I'm skeptical that charging people more to drive their car is a sensible solution to reducing emissions. Particularly since the cost of public transport is so high in the UK.
It's a class tax. It will remove the people driving old diesels off the road who can't afford to go out and buy a brand new Euro 6 diesel. If you are wealthy you will pay the charge daily (ouch) or buy a new motor. People who really need a car in London will just go out and purchase a Euro 4 petrol. The government will then cotton on and move the goal posts.... Euro 5 petrol or you pay ulez and will up the daily charge and so on....
Rich people will just buy new compliant cars. Poor people will pay obscene taxes to the government or take on unmanageable loans to get new cars. Great idea I don't think.
It is much cheaper compared to owning a car. And it can get you anywhere in places like London or other big cities. In London probably faster then car.
It's absolutely true that scrapping lots of diesel and petrol cars and electric cars produce the same amount of CO2 as a petrol car does in its lifetime. One important thing to remember is that zones never work. The reason Euston Road\Marylebone Road are so polluted is due to people driving just on the edge of the congestion zone on that road so they don't have to pay £11.50. Congestion zone is still horribly congested. The mayor Sadiq Khan took a trip to New Delhi to figure out how to tackle pollution. I've been there before and I can say that he failed to observe their big initiative. All Delhi buses and local taxi's have been converted to run on CNG (Compressed Natural Gas). This is the kind of positive initiative the UK should be taking to tackle pollution. The problem is all down to choice of fuel. regardless of the eu standard ulez compliant vehicles and non compliant vehicles all run on petrol or diesel. Lithium for manufacturing batteries is a finite resource and is not economically viable to recycle. The best solution is methanol powered vehicles. They produce almost no pollutants at all and they produce low amounts of CO2. Using a non fossil fuel energy source, CO2 can be captured from air/industry and hydrogenated to form Methanol. The methanol can be used as fuel and end up as CO2 again. This has already been implemented in some parts of the world. A good compromise to reduce climate change and pollution. eventually methanol fuel cells will be better developed and we won't have a fuel transition problem when that happens. My point is that ULEZ and all other emissions zones are just a way for local governments to point fingers and make some revenue. Alcohol fuel adaptation is more feasible than getting every person to drive an EV and it will be more affordable to the average person. whether you drive an old car, a new car, a bicycle or you walk everywhere, everyone should be campaigning for the implementation clean fuels and relevant infrastructure and for the phasing out of the old fuels. Only then will the issue be truly resolved.
Whats worse for the environment, the scrapping of thousands of perfectly working car and the production of thousands new cars to replace them. Or using the car you already own?
Most cars have a life span of 10 years, no one is saying get a new car, they are pushing those buying new cars to choose low emissions. 20 years time, most cars will be ev6, just like most cars are ev4 now!
In Gauteng , South Africa we have more than 20 million trees planted by human hand ( literally Worlds Largest Man Made Forest ) ... and this is one major reason why the air quality in this mega metropolitan has one of the highest standards, despite millions of the cars traveling daily .... just a frisky note for those in power who are in such a hurry to implement these new draconian laws in Europe ... just saying ...
Haha and you think you it's okay to keep on going with combustion engines cuz u plant some trees? U heard of the global warming or about our ozone being damaged? The problem isn't going anywhere with by your thoughts
Yep .. agree .. however the truth is always in between ...how suddenly just for few decades we've managed to discover how harmful CO2 gases are ?! .... among the way we've managed to plant 20 million trees by hand right here in the Southern tip of Africa ... yes ...something works in Africa, mate ! ... This trees improve the air quality by absorbing massive carbon dioxide waste and produce the oxygen we breathe ... Your ironical reply sounds disparaging but my claim is a proven fact ... more trees are needed ! What next !? in few decades from now we may unexpectedly find out that on our planet Earth the forests are destroyed and the oceans so polluted that they can not photosynthesize any longer and then we may introduce new taxes to improve human life ... pathetic !
thank you sir a man who understands science/mathematics and how its used against us. they will tax you to fart before long. how much c02 does a volcano emit compared to the private sector motor car? fuck............ whats next...... you live near a volcano, guess what? you got to pay a government levy to keep the air clean in this town.......
@george oh, how great it would be if the government actually cared about planting trees instead of just pure money it works in africa cause people there arent shitheads who only care about getting a extra bit of cash
My 15 mpg V8 car is allowed in every city. But you also need to realize that CO2 emissions don't matter for our direct health (obviously it matters for climate change), because a petrol car always emits more CO2. It's the particles and NOx emissions, and a V12 supercar will still emit less of it than a small diesel. EXCEPT if it's direct injected! And a lot of new, efficient cars are (like every Volkswagen for example). Direct injected petrol engines are actually worse than standard injected petrol engines, and either Germany or France will also divide these two (for example: a standard injected engine will be allowed in their cities if it's Euro 3 and up, but a direct injected petrol will only be allowed if it's Euro 4 and up)
Thirsty when drive fast, but you definitely wouldn't believe that big-engined cars can gain much better mpg and produce much lower CO2 than a small-engined car. I remembered reading an article from a reputable source saying that cars with small engine is more environment-damaging than the one with big engine. Unfortunately, I couldn't dig the source back since I didn't save it.
And in three years time they will bring out Euro 7, after everyone has bought new cars and scrapped the old ones of course. This is a great idea to get people purchasing new cars, it has very little to do with the environment and more to do with boosting struggling new vehicle sales.
