Always remember that what ultimately matters is that BSG fix the memory leak issue that's been plaguing poor Tarky for too long. Leaking RAM usage in the high 20gbs on large maps like Streets is insane, so as I said before it's not our job to get workstation/server level amount of RAM for just one game, but BSG's job to finally fix the memory leak and other performance issues. Until then I'm not going back to playing live Tarkov. Thanks for taking the time to make the video either way Pyur, appreciate that. 🙂
No, I don’t think 32 vs 64 matters. What does matter is having an X3D chip, those are insane for tarkov. I’m seeing the 5800x3d and 7800x3d get 30-50% more FPS than 13/14900k…
Dude I just upgraded my whole pc except for my graphics card (I have a 3060, saving up money for a new card.) but I got the 7800x3d and I'm getting like 30 more frames on all maps.(like 115 fps in 1440p) It runs so much smoother than my i5 9600k ever did lmao
Depends on VRAM! When I had RTX3080 with 10GB VRAM I used a lot of RAM and I upgraded to 64GB. But than I upgraded to RTX3090 with 24GB VRAM and RAM usage went down. For example I use 22GB of VRAM on woods and 26GB of RAM.
I recently switched from 32gb 3600mhz with a i7 12700k to 32gb 6000mhz cl30 and 7800x3d. There are no stutters and frametime is insane and fps got a boost by maybe like 20-40 fps in tarkov offline. everything just feels more responsive which is night and day and fps boost in all games ive tried.
I'm completely shocked. My setup ryzen 7 5800x3d Rx 6700 xt 12 gb gddr 6, 40 gb ram 3200, having low temperatures on the cpu and gpu I get on streets 110-60 frames and even lower if I use long-range sights and AFMF 2 does not help at all when playing in 1080 and only medium textures. And at the location of the lighthouse ass fps in the area of 40 with long-range aiming. Literally a year ago everything was great
On streets at 1440p with the textures on high with 32Gigs of ram the ram usage is above 90%, I don't know if it affects performance but the system runs out of ram resources. On other maps or if lower the textures to medium, the ram usage goes below 70%.
3090, i9-10900k, 64gb of ram, no matter how high or low or varied my settings are, ingame, nvidia control panel, it doesnt matter. im always between 70-80 unless its streets. then its like 50-60
my pc would BSOD all the time during loading into streets. some troubleshooting later, i bought 64gb, never happened again. and before someone says it was faulty hardware: it happened to me on two different computers. a workaround was to increase the pagefile.. during loading into the raid you could see in the task manager how tarkov just ate all al lthe ram, and when it reached the 32gb, it would crash. performancewise it didnt make a difference
Playing PVE once last week the game started chugging the other day and I had to restart it because it was taking up 29 of my 32gb ram. Not a reason run out and upgrade because generally it's not an issue. Also imagine for PVP it's even less of an issue. Anyways my next PC will def have 64gb. Hopefully the 9800x3d and the 15900k come out soon so I can get on that.
yepp.. this confirms it my hunch. i pulled out 32 gigs just for giggles to see whether it even feels less, bc my win was using only 5g out of 64 lol. tarkov didnt mind either, and that was pre .14 patch even. it maybe had some affect on streets or when i got swarmed by scavs but other than that same ocasional laggy feel. im still on 5600x and 3070, runing about the same.ish settings as you. cannot decide between 5800x3d or going full am5 since i have almost 2 computers to sell now lmao - fix ur shht Nikita
5800x3d is a good upgrade and the 96mb of L3 does good, but i would say go am5 because the clock speeds are higher and you get that sweet ddr5. Im saying this as a 5800x3d owner with 64gb of ram.
5700X3D is best bang for the buck and still in the elite category. 7800X3D is top dawg for now, seems like 9800X3D release is imminent though according to leaks.
What should I change/improve to get decent 60 fps at least in every map?. I run Streets on 50 but it is too unstable its unplayable, havent gone to lighthouse yet, reserve works like streets sometimes. My Specs: PCU Ryzen 7 3700 x RAM 16 gb (8x2 dual) GPU GTX 1660 Super MBU TUF Gaming X570 Plus I run on low settings, LOD 1000 mts. Detail level 2.5 Great video, thanks!❤
thanks! the best bang for the buck upgrade would be to drop in a 5700X3D and add 16GB more RAM. this video should give you an idea: ua-cam.com/video/wjqKaErpmic/v-deo.html
Having a problem to decide myself between G.Skill 32GB 8000Mhz CL38, 32GB 6000Mhz CL28 or just go 64GB 6000MHz CL30. Sadly the 48GB 8000MHz arent out yet it seems. This is for a 9800X3d on a X870E btw, seems this chipset likes faster memory better then the X670E.
