased. Maybe because you didn't know the guy on a personal level? Maybe because of what you discussed earlier in the video about "Jews taking over the world" and you believe that stuff about him? I don't agree with a lot of Kents beliefs, but he's not a racist person and this video ended kinda like it's insinuating that. Very uncomfortable feeling coming from someone that financially supports your ministry. Really weird.
I am sure all Jews are feeling the intimidation of the anti jewish rhetoric going on worldwide. But you are right, Kent's teachings discredit any idea of a superior or inferior race and I have found no deliberate meanness from him since watching for many, many years. It was a sad, off handed joke....we are all human beings who say and do things in ignorance many times. May we all learn from this educational discussion and from the sad end.
@@lindastorm7264 yeah that's a good point with the things going on in Israel. Thank you for your comment
My parents are Noahs day and I like 🥇 gold or real assets more than any fiat currency. What's the issue?
Thank you for hosting this discussion Nehemia. I am sorry that it ended on a sour note but hope the information in the general topic can be salvaged. I admire both of you gentlemen as truth seekers and have benefitted from both camps for many years. Shalom!
I found this because I've just discovered Nehemiah Gordon and have really been enjoying his open doors teaching. And I was so thrilled to see Kent Hovind as his guest as I would say I'm in the top fan club ha. I have many dvds and have learned so much from the God given wisdom of his teachings regarding creation/evolution. I always believed in God from age 6 (because I encountered God's presence at that age) and only at age 22 did I read the bible for the first time and was filled with the Holy Spirit at age 25. But at school I rejected the teaching of evolution because I knew God made me. So since discovering Kent Hovind and God bless him for his obedience: my confusion regarding dinosaurs and creation was answered.
Thanks Nehemiah for confirming Yehovah 🕊️ as the King James got it right
@@lisalaughton6029 wow!!! I forgot who that was!!! It was Nehemiah!!
Couldn't agree more. I've absorbed 100's of hours of both Nehemia and Kent. While it did end on a "sour note," I hope the discussion can continue.
I have deep respect for Nehemiah and Kent. Both of them are well-studied and deserving of the term experts. I appreciate their care in bringing forth what they have found and learned to the public so very much.
Recently, I have observed a slight variance in Nehemiahs demeanor lately and am concerned that perhaps due to tiredness or prescription that he may have his regular cheerfulness slightly suppressed. From the many years I have been learning from all his research and wisdom I care very much for him and his family and pray blessings for them.
I also pray that these two will remember this conversation with a positive feeling and acknowledge that Nehemiah was leading Kent to consider what might be information his audience might feel is revelant. Many things that Kent discussed Nehemiahs response was to say that his audience would not feel it was important enough to even think about. In all fairness Kent was trying to do what Nehemiah was asking... which was to bring up topics and details that Nehemiahs audience might feel is relevant.
I hope they both reflect on this discussion because it has contains much revelation that new audiences will benefit from.
@Summer-kn5pu
Yes Nehemia’s demeanor.
He is recently married without the chance of having any children.
He has recently experienced the terror attack and Gaza war and the societal responses.
He is feeling the reality of the government induced economic implosion.
He may have been predisposed to not trust the christian Hovind.
This was great! The end, Nehemiah was not necessary to finish it off like that. You didn't have to be offended for that. He was kidding with a pure heart. I am jewish and didn't get offended. He even said himself, too. You're stronger than that, man. I wish it would have continued.
I'm at 1:12:12⏯️
And enjoying this presentation... Sorry to hear that someone took a statement as a personal offense.
When I get there, I guess I will judge for myself.
I appreciate your level headed statement.
Translate the first chapter of Genesis. There was evening, there was morning the FIRST day. There was evening, there was morning, the SECOND day, etc. The sun and moon did not need ro exist to show evening and morning, light and darkness needed to exist. Which it did in the first day. Sun is not needed to grow plants, any one growing ... herbs ... in their basement knows that. If we cannot believe chapter one ... why believe any of it. I do not need to massage Scripture into science. Science needs to fit Scripture. Otherwise, your faith changes with the ever time science changes. Big bang? Easy...in the beginning let there be light. What is light, release of energy. What is a bang ... release of energy. Science substantiates Scripture far more than it refutes. Evolution is simply, they worshiped the creation rather than the Creator. Nothing new under the sun.
@@keithfrazer2256 YEAH. ROMANS 1
Nehemiah, you may or may not like kent. You will find it hard to refute him on many things... the main one is that Jesus is the Savoiur. One day, every knee shall bow!
Even Nehemiah... hopefully he excepts Yeshua.
Great interview!
Nehemia, I think you missed that he said the gold thing about himself first. He said he would love to know how to make gold for himself first. Then when you called him out for saying Jews would love to know too, Kent repeated that he would like to know as well. It's sad that you took it such a wrong way because it seemed like Kent was trying to build a bridge like, hey we may believe some different things, but we all would love to know how to make gold.
