It's so cool to see the Avalanche back as a fully electric vehicle, but that interior looks quite dull for how much it costs. I wish I could afford one though lmao
All excess weight that most folks will almost never use. Americans are like that, not realistic about what they actually need. They're kind of gullible that way.
@@venussavage My friend Martin has an Avalanche and we just carried a load of lumber that would have been tough without the midgate folded down. He uses it all the time. Buy what you need.
the guy doesn’t review anything he basically does the same thing a salesman does reads off the spec sheet and options list no critical thinking no interesting insights no personality
Too pricey, yes. Great vehicle for those who can splurge; insane top of the line technology, cool design(subjective), insane performance compared to super cars from a decade ago, coold off road capability. Good thing we have options, used 3yr old truck, a new low trim (maverick, to Ford f150, to a silverado hd) truck within various price ranges. We have options. What do you need?
Yep it's a pretty cool truck but that weight and price are simply impractical for the vast majority of truck buyers. Keep in mind the RST trim starts in the mid 50s for ICE Silverados and weighs two tons less.
Yes it's badged as the RST but the ICE version doesn't compare when it comes to standard equipment. The EV is specced above what an ICE High Country would be. RS/RST trim level isn't even across all Chevy models. Base on some, mid range on others and top of the line in this.
@plmn93 At 1/4 the cost to charge at home gives the wallet a nice break. ICE Silverado's have a hard time with operating costs over time. "two tons less" = less stable towing/driving experience with heavier loads. Pay up front or pay later that is the question, it is practical if you are in with a long term mind set. Just to add here I bought this truck in white and found it a very capable truck towing my boat.
@@kelviskelvis7140 This thing costs $60K more than what I paid for my F-150 just 5 years ago and can't do the things I do with mine. Combined with the massive depreciation it will experience like all EVs, it definitely will not have a low cost of ownership. The gymnastics some people perform to justify these things are pretty ridiculous. EVs may be the future but this isn't it.
Jeeeeeezzz... four tons? That's insane. Any plans for an electric Colorado or similar small truck? We have solar and plan to shift to EVs, but I just need something that's practical for homeowners stuff -- some hauling, some light towing. If I need to drive across my back yard to move a bunch of brush or something, I don't want to leave huge ruts behind me. This just seems like an exercise in overkill. Maybe I should look at the Maverick hybrid....
I asked that question, I’ve got the expected “we don’t comment on future product”. But I think they’re leaving money on the table if they don’t consider it. Rumor has it that Kia is bringing something like that.
just buy a model y or equivelent my model y has a two rating of 3500 pounds so I have a 5x8 utility trailer for smaller loads of 1500lbs or less. Also can tow my 16ft aluminum boat if I wanted to.
$96k? Why can’t they just make something that people can afford? What’s the point of this? All that thought, effort and creativity for something nobody’s going to buy.
Or the folks that can afford it will never use the utility, it will just be a pavement princess that goes to the home improvement store for a bag or two of mulch once a year!
Quit reviewing this joke for the truck. 9000 lbs. dealers good luck collecting these trucks it is the most useless truck no one in his or her correct mind will buy this ones truck
Oh please, the Ford Raptor costs this much and I see them around. The problem for Chevy is if they make a profit on these? Just wait until the Cybertruck gets out of the Foundation series (a 20k up charge). Would you get an 80k AWD Cybertruck or a 96k RST? They are both great trucks but except for range and midgate the Tesla dominates. The range is the big thing. Chevy just threw in an enormous battery pack.
I'd love to be able to buy a 2 door, regular bed version that will fit into my garage! By ditching the back doors and mid-gate you save on 4 door testing, a lot of materials and manufacturing costs and weight! You can make it so much cheaper and lighter! With no drive shaft hump you can have a flat floor with plenty of leg room for that occasional 3rd passenger. For bonus points you can have a solar bed cover for added range. That would be truly awesome!!!
@user-in1mt4in6e "By ditching the back doors" you do not save on weight the 24 module battery pack weighs over 3000lb. "you can have a solar bed cover for added range" inconsequential - to add range effectively you need to add multiple KW's to make a dent in gaining range. This thing is a monster on energy storage. "3rd passenger" = bench seat - no market for that. Suggest you test drive the Silverado EV. It is pretty awesome, I just bought one in white after my test drive.
Looks like a really nice truck. I agree with the others here, the interior doesn't match $96K. I'll wait for a used GMC Sierra Denali version for half price. Also Supercruise is nowhere close to current FSD... yes it does highways and a few secondary state highway routes, but that's it - there level of intelligence isn't even similar.
700,000 miles of mapped roads. Also most like Super Cruise because of its proper monitoring system. It doesn't need to be completely smart as long as it does its one job well. GM will be introducing Super Cruise with LiDAR soon that will give it access to 95% of roads.
@Nebula1701 it's still going to be limited to very basic functionality of staying in the lanes and stopping and going with traffic, something I was able to do in a Kia with Comma AI 4 years ago. Not to mention how few GM vehicles will be equipped with that LIDAR package to begin with, by that time at the current rate of improvement Tesla will be at level 3 or beyond. I don't mean to sound like a Tesla fanboy or anything, but the FSD pretty much drives itself driveway to driveway now, parks itself, drives across parking lots by itself... then we get these nonsense comments like Mercedes or GM or Ford have a better system. It's laughable. Look up FSD v12.3.6 driving on UA-cam
I've driven both techs. Personally, I think SC works better for the most part. FSD is good... until it isn't. So the driver is often times on edge . SC is more confident and doesn't surprise the way AP and FSD does. Try it. I think you'd be impressed.
