Star Trek Alternate Universes (x3) Timelines
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Star Trek Triple Timeline and Two Alternative realities branching off from the primary universe of TOS and TNG. A series of temporal incursion events directly causing and creating these new timelines of The Kelvin and Strange New Worlds complete temporal events.
Map outlining how these multiverses came into fruition. Four different versions of the Constitution Class Starships and Enterprise spawning from reverse engineered temporal technology achieved through recovering future starship components and detailed sensor scan data readings.
How The Federation, Starfleet and Section 31 changed and advanced on a different path towards a new defensive nature of Starfleet exploration.
Temporal events from Star Trek First Contact Borg Sphere Arctic wreckage recovering the Hobus hypernova and red matter singularity vortex transit of Romulan Ship Narada followed by Vulcan Jellyfish timeline events.
Strange New Worlds, Kelvin Verse six types of Constitution Class Starships
Constitution Original Cruiser (TOS)
Constitution Exploration Class.(TOS)
Constitution Refit II (TOS)
Constitution Fleet Cruiser Type 1&2 (SNW)
Enterprise Dreadnought Constitution (SNW)
Constitution Command Cruiser Type 1&2 (Kelvin)
#startrek #strangenewworlds #picard #starfleet
Did you know the events of First Contact were always apart of the trek timeline? 7 of 9 referenced them in Voyager so that couldn't be a point of divergence
No they weren’t. That was one of many editing points that altered the Prime Timeline from its original configuration. They were never supposed to go back in time.
@@RedComet1701 Proof plz?
I like how discovery shows the repair robots while no other shows have much interaction with repair robots.
Tng has exocomps
cuz ST doesnt have robots besides data/Lore
@@brianberthold3118 DOT's ar cute
@@Watcher1134 no such thing as dots in star trek
@@brianberthold3118 Data and Lore are Androids, not robots.
5 time lines just of the top of my head and actually quite a few more
1. Roddenberry Time Line the OG
2. The Kelvin Timeline
3. The Disco/SNW Timeline
4. The Yesterday's Enterprise Timeline
5. The Confederation of Earth Timeline
6-????? each version of the Enterprise D from TNG S7E11 Parallels More than 285,000 versions of the Enterprise D suggests the existence of at least 285,001 timelines
Also the Terran Empire
Admiral Janeway Timeline could be another one too (Voyager returns much later)
All Good Things (Anti-Time anomaly, Romulan collapse, renewed Federation-Klingon Cold War)
Other timelines I can think of is the one possibly created after the Defiant crash lands on an M-class with an orbital anomaly, later colonized by the survivors (Kira dies early)
Archer dying early on Enterprise (devastated future Earth)
Archer incapacitated (Xindy Victory, Enterprise destroyed on the run years later)
you see hinting that stuff like this could have made less people hate disco, i like the idea, hell i theorized a long time ago st: enterprise was a sign the timeline changed
great work the art is wonderful
Keeping track of multiple timelines is not what I wanted out of Star Trek.
The Oblivion's Gate novel trilogy really is provocative. It basically laid out the case that an alternate timeline was created when the Enterprise-E traveled back to the future at the end of First Contact, and that everything that had happened since that event was never meant to be and the timeline needed to be reset. In the real world, apparently upon the announcement of Picard happening, the novelists realized that their Beta canon had strayed so far from the Alpha Canon that they needed to do a reset, so the future novels would fall in line closer to what we'll see in the future.
The books aint even canon anyway, dont really matter.
@@TheWheelman298 you completely missed the point I was making.
After Tasha yar was sent back in time to the Enterprise-C it is a very similar, but an alternate timeline - at the"prime" timeline Tasha died on Vagra III
Videos like this enrich Trek so much, thanks for making it.
One thing to add is that the “Narada” heavily modified with Borg tech by the Roman’s to make it into a warship so it was no longer just a mining ship
even enterprise doesnt happen in the original tos prime timeline - remember in voyager capt braxton and his timeship winds up in the 1960s on earth starting the computer revolution much earlier than it should have happened and there is no apparent eugenics war when the voyager crew travels to 1996 earth to fix it, but apparently the botany bay still exists. So the Eugenics wars/WWIII get pushed into the mid 21st century at that time. This happens before the enterprise E goes back to 2063 from the 24th century with the incident with the borg that further complicates the timeline and then leaves the borg wreckage in antarctica that star fleet will locate in 2152 and that along with the temporal wars just continues to create small and large changes in the prime timeline.