I hope you can see that and remain friends. I hope you also look into the evidence he has shown you. Perhaps the Tenach is even more literally true than you knew! Yehovah bless you.
I dunno. He said that he said it because it’s a stereotype and then apologized. It was a poorly placed joke.
there ain't nothing innocent about Kent's seeming anti-semitic remarks. He literally sells the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion on his site
Not sure the Kennt was being antisemitic... Nehemiah tried to make more out of it than was need. He miss spoke.... and he apologised!
Watched many of Kents You Tube shows since he got out of jail. He drops passive antisemtic stuff all the time. But he's a great preacher.
Nehemiah questioned Kent about whether Jesus (Yeshua) was fantasy multiple times, but Kent answered him, towards the end he (Kent) jokingly mentioned how he likes gold just like the Jews. Nehemiah gets upset by the joke that wasn’t that serious, everyone likes gold. ~Shalom
Wonderful Interview Nehemia, I am so sad this ended where it did. Unfortunately we can never know when someone will be hurt by something we say in jest or passing until it happens. We cannot put ourselves into the others life experiences or cultural understandings. I am sure both were 100% genuine honourable people neither desiring harm to the other but innocently both have . Many Jews use the very Joke about Gold themselves. Many non Jews also use it in a derogative manner but I don't feel this was the case here. I pray the two can come together again in friendship with greater interpersonal understanding.
@robynhocking
Nehemia himself has said on record, “I can make that joke. You can’t”.
Too me, that is funny, but an unwise stance to take in reality.
The natural consequence of teaching the story of evolution is ultimately atheism. It fulfills the religious requirements of what all atheists believe.
Evolution of elements must occur first, hydrogen atomic number one, can't increase to helium atomic number 2. So hydrogen caused the effect of helium 2 from nothing in hydrogen 1
Law of contradiction A is B, Illogical impossible contradiction
A hydrogen 1 caused the effect of
B helium 2
This is A is B, a false scientific hypothesis period.❤❤❤❤
A is B, law of contradiction
A law of abiogenesis caused the effect of
B law of biogenesis
A is B a false scientific hypothesis
A is B law of contradiction
A prokaryote with DNA readings never make a cell membrane caused the effect of
B a eukaryote with a cell membrane and DNA that reads never reproduce a prokaryote.
A is B, where is my crack pipe, I need a pipe dream A is B, false scientific hypothesis. Please?❤❤❤❤
Great episode hope to se Kent back for more discussion. It’s a true gift to be able to explain things in a simple way that is one thing our school system is missing today.
I'm a big fan of you, Nehemia. Your work on the Name as well as Torah/Prophet Pearls and the Open Door Series have been life changing for me, and I'm grateful to you for that. But this interview with Kent Hovind was a side of you that I'm not used to seeing. Your body language the entire time was as if Kent was spewing offensive lies and falsities, when in fact he had sources and logical arguments for EVERYTHING. You can agree to disagree, but this was not a good showing on your part. And the comment at the end, it was a joke, maybe insensitive, but a joke nonetheless. Have some thick skin, and move on. The only reason it was offensive was because you decided to get offended. I personally think you missed out on a TON of great arguments and insight from Kent because you took it personally and ended. I hope you'll have him on again, because he is a wealth of knowledge on this subject.
Amen.
This
I have to say, it was amusing to see Nehemia react to someone else talking way over his head for a change. 😆❤️
Hovind is totally right about carbon dating.
Yes - my late grandfather, a chemical conulting engineer, geologist and prof at CalTech - who consulted and headed up some satellite projects for NASA such as Skylab - told us kids and grandkids that carbon dating was very much untrustworthy. He also said we should not be trying to go to the moon and planets, but rather, responsibly managing the oceans on behalf of mankind.
What we see in God’s world matches what we see in his Word.
This is so amazing ❤️❤️❤️please do more interviews with Kent Hovind, it is absolutely the best sho far with the exception of the fathers name. Not sure about the ending but let’s please do it again
Next time Nehemia could share what He knows, not argue about what he doesn’t know.
Yeah, its not lookin’ good for a part 2
The timing of this episode was amazing for us Nehemia. It was a blessing from Yehovah because we had just discussed how we need to learn more about what happened to the dinosaurs during the flood for our grandson. Literally within minutes there was this episode! His world is dinosaurs and the evolutionists know this. We want to teach him now before he hears about it in school and struggles with understanding creation. Just want you to know this is an important topic and thank you for sharing it!