@DrivenCarReviews I have no doubt supercruise does well on the highway. I just think it's capabilities are much more limited than FSD. In my experience FSD has been basically flawless on the highway as well. It's hard to compare because Tesla's FSD is improving so rapidly - it's worlds better than it was even 3 or 4 months ago, and in another couple months at the current rate of improvement we've seen, it will be basically fully autonomous aside from the legal responsibility of the driver to pay attention. I wish GM luck, I'm glad they're at least paying attention to self driving tech. You should try Comma AI, that system plugs into a $25K Toyota/Honda/Kia and does what supercruise does. I've done hours hands free.
COOL TOM! Now when the charging infrastructure gets built out with high speed chargers this will be one of the vehicles I’d look at. You mentioned the WT version is $20K less and presumably would be as quiet. Not bad for long distance cruising.
No CarPlay is nuts and will bite GM in the ass. It might not matter as much with trucks, but people who don’t give a shit about anything but efficiency, value and range also care about connectivity and features. They just bricked 60% of the US market. Watch it come back in an OTA update after they renegotiate with Google in 2 years. GM, read my lips, WE DON’T WANT ONSTAR.
I was wandering around the local Chevy/GMC/Toyota dealer lot recently. Lots of new pickups, many over $80,000 and even the base Chevy models were priced at $50,000. None were electric.
@@DrivenCarReviews Absolutely but I believe you mentioned it was the highest trim/cost model. Is all wheel steering a thing on all versions? That alone must be a costly feature.
I'm sure the landscaping companies towing their trailers through my neighborhood will be STANDING IN LINE to pick one of these up. How many lawns do you need to mow to pay for a $100,000 truck with 8% interest?
🖐 this is not a work truck by any measure, it’s too pricey and you’d be afraid to scratch it, never mind load it with a work load. (Loaded it up and try and get 200 miles out of a full charge!)
@@JustMe99999 still don’t want it 😂 give me a hybrid cause if you think I’m waiting on ANYTHING to charge for 10-15 when it takes me less than 5 minutes to get my gas at the pump, they gotta be smoking 🚬
Wow - $96K+, 8,500 lbs and 700+ HP. Truly astounding figures. So will the insurance premium… Time will tell but I would not bet that this will find a large buyer market.
@@Thunderbolt-ws7qm it doesn't mean that at all. Insurance rates are based on hundreds of factors- most of them based on your risk of causing liability to others, the most expensive part of insurance for providers. Believe me, they're making money on my $1600 because chances are very low that I'll even file a claim.
@Cttechexpress: You implied that your reasonable insurance rates are attributable to your vehicle choice. Do you believe your vehicle's qualities will result in a lower frequency or severity of claims? My thoughts: The avoidance technology is likely no better than that of a recent model Toyota Corolla (producing a similar frequency, other things held equal). Also, the expensive materials, manufacturing processes, lack of repair facilities and knowledge, along with added weight - will increase the severity of both collision and liability claims.
@Thunderbolt-ws7qm yeah maybe people who drive Rivians have low insurance risk. Maybe Rivians having advanced driver assistance, a front crumple zone the size of a Honda Prelude along witn a low center of gravity, and a 5 star+ safety a crash rating have been determined to be less likely to be allow the occupants to be injured. We'll never know exactly without a direct comparison for the same driver. I also own a Model S Plaid, which is older and worth slightly less, and insurance is 50% higher in that.
At least if you are going to hobble the better qualities of a pickup truck by saddling it with the issues that come with an electric motor, Chevy by far does the best to minimize the inconvenience and problems for the simple reason that they know how to build a pickup truck that people want to buy. The Silverado EV (or even the Rivian) are what the Cyber Truck should have been but were to pretentious to admit they don't have the knowledge or expertise to build.
The weight on all of these electric trucks is just insane. I don't care what tricks they come up with to make it "feel" lighter to the driver, there's no overcoming the physics behind it weighing 2x the average vehicle. I'm glad they're all 2x the price too. The battery power density is just not where it needs to be.
@awv9600 you have it a$$ backwards extremely low center of gravity and torque from electric motors is the force that makes it "feel" lighter to the driver. (just the nature of any BEV over ICE) I agree the battery density will be improved over time, no one now has it where it needs to be in 2024. BEV has reached nominal price parity with ICE in 2025 releases.
@drivencarreviews Can you reach out to GM about adding a camp mode option to the HVAC. Seems like a real miss when the max time the HVAC will run Is 1 hour. With the pass through you could use the HVAC to heat/cool the bed for camping.
I get the idea of coming in high, but the 350 mile battery, no rear steering and coil suspension would maybe have scared off fewer folks with the price tag, and weighed 1000+ lb less while having better payload capacity.
Cold doesn't have nearly the effect on range you think it does. The battery packs heat up under use. Leave it plugged in overnight, and it will start the day preconditioned.
I would say the 80k pound semi's take care of most of the damage. If a road cant handle 8-9k pounds it wasn't built correctly. I haul a dump trailer that has max capacity of 14k pounds on top of the 5-6 pounds for my truck.
Simple test----live with this for a year and drive it every day in every kind of weather. Tow a travel trailer behind it during family road trips. Log every mile, charge times and costs. Distill the data and see if it's anywhere as good of a daily as an ICE Silverado.