EXCELLENT PRESENTATION - tying in ALL versions of Trek ! Think there's a way to save Pike , help the Talis indigenous survivors AND rescue Kirk ?
I just lost half my Star Trek braincells watching this video on confusing Star Trek Timelines 😵🤯
Just a wee bit of grammar correction. The word is sphere, not spear. These words have entirely different meanings.
hey i really like how you were able to blend old trek with newer movie trek and new jj trek. if the higher ups of star trek was smart, they would use this and make good money on the 3 known dimensions cause good trek fans would love this. you got my sub sir. great video
new sub 💯👍🖖
It was very difficult for me to follow you! Paramount is copying the Marvel Cinematic Universe. You are allowing all Trek fans to have their cake and eat it too! I can live with that ! Thank you!
I liked your video if you can plz expand your 3 timeline video to explain why the federation starship are larger and highly more advanced
All its done is confuse many to the point of not to wanting to watch any more Trek of any kind. Alternate timelines are just easy outs to do whatever.
This is why I despise alternate timeline and time travel stories. It makes everything more difficult to understand. I have hated JJTREK since the 1st movie. I haven't seen the Discovery because I refuse to pay subscription fees. Put it on TV, I'll sit through ads.
Agreed, legacy characters should NEVER be recast.
Very well done
I wonder any chance for a development of Starbase Yorktown ?
1:12 you mention that the “spear”(sphere) “crashed into the planet’s southern polar region”, and “buried the wreckage beneath layers of the Antarctic ice sheet”… yet at 1:32 it clearly shows on screen “Arctic Circle, Earth “.
The Arctic Circle is in the northern hemisphere, Northern Polar Region (or North Pole as us humans would say)
Just sayin’!
ANd Picard was still a captain during the First Contacy incident, not an admiral. Please try and get the details right!
Question for my fellow nerds, I see on the timeline chart that for the Prime Timeline the heavy cruiser class has 12 ships and the Constitution class has 20. I thought it was just 12 period. Could someone please explain this to me? Much appreciated!
I think at one point in TOS, there WERE only twelve, but the number started growing because they started building more.
Now it all makes sense and you provide the proof 👍
Very cool, now if there was a way to fix the inconsistencies that happen within each episode of Nu-Trek, that would be great.
Love the Union Dropship from Battletech at 1:52
This is prime example that if a race creates warp drive/space travel, the number one order should be no time travel allowed what so ever. no arguments or excuses. Period.
Looking at the Shipward hub I thought that the Romulans and the Klingons also had a shared boarder. I can see a more militaristic and advanced starfleet outflanking and taking more of that space.
Correct. In the TOS and TNG eras the Romulans and Klingons share a long border, with the Gorn between the Klingons and the Tholians. The map in this video is very different.
The only thing of this theory that doesn’t line up in my mind is Picard ending up in the Discovery timeline. Explain how it makes sense if at the end of Picard S3 all the museum ships are the TOS timeline versions and not the bigger more advanced ships shown in Discovery.
See! I knew that the new Star Trek timeline stared after Star Trek first contact. It was all Picard's fault
It's kind of Q's fault really. He sped up contact with the Borg, when he moved the Enterprise D against that Borg Cube when they likely would have taken decades longer to have that contact.
Yes, there are two timelines: The prime timeline and the Kelvin Timeline. Everything EXCEPT the Kelvin movies are written on that assumption, and the writers of Discovery and everything that came after have piled in references to everything made prior to 2017 to back that up. My favorite example is the "Previously on Star Trek" at the beginning of the second season episode "If Memory Serves." It used clips from "The Cage" with Jeffery Hunter as Christopher Pike to set up a sequel story with Anson Mount as Christopher Pike in command of the USS Discovery. If they are not in the same timeline, why use clips from the first pilot? The only logical(!) conclusion is they are the same timeline, as this makes it simpler for the writers and the audience.