Same enjoying it thus far, but whys tiff not appearing much in it? It's kind of weird seeing Ronnie O'Sullivan as a host. He is a petrol head for sure, but I don't think he fits as a reviewer that well
@H A Only use when moving .Not parking. Buy from ebay etc . Make just ONE digit/letter slightly wrong . Then use this stuck on. Do not use street parking as you will not be able to pay etc .
Let me break the world, but I will produce less emissions with my old 4L V8 than a new Euro 6 car. I take it on a ride for 30 minutes per week, as opposed to some E6 cars, that are driven 2-3 hours per day.
A car driving for 2-3 hours will produce less emmisions than you doing 30 mins. The engine needs to be at operating temp for it to run efficiently and burn the fuel properly
konholio2 That’s always been my Argument A Euro 6 car driven around all day every day is ok, But for me to Use my 3litre ST220 twice at the weekend is a Dirty polluting beast damaging the environment. I go 60miles round trip to visit my Sister every other weekend and go to do some shopping . The rest of the time I’m cycling to work . How about measuring my Carbon Footprint overall ?
My 1968 Chevy pickup with a 7.4L gas engine is actually cheaper in inspection costs, registration and insurance than my brand new Chevy Silverado pickup. Exempt from emissions for the ‘68. Both have in excess of 420HP. The powers that be are taking a huge shit on you guys over there. Take your country back Brits! 🇺🇸 -I love the smell of unburnt hydrocarbons in the morning.
This emissions charge is bollocks. Yonks ago when they first start taxing cars on emissions, I had to register a 1973 exmod landrover for the first time after it had been demobed. I had a certificate from the mot centre that showed it was chucking out such a low amount of pollution that it should have been excempt of the higher tax. But I was still charged the higher rate because according to the government figures my landrover did not meet the new requirements, even though I had a certificate that showed otherwise.
It about driving pointless consumption. It keeps banks loaning money (we live in a debt based economy) to people who cannot buy a new car in cash and keeps manufactures cranking out cars people don't need. In a few years they'll just raise the bar higher so euro 6 will be taxed to the scrap yard. The environment is just the moral justification.
@@alierdinch4157 the environmental and economic impact is bad, so u pay more as a road user. the road tax does not count, that goes to the treasury and can be used for anything like any other tax.
I always smell the motorcycles, mopeds and scooters really much. How much are those things contributing? Plus, most of the time, they make a shitload of noise, and not the nice noise from an Aston or Ferrari and such.
Yes, they are in lesser numbers. No, I smell them when I am walking or cycling. We don't have a lot of motorcycles in The Netherlands, don't see them very often, but I do see a lot of scooters/mopeds. They are in lesser numbers than cars, but they do draw more attention to themselves due to the noise and odor they produce.
2 stroke mopeds/scooters are the ones you can really smell, it's cos of the way a 2 stroke works. You can't smell modern 4 stroke Motorcycles. And all Motorcycles have the Euro emission standards they have to meet like cars. The other big advantage of Motorcycles is that they can filter through traffic, thus reducing pollution, also Motorcycles are more fuel efficient too, so less fuel is burned compared to the average car. Motorcycles actually reduce pollution. I love the sound of Motorcycles personally, okay not mopeds, they're just hair driers lol but proper Motorcycles sound great.
What I don’t understand is my 2015 eClass e220 bluetec se isn’t ULEZ but it’s Euro 6 which is really stressing me out and I need some advice my reg is LP15 HXZ
rope hello my friend I have come with great news message tfl with your V5C document stating the NoX (nitrogen oxides) value. I have done this and they have replied and said they will update their database and my car will be allowed😄😁
A lot of Euro 3 petrol cars say "compliant" when you put the reg in to the TFL ULEZ checker, yet the TFL website is quite clear that petrol cars must be Euro 4. When TFL update their database and get it right there are going to be some very angry owners out there who thought that they had a compliant car but actually don't. Either that or they will have to let those cars in for free.
gEpWxAqd FsiDseSG It confuses me that. My vehicle is Euro 3. The TFL website says it’s Euro 4 and exempt from the currently active charges. For me it’s of little concern as I don’t live near London though.
This plan by Sadiq Khan does not makes any sense !! So a minicab driver has to pay ULEZ and CC charges from April 2019 which is a massive £24 per day !!! If they buy a ULEZ compliant car now...it may need changing again in 2021 because by then only pure electric cars will be free from the charge...BUT the car charging infrastructure is not in place to cope with the demand, so bad idea to buy electric car now... and that's a big big problem !! Plus , limited mileage of EVs means not practical for minicab drivers...it's a total mess and a badly planned idea to tackle the pollution problem in London.
They're charging anything from before 2007 (euro 3).Only fuel injection bikes are allowed. My bike's from 1990 so I found out i'll have this problem in a year or two. R1's are awesome and it's only going to be a problem if you want to ride within the congestion zone from next year (2019) or inside north and south circular from 2021. Hope this helps
It would be a good idea if other news outlets broadcast this correct info to the general public!! Why isnt this info being reported on by mainstream news channels?
Making idiots out of us . First they said buy diesel and ditch petrol and now they saying the opposite !! In London transport for London are leading this and apparently they are massively in the red .....i wonder whether them being in the red has anything to do with this £12.50 charge ?
Considering most people travel 30miles a day on average 28 miles goes a long way to reduce emissions fully electric would help more and if you have money to buy a bmw you have money to go for an ev.