GM's Steve Warner for being the EV program engineering manager does NOT know ev terms. 205 kwh battery? How have customers put in or used around 212 kwhs. It does NOT charge at 350 kwhs, it charges up to 350 kw (not kwh). Steve Warner has a 50kw charger on his HOUSE, WOW. He must have three phase 440 volt with a 115 amp breaker to power a 50 kw DC fast charger in his home. I think he must have miss spoke! 19 to 22 mph on 50 kw charger! That is terrible! Oh, a 50 amp kw, what the hell! Ok, for non engineers, he has a 240 volt plug with a 50 amp breaker and a 9.6 kw EVSE. 240 x 40 =9.6 kw. Steve Warner, please say your terms correctly as a lot of EV drivers know ev terms. This was not a good look for you.
@mrabrasive51 Most pick truck customers in 2024 only drive 20-30 miles on average daily. Why pay for it if you do not use it. The 14 module battery option in the 2025 Silverado EV LT trim will be coming in at low $50k and nicely featured too. That is price parity with ICE.
Remember bigger battery means longer charging times. Home would take 28 hours with a 35 amp 220 volt charger. Plug into a household 15 amp, expect 5.5 days to fully replenish. Level three chargers if you can find them still require a solid hour and a half to 80%.. Most chargers.
@@DrivenCarReviews My favorite electric EV though. I like what GM is doing. The hummer, the GMC Sierra EV, great looking and capable vehicles. I just think there's another chapter or two out there before practicality sets in to my world.
EV trucks could be a powerful enticing vehicle for the American public if they weren't so darn expensive. ICE trucks are expensive as it is, but because the vehicle is an EV it shouldn't have a 10% or more markup than its ICE counter. I wish more companies made smaller truck EV's. I would love to see a Maverick EV type/sized vehicle. I think it would be a hit.
Nice truck, but $100k? Well I guess it takes that massive battery to get 400 miles of range. Now if the can only get than range into the cars I can afford.
All the talk of range is great, not enough talk about what it costs to “fill the tank” on the road or miles/kwh. Moving mass is moving mass, no matter the method of propulsion.
@@DrivenCarReviews No question; I am fully on board. I am concerned about America's love for massive vehicles. EV trucks are still pricey to operate compared to more efficient EV cars. Some people I have spoken to, don't understand the ins and outs. They just see a truck.
All that power but no utility/camp mode. Vehicle won't stay on for more than an hour powering your stuff. What should we do, keep coming back to the truck to turn it off and on again? No dog mode? Why do other EV makers have this mode but Chevy doesn't? We need a lockable air conditioned cabin with 12V power for as long as we want. That's the entire point of EVs, so you can do that.
Looks nice but to expensive range sounds nice until you pull anything and when the battery craps out it costs more than the vehicle is worth. Also fast charging will make the battery crap out sooner. Forcing people to buy new. So no electric for me.
It's nice, but as I've said before, EV's right now are mainly play toys for the rich. $95k? A top trim Chevy Silverado in 1987 was about $13,000 (equivalent to about $36,000 today). Back in the days when an anyone could afford a Silverado truck. Even base trims were only $9100 (equivalent to $25,117 today).
Have you priced a new Lariat F-150? I mean 80K plus. Fi someone doesn't want an EV that's cool, but the cost of all new trucks is insane. Unless someone gets like a Maverick which I think is why they are selling so well. Who knows...but more choices is fine by me.
@@drn13355 Oh I know. The industry convinced everyone they needed a truck, then kept increasing the prices. A F-150 today is what a Camry was 25 years ago, a family car. The difference being a Camry was affordable, fuel efficient, reliable and had great resale when you moved on from it. It actually made a lot of sense.
Way to much money for the average pickup driver, who are chevy fans,like me. First model year, remember the bolt first year😂😮😅😮. Seen videos here on the hummer which has a huge battery like this and it takes a very long time to charge even at high speed charging hubs.
It’s sad that like rest of the car manufacturers forgot what pickups were used for. Impress me by dumping a tractor bucket of manure in the bed (warning better keep that precious sun roof closed) then haul it 50 miles. Then I still don’t think it’s worth it. Basically it’s I truly love the environment but I EV’s are far more damaging to it than any gas vehicle could ever do.
@@DrivenCarReviews durability, longevity, functionality in cold weather, fire potential… With rapidly evolving battery technology (Toyota and Nissan are promising solid state), I think leasing an EV is the way to go.
@@MechayaAlta Hard to say right now. Typically the LG/GM cells have done really well when it comes to durability and longevity (once the Bolt issue was fixed). Cold weather is pretty universal across the board. I'm skeptical about SS packs happening in the near future but that's me.
Can we talk about the elephant in the room? Tesla is asking $120k for the current loaded Founder’s Edition of the Cybertruck. What are you getting for $25k more? One could argue FSD has more capability across all roads. And you get access to Tesla’s superior Supercharger network. Otherwise? The Chevy seems to have a lot more flexibility in cargo carrying, and the massive battery nets you far more range. If you want to go as far in the CT, add another $16k to the CT price to get the range extender - eventually - and give up a massive chunk of your bed. Yes, the Chevy is left efficient. But I think a lot of buyers will look at price/range between Silverado and CT and see the Chevy as superior. Too bad Chevy ditched phone integration. I think many buyers will keep GM off their list until they wise up and add that back in. Otherwise, I think Chevy nailed it, even with the price. As Tom said, they hit the sweet spot. Curious to see how much lower priced lesser models will be.
I have a 2021 6.2, Camaro 2SS 1LE Track package, and it gives me 360 miles on the highways on a full tank and premium gas. If I run out of gas in a couple of minutes, I fill my tank and continue my adventure without having to wait for hours.
It is not about spending time to learn it, I want to use the system, Apple car play, I know. That must be the stupidest delete I have ever heard of. GM probably wants to share your info with insurance and credit companies. Stay away.