And sounds like miraculous timing to bless your grandson's faith in his personal Elohim &; >
My father spent 4 years in nazi concentration camps. I never heard a swear word come out of his mouth. In fourth grade I make a innocent rhyme " boy are you lucky f *cky" my teacher told me that is a bad word. I did not know. Perhaps Kent has never said what he said in a derogatory manner and in his mind did not see anything wrong otherwise he would have never said it. Thank you for treating us to all different approaches to life.
wow, this is should be a great meeting, give Mr Kent a Hebrew Gospel, if he doesn't have one yet... I love this man, and you to Nehemia, lol,
God's used him in a mighty way and revolutionized my walk with our Creator, just as profound as your's Hehemia.. but God crossed my path with Mr Hovind, many years ago..
God bless and much love
Where can I get a Hebrew gospel
@someplaceonearth7506
Amen. Me too. Both champions. They need to be fighting back to back, not Nehemia jumping in front of Kent’s fighting side.
@nust8235
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Kent hovend just needs to joke more politely, and not joke as if he were someone who he himself disagrees with.
It's like joking about murdering someone who you know, just to make fun of the murderer himself. It doesn't work.
I'm sure Kent didn't mean anything by it but we always need to die daily to ourselves and keep learning and growing.
I totally agree with you Judah!
I been listening to you Nehemiah for over 10 years and I don't think I have ever seen or heard you, or not heard you, so quiet.
And a 20" cow is called a mini moo...how did you guys miss that
Theres millions of Jews who know God's name, youre the only one I know who has dedicated his life & time to seeking, speaking & sharing God's truth--to the point you had to do it with a Christian named Keith. All because your kind wouldn't stand with you in doing so. You are the exact same as Kent, an outcast, who Abba is using to lead His children back to Him. The God Spirited were never apart of the power structure--religious, social, political, etc.--theyve always been for the people who have been misled by your Jews, my Christians, our school systems, and government. Kent is the same as you my brutha... you chose giving us God's name via truth, science, facts,, data & scripture. Kent chose giving us God's Creation via truth, science, facts,, data & scripture.
Nehemia, I really appreciate your art of asking and listening and inviting an explorative conversation and exchange off the beaten track and drum with all kinds of partners, not only challenging the audience to check out new terrain but even yourself to step out way beyond scholarly and tribal comfort zones.
The call obviously ended on an awkward note which, left lingering, can taint the recollection of the prevoius content, and which has already imprinted clearly on the comment section, but the beauty of recordings is that they enablebus not only to replicate witnessing the situation, but also to step back and revisit every bump and turn in the road to reflect as much as needed or desired to work stuff out.
Therefore: Thank you for leaving the video raw and unedited. I figure it a worthy decision of a historical scientist to handle, share and the document of this interaction in as lossless a format as possible so whoever cares can zoom in ad libitum on all aspects of the conversation, to figure out the claims, the reasoning and the clues of personal nuances etc... but sans preconceived editorial framing bias. Well done!
Shalom. And great context here.
Whats so offensive about the "jews liking gold/money??" Im sure not only the jews like money.
Lighten up people!
Agreed... Nehemiah needs to lighten up. My goodness, Kent is a Christian and Nehemiah is Jewish... I can guarantee you both men would love to have money/gold.... Kent said the Jew would like (gold) this too! I'm Irish, and I want some of that gold as well!!! Other than that, GREAT interaction.
The title to this video is incorrect. This was not Creation vs. Evolution. It was not a debate, and not much of a conversation. It was host asking guest questions and when host didn't like answer, but obviously spent zero time preparing, host asked audience to do the debating for him. Then to puss out at the end over a friendly joke. Host pretends to be offended so he could escape this embarrassing interview.
Hovind and Nehemia are both living champions. Like David’s mighty men.
Nehemia needs to share with Kent about what is a Pharisee. Kent’s doing his job, Nehemia do your job.
“The jews who believe in 6k in the synagogue, and believe science the rest of the week...” seriously Nehemia!? You have answered your own question why they aren’t doing what Kent is doing. You must LIVE your faith. That means OUTSIDE the synagogue!
Kent is a good guy Nehemiah! He’s doing so much for the Torah and the New Testament by defending them…
This is one of the best interviews I have ever heard on any of your shows, Dr. Gordan. I did not want it to stop; I wanted to hear more.
But you spoilt it, Nehemiah; you made it personal. You are better than that. I liked Kent Hovind's punt (joke); it broke down the walls of such heavy information. Kent Hovind is such a Blessing, and he is hearing from YeHoVaH about the mission he has been called to.
But the devil knows all of our weaknesses, and he is always looking for that 'gap', that 'window' to enter our personal lives. You 'probably' should apologise publicly, Nehemia; that was not cool at all. I did not find Kent Hovind's comments offensive at all, and I am a mixed breed, including having Hebrew roots.