Whilst I agree with public is best, most people feel that they do not wish to share a personal space! Whilst we undertake that realisation that concreting over the world so that we can put static chunks of metal on them, technology will filter down, remember when cars had no abs, no power steering, cruise control was for rich people and air conditioning was unheard off!
Real life scenario - an euro3 diesel car with 180co2 vs an euro 4 car with 250cO2 emissions. The euro 3 car dus pollutes less than the euro 4 car but the taxes are higher no matter real pollution numbers. Its all about the money.
It is man, 🤔🙁 my is euro5 now I’m in trouble 12.50£ per day is more than my bloody insurance what should I do?i do have euro 5 from 06...Conversion or something,..🙁😡 what they will do with all these huge amounts of money??? They even promote some brands 🤔 is harsh rules they force people to scrap is that good or better? Some replies will be appreciated even is.... thanks
so what about cars that dont have the same engine in it from factory...im talking about older modified cars...how can they tell? ive got an old 3 series with a lexus v8 in it so how would they know what it is
So we pay extra but the money doesn't go into making roads safer or better, nothing extra into the NHS and everything else stays shit. Welcome to Tory Britain
Euro 4 petrol, broadly speaking any petrol engined car after 2004. Job done. 14 year old petrol cars not expensive at all. Many Merc, BMW and Lexus from that era meet the standard. Could never understand why low mileage drivers bought diesel. They don't like short journeys and you just end up having trouble with the dpf. You would have to be nuts to drive in London on a regular basis anyway.
Not our fault we can't afford electric cars. The government should go for car manufacturers instead of us. They need to make affordable cheap electric cars for us
Funny how none of these low emmision plans etc don't take into account that people doing short journies and sitting in stationary traffic are the biggest cause of car pollution. The bulk of people don't get there car up to temp. I've heard of people with Euro 6 diesel cars and the Adblue tank is still full cause the engine doesn't run long enough or get hot enough to use it. Not to mention the higher chance of a Euro 6 catching fire cause of the extreme heat needed to burn the exhaust gases in the catylists
A lot of Euro cars are achieving the regulations with start stop technology that turns off the engine when stationary without and restarts at interface to the clutch.
DONT SELL YOUR MOTOR JUST YET.. DONT GO BY TFL WEBSITE FOR ULEZ CHECKER My motorbike says it's not allowed in zone but have checked my emissions on the log book V5 and is under the limit needed, Had to get a certificate of conformity from my manufacturer Triumph (which they done and posted for free) and upload it through TFL it's the NOX part of the V5 (logbook) it's near the bottom listed V.3... is the main one they go by cant remember if needs to be less than 1.5g or 0.15g you may need to do a bit of research or get in contact with your manufacturer and ask, I know mine were very helpful and done it for free but did notice some others charged.. OH just to add this was for a motorbike so the NOX part maybe different i am not sure as bikes only need to be euro3... but do a bit of research first,,,
The main thing is more money in revenue for the corrupt politicians and it keeps the less well off under the poverty line imagine you earn 300 per week and at least 60 of that has to go on getting to work most will say sod that and give up their job claim benefits
Why always bully the average to lower class off the people with this emission crap. Transportation is essential for most people to just survive and they want to punish on that. There are plenty of non essential luxury things you can hit first. The only reason why they do this is because it is the easiest thing to do and it's to keep the hippies happy because cars are the most obvious polluters and they are to dumb to look further into it
euro 6 should be the end of this circus and if they continue the central parts will become empty, its extremely unfair for the avarage people that can't afford electric cars! EU goverment is working against the citizens!
Central London should be empty except for buses taxis cycles and goods carrying vehicles, if you’re not one of them you have NO reason to drive into central london besides polluting people. Walk, cycle, or public transport into the centre instead
euro ratings are kinda bullshit... there are cars that had a euro 5 rating in 2014 and the exact same car, not renewed, sold in 2015 had a European 6 rating because that's when it got introduced. so it looks like the 2014 car is "dirtier" because you can't update your car's rating, but it emits the exact same amount of whatever that the 2015 car emits. so you could be rolling around in a Euro 4 car, that's technically as clean as a new 2018 euro 6 car
Surely you have a flux capacitor producing the requisite 1.21 Gigawatts nuclear reactor onboard to transport you to the past, or is that the back to the future II DeLorean and takes crap!
NOO... Both had flux capacitor, but the first was filled with Nuclear Rods (that's what got doc brown shot in the bullet proof vest), but upon travelling to the future, Doc returned with the modified version that was fuelled by biodegradeable rubbish.. The flux was present in both.. So simple question, does your's fly?
Well im going to get shafted by this if it expands to the North and South Circular, I will lose my families camper that is used every other weekend to get out the city plus my Motorcycle.. I saved up years to own these as I do not buy things on tick, time to jump out the UK me thinks...
Not a bad Idea. My motorcycle will be banned soon. If I pay the charge I'll exceed it's value in 16 days. also, have you seen the south circular now? It's like a car park. after the ulez zone comes in, it'll be somehow more standstill than a car park.
Like cigarettes, the more people who quit, the more expensive it becomes for those who continue to smoke, or drive diesel cars. If the government didn't increase taxes proportionately, they would see a drop in revenue, and we can't have that can we. But in tge case of cars, it is always the poorest, who are trying to keep their heads above water, who are the hardest hit.