For the most part, there really isn’t much of a learning curve. It’s like any touchscreen interface. In someways it’s easier because the voice commands are extremely easy to use. Very natural. But you would never know unless you tried it.
@@DrivenCarReviews Of course, but not when I've practiced several times in advance of a company presentation. This should have been an important event for these GM people and they should have been thoroughly practiced. But, I suppose since the Ultium rollout has been a pretty big disaster so far, his lack of preparation for your interview fits well into that narrative.
so in an accident and youre in a normal ICE vehicle that doesnt weigh 8500 pds, isnt this kind of thing going to demolish a normal vehicle? and isnt this type of weight going to tear up road, guard rails etc? and who is going to being paying for the extra wear? Is the insurance going to be way more because off all that weight hitting smaller, lighter vehicles? There are a lot of ifs with these EVS, and i dont see the need for a truck this big. Everyone used to complain about the size of sedans/coupe back in the day, well this thing is bigger, and will never be used for its intended purpose. Someone will just drive this to work. Oh and the Price? Theyve got to be kidding....very few people can afford $100k for a truck...how bout some normal sized coupes and sedans? This thing wont fit in a garage or a parking space, just a stupid design for inferior feeling people that think they have something to prove..smh
Can someone buy me this beast, let me be the first person to drive one here in South Africa. 🌍🌍🌍👏👏👏 What an impressive beast. Mmmmmm it a wow
It's so cool to see the Avalanche back as a fully electric vehicle, but that interior looks quite dull for how much it costs. I wish I could afford one though lmao
Check out the Sierra EV, GM put the expensive interior in that one.
The original Avalanche is where plastic body cladding went to die.
@@venussavage Went to die in its faded grey glory! :)
That foldable, split bulkhead thing looks genuinely useful, coupled with the origami tailgate as well.
All excess weight that most folks will almost never use. Americans are like that, not realistic about what they actually need. They're kind of gullible that way.
@@venussavage And foreigners run their mouth about shit they don't know anything about. crazy LMAO
@@venussavage My friend Martin has an Avalanche and we just carried a load of lumber that would have been tough without the midgate folded down. He uses it all the time. Buy what you need.
Among my favorite auto reviewers!!!
Mine too! 👍
the guy doesn’t review anything
he basically does the same thing a salesman does
reads off the spec sheet and options list
no critical thinking
no interesting insights
no personality
Impressive but way too pricey.
Agreed, but a loaded ICE truck as capable as this one cost almost as much.
Too pricey, yes. Great vehicle for those who can splurge; insane top of the line technology, cool design(subjective), insane performance compared to super cars from a decade ago, coold off road capability. Good thing we have options, used 3yr old truck, a new low trim (maverick, to Ford f150, to a silverado hd) truck within various price ranges. We have options. What do you need?
@@Bum_Hip This is not a loaded truck. RST is a mid level trim and the gas versions start in the mid 50s.
@@plmn93I said what I said. I ask you, can the ICE version go 0-60 in 4.something seconds?
@@Bum_Hip ice far more capable tho.
Oh, look, another EV I'll never be able to afford! It's stunning, though, and is close to the range I would be looking for.
Thanks, Tom, for all the great videos. But for the hefty price and weight, it looks like a fantastic truck.
Thanks localnut1!
As always, thank you, Tom! Great assessment and review of this vehicle. You always have a delightful way of reviewing vehicles.
I live in the Seattle area and should take delivery in mid August. Reach out if you would like to do a drive/tow test in the final version.
Yep it's a pretty cool truck but that weight and price are simply impractical for the vast majority of truck buyers. Keep in mind the RST trim starts in the mid 50s for ICE Silverados and weighs two tons less.
Yes it's badged as the RST but the ICE version doesn't compare when it comes to standard equipment.
The EV is specced above what an ICE High Country would be. RS/RST trim level isn't even across all Chevy models. Base on some, mid range on others and top of the line in this.
@plmn93 At 1/4 the cost to charge at home gives the wallet a nice break. ICE Silverado's have a hard time with operating costs over time. "two tons less" = less stable towing/driving experience with heavier loads. Pay up front or pay later that is the question, it is practical if you are in with a long term mind set. Just to add here I bought this truck in white and found it a very capable truck towing my boat.
@@kelviskelvis7140 This thing costs $60K more than what I paid for my F-150 just 5 years ago and can't do the things I do with mine. Combined with the massive depreciation it will experience like all EVs, it definitely will not have a low cost of ownership.
The gymnastics some people perform to justify these things are pretty ridiculous. EVs may be the future but this isn't it.
Jeeeeeezzz... four tons? That's insane. Any plans for an electric Colorado or similar small truck? We have solar and plan to shift to EVs, but I just need something that's practical for homeowners stuff -- some hauling, some light towing. If I need to drive across my back yard to move a bunch of brush or something, I don't want to leave huge ruts behind me. This just seems like an exercise in overkill. Maybe I should look at the Maverick hybrid....
I asked that question, I’ve got the expected “we don’t comment on future product”. But I think they’re leaving money on the table if they don’t consider it. Rumor has it that Kia is bringing something like that.
2025 Plug in hybrid Maverick is the practical way to go.
just buy a model y or equivelent my model y has a two rating of 3500 pounds so I have a 5x8 utility trailer for smaller loads of 1500lbs or less. Also can tow my 16ft aluminum boat if I wanted to.
So many clever touches, it will be an incredibly practical vehicle
$96k? Why can’t they just make something that people can afford? What’s the point of this? All that thought, effort and creativity for something nobody’s going to buy.