Your hyper-sensitivity has now spoiled for me (and I'd have to say others as well), to the point I thought this was very selfish of you. I get that it is your show, but we are your audience, and we, too, will not always agree with you, Sir.
I want to hear more, please from Kent Hovind.
@jeffreyfrye1811 has addressed this the best. And I want to reiterate his words;
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Nehemiah, as a Jew myself, I am fully aware of most of the Stereotypes and have been made fun of with that particular one on more occasions than I can remember (and I am sure that you know that this one is extremely mild by comparison because you have had to endure more than I); however, we as a society need to laugh at ourselves to show that YeHoVAH is bigger than someone's words. Historically, how racism got nerfed from its Apex was the ability to let yourself be humbled with a joke from time to time that allowed people in the 60s-90s to come closer to one another and relate. When we have this inability to joke and to take even a racial joke, as we do in the modern era for the sake of offending, we distance ourselves from the conversation and distance ourselves from each other. It showed in the fact that you couldn't even let him finish the thought after he apologized because of the offense. Now, am I saying that he did not have the responsibility to watch His Words and be the best version of himself that he could be? No, I am not. We have to be better, though. Also, realize that Kent Hovind has been doing these debates in front of Schools, Synagogues and Churches since the late 80s. He has programmed zingers for everyone depending on his audience, and even though we live in a hyper-sensitive society now where people don't even have to say something actually wrong to get banned, we as followers of YeHoVAH's Torah need to be the bigger individuals and not dwell on a slight. Proverbs 25 says 21 "If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat, and if he is thirsty, give him water to drink. 22 For in so doing, you will heap burning coals on his head, and YeHoVAH will reward you." I think you were right in expressing your pain and disagreement based on the majority of us who watch this (as well as the tiresomeness of that particular stereotype), but forgiveness, laughter, and instruction go a long way to building bridges vs. closing a conversation because of, in my opinion, an inappropriate moment in an otherwise great video.
I love Kent Hovind,and Nehemia!!!🩵💛💚
Never imagined to see these 2 in an interview. From people still living, these 2 have been of the most influential people
Yes. Our modern day champions.
Só faltou Michael todo aí!!❤
Love them both, I’ve prayed many times that Nehemia accepts his Messiah
Finally the Justice League is uniting! Kent is credible & great! He is strong on Trinity Doctrine and other Papal Traditions but he is Christian Separatist. Be patient & teach him Hebrew!
Evolution leads to a rejection of biblical authority. We must defend Genesis against the acceptance of evolution.
Though I can accept a "gap theory" between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2, I have greatly valued Kent and another guys' teachings and taught them to my children because I, too, have always felt that evolutionism is ridiculous. Much love and respect for you both.
I love you Nehemia. I love Kent Hovind also even if he is Baptist arrogant at times.
Loved the show.
Nehemia I can't sit in your shoes and tell you what to fell, but from my perspective you were too sensitive about Kent's joke on Jews and Gold. It's a well known joke that yes some people mean it because they are full of hate.
You showed no difference between Kent who is know for his humor in his programs, and people of hate.
Even you say things about Christian's that they could get offended at.
Most don't because they choose to differentiate between the source saying it.
Keep up the good work otherwise.
I am not Jewish, but given the extreme anti-semitic rhetoric going on now, globally, I can understand why ANY Jew would take offense to that kind of stereotype. The adversary is the one who has inspired hatred and dismissal of the chosen people from the beginning. Look how white/caucasian people feel when we are ALL considered racists? Then the shoe is on the other foot. Compassion and respect for both men.
@@lindastorm7264Do you believe Israel, the Jews, are still God's chosen people?
I'm and Israelite... and I believe Yeshua is my redeemer.@@danzelhill
@@geneconroy7795 Do you believe this because you turned away from bad paths and back to YeHoWaH God and His Son or because you are born an Israelite citizen?
I've excepted Yeshua as my Redeemer/Savior... (Roman 10: 8-14) Adopted into the house of Israel through Yeshua (wild olive branch) and grafted into the natural branch.
2 of the 3 greatest authorities on biblical matters on Earth Today: Kent Holvind and Nehemia Gordon (Michael Rood is missing). But today, was Gordon's day to learn!!! Yehowah be with us!!
I took a photo of a plaza in Israel and a little girl came up to me asking what I was doing.
As soon as she found out she was in the photo - she whipped up her hand demanding money. I thought it rather sweet - and gave the loose change in my pocket.
The "uncomfortable" moment in this video brought that back - and I can tell you: it saddens me to see it is an issue.
Having said that ... the Jewish people are very polite and well mannered.
Bless the Name ❤
@@Bless-the-NameA little off subject, but I was thinking before I saw this...we have two huge egos demonstrated here. A friend of mine met Nehemia years ago and he was as audacious as Kent in his idealogy. Both good men and sorry that comment was made and that Nehemia was HURT.....not so much offended, but hurt. We need to stop using that word offend and go back to "you hurt my feelings"....that is a truer statement, I think.