@Crumbs Chief No one seems to care about the crippling pollution that's costing the NHS a sh1tload and lowering our cognitive ability. Entitled pricks just want to drive 3.0L cars in 12mph average traffic.
You lot dont realise that i dont drive the car often so I would release the same pollution driving my X5 once a week compared to driving a new car everyday...
EV, PHEV, traditional vehicles and hybrid vehicles all of these vehicles produce CO2 in some or the other way. For an EV to be zero emission, you have to drive it a lot of miles I mean more than 100,000 miles.
Smells like a cash grab scheme and here is why . If exhaust fumes are so bad you would have a total ban on vehicles within the zone . You would not be able to pay a charge to enter the zone
I very often come by car from Germany to London and do not understand the Benefits of LOW EMISSION ZONE. Visiting LONDON, I see many cars with lots of dark smoke coming out of there exhausts and I always ask myself, how the hell are These high pollutants allowed to drive within London ? Or maybe no one cares About this ?
Fucking hell, just go into south Africa's footsteps, plant a fuckton of trees all over the sodding European Union and don't worry so much about pollution, not only the Uk advised us to buy diesel cars as they are very efficient, now they went mental about these low emission zones... really not fair. It's impossible to be a young petrolhead these days..
The proffessor from the university isca little out of date with his information plus he did not mention the nitrogen oxides that come from gas fired central heating. He also failec to meantion that new petrol produce as much nitrogrn oxide as diesel and the cat does not deal with them
A number of studies have linked EMF exposure with serious health issues, including a possible risk of cancer, miscarriage and a higher risk of leukaemia among children. Batteries and power cables in electric and hybrid vehicles are usually placed close to the driver and passengers, meaning that prolonged exposure to electromagnetic fields is unavoidable.
Petrol hybrid cars are a waste of money & the amount of resources we spend on producing them & the amount of pollution we create from producing them, is horrendous. Stay with petrol for now until battery & hydrogen technology make significant advances. The future will probably consist of hybrid cars that are battery & hydrogen powered.
i wonder how much pollution commercial an private air traffic courses in comparison to cars? .................private owned cars, their 10% of the problem but the highest taxed based on emissions emitted per mile travelled....... all brits may aswel have an udder.....
I'm gutted I have to say goodbye to my e92 320d m sport highline :( It's going between june-september 2021. Fuck you ulez. How's comes my fuel cost me £65 full tank, and last me 3 week and 3days. I drive everyday doing 14miles everyday. So how is it really bad on emission if my full tank lasts me 3 weeks and 3days everyday drive on the A13. Now I will be Swapping for a 2019/20 audi a3 40tdi quattro Black edition. I'm avoiding 2014-18 a3. Just incase the law decides those cars are effected.
Sort the buses and lorries out before sorting the cars out... the older euro 3 buses and lorries (ones without adblue) are a huge problem... also the old London taxis with the old transit and chrysler diesel engines. How are young people like myself going to justify paying through the roof for a brand new car, when I have a perfectly good car that hasn't cost me anywhere near what a equivalent brand new model would. Fucking government
I'm skeptical that charging people more to drive their car is a sensible solution to reducing emissions. Particularly since the cost of public transport is so high in the UK.
Taxation without Representation
Sound familiar?
Privatizing the railroads was a big mistake.
It's a class tax. It will remove the people driving old diesels off the road who can't afford to go out and buy a brand new Euro 6 diesel. If you are wealthy you will pay the charge daily (ouch) or buy a new motor.
People who really need a car in London will just go out and purchase a Euro 4 petrol. The government will then cotton on and move the goal posts.... Euro 5 petrol or you pay ulez and will up the daily charge and so on....
Perhaps paying the money is penitence in which case there should be an option for drivers to self flagellate instead
Rich people will just buy new compliant cars. Poor people will pay obscene taxes to the government or take on unmanageable loans to get new cars. Great idea I don't think.
Why by a compliant car? when you can afford the fee when your rich?
It is simple - If you cant afford to drive something clean, dont drive and use public transport. Otherwise get a clean car and continue driving.
elukok public transport is expensive and cant get you everywhere !
It is much cheaper compared to owning a car. And it can get you anywhere in places like London or other big cities. In London probably faster then car.
elukok i agree about central London. But outer London, cars are better. I work outer London, and get to work quicker in car then public transport.
It's absolutely true that scrapping lots of diesel and petrol cars and electric cars produce the same amount of CO2 as a petrol car does in its lifetime. One important thing to remember is that zones never work. The reason Euston Road\Marylebone Road are so polluted is due to people driving just on the edge of the congestion zone on that road so they don't have to pay £11.50. Congestion zone is still horribly congested.
The mayor Sadiq Khan took a trip to New Delhi to figure out how to tackle pollution. I've been there before and I can say that he failed to observe their big initiative. All Delhi buses and local taxi's have been converted to run on CNG (Compressed Natural Gas). This is the kind of positive initiative the UK should be taking to tackle pollution.
The problem is all down to choice of fuel. regardless of the eu standard ulez compliant vehicles and non compliant vehicles all run on petrol or diesel. Lithium for manufacturing batteries is a finite resource and is not economically viable to recycle. The best solution is methanol powered vehicles. They produce almost no pollutants at all and they produce low amounts of CO2. Using a non fossil fuel energy source, CO2 can be captured from air/industry and hydrogenated to form Methanol. The methanol can be used as fuel and end up as CO2 again. This has already been implemented in some parts of the world. A good compromise to reduce climate change and pollution. eventually methanol fuel cells will be better developed and we won't have a fuel transition problem when that happens.