Or the folks that can afford it will never use the utility, it will just be a pavement princess that goes to the home improvement store for a bag or two of mulch once a year!
It's like that with new technology. Remember how expensive flat screen TVs used to be?
Because these greedy manufacturers are out of touch with reality They have been blinded by greed
Quit reviewing this joke for the truck. 9000 lbs. dealers good luck collecting these trucks it is the most useless truck no one in his or her correct mind will buy this ones truck
Oh please, the Ford Raptor costs this much and I see them around. The problem for Chevy is if they make a profit on these? Just wait until the Cybertruck gets out of the Foundation series (a 20k up charge). Would you get an 80k AWD Cybertruck or a 96k RST? They are both great trucks but except for range and midgate the Tesla dominates. The range is the big thing. Chevy just threw in an enormous battery pack.
I'd love to be able to buy a 2 door, regular bed version that will fit into my garage! By ditching the back doors and mid-gate you save on 4 door testing, a lot of materials and manufacturing costs and weight! You can make it so much cheaper and lighter! With no drive shaft hump you can have a flat floor with plenty of leg room for that occasional 3rd passenger. For bonus points you can have a solar bed cover for added range. That would be truly awesome!!!
@user-in1mt4in6e "By ditching the back doors" you do not save on weight the 24 module battery pack weighs over 3000lb. "you can have a solar bed cover for added range" inconsequential - to add range effectively you need to add multiple KW's to make a dent in gaining range. This thing is a monster on energy storage. "3rd passenger" = bench seat - no market for that. Suggest you test drive the Silverado EV. It is pretty awesome, I just bought one in white after my test drive.
WOW! TOM - You have done it again.💥
Looks like a really nice truck. I agree with the others here, the interior doesn't match $96K. I'll wait for a used GMC Sierra Denali version for half price. Also Supercruise is nowhere close to current FSD... yes it does highways and a few secondary state highway routes, but that's it - there level of intelligence isn't even similar.
700,000 miles of mapped roads. Also most like Super Cruise because of its proper monitoring system. It doesn't need to be completely smart as long as it does its one job well.
GM will be introducing Super Cruise with LiDAR soon that will give it access to 95% of roads.
@Nebula1701 it's still going to be limited to very basic functionality of staying in the lanes and stopping and going with traffic, something I was able to do in a Kia with Comma AI 4 years ago. Not to mention how few GM vehicles will be equipped with that LIDAR package to begin with, by that time at the current rate of improvement Tesla will be at level 3 or beyond.
I don't mean to sound like a Tesla fanboy or anything, but the FSD pretty much drives itself driveway to driveway now, parks itself, drives across parking lots by itself... then we get these nonsense comments like Mercedes or GM or Ford have a better system. It's laughable.
Look up FSD v12.3.6 driving on UA-cam
I've driven both techs. Personally, I think SC works better for the most part. FSD is good... until it isn't. So the driver is often times on edge . SC is more confident and doesn't surprise the way AP and FSD does. Try it. I think you'd be impressed.
@@Aegisx5 Next Gen SC is going to be Driveway to Driveway.
@DrivenCarReviews I have no doubt supercruise does well on the highway. I just think it's capabilities are much more limited than FSD. In my experience FSD has been basically flawless on the highway as well. It's hard to compare because Tesla's FSD is improving so rapidly - it's worlds better than it was even 3 or 4 months ago, and in another couple months at the current rate of improvement we've seen, it will be basically fully autonomous aside from the legal responsibility of the driver to pay attention.
I wish GM luck, I'm glad they're at least paying attention to self driving tech. You should try Comma AI, that system plugs into a $25K Toyota/Honda/Kia and does what supercruise does. I've done hours hands free.
COOL TOM! Now when the charging infrastructure gets built out with high speed chargers this will be one of the vehicles I’d look at. You mentioned the WT version is $20K less and presumably would be as quiet. Not bad for long distance cruising.
I see the LT as the one to buy. Lower cost, better interior. And once the initial first adapters get their trucks, pricing will drop. It is the way.
Your videos rock!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
No CarPlay is nuts and will bite GM in the ass. It might not matter as much with trucks, but people who don’t give a shit about anything but efficiency, value and range also care about connectivity and features. They just bricked 60% of the US market. Watch it come back in an OTA update after they renegotiate with Google in 2 years.
GM, read my lips, WE DON’T WANT ONSTAR.
millions of evs are sold without carplay. Ive never used it so maybe I don't know what I am missing. What is so great about carplay?
Only a vocal minority cares about Carplay. Get over it.
Very impressive. Waiting for TrailBoss
I was wandering around the local Chevy/GMC/Toyota dealer lot recently. Lots of new pickups, many over $80,000 and even the base Chevy models were priced at $50,000. None were electric.
True. But 97K is still spendy.
They just barely starting building these. The trims in production are only sold to fleets currently. Zero dealerships have them yet.
@@DrivenCarReviews Absolutely but I believe you mentioned it was the highest trim/cost model. Is all wheel steering a thing on all versions? That alone must be a costly feature.
I'm sure the landscaping companies towing their trailers through my neighborhood will be STANDING IN LINE to pick one of these up. How many lawns do you need to mow to pay for a $100,000 truck with 8% interest?
Get one of the WTs under 80K can get the 7500 rebate and other state and local incentives... also deals for businesses.
You realize range drops in half when towing right?
@@JensSchraeder Towing 6,000 lbs maybe, but not lawn care gear.
@@Nebula1701 Biden sucks, giving away our tax dollars to the rich idiots who buy these things. Go Brandon!