Now, I have a question: Can we please drop this? This refusal to put Discovery and SNW in the same timeline as TOS has been going for as long as Discovery has been streaming if not longer, and to say it is getting old is an understatement. After 6 years, it's been old for 5 years and 358 days. Can we drop it please? In the name of mercy?
Best theory yet on the different timelines and if you don’t like different kinds of trek, that’s their problem i’m still hoping for a fourth Kelvin timeline movie I hope they do the character of Chekov justice in it because the actor passed away RIP
I don't have a problem with it as long as people like YOU accept it's part of a Multiverse and NOT the Prime Universe which you will only be making yourself look foolish if you insist it IS.
Coz the TOS-TNG-DS9-VOY has many tiny LOOP-Timelines - the self-solutions=LOOPS and Quantum Verses - Quantumverse=Different then the figured existing timelines From DISC-KELVIN-Mirrorverse - alternate timelines = NOT quantenverse timelines in wich was worf catched
You are dead wrong. This past season on SNW, Spock said the crew complement was 200. Which is in line with the original pilot from 1964.
You have to be a trekkie to understand all that. I did get some of it, though.
The farther forward we get seeing the beautiful ships of SNW, the STUPIDER Discovery looks. I prefer to think of that show, and the ship, as some sort of parallel, messed up timeline they're somehow interacting with.
I don't like the ship but Discovery and its sister ship were test vessels specifically for Spore drives and if that drive method had worked out, they might all have been in that style instead.
OR . . . Paramount gave its precious property to horrible hacks who had no respect for the original canon and decided that they knew better and rewrote everything in their insipid woke image.
OK what I want want to know is how or who erases all the other time lines and we go back to the primary time line because I'm just sick of the Calvin time line the only time line I want is the primary time line and the time line with the iss enterprise
I am not saying this is not interesting but there is no evidence for what you are presenting.
Yes there is. It fits perfectly. There’s no evidence against it for damn sure.
Your sizes are non canonical as well. I don’t personally like modern trek but like it or not 725 m kelvin Enterprise is official, as is 450m Discoprise.
It’s all make believe so it doesn’t really matter at the end of the day but I always thought the Enterprise should be far bigger, especially to fit the interior sets, at the time the Iowa class battleships and The Big E were the biggest war ships that Matt Jeffries could conceive that could be built. They have cruise ships now much larger.
New Enterprises are fugly but the sizes work better
i lost interest in Star Trek at the beginning of Picard, because thats all the different timlines did was travel through time in trying to fix what we FFFD up made it worse. and then it was a common place for it to happen. and then no one could keep up with all the Bullshit. So as for someone (me) who was born into watching Star Trek multiple series has lost interest and is disheartened with the franchise, and wishes they would just end it and move on to something else.
It kinda sad that fans have to try and make sense of bad writing, PR and a visual reboot. Although tbh i would be all in if the powers that be just accepted it in the beginning.
Although this a problem when you do too many time travel episodes, a problem that existed before new trek.
At this point I’ve just accepted the visual reboot. I have more issues with bad writing, story and characters.
Only 2 timelines. Discovery is the same as prime. Nowhere has it ever been mentioned that it was in an alternate timeline.
Heavily inferred in SNW season 2.
The timing of World War 3/ eugenics wars has changed by decades.
@brettcooper3893 When the security officer went back in time and found a Romula officer who had made changes where Kahn was born a good 60 years after he was supposed to be.
@@londeaux the past was changed many times before that, in Voyager the technological revolution pushed everything forward and she said this was now the past.
@@everettjohnson9374 time travel in Star Trek is wonky because of so many different writers literally ignoring the rules that came before. Now (after JJ) it changes things before JJ they didn’t except for the novikov type events that were always part of the past and the audience was not aware of like the lower decks SNW crossover episode
Its 725 meters
It's very simple. The people in charge of Star Trek have said that Discovery and Strange New Worlds are part of the Prime Timeline.