My point is that ULEZ and all other emissions zones are just a way for local governments to point fingers and make some revenue. Alcohol fuel adaptation is more feasible than getting every person to drive an EV and it will be more affordable to the average person. whether you drive an old car, a new car, a bicycle or you walk everywhere, everyone should be campaigning for the implementation clean fuels and relevant infrastructure and for the phasing out of the old fuels. Only then will the issue be truly resolved.
Whats worse for the environment, the scrapping of thousands of perfectly working car and the production of thousands new cars to replace them. Or using the car you already own?
Most cars have a life span of 10 years, no one is saying get a new car, they are pushing those buying new cars to choose low emissions. 20 years time, most cars will be ev6, just like most cars are ev4 now!
I think people buy the best they can because petrol is expensive, I don't know many people who can afford to buy a car new.
There was nearly 2.5 million new cars purchased last year. Whilst you may not know the people buying them, they exist...
@@crumbschief5628 ekhm renting them on PCP...
@@Demjan85 yup.
In Gauteng , South Africa we have more than 20 million trees planted by human hand ( literally Worlds Largest Man Made Forest ) ... and this is one major reason why the air quality in this mega metropolitan has one of the highest standards, despite millions of the cars traveling daily .... just a frisky note for those in power who are in such a hurry to implement these new draconian laws in Europe ... just saying ...
Haha and you think you it's okay to keep on going with combustion engines cuz u plant some trees? U heard of the global warming or about our ozone being damaged?
The problem isn't going anywhere with by your thoughts
Yep .. agree .. however the truth is always in between ...how suddenly just for few decades we've managed to discover how harmful CO2 gases are ?! .... among the way we've managed to plant 20 million trees by hand right here in the Southern tip of Africa ... yes ...something works in Africa, mate ! ... This trees improve the air quality by absorbing massive carbon dioxide waste and produce the oxygen we breathe ... Your ironical reply sounds disparaging but my claim is a proven fact ... more trees are needed ! What next !? in few decades from now we may unexpectedly find out that on our planet Earth the forests are destroyed and the oceans so polluted that they can not photosynthesize any longer and then we may introduce new taxes to improve human life ... pathetic !
thank you sir a man who understands science/mathematics and how its used against us. they will tax you to fart before long. how much c02 does a volcano emit compared to the private sector motor car? fuck............ whats next...... you live near a volcano, guess what? you got to pay a government levy to keep the air clean in this town.......
:)
@george
oh, how great it would be if the government actually cared about planting trees instead of just pure money
it works in africa cause people there arent shitheads who only care about getting a extra bit of cash
Maybe they should start replacing their old and crappy old busses and trains more and lower the price first so people can take public transport.
So a thirsty McLaren P1 or a LaFerrari will be exempt from taxes but an Audi 1.9 Diesel won't? Don't you just love governments...
They are clean hybrids
Or an old four stroke 125 that does 80 miles to the gallon.
My 15 mpg V8 car is allowed in every city. But you also need to realize that CO2 emissions don't matter for our direct health (obviously it matters for climate change), because a petrol car always emits more CO2. It's the particles and NOx emissions, and a V12 supercar will still emit less of it than a small diesel. EXCEPT if it's direct injected! And a lot of new, efficient cars are (like every Volkswagen for example). Direct injected petrol engines are actually worse than standard injected petrol engines, and either Germany or France will also divide these two (for example: a standard injected engine will be allowed in their cities if it's Euro 3 and up, but a direct injected petrol will only be allowed if it's Euro 4 and up)
Thirsty when drive fast, but you definitely wouldn't believe that big-engined cars can gain much better mpg and produce much lower CO2 than a small-engined car.
I remembered reading an article from a reputable source saying that cars with small engine is more environment-damaging than the one with big engine. Unfortunately, I couldn't dig the source back since I didn't save it.
the goverments especially the eu goverment is working AGAINST the avarage consumer in favour of the rich!
And in three years time they will bring out Euro 7, after everyone has bought new cars and scrapped the old ones of course. This is a great idea to get people purchasing new cars, it has very little to do with the environment and more to do with boosting struggling new vehicle sales.
New cars fucking suck
Really love this new fifth gear!
Yup
Yeap, thumbs up :)
Has tiff been put to sleep yet ?
😂😂 not yet,still kicking...whole team is back together Jason, Tiff, Jonny and Vicki
Same enjoying it thus far, but whys tiff not appearing much in it? It's kind of weird seeing Ronnie O'Sullivan as a host. He is a petrol head for sure, but I don't think he fits as a reviewer that well
Get some cloned plates knocked up. Its much cheaper
Exactly ... Many a speeding/parking fine skipped !!!!! :-)
@H A Only use when moving .Not parking. Buy from ebay etc . Make just ONE digit/letter slightly wrong . Then use this stuck on. Do not use street parking as you will not be able to pay etc .
@H A . "I had new plates made up officer and obviously they made a small mistake " fine for this is about £30 ?
@@carforumwanker how can u make is slightly wrong give us a example for a plate of km57 bfd
@@davidbenjamin9509 : KM57bfb buy from ebay .