🖐 this is not a work truck by any measure, it’s too pricey and you’d be afraid to scratch it, never mind load it with a work load. (Loaded it up and try and get 200 miles out of a full charge!)
They want us to change to ev but the price tag is nearly $90,000?!?! Yep leave it at the dealership
Biden will give our tax dollars to the rich folk who buy these things.
Plenty of EV's are way less than that.
@@JustMe99999 still don’t want it 😂 give me a hybrid cause if you think I’m waiting on ANYTHING to charge for 10-15 when it takes me less than 5 minutes to get my gas at the pump, they gotta be smoking 🚬
Wow - $96K+, 8,500 lbs and 700+ HP. Truly astounding figures. So will the insurance premium… Time will tell but I would not bet that this will find a large buyer market.
Insurance on my Rivian R1S (MSRP $98K) is only $1600/year for excellent coverage. Not always as bad as you think.
@@Aegisx5 Your insurance premiums should be "bad", based on repair and replacement costs. Instead, the rest of us get bent over
@@Thunderbolt-ws7qm it doesn't mean that at all. Insurance rates are based on hundreds of factors- most of them based on your risk of causing liability to others, the most expensive part of insurance for providers. Believe me, they're making money on my $1600 because chances are very low that I'll even file a claim.
@Cttechexpress: You implied that your reasonable insurance rates are attributable to your vehicle choice.
Do you believe your vehicle's qualities will result in a lower frequency or severity of claims?
My thoughts: The avoidance technology is likely no better than that of a recent model Toyota Corolla (producing a similar frequency, other things held equal). Also, the expensive materials, manufacturing processes, lack of repair facilities and knowledge, along with added weight - will increase the severity of both collision and liability claims.
@Thunderbolt-ws7qm yeah maybe people who drive Rivians have low insurance risk. Maybe Rivians having advanced driver assistance, a front crumple zone the size of a Honda Prelude along witn a low center of gravity, and a 5 star+ safety a crash rating have been determined to be less likely to be allow the occupants to be injured. We'll never know exactly without a direct comparison for the same driver.
I also own a Model S Plaid, which is older and worth slightly less, and insurance is 50% higher in that.
At least if you are going to hobble the better qualities of a pickup truck by saddling it with the issues that come with an electric motor, Chevy by far does the best to minimize the inconvenience and problems for the simple reason that they know how to build a pickup truck that people want to buy. The Silverado EV (or even the Rivian) are what the Cyber Truck should have been but were to pretentious to admit they don't have the knowledge or expertise to build.
Good review 👍
Too big, I think they missed an opportunity to make the Colorado EV, just as Ford missed with the Ranger.
The weight on all of these electric trucks is just insane. I don't care what tricks they come up with to make it "feel" lighter to the driver, there's no overcoming the physics behind it weighing 2x the average vehicle. I'm glad they're all 2x the price too. The battery power density is just not where it needs to be.
@awv9600 you have it a$$ backwards extremely low center of gravity and torque from electric motors is the force that makes it "feel" lighter to the driver. (just the nature of any BEV over ICE) I agree the battery density will be improved over time, no one now has it where it needs to be in 2024. BEV has reached nominal price parity with ICE in 2025 releases.
@drivencarreviews Can you reach out to GM about adding a camp mode option to the HVAC. Seems like a real miss when the max time the HVAC will run Is 1 hour. With the pass through you could use the HVAC to heat/cool the bed for camping.
I'm not sure they listen to me but yeah, sure.
@@DrivenCarReviews thank you!!
I get the idea of coming in high, but the 350 mile battery, no rear steering and coil suspension would maybe have scared off fewer folks with the price tag, and weighed 1000+ lb less while having better payload capacity.
Yup, that model will come.
8500 lbs?! I'm sorry, that's just unacceptable. Totally insane
Completely missed the dollar cost per range mile on this vs other EV pickups. This does *really* well in those terms.
So what’s the range when it’s 40 below outside?
Probably 100 miles or less lol
Cold doesn't have nearly the effect on range you think it does. The battery packs heat up under use. Leave it plugged in overnight, and it will start the day preconditioned.
If that truck is 4 tons, imagine the damage it’s gonna do to the roads with only four standard wheels.
Or some sport in a Miata. These giant heavy vehicles are so American, they just suck in so many ways.
I would say the 80k pound semi's take care of most of the damage. If a road cant handle 8-9k pounds it wasn't built correctly. I haul a dump trailer that has max capacity of 14k pounds on top of the 5-6 pounds for my truck.
Simple test----live with this for a year and drive it every day in every kind of weather. Tow a travel trailer behind it during family road trips. Log every mile, charge times and costs. Distill the data and see if it's anywhere as good of a daily as an ICE Silverado.
If someone’s actual usage is towing a travel trailer regularly then the EV won’t work. For everyone else the EV will beat the gas truck!
@@matthewprather7386 Not at that price. This thing is $40K more than an ICE Silverado RST and two tons heavier.
@@matthewprather7386 You are still going to get over 200 mile range towing.
@@plmn93 then get a lighting
@@matthewprather7386 Then why have a truck? LOL. Yeah, lets get a truck but we can't tow with it......
GM's Steve Warner for being the EV program engineering manager does NOT know ev terms.
205 kwh battery? How have customers put in or used around 212 kwhs.
It does NOT charge at 350 kwhs, it charges up to 350 kw (not kwh).
Steve Warner has a 50kw charger on his HOUSE, WOW. He must have three phase 440 volt with a 115 amp breaker to power a 50 kw DC fast charger in his home. I think he must have miss spoke!
19 to 22 mph on 50 kw charger! That is terrible!