@@lindastorm7264 I agree.
My neighbour was upset with his girlfriend once and I could see he was hurt - so I advised him:
Shouting angrily won't make it better. Tell her it hurt your feelings so she understands.
They patched things up with that.
My neighbor is a retired vet instructor and he told me , when the sperm enters the exterior of the egg it is coded and identified by the egg and if it's not the right code, the egg will self-destruct, destroying the egg and the sperm.
That's amazing!
Thank you for bringing up this topic. I would encourage you to actually listen to peope who believe Biblical cosmology. UA-camrs who are Torah Observant and discuss it realistically (which you can't find if you google it) are Whitsitgetsit, Kingdom in Context, Hanging on His Words, and Rob Skiba. Everything you guys discussed here, but had issues with, can be explained by Biblical cosmology. I think you'd be surprised if you talk to someone who believes the Bible this literally (I was!). They remind me of you, when you took the Torah at it's word and didn't add all the other stuff. May Yehovah bless your day and show you new ways of His love.
Note for Kent Hovind. At 24:06-25 you say that Moses wrote on the second stone tablets but this is wrong. See Exodus 34:1 and Deuteronomy 10:1-5
Just because he said something doesn’t mean that’s what he meant you’re missing the point of what he’s trying to say
Agreed. We all know that YaHuWaH wrote the second set.@@nust8235
Im reminded of a song why can't we be friends. Both of you are my favorites to our family too ❤
This was a good interview. I have seen Kent's material for many years. I love your study and insights on the Torah as well. I wish you could have given more imput from your area of expertise giving and added History Language and context. Love your work Nehemiah.
Exactly what I thought.
That thumbnail of Hovind riding the velociraptor was made as a gift to him from Michael Rood.
It is more than awesome, it has a heart touching back story.
The only practical application for evolution that I can think of is to be able to deny that Yehovah is Creator, and that mankind is therefore subject to His house rules.
God who is all powerful could easily stretch out the heavens.
play keep finding soft tissue in dinosaur bones over and over but you don't hear anything about it how can the bones of T REX have soft tissue if its 100s of millions years old?
That comment in the end by Kent Hovind about gold and jews was a little bit inappropriate. Other than that, very good interview concerning Kent's view on evolution theory vs young earth creation theory. Thanks to Nehemia Gordon for this video interview.
Christians and Jews love/gold money... listen to it again.. it was not a racist remark
After reading the comments and watching the part again I agree. @jeffreyfrye1811 says it well. Anyways... very good interview. Edited the comment a bit and moving on...
I am against government teaching secular humanism which is anti-faith
I'm against Govt. funded schools teaching the THEORY of Evolution as if it was proven Fact!!!
People don't want the beginning to be literal, because if it is (and it is) then the end is also literal.
True that!!
Wonderful to see Kent on your show!
I have been a fan of Kent Hovind since1999! So glad you could have him on!! I'm going to share this video widely.
Instead of playing devils advocate why not start using your experience and your guest experience to bring followers of YHVH together.... just an idea Docter Nehemiah Gordon. You have so much knowledge and wisdom. You also have a gift. Sharing your gift would allow your light to shine. Maybe faster than light speed.
Right. Why display your ignorance when you could perform where you shine. Like explaining to a Christian what a Pharisee actually is. That is Nehemia’s contribution. That is a monumental blessing and earth shaking paradigm shift for a Christian.
All I was saying was Doctor Gordon is one of the smartest scholars I have ever seen. The way he searches and understands the scripture is nothing less than greatness. I am not requested him to fight for Christians, but for the scripture. He is such a blessing to the world. Why not explain his own perspective or his understanding of the scripture.@@bobirving6052
Yeshua brought redemption, however troubling this sounds it is how the Christian world encourages each other.
I don't Kent fully gets the questions that Nehemiah's seems to be asking, based on his responses. Such as the creation being so simple...yet there are clear differences in ch 1 and ch 2 of Genesis. A closed mind doesn't understand open minded questions, unfortunately. I appreciate Nehemiah's approach here.
No bro cha 2 is in depth not different
Yes. Gen 2 just has a quick recap. Is the way a wise person would speak.
Hi Nehemiah. I want to applaud you on your bravery in getting Kent involved in this crucial matter. His skill in battling against Atheistic Scientism is legendary and his enthusiasm for the trustworthiness of the Holy Scriptures is truly inspiring. We mere mortals can never apprehend the depths of the mind of the Creator but, praise be unto Him, He has given us a reference book that we can use to guide us into wisdom and understanding in our observation of the creation. Please feel free and encouraged to have Kent and any of the many other creation scientist warriors testify of the truths they have seen in their investigations.