Let me break the world, but I will produce less emissions with my old 4L V8 than a new Euro 6 car. I take it on a ride for 30 minutes per week, as opposed to some E6 cars, that are driven 2-3 hours per day.
konholio2 not necessarily the emissions is an order of magnitude your V8’s three way catalyst is not as effective as it ages.
A car driving for 2-3 hours will produce less emmisions than you doing 30 mins. The engine needs to be at operating temp for it to run efficiently and burn the fuel properly
Err.... Just err!
konholio2
That’s always been my Argument
A Euro 6 car driven around all day every day is ok, But for me to Use my 3litre ST220 twice at the weekend is a Dirty polluting beast damaging the environment.
I go 60miles round trip to visit my Sister every other weekend and go to do some shopping .
The rest of the time I’m cycling to work .
How about measuring my Carbon Footprint overall ?
@@cyclemartin4073 Exactly my thoughts!
Will my 5.3 litre V12 XJ-S will be exempt ?
Certainly! Because it's a JAAAG!
My 1968 Chevy pickup with a 7.4L gas engine is actually cheaper in inspection costs, registration and insurance than my brand new Chevy Silverado pickup. Exempt from emissions for the ‘68. Both have in excess of 420HP. The powers that be are taking a huge shit on you guys over there. Take your country back Brits! 🇺🇸
-I love the smell of unburnt hydrocarbons in the morning.
I love America land of freedom not like comunist England cash robbing basterds ,love president trump to
A Tax on those who can least afford it, well done Sadiq....
It should all be to do with mileage, including road tax, the less you drive the less you pay.
London mayor Khan has gone nuts!!! Can't wait to vote him out
This emissions charge is bollocks. Yonks ago when they first start taxing cars on emissions, I had to register a 1973 exmod landrover for the first time after it had been demobed. I had a certificate from the mot centre that showed it was chucking out such a low amount of pollution that it should have been excempt of the higher tax. But I was still charged the higher rate because according to the government figures my landrover did not meet the new requirements, even though I had a certificate that showed otherwise.
Why is their logo only 4 forward gears
HONDA RULES 5 is extra?
Because there’s an unaffordable government levy on five speed gearboxes
Because they want you to buy a new car ..with five.
omg e92 such a beautiful car
Shite
Where can I see the full episodes. I can’t get access to the channel on tv
www.questod.co.uk/show/fifth-gear if you're not from the uk you might need to use a vpn
It about driving pointless consumption.
It keeps banks loaning money (we live in a debt based economy) to people who cannot buy a new car in cash and keeps manufactures cranking out cars people don't need.
In a few years they'll just raise the bar higher so euro 6 will be taxed to the scrap yard.
The environment is just the moral justification.
In Antwerp we’ve already had a low emission zone for some time now.
Higher bus fares, higher cost of living and death of retail in Central Birmingham coming soon in 2020.
The oppressive EU idiocy, the big nanny state stealing your hard earned money.
No one is stealing your money... If youre ignorant and egoistic enough to drive in big cities: Pay for it.
we already pay for it you dick head @@raupenimmersatt6906
@@alierdinch4157 the environmental and economic impact is bad, so u pay more as a road user. the road tax does not count, that goes to the treasury and can be used for anything like any other tax.
buddy, brexit is not changing these policies in the UK.
I always smell the motorcycles, mopeds and scooters really much. How much are those things contributing? Plus, most of the time, they make a shitload of noise, and not the nice noise from an Aston or Ferrari and such.
Jog on with your witch hunt... they are fine number comparing to hgv etc. And you most probably smell then once they pass you in traffic jam...
Yes, they are in lesser numbers. No, I smell them when I am walking or cycling. We don't have a lot of motorcycles in The Netherlands, don't see them very often, but I do see a lot of scooters/mopeds.
They are in lesser numbers than cars, but they do draw more attention to themselves due to the noise and odor they produce.
2 stroke mopeds/scooters are the ones you can really smell, it's cos of the way a 2 stroke works. You can't smell modern 4 stroke Motorcycles. And all Motorcycles have the Euro emission standards they have to meet like cars. The other big advantage of Motorcycles is that they can filter through traffic, thus reducing pollution, also Motorcycles are more fuel efficient too, so less fuel is burned compared to the average car. Motorcycles actually reduce pollution. I love the sound of Motorcycles personally, okay not mopeds, they're just hair driers lol but proper Motorcycles sound great.
How big do you think the wheels on that 530 are🤔🤔 19”?
What I don’t understand is my 2015 eClass e220 bluetec se isn’t ULEZ but it’s Euro 6 which is really stressing me out and I need some advice my reg is LP15 HXZ
maaaaaaj I don’t understand how my model s doesn’t go in the ulez
rope it’s really stupid
rope hello my friend I have come with great news message tfl with your V5C document stating the NoX (nitrogen oxides) value. I have done this and they have replied and said they will update their database and my car will be allowed😄😁
A lot of Euro 3 petrol cars say "compliant" when you put the reg in to the TFL ULEZ checker, yet the TFL website is quite clear that petrol cars must be Euro 4. When TFL update their database and get it right there are going to be some very angry owners out there who thought that they had a compliant car but actually don't. Either that or they will have to let those cars in for free.
gEpWxAqd FsiDseSG It confuses me that. My vehicle is Euro 3. The TFL website says it’s Euro 4 and exempt from the currently active charges. For me it’s of little concern as I don’t live near London though.