@@pyurologie Yeah I know, it will be the 1% top FPS and 0.1% lows you'll be chasing but still nice to get as good RAM as u can while making a whole new build anyhow :)
@@pyurologie Going in blind would you go for 64GB 6000MHz CL30 or 32GB 8000MHz CL38 then? (Both XMP) I worry all good memory kits will be sold out as soon as the CPU drops ;)
@@laggmonstret i understand. never gonna hurt going with higher rated hardware. Just for reference, I also tested secondary timings against high frequency and even "cheap" sticks with tightened secondary timings performed better than high frequency sets. RAM secondary timings comparison: ua-cam.com/video/PbK0bncyh6w/v-deo.html If I were building now, for best value I'd buy a 6000C30 set. If you just want best "rated" stuff, go with 8000 set but you may not see much improvement really
Just for Tarkov its not worth it. But given I don't reset my computer for weeks on end and have tons of windows open while gaming it feels worth it, its a tiny amount of money spent on a hw upgrade compared to buying a new cpu mb etc, its like 75$ usd here.
I upgraded from 32GB to 64GB because when on Streets or Lighthouse my machine would be at 31.8GB usage and you could feel the whole thing slow down. At times it would crash on Lighthouse, the memory usage would hit 32GB and it would BSOD. Upgraded to 64GB and no BSOD's - the machine is brand new and hardly has anything on it, and I keep the extra software to a minimum, especially while gaming. I'd rather save the ~$100, but I also don't want the game to crash.
yeah streets is insane right now, i have hope they will get it working better in future updates. Lighthouse used to run like crap too when it first came out but they managed to get it working well.
Unrelated to the ram, can we see another video of the legion go play online? Ive been looking at them for other games but this would be a seller for myself
Hola amigo ,Will there be differences between PCI 3.0 and 4.0? I have a 3070 on a b550 pci 3.0 x16 motherboard, will I have to change the board to one with pci 4.0 for tarkov or will there not be a big difference? thanks pyur!!
hola, there will be ALMOST no difference, maybe a few % at most in actual performance. Here's an X470 video from a while ago: ua-cam.com/video/n1CT0AlGwLg/v-deo.html
in tarkov, RAM speed doesn't matter for X3Ds Does RAM Speed Matter for 7800X3D After AGESA 1007b? \\ 5200 CL46 vs 6400 CL30 vs 8000 CL36: ua-cam.com/video/Ac7CogESDeY/v-deo.html Does RAM Speed Matter For The Ryzen 7000X3D Series? Escape From Tarkov DDR5 Comparison: ua-cam.com/video/3cM56RFKryQ/v-deo.html Does RAM Speed Even Matter With The AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D? Escape From Tarkov RAM Benchmark Comparison: ua-cam.com/video/N5HQcCihtrU/v-deo.html
@@pyurologie what would you recommend for 1080p I don’t wanna do 1440 but I want the best 1080p option..or am I better off just getting a card that can do 1440 and it will be better with 1080
after wasting money on buying all the top gear over the years, realized how much you don't need to spend to get the best performance. I still have all my top gear, but like to do a lot more content on the best balanced hardware setups
Litteraly performances in this game are just fucking weird, i recently i bought the pve and was playing well until the last patch, at a point that my 4090 and my 7950X was performing really good and since the last patch when i go in pve , my processor is used at nearly 10% and my 4090 at 40%, its make non sence. The percentage of use it's not good and i can see that in game, i have around 70fps in dorms. For some reasons, yesterday i just got the most weird shit... I was clearly below 80fps and i open rivaturner for seeking what's going on and look at my memory usage and saw 30000mb on 32000mb used ...
vanilla ryzens suffer without the extra cache unfortunately 5950x vs 5700X3D: ua-cam.com/video/HvWoZQwTeeo/v-deo.html 5950x vs 5800X3D: ua-cam.com/video/f3Ugn09pTWA/v-deo.html
Always remember that what ultimately matters is that BSG fix the memory leak issue that's been plaguing poor Tarky for too long. Leaking RAM usage in the high 20gbs on large maps like Streets is insane, so as I said before it's not our job to get workstation/server level amount of RAM for just one game, but BSG's job to finally fix the memory leak and other performance issues. Until then I'm not going back to playing live Tarkov.