@GliderSteve56
Nehemia likes atheistic scientism.
It was watching Kent's creation series that made me give up evolution and embrace Yeh Ho VaH , so I'm always thankful to him for that , we definitely disagree on some pretty major issues but that's okay . We don't have copies of the first "New" Testament manuscripts which I believe were written in Hebrew and Aramaic , so I'm not sure if the originals were so antisemitic like the Greek manuscripts that we have now , i guess my point on that is that it's not entirely Kent's fault that he thinks that way , Nehemia , I would like to personally apologize for his comment at the end of the discussion
How are the Greek manuscripts antisemitic? How are we sure Hebrew and Aramaic even existed other than for Matthew? I am concerned that disagreement is now defined as hatred or racist. I support Netanyahu but think Lapid and his supporters need to sit down and shut up. am I anti-semetic?
Oh Boy, it's good to see Kent it still in shape!
I feel like Kent was being genuine the entire time and Nehemiah was being very rude in how he presented his body language and gestures. As if saying without actually saying how silly Kents beliefs are. Super disappointed Nehemiahs behavior. Be better bro. Wasnt a good look on you.
@matthaydon851
Yes. I saw that too. Looking for a chance to make it about his feelings. Too much like a woke democrat.
No one can claim they believe
that Jesus was raised from the dead
and
then not believe that God created
everything in six days some 6000 years ago.
Nehemia, I am so glad to see you have limits! I've wondered about that in the past. You let two other things he said pass, because you are nicer than I would have been. He dodged and danced around the subject of the" Protocols of the Elders of Zion," one of the most despicable hoaxes, that has and continues to be used to this very day to murder Jews. He never explained why he'd mention such a "reference" at all. Why would he dodge it if he was proud of it? At the very least, it revealed his ignorance and arrogance. So too, regarding the third comment. Regardless of what anyone thinks about everything else he said, this goes to his credibility and I might add, his level of decency.
Why is it that Jews are always expected to be less sensitive when people like this are either not sensitive at all, or are covering up for their downright arrogance and hatred? You go, Nehemia. Boundaries are a good thing! How people handle our differences are just as important as how they handle our similarities.
the more you read the bible the more you will see and be able to discern ,even if you do not believe it is the best book to read ever created by anyone.
Because??? Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of Yah.
My interest is on the topic; this is a well presented and informational exchange of ideas.
No matter the education level or understanding of an individual, pride can make a prude and create a war. No evolution there, that has been since the beginning historically.
Who will be the better man in the end ❔
I’ve literally, in person, seen Nehemia with gold. It was at a special speaking event where a big fan of his, gave him a gold coin.
He only had his pocket to put it, and He was concerned about losing it. I offered him that I could keep it safe in my wallet. He declined 🤣
Kent Hovind speaks wisdom given from God
My question is, if it can be agreed that God made man in his image, how can he do that if we are evolved from pond life like every other living organism? That is then like the gentiles who worshipped the living creatures instead of their Creator.
Hi, I think you have replied to the wrong comment.
YESSS! Love you two brothers! So much knowledge between you too, i need more steel sharpening steel! Shalom Brother! Enjoyed it very much as always!
Correction:wrote too soon..I also couldn't get passed the "gold" thing. I enjoyed it a little less. But you know what? I'll still say I love you Kent, just...damn.
just the wow expressions from Nehemiah as he thinks about things that he hasn't every thought about before is inspirational.
By research and observation, it is a scientifically proven fact that Yeshu'a HaMoshe'a does visit and heal people today, as in generations past, as the Hand of Yehovah revealed, even when called by the name Jesus. I have heard, seen, and experienced His presence, voice, and miracles.
I pray that Kent hovin would scrutinize NASA the same way he does to evolutionary science. 🙏
I deeply respect both these men. For the different fields of expertise. And it was a delight to watch this podcast.
Great and entertaining. Kent deserves some kindness. I actually think it’s sad you didn’t clip that out. He’s an imperfect man who has his battles in the trenches where there have been zero Jews interested in the topic. Now his statement regarding only one race with all in the image of god will be silenced by his ignorance of a fault that no one has ever sincerely corrected him.
It be great to challenge him such as I thought you said we are all in gods image?
Isn’t what you said an attack on your own statement?
Do you really believe what you said earlier?
Was saying we are all in the image of god just an easy way to avoid that you really do believe other people can be generalized and denigrated?
Believe whatever you wish and be congruent with it.
Leviticus 19:17
17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
I am not a scientist; I am an artist. But as long as I can remember, the theories and timeline of Evolution have always felt untrue. Though I have been exposed for a very long time in ways that convey the certainty of academia that it is "scientific truth" - it has simply never felt true. The more I now know about intelligent design and the geology of the flood studies, I feel that these are truthful. Genesis explained it in far fewer words and God knew man would figure it out to his satisfaction one day, however slowly...