It’s because some cars even thought produced on euro 3 era still qualify for euro 4 tests
This plan by Sadiq Khan does not makes any sense !! So a minicab driver has to pay ULEZ and CC charges from April 2019 which is a massive £24 per day !!! If they buy a ULEZ compliant car now...it may need changing again in 2021 because by then only pure electric cars will be free from the charge...BUT the car charging infrastructure is not in place to cope with the demand, so bad idea to buy electric car now... and that's a big big problem !! Plus , limited mileage of EVs means not practical for minicab drivers...it's a total mess and a badly planned idea to tackle the pollution problem in London.
How would the PHEV cars fare in this?
BMW 530e used in the article is a PHEV and not an EV, Nuff said!
How does this work with motorbikes in london?, I have a fazer 600cc from 2008 and i stop my self from buying an R1 2002 when i saw this.
They're charging anything from before 2007 (euro 3).Only fuel injection bikes are allowed. My bike's from 1990 so I found out i'll have this problem in a year or two. R1's are awesome and it's only going to be a problem if you want to ride within the congestion zone from next year (2019) or inside north and south circular from 2021. Hope this helps
@@A_S_100Amazing, thanks.
It would be a good idea if other news outlets broadcast this correct info to the general public!!
Why isnt this info being reported on by mainstream news channels?
Because MSM have an agenda to pursue
Making idiots out of us . First they said buy diesel and ditch petrol and now they saying the opposite !!
In London transport for London are leading this and apparently they are massively in the red .....i wonder whether them being in the red has anything to do with this £12.50 charge ?
Is this a new episode?
Considering most people travel 30miles a day on average 28 miles goes a long way to reduce emissions fully electric would help more and if you have money to buy a bmw you have money to go for an ev.
public transportation is the only way
Whilst I agree with public is best, most people feel that they do not wish to share a personal space! Whilst we undertake that realisation that concreting over the world so that we can put static chunks of metal on them, technology will filter down, remember when cars had no abs, no power steering, cruise control was for rich people and air conditioning was unheard off!
What if you want a BMW and not a stupid EV?
Article does not tell you to get an EV, so buy a BMW!
www.buyacar.co.uk/cars/economical-cars/low-emission-cars/921/euro-6-diesel-cars-list
No thanks I will keep my V8 for my 20 mile commute
We in belgium already has this lez lage emissie zone in English low emission zone!
Real life scenario - an euro3 diesel car with 180co2 vs an euro 4 car with 250cO2 emissions. The euro 3 car dus pollutes less than the euro 4 car but the taxes are higher no matter real pollution numbers. Its all about the money.
Adrian Echim your confusing CO2 with air pollution they are very different.
See: www.theaa.com/driving-advice/fuels-environment/euro-emissions-standards
It is man, 🤔🙁 my is euro5 now I’m in trouble 12.50£ per day is more than my bloody insurance what should I do?i do have euro 5 from 06...Conversion or something,..🙁😡 what they will do with all these huge amounts of money??? They even promote some brands 🤔 is harsh rules they force people to scrap is that good or better? Some replies will be appreciated even is.... thanks
so what about cars that dont have the same engine in it from factory...im talking about older modified cars...how can they tell? ive got an old 3 series with a lexus v8 in it so how would they know what it is
They know because you're supposed to notify the DVLA when you change to a different engine.
actually your not, you only have to tell your insurance companies.
Very informative vid.
Is fith gear really back?!
Are they also going to make smoking ilegal in ultra low pollution zones?
properly , and there gonna target people who fart a lot ,like there trying to top us from drink milk and eating beef because its producing methane gas
goverment tells people to buy cleaner diesel cars.People find out that they are filthy.New laws tax diesel cars the most
So we pay extra but the money doesn't go into making roads safer or better, nothing extra into the NHS and everything else stays shit. Welcome to Tory Britain
Euro 4 petrol, broadly speaking any petrol engined car after 2004. Job done. 14 year old petrol cars not expensive at all. Many Merc, BMW and Lexus from that era meet the standard.
Could never understand why low mileage drivers bought diesel. They don't like short journeys and you just end up having trouble with the dpf.
You would have to be nuts to drive in London on a regular basis anyway.
Good for all the eastern euro cars that will skip the charge ! I can see a huge rise in fake reg plates. magnetic and stuck on before entering etc
witt this efect the toxic london taxi cabs?
Obviously yes
Not our fault we can't afford electric cars. The government should go for car manufacturers instead of us. They need to make affordable cheap electric cars for us
Funny how none of these low emmision plans etc don't take into account that people doing short journies and sitting in stationary traffic are the biggest cause of car pollution. The bulk of people don't get there car up to temp.
I've heard of people with Euro 6 diesel cars and the Adblue tank is still full cause the engine doesn't run long enough or get hot enough to use it. Not to mention the higher chance of a Euro 6 catching fire cause of the extreme heat needed to burn the exhaust gases in the catylists
A lot of Euro cars are achieving the regulations with start stop technology that turns off the engine when stationary without and restarts at interface to the clutch.
45,000£ for the hybrid BMW? Thats breaking even after four years of commenting into London and now you’ll have a new exempt car
DONT SELL YOUR MOTOR JUST YET..
DONT GO BY TFL WEBSITE FOR ULEZ CHECKER
My motorbike says it's not allowed in zone but have checked my emissions on the log book V5 and is under the limit needed, Had to get a certificate of conformity from my manufacturer Triumph (which they done and posted for free) and upload it through TFL
it's the NOX part of the V5 (logbook) it's near the bottom listed V.3... is the main one they go by cant remember if needs to be less than 1.5g or 0.15g you may need to do a bit of research or get in contact with your manufacturer and ask, I know mine were very helpful and done it for free but did notice some others charged..