Thanks for taking the time to make the video either way Pyur, appreciate that. 🙂
Thats like, never gonna happen
No, I don’t think 32 vs 64 matters. What does matter is having an X3D chip, those are insane for tarkov. I’m seeing the 5800x3d and 7800x3d get 30-50% more FPS than 13/14900k…
Dude I just upgraded my whole pc except for my graphics card (I have a 3060, saving up money for a new card.) but I got the 7800x3d and I'm getting like 30 more frames on all maps.(like 115 fps in 1440p) It runs so much smoother than my i5 9600k ever did lmao
fuck bro, i only have an intel motherboard, upgrading would mean i would need a new motherboard and a new cpu 😭
@@goofygamer9241 Well the good thing with switching to AMD is that ur motherboard will at least support one more gen. or even two more gen.
100% this. Just upgraded to a 7950x3D from a 5800x and it’s a wold of difference. In all larger games really (rust etc).
@@Avke92 true, i might consider switching to amd
Perfect video, short and to the point, well done dude
thanks, hope it was useful!
@@pyurologie I'd go with 32GB if it wasn't for MSFS XD
This, this is why I love this channel. Good work boss. 👍 😊🧐
thank you!
The age old question! Great video, Pyurologie!
heh, it always comes up. 32 is still the way to go imo! thanks for checking it out!
Finally a great test, thanks Pyu!
yw, thank you for checking it out!
Depends on VRAM!
When I had RTX3080 with 10GB VRAM I used a lot of RAM and I upgraded to 64GB.
But than I upgraded to RTX3090 with 24GB VRAM and RAM usage went down.
For example I use 22GB of VRAM on woods and 26GB of RAM.
Im Happy that the RAM thing becomes more and more popular. I upgraded from a 5700x and 3200(32GB) to a 5700x3D and 3600(32GB). The Increase was insane
I recently switched from 32gb 3600mhz with a i7 12700k to 32gb 6000mhz cl30 and 7800x3d. There are no stutters and frametime is insane and fps got a boost by maybe like 20-40 fps in tarkov offline. everything just feels more responsive which is night and day and fps boost in all games ive tried.
yeah from 12700k, generational jump
A nice quick and informative benchmark. 32 gb the GOAT! Going to pair the 7600x3d and 7900GRE. See y'all in Tarkov.
going to be a sick setup!!! ty!
I'm completely shocked. My setup ryzen 7 5800x3d Rx 6700 xt 12 gb gddr 6, 40 gb ram 3200, having low temperatures on the cpu and gpu I get on streets 110-60 frames and even lower if I use long-range sights and AFMF 2 does not help at all when playing in 1080 and only medium textures. And at the location of the lighthouse ass fps in the area of 40 with long-range aiming. Literally a year ago everything was great
what combination gets you to 40gb of ram?
@@m4hk4hwhat do you mean?
@@STG-h4q I'm just nitpicking it's not too serious. But ram usually comes in 8 gb sticks, so you have 16,32,64
@@m4hk4hohh, I see. I have 40 GB but, 1- 8 GB and two for 16
@@STG-h4q I'm pretty sure that doesn't work take the 8 out again
Thanks for the video!
np, thanks for checking it out!
I think it might be nice to have some video open and not get bsod after like 4 streets raids
, but it's just comfort thing.
On streets at 1440p with the textures on high with 32Gigs of ram the ram usage is above 90%, I don't know if it affects performance but the system runs out of ram resources. On other maps or if lower the textures to medium, the ram usage goes below 70%.
Well done. ❤ @2:03
ty! 😁
3090, i9-10900k, 64gb of ram, no matter how high or low or varied my settings are, ingame, nvidia control panel, it doesnt matter. im always between 70-80 unless its streets. then its like 50-60
Thats wiered. I play on an i5-4460 with an GTX 1060 6gb on medium an get ~40-60 frames excluding interchange and streets
thanks for making this video
Appreciate you watching!