Oh, a 50 amp kw, what the hell! Ok, for non engineers, he has a 240 volt plug with a 50 amp breaker and a 9.6 kw EVSE. 240 x 40 =9.6 kw.
Steve Warner, please say your terms correctly as a lot of EV drivers know ev terms. This was not a good look for you.
I can’t get jiggy with this.
Great job
It’s too expensive and I’ll never afford it. But I’d love to have one of the WT trims.
I don't care if it goes 1000 miles on a double A battery..100k is too much!
@mrabrasive51 Most pick truck customers in 2024 only drive 20-30 miles on average daily. Why pay for it if you do not use it. The 14 module battery option in the 2025 Silverado EV LT trim will be coming in at low $50k and nicely featured too. That is price parity with ICE.
For campers, the ability to lower the mid-gate would be useful for climate control.
In NY, could you take this on the Parkways? Cars only.
Remember bigger battery means longer charging times. Home would take 28 hours with a 35 amp 220 volt charger. Plug into a household 15 amp, expect 5.5 days to fully replenish. Level three chargers if you can find them still require a solid hour and a half to 80%.. Most chargers.
Apparently EV fans don’t understand electricity or physics.
@@JensSchraederyeah we got it.
You know, that reminds me I had a graphic for that which I forgot to add. Dang.
Not to mention 90% of the time that range will not be required.. So carrying around hundreds of pounds of dead weight.
@@DrivenCarReviews My favorite electric EV though. I like what GM is doing. The hummer, the GMC Sierra EV, great looking and capable vehicles. I just think there's another chapter or two out there before practicality sets in to my world.
Neighbor has the Hummer and it looks almost as absurd as the CT. Huge. Has to be insanely slow with home charging.
The numbers just don’t work for volume sales. So without volume, why are we doing this?
Let's check back in a year and see how it's working.
Whats the range when you tow max weight?
In the toilet.
About 220 miles.
Does it get it's own zip code......big beast it is.
1:46 - # THE BROTHERS "VOELCK"
I can drive over 650 in my truck per fill. Can be back on the road in less then 5 minutes
But you can't fill it at home. And gas costs a whole lot more.
The battery can last 440 miles, but what about the truck?
EV trucks could be a powerful enticing vehicle for the American public if they weren't so darn expensive. ICE trucks are expensive as it is, but because the vehicle is an EV it shouldn't have a 10% or more markup than its ICE counter. I wish more companies made smaller truck EV's. I would love to see a Maverick EV type/sized vehicle. I think it would be a hit.
How about Gm sells the WT truck to regular folks instead of reserving it for fleet only? Not paying 96k for a truck, that's ridiculous.
They will come down in price
i will wait 1 or 2 years get it for 45k used.
Wait another few months and it'll be even less.
100k for a pickup and 25/month for super cruise. What a rip off.
I want the GMC version of this, but my budget actually says to buy a Hertz Silverado EV next year.
interesting to see a real automotive journalist seated next to voelk the empty suit
Nice truck, but $100k? Well I guess it takes that massive battery to get 400 miles of range. Now if the can only get than range into the cars I can afford.
I wonder how much insurance costs for one these?
Omg, 100k and he says it is in the sweet spot. Insane
Considering the cost and capability of the competition, it is for EVs.
Seen one on the road looked small like the Colorado
All of that but no NACS...insane.
440 mile range claimed... so we can expect 300?
Did you hide your evil twin in the frunk?
Good video.
Who can afford it?
Reviewers on all expense paid trips who get to stay in fancy hotel and eat too much beef.
@@paulm6481 That sounds like the free trips politicians (and apparently judges) enjoy. I don't think Tom has it quite that good.
The same people who can afford any top trim full size pickup. All of them have gone up.
All the talk of range is great, not enough talk about what it costs to “fill the tank” on the road or miles/kwh. Moving mass is moving mass, no matter the method of propulsion.
Still much cheaper to operate when charging at home, and nearly 85% of it is done there.
@@DrivenCarReviews No question; I am fully on board. I am concerned about America's love for massive vehicles. EV trucks are still pricey to operate compared to more efficient EV cars. Some people I have spoken to, don't understand the ins and outs. They just see a truck.
0:35 Yay, someone who isn't flaunting a "brand new" truck feature.
Would it have camper ?
I am stuck on gas and if I was an ev guy, I would go with the hummer or riven
GM would be just fine with you choosing Hummer instead of Silverado.
All that power but no utility/camp mode. Vehicle won't stay on for more than an hour powering your stuff. What should we do, keep coming back to the truck to turn it off and on again? No dog mode? Why do other EV makers have this mode but Chevy doesn't? We need a lockable air conditioned cabin with 12V power for as long as we want. That's the entire point of EVs, so you can do that.
96k for Chevy
Looks nice but to expensive range sounds nice until you pull anything and when the battery craps out it costs more than the vehicle is worth. Also fast charging will make the battery crap out sooner. Forcing people to buy new. So no electric for me.
Good time to preview this..not a fan of Cybertruck or Elon
It's nice, but as I've said before, EV's right now are mainly play toys for the rich. $95k? A top trim Chevy Silverado in 1987 was about $13,000 (equivalent to about $36,000 today). Back in the days when an anyone could afford a Silverado truck. Even base trims were only $9100 (equivalent to $25,117 today).
Have you priced a new Lariat F-150? I mean 80K plus. Fi someone doesn't want an EV that's cool, but the cost of all new trucks is insane. Unless someone gets like a Maverick which I think is why they are selling so well. Who knows...but more choices is fine by me.