OH just to add this was for a motorbike so the NOX part maybe different i am not sure as bikes only need to be euro3...
but do a bit of research first,,,
Is the council doing anything about it 😂😂
YES EMPTYING YOUR POCKETS BY INSTALLING MORE CCTV's CAMERAS TO ISSUE FIXED PENALTY CHARGES................
Why dont they encourage ppl to keep cars running well and long instead of brilliant wastefulness of suddenly feeling the need to get a new one...
Because it polluted
BUT. THE GOOD OLD BLACK TAXI , WILL BE EXEMPT. But. For how long?
i own a i6 diesel car, cant wait till that law comes to my country, im gonna buy a big v8 petrol to save the ambient
Then once everyone has a euro 4 petrol car and the government/council are not making any money they will move it to euro 5.
The main thing is more money in revenue for the corrupt politicians and it keeps the less well off under the poverty line imagine you earn 300 per week and at least 60 of that has to go on getting to work most will say sod that and give up their job claim benefits
Those driving Euro 4 petrol-powered Micra, 207, Toyota Yariss and Mitsubishi Colt will be smirking in silence
Why always bully the average to lower class off the people with this emission crap. Transportation is essential for most people to just survive and they want to punish on that. There are plenty of non essential luxury things you can hit first. The only reason why they do this is because it is the easiest thing to do and it's to keep the hippies happy because cars are the most obvious polluters and they are to dumb to look further into it
Is this charge just a bid to keep British people out of the Mayor's London?
euro 6 should be the end of this circus and if they continue the central parts will become empty, its extremely unfair for the avarage people that can't afford electric cars! EU goverment is working against the citizens!
Central London should be empty except for buses taxis cycles and goods carrying vehicles, if you’re not one of them you have NO reason to drive into central london besides polluting people.
Walk, cycle, or public transport into the centre instead
What do we not pay enough road tax as it is then lol
I want this to be implemented in the US
What about LPG?
Perfect video👍
jason is the new quentin
What if you luve in the ulez??
Spanish John It’s great I can live without being polluted by your crappy diesels
euro ratings are kinda bullshit... there are cars that had a euro 5 rating in 2014 and the exact same car, not renewed, sold in 2015 had a European 6 rating because that's when it got introduced. so it looks like the 2014 car is "dirtier" because you can't update your car's rating, but it emits the exact same amount of whatever that the 2015 car emits.
so you could be rolling around in a Euro 4 car, that's technically as clean as a new 2018 euro 6 car
I am moving out of UK with my ride. Even though I don't own a diesel.
Surely you have a flux capacitor producing the requisite 1.21 Gigawatts nuclear reactor onboard to transport you to the past, or is that the back to the future II DeLorean and takes crap!
@@crumbschief5628 it's the flux capacitor. 😁😂
NOO... Both had flux capacitor, but the first was filled with Nuclear Rods (that's what got doc brown shot in the bullet proof vest), but upon travelling to the future, Doc returned with the modified version that was fuelled by biodegradeable rubbish.. The flux was present in both.. So simple question, does your's fly?
@@crumbschief5628 Yeah it does fly. Want a ride? 😁
I saw what happened to McFly... Looks like effort! I'll stay with the ICE land vehicle for now!
Well im going to get shafted by this if it expands to the North and South Circular, I will lose my families camper that is used every other weekend to get out the city plus my Motorcycle.. I saved up years to own these as I do not buy things on tick, time to jump out the UK me thinks...
Not a bad Idea. My motorcycle will be banned soon. If I pay the charge I'll exceed it's value in 16 days. also, have you seen the south circular now? It's like a car park. after the ulez zone comes in, it'll be somehow more standstill than a car park.
its time to protest mate enough of this communist state , telling us what to drive what to eat ,enough
Like cigarettes, the more people who quit, the more expensive it becomes for those who continue to smoke, or drive diesel cars. If the government didn't increase taxes proportionately, they would see a drop in revenue, and we can't have that can we. But in tge case of cars, it is always the poorest, who are trying to keep their heads above water, who are the hardest hit.
Don’t forget ‘historic’ vehicles are also exempt 😉
Elliot Smith Are they? I didn’t know that. Same historic as those exempt from VED and MOT?
cjeam similar, this is an exemption for all vehicles produced before 1980, the MOT exemption is on a 40 year old rolling basis.
Elliot Smith Cool. Cheers
At least make it more appealing to get a petrol. I dont get why road tax has increased on cars. Not everyone here is able to get a newer diesel car
Good look Jason!! keep on liftoff oversteering
I will only have to pay 2.50 every time i drive my 52 plate X5 as I am a resident. So its not goodbye just yet...
Yup, but you are breathing your own NOX! That's the reason why they are trying to get the NOX out of towns, have you not seen the NHS reports?
@Crumbs Chief No one seems to care about the crippling pollution that's costing the NHS a sh1tload and lowering our cognitive ability. Entitled pricks just want to drive 3.0L cars in 12mph average traffic.
You lot dont realise that i dont drive the car often so I would release the same pollution driving my X5 once a week compared to driving a new car everyday...
@@carmadnab Per mile, you are a higher polluter, it's not about hitting a quota, it's