@@pyurologie I ended up buying 64gb yolo
nice!!!
my pc would BSOD all the time during loading into streets. some troubleshooting later, i bought 64gb, never happened again.
and before someone says it was faulty hardware: it happened to me on two different computers.
a workaround was to increase the pagefile.. during loading into the raid you could see in the task manager how tarkov just ate all al lthe ram, and when it reached the 32gb, it would crash.
performancewise it didnt make a difference
good to know, i'll keep that in mind
Playing PVE once last week the game started chugging the other day and I had to restart it because it was taking up 29 of my 32gb ram. Not a reason run out and upgrade because generally it's not an issue. Also imagine for PVP it's even less of an issue. Anyways my next PC will def have 64gb. Hopefully the 9800x3d and the 15900k come out soon so I can get on that.
yepp.. this confirms it my hunch. i pulled out 32 gigs just for giggles to see whether it even feels less, bc my win was using only 5g out of 64 lol. tarkov didnt mind either, and that was pre .14 patch even. it maybe had some affect on streets or when i got swarmed by scavs but other than that same ocasional laggy feel. im still on 5600x and 3070, runing about the same.ish settings as you.
cannot decide between 5800x3d or going full am5 since i have almost 2 computers to sell now lmao - fix ur shht Nikita
5800x3d is a good upgrade and the 96mb of L3 does good, but i would say go am5 because the clock speeds are higher and you get that sweet ddr5. Im saying this as a 5800x3d owner with 64gb of ram.
5700X3D is best bang for the buck and still in the elite category. 7800X3D is top dawg for now, seems like 9800X3D release is imminent though according to leaks.
What should I change/improve to get decent 60 fps at least in every map?. I run Streets on 50 but it is too unstable its unplayable, havent gone to lighthouse yet, reserve works like streets sometimes.
My Specs:
PCU Ryzen 7 3700 x
RAM 16 gb (8x2 dual)
GPU GTX 1660 Super
MBU TUF Gaming X570 Plus
I run on low settings, LOD 1000 mts. Detail level 2.5
Great video, thanks!❤
thanks! the best bang for the buck upgrade would be to drop in a 5700X3D and add 16GB more RAM. this video should give you an idea: ua-cam.com/video/wjqKaErpmic/v-deo.html
@@pyurologie thanks!
Having a problem to decide myself between G.Skill 32GB 8000Mhz CL38, 32GB 6000Mhz CL28 or just go 64GB 6000MHz CL30. Sadly the 48GB 8000MHz arent out yet it seems. This is for a 9800X3d on a X870E btw, seems this chipset likes faster memory better then the X670E.
most likely RAM speed won't really affect the 9800X3D either, but it's yet to be seen.. testing coming soon
@@pyurologie Yeah I know, it will be the 1% top FPS and 0.1% lows you'll be chasing but still nice to get as good RAM as u can while making a whole new build anyhow :)
@@pyurologie Going in blind would you go for 64GB 6000MHz CL30 or 32GB 8000MHz CL38 then? (Both XMP) I worry all good memory kits will be sold out as soon as the CPU drops ;)
@@laggmonstret i understand. never gonna hurt going with higher rated hardware. Just for reference, I also tested secondary timings against high frequency and even "cheap" sticks with tightened secondary timings performed better than high frequency sets.
RAM secondary timings comparison: ua-cam.com/video/PbK0bncyh6w/v-deo.html
If I were building now, for best value I'd buy a 6000C30 set. If you just want best "rated" stuff, go with 8000 set but you may not see much improvement really
once i asked applerazor (tarkov dev) he said that you will have better performance with more ddr4 stick and more with less dd5 stick
Just for Tarkov its not worth it. But given I don't reset my computer for weeks on end and have tons of windows open while gaming it feels worth it, its a tiny amount of money spent on a hw upgrade compared to buying a new cpu mb etc, its like 75$ usd here.
I upgraded from 32GB to 64GB because when on Streets or Lighthouse my machine would be at 31.8GB usage and you could feel the whole thing slow down. At times it would crash on Lighthouse, the memory usage would hit 32GB and it would BSOD. Upgraded to 64GB and no BSOD's - the machine is brand new and hardly has anything on it, and I keep the extra software to a minimum, especially while gaming. I'd rather save the ~$100, but I also don't want the game to crash.
Do you think the rumored 32MB more 3D V-Cache of the 9800X3D will make a big FPS difference by itself?
9800X3D has the same v cache size as 7800X3D :(
@@pyurologie ah, bummer
i would just be happy to atleast get 60 fps on street :/
yeah streets is insane right now, i have hope they will get it working better in future updates. Lighthouse used to run like crap too when it first came out but they managed to get it working well.
Well said. LH was gawd awful the first year. @@pyurologieWorse than streets IMHO
great vid!
thanks so much!
This game corrupted one of my sticks in my 64 gig set and now I run 32 gig anyway. haven't noticed any difference game still runs bad lol.