They literally did an episode in SNW explaining that it ( Disco/SNW) was an alternate timeline. The Khan episode tomorrow and tomorrow
Sorry, friend, but it's NOT the PRIME Universe. It's a MULTIVERSE. PRIME Universe Trek is TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, and PICARD. Terry Matalas even drives that point home when we see the USS New Jersey is a TOS-design Constitution Class Starship.
@@2271graham not sure about PICARD being in the prime universe but I will allow it.
mostly because of the bad writing. season 2 was almost unwatchable.
@@bobg9922 , I think if you asked Terry Matalas, he would say it was.
this also invalidates Star Trek Picard as part of the prime timeline since they have discovery ships in Picard (which makes Star Trek Picard not cannon) which is what ive been saying, proving and explaining for a while now thank you for painting the clearest of pictures
Picard and Disco are all in the same timeline with TOS , TNG, etc.
The Kelvin Timeline starts in the Prime Timeline, with the change being the wormhole generated by the Red Matter, which was Spock trying to save Romulus from the Hobus supernova. That same supernova and Spock being MIA is mentioned in season 1 of Picard. The Disco-era ships being in Picard s1 can be explained as Starfleet pulling really old ships from mothballs and converting them to be colony/refugee ships for the Romulan people. While some of the stupid writing can’t be explained away, the ships can.
TL;DR is Picard is Prime Timeline
if disco was in the same timeline as TOS, TNG, etc many many things would have been vastly changed. its exactly like saying the kelvin universe is in fact the prime timeline. the guy showed they branch off the prime timeline. what invalidates Star Trek Picard is the inclusion of refit disco ships they have in it. A is the prime timeline TOS, TNG. B is the kelvin timeline/universe. C is disco. D is Picard. in D that have ships from C serving in the 24/25th century update. the inclusion of ships from C into D means that the chance of B happening would have been so vastly different. C also cant be in A because events in TOS and TNG would have also played out vastly differently. therefore C must be in its own timeline branched off of A. which makes D a retcon do to the inclusions of ships from C. if C happened before A we would have saw a vastly different TOS and TNG. prime is prime is prime.
@halfsoulkaneki1995 you're making something more complicated than it actually is. All the disco era ships fit and they don't cause any new timelines. The Kelvin timeline was a result of the red matter creating a portal that made a new timeline while the old timeline, Disco, SNW, TOS, TNG, etc all remained without being erased or overwritten. We have proof that the past can change and now those events always happened. The tos DS9 crossover overwrites the tos episode. Voyager had future tech change the past and make everything more advanced then Janeway says this is their new past. It all fits without a problem
Well that's one way to make me drag out a history book and make sure I'm in the right timeline for earth. Imagine my relief when I found out every I remembered from history class happened exactly how I remember reading it. Disco is its own branch off of the prime timeline and Picard is a retcon
Unfortunately there is only one timeline and it ended with Star Trek Enterprise. Everything after that are cheap imitations from the bargain bin. Only the results of real time travel could ever make me forget that.
so true and because of that i like this idea of that prime timeline
Discovery is set in the prime universe, sorry
I'm glad you're sorry you made that comment. Disco is not in Prime.
@@Thurgosh_OG I guess if it makes you feel getter you can believe that?! Seems odd though, when the actual people who write a make the show have said it’s the same, and that’s what everyone agrees with and accepts, and the show itself goes out of its way to demonstrate. But you can carry on thinking whatever you’d like :)
Disco and SNW are in the Prime timeline . Grow up.
Here I’ll answer it without having to make a video. Yes. Disco and SNW are in the Prime Timeline. There are currently 2 main timelines with their own branches and alternate universes. The Prime and Kelvin timelines. The Prime Timeline has been getting edited since TOS. The first time they introduced a time travel episode, it edited their timeline. And this became a trend for every series. TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT and now Disco, SNW and LD, have all edited the Prime Timeline. It’s how they’re making classic Trek more modern and in line with our own to make the technology leaps make sense.
It’s not that hard to figure out. These goddamn wannabe Trekkies who just can’t accept the fact that Discovery and SNW are still Prime Timeline are getting ridiculous with their constant need to make a try-hard explanation as to why they’re not “canon” as they love saying.