@@drn13355 Oh I know. The industry convinced everyone they needed a truck, then kept increasing the prices. A F-150 today is what a Camry was 25 years ago, a family car. The difference being a Camry was affordable, fuel efficient, reliable and had great resale when you moved on from it. It actually made a lot of sense.
I would definitely prefer a midsized truck at a lower price.
Way to much money for the average pickup driver, who are chevy fans,like me. First model year, remember the bolt first year😂😮😅😮. Seen videos here on the hummer which has a huge battery like this and it takes a very long time to charge even at high speed charging hubs.
Nice Nice Chevy Pickup Not Cheap 😁😁😁😉😁😉😁🎉🎉🎉🎉
It’s sad that like rest of the car manufacturers forgot what pickups were used for. Impress me by dumping a tractor bucket of manure in the bed (warning better keep that precious sun roof closed) then haul it 50 miles. Then I still don’t think it’s worth it. Basically it’s I truly love the environment but I EV’s are far more damaging to it than any gas vehicle could ever do.
Are GM Ultium batteries better than the standard Tesla batteries?
In what way?
@@DrivenCarReviews durability, longevity, functionality in cold weather, fire potential…
With rapidly evolving battery technology (Toyota and Nissan are promising solid state), I think leasing an EV is the way to go.
@@DrivenCarReviews Give it some thought and come up with an answer, I can think of a few criterion. Do you know the answer?
@@MechayaAlta Hard to say right now. Typically the LG/GM cells have done really well when it comes to durability and longevity (once the Bolt issue was fixed). Cold weather is pretty universal across the board. I'm skeptical about SS packs happening in the near future but that's me.
Ridiculously expensive. GM actually expects to sell a bunch of these?!?
Can we talk about the elephant in the room? Tesla is asking $120k for the current loaded Founder’s Edition of the Cybertruck. What are you getting for $25k more? One could argue FSD has more capability across all roads. And you get access to Tesla’s superior Supercharger network. Otherwise?
The Chevy seems to have a lot more flexibility in cargo carrying, and the massive battery nets you far more range. If you want to go as far in the CT, add another $16k to the CT price to get the range extender - eventually - and give up a massive chunk of your bed. Yes, the Chevy is left efficient. But I think a lot of buyers will look at price/range between Silverado and CT and see the Chevy as superior.
Too bad Chevy ditched phone integration. I think many buyers will keep GM off their list until they wise up and add that back in. Otherwise, I think Chevy nailed it, even with the price. As Tom said, they hit the sweet spot. Curious to see how much lower priced lesser models will be.
Cybertruck is stupid. Elon musk is a dick.
Weights almost 10,000 lbs for a truck
With its roller attachment, it can smooth over road surfaces.
A Chevy with all-wheel steering? That's a frightening reliably concern.
Nothing new for gm. 4 wheel steering was an option 20 or so years ago.
four and a half tons? damn, you need a truck license for this shit.
Well, good for GM for taking the time and doing it from the ground up. But 8.5K pounds? Eeek!
RIP pedestrians.
I have a 2021 6.2, Camaro 2SS 1LE Track package, and it gives me 360 miles on the highways on a full tank and premium gas. If I run out of gas in a couple of minutes, I fill my tank and continue my adventure without having to wait for hours.
Looks like a bloated Hyundai Santa Cruz
I heard GM loses money on everyone of these trucks they sell.
You didn't hear correctly
Tesla and Rivian also don't have Android Auto or Apple Carplay, but no one ever says anything about that.
Ive never owned or know anyone that has owned a GM truck without electrical issues
small sample size.
It’s a huge truck….
That is what she said.
The GM guy doesn’t understand his product - kWH, kW, Amps.. Bummer.
It is not about spending time to learn it, I want to use the system, Apple car play, I know. That must be the stupidest delete I have ever heard of. GM probably wants to share your info with insurance and credit companies. Stay away.
For the most part, there really isn’t much of a learning curve. It’s like any touchscreen interface. In someways it’s easier because the voice commands are extremely easy to use. Very natural. But you would never know unless you tried it.
Bearded GM spokesperson doesn’t know the difference between kW, kWh, and amps. I suppose I should not be surprised.
Right, I'm sure you've never misspoke.
@@DrivenCarReviews Of course, but not when I've practiced several times in advance of a company presentation. This should have been an important event for these GM people and they should have been thoroughly practiced. But, I suppose since the Ultium rollout has been a pretty big disaster so far, his lack of preparation for your interview fits well into that narrative.
TBH, kind of my bad for being in a hurry and not editing the gaffe. We’re all human. We’ve all done it, even if we don’t think we have.
I just don't understand why.
this truck put Tesla to shame, its a real truck
I dunno, a Tahoe will set you back $120,000.
so in an accident and youre in a normal ICE vehicle that doesnt weigh 8500 pds, isnt this kind of thing going to demolish a normal vehicle? and isnt this type of weight going to tear up road, guard rails etc? and who is going to being paying for the extra wear? Is the insurance going to be way more because off all that weight hitting smaller, lighter vehicles? There are a lot of ifs with these EVS, and i dont see the need for a truck this big. Everyone used to complain about the size of sedans/coupe back in the day, well this thing is bigger, and will never be used for its intended purpose. Someone will just drive this to work. Oh and the Price? Theyve got to be kidding....very few people can afford $100k for a truck...how bout some normal sized coupes and sedans? This thing wont fit in a garage or a parking space, just a stupid design for inferior feeling people that think they have something to prove..smh
Or you can get a BMW i7 with a ton more features and with luxury and quality of no other. This truck is way to expensive for what it is.
No Carplay?????? Makes no sense whatsoever. Unfortunately that's a dealbreaker.