Yeah, I'll go for the "therapy" option! :)
😂😂
Unrelated to the ram, can we see another video of the legion go play online? Ive been looking at them for other games but this would be a seller for myself
yeah sure i'll add more. did you see the FMF2 video i posted recently? ua-cam.com/video/Xa3WnuGj2OM/v-deo.html
32gb 6000mhz and ryzen 7 7800x3d or ryzen 7 9800x3d
64, I don’t like closing chrome tabs just because I wanna play games
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Hola amigo ,Will there be differences between PCI 3.0 and 4.0?
I have a 3070 on a b550 pci 3.0 x16 motherboard, will I have to change the board to one with pci 4.0 for tarkov or will there not be a big difference?
thanks pyur!!
hola, there will be ALMOST no difference, maybe a few % at most in actual performance. Here's an X470 video from a while ago: ua-cam.com/video/n1CT0AlGwLg/v-deo.html
I run 4090 at 3.0 with just a little loss. Trust me 3070 has no way to saturate PCIe 3.0 x16.
3800x, 32gb 3200mhz ddr4, and a 3070 and I’m lucky if I get 60fps in streets. It’s awful
Does ram speed affect x3d performance or will the cache even it out?
in tarkov, RAM speed doesn't matter for X3Ds
Does RAM Speed Matter for 7800X3D After AGESA 1007b? \\ 5200 CL46 vs 6400 CL30 vs 8000 CL36: ua-cam.com/video/Ac7CogESDeY/v-deo.html
Does RAM Speed Matter For The Ryzen 7000X3D Series? Escape From Tarkov DDR5 Comparison: ua-cam.com/video/3cM56RFKryQ/v-deo.html
Does RAM Speed Even Matter With The AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D? Escape From Tarkov RAM Benchmark Comparison: ua-cam.com/video/N5HQcCihtrU/v-deo.html
i got the 7800x3d and a 4080 64gb of ddr5 ram and i still get stutters and microstutters
can you try the steps in my optimization video? ua-cam.com/video/1eFlPlPufjc/v-deo.html
32GB if youre just playing
64GB if recording and streaming on a single pc
yeah gonna stick with my 32gb of cl30 6400mhz
heyyyy cloaked! yeah there's still no need for more than that right now!
informative
thx bro!!!
Is the rx 7800xt better than the 6950xt cause they’re the same price pretty much ?
they're pretty similar. 7800XT is much more efficient, runs cooler. 6950XT has a little more power, uses more juice. both excellent 1440 cards
@@pyurologie what would you recommend for 1080p I don’t wanna do 1440 but I want the best 1080p option..or am I better off just getting a card that can do 1440 and it will be better with 1080
Surprised that you switched from chasing top specs to value hardware.
after wasting money on buying all the top gear over the years, realized how much you don't need to spend to get the best performance. I still have all my top gear, but like to do a lot more content on the best balanced hardware setups
is this a question im too broke to understand? ive been rocking 16gb ddr4 for the past 6 wipes
got a video for you too ua-cam.com/video/81--TGdYIZk/v-deo.html, i test everything
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Well I've just gone from 32gb 5600/cl40 ram to 96gb 6600/cl32 lol
Im im usally getting anywhere from 90 to sometimes 190fps and Im rocking Ryzen 9 5900x, 4060 ti 16gb, 32gb of ram and its runs so smooth
Litteraly performances in this game are just fucking weird, i recently i bought the pve and was playing well until the last patch, at a point that my 4090 and my 7950X was performing really good and since the last patch when i go in pve , my processor is used at nearly 10% and my 4090 at 40%, its make non sence.
The percentage of use it's not good and i can see that in game, i have around 70fps in dorms. For some reasons, yesterday i just got the most weird shit... I was clearly below 80fps and i open rivaturner for seeking what's going on and look at my memory usage and saw 30000mb on 32000mb used ...
tarkov's hardware usage is very strange
i run a 5900x w a 3090 man but why does it still run like shit
@@cezar6636 i made this build 2 years ago specifically because i thought it would help run tarkov better 😂
vanilla ryzens suffer without the extra cache unfortunately
5950x vs 5700X3D: ua-cam.com/video/HvWoZQwTeeo/v-deo.html
5950x vs 5800X3D: ua-cam.com/video/f3Ugn09pTWA/v-deo.html
128 for 0.16
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Wut about 128gb
haven't even tested 128, but probably same deal. won't improve tarkov performance