I should add: the fossil record as well, all explained so well in video I saw from the "Answers In Genesis" series.
Yeah, not the first time he’s made a comment like that. I’ve written an angry letter about it before being Jewish myself.
In terms of his argument he has good intentions but I think he’s missing elements of knowledge in scripture too.
But even so, the more I read the more holes I find in the evolutionary side than the intelligent creationist side. This man excluded.
Dr James Tour would be a great interview IMO.
thanks for sharing your take on this!
It's definitely educational to people like me.
I want to add if I may that when I took an ancient art history class at my local university in the '90's, I will never forget one slide in particular, focusing on cave art. (And another in yet another ancient art history class, more on that one after.) There was a simple outline of an obvious dinosaur. Had it been shown to any child familiar with the Barney series, they would have recognized it immediately. The professor called it a "woolly mammoth". I raised my hand. I have seen depictions of mammoths. They do not have long, tall necks. They do not resemble brachiosauruses. There was nothing mammothian about this drawing. Nothing. I was amazed at the professor trying to point out the long, upward spine as that of a mammoth when it obviously was not. When I attempted to point out the differences, someone in the class laughingly offered that "it couldn't be a dinosaur, because they weren't around when humans were!" Being a very visual person, ignorant of the operative dating scale, that answer could never satisfy. It was amazing how people could insist on something so apparent as being not so. Nor could I be satisfied by being told that a realistic clay model of an alligator (scales clearly formed) on its back, holding a ball with hands, feet, and pointed tail-end was actually that of "a beaver." 😮 What is going on in academia? In these two classes on those two slides, they were trying to force-fit the models into the overarching narrative. That's so UNscientific! Thanks to this video, I finally have the reasons. Thank you, Kent Hovind! Thank you, Nehemia Gordon! (Very unfortunate "joke" at the very end, though. Oy. Just No. But I don't think Hovind really meant it. But still. No.😢.)
A closer moon means TOTALLY CRAZY sized tides.
Interesting discussion, minus the awkwardness at the end.
Oh my word I haven't seen Kent for ages.. this is a big one!!!
Blessings to you both 🙂
Not a time to divide but to build king and kingdom. U guys both rock so focus on the enemy which is sin. Not on each other. Shalom. ❤❤
Love you Nehemiah,and your collected wisdom ❤
Thank you for the video but it seemed you closed the interview early cause you couldn't get over something. I'm a non-Jew and if something offended you then I will try to empathize with you, as I didn't catch the offense. However, I agree with Mr. Hovind that the theory of Evolution is absolutely wrong. And the Bible says that 1 day is like a thousands years to GOD. Therefore, what GOD can do in 6 days or 6,000 years is just amazing and we are that result. At least we can agree on that because 13 or 14 BILLION YEARS is just absolutely Absurd. 13 to 14 billion human years of randomness will result in randomness. Not Intelligence.
Yup. Like saying that on a thousand miles of beach over a million years, one wave will leave 50 grains of sand stacked single file balanced on top of each other. Nope. Never can happen.
Not sure why what he said poked your nerves that much after a lifetime of hearing the practicing Jewish part of my family and countless Jewish friends joking about the same to extremes that make his joking a nothing burger… A lot of what I hear truly can’t be repeated and none of them are ever ashamed of joking about such things lol. But in my life experience reality that issue doesn’t plague any of the Jewish folks I’ve personally known any more than it plagues any other demographic.
No room for evolution here:
“The importance of the Sabbath as the memorial of creation is that it keeps ever present the true reason why worship is due to God”-because He is the Creator, and we are His creatures. “The Sabbath therefore lies at the very foundation of divine worship, for it teaches this great truth in the most impressive manner, and no other institution does this. The true ground of divine worship, not of that on the seventh day merely, but of all worship, is found in the distinction between the Creator and His creatures. This great fact can never become obsolete, and must never be forgotten.”-J. N. Andrews, History of the Sabbath, chapter 27. It was to keep this truth ever before the minds of men, that God instituted the Sabbath in Eden; and so long as the fact that He is our Creator continues to be a reason why we should worship Him, so long the Sabbath will continue as its sign and memorial. Had the Sabbath been universally kept, man’s thoughts and affections would have been led to the Creator as the object of reverence and worship, and there would never have been an idolater, an atheist, or an infidel. The keeping of the Sabbath is a a sign of loyalty to the true God, “Him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.”-The Great Controversy, pp. 437, 438.
Awesome show.. bring him on again
This is great i love the both of yous. May yehovah bless you and keep you both
The most relevant and convincing thing he said was the "God is not limited by space-time" . . . WOW . . . man can only understand things he can define and understand ? . . then Jesus (Messiah) is not possible in that mindset!
This is mind blowing !!! Thanks for the knowledge. Totally changes my outlook on creation ! Thank you !!!
Much love to you Nehemia, and I felt that was an inappropriate statement. Great conversation with a bunch of information presented that needs validation. Shalom and thank you.
If we were from primates why do we use pig organs as replacements and not our "relatives"? Cannibals call humans long pig.
Love the both of you gentlemen. Thank you both for sharing your knowledge!
Kent was trying to make a joke on the Jew and gold thing. It was a mistake meant to be funny . He didnt realize that not being familiar with this predjudice in particular on Jews.
He said it about himself first though. He said he would love to know how to make gold for himself first. I think Nehemia missed that. Then when Nehemiah called him out, Kent repeated that he would like to know as well. It's sad that Nehemia took it such a wrong way because it seemed like Kent was trying to build a bridge like, hey we may believe some different things but we all would love to know how to make gold.
Nehemia already wanted out of the conversation and was ripe to throw a fit like a baby.
He didn’t like that Hovind said that there are jews who want to take over the world. FACTS.
@@salvadaXgracia why the gold joke became inappropriate to Jews? Is it because Jews don't wear gold due to its tradition in Mt. Sinai of golden calf incident?
@@ruth7er The whole argument that kicked off the holocaust was that Jews took all the money and created a massive recession. The financial success of Jews has been wrongfully twisted into reasons to persecute them for centuries. Even now people side with "Palestinians" because they think Jews are making them poor.
Also remember He made light before stars so the light didn’t have to travel 13 billion years anyway, without the stretching.
Kent said that “evolution should not be in a science book, but it should be in a fairytale book or a religious book”.
Nehemia said that “...Yeshua in a fairytale book?”
How dishonest of Nehemia. Yeshua is in a RELIGIOUS book.
Kent Hovind is correct if you maintain biblical authority. Nehemiah if you grant any authority to your own tradition, then you have a Jewish calendar that confronts you with how Judaism understood its own Hebrew texts. It is ridiculous to think that the Pentateuchal author(s) and the original first readers understood the text as you were taught in graduate school (Yeshiva).
What makes you think Nehemiah went to a Yeshiva? There are various forms Judaism.
He went to the university to do his Ph.D. but he is in Israel getting a typically very liberal theological education. Being a Jew he also rubs shoulders with the yeshiva types as well@@scottschmitt4448
Nehemia - I am a scientist, having both degrees in Forestry and Structural Engineering and I believe the in a literal 7-day creation. I am well founded in plant and tree biology and have no problem looking over the shoulder of other scientists that work with other life forms. I also can do the same with geology and the full range of applied physics. On the engineering side I spent half a career testing material, which requires a scientist to careful sore through what are scientific observable, repeatable facts verses speculation based on observation. As a scientist, I have no problem with God being able to create this planet, the surrounding solar system with physical laws, looking the age it appears and knowing there are also spiritual truths and laws. Whether or not someone believes in a version or Creation or a version of Evolution is based not on observable repeatable facts, but rather on a person's world view. From a Jewish or Christian belief perspective, a persons view of the creation/evolution topic simplifies down to your view of God's capabilities.
Having said that, I was disappointed at Mr Hovind's presentation. He seemed more concerned that one accept a perspective based on "New Testament" theology rather than looking at science. Theology, for the casual reader, is when scripture is manipulated to support a man-made perspective on what scripture has or appears to have "wiggle room" in its interpretation. For me, it is much easier for me to look at the assumptions used to "scientifically" defend billions of years, the age of the universe or evolution. If you cannot go back in time, or travel further into space or deeper into the ground, it becomes unscientific to assume that our small space or reality is consistent with that which we cannot access to verify.
From a different perspective, you might find the genetic research with regard to Y-chain genetics interesting. This is the study of genetics that link you with your father, grandfather and other males individuals in the chain between you and Adam... or a chimp if you believe evolution. The scientist on this subject I find most intriguing is Nathaniel Jeanson. Disclaimer! He is a Christian, and is currently employed with Answers in Genesis, a young earth / 6-day Creation Christian ministry, but his research and approach to genetics points to the current human race coming from 4 early couples is intriging. His assumptions on the data presents a possible believable date for a Bereshit / Parashat Noach flood. He is not necessarily tuned into our unique scripture interests but He would give an interesting interview. One corner of his research has humanity divided into 3 families based on Shem, Ham and Jepheth. He has plenty of videos on UA-cam.
With the reference to the Red shift and the Stretching of the heavens like a curtain. Please refer to Dr Russel Humphreys. His credentials solid and he comes from this as a physicisist. Glad you and Kent had this conversation. Love you both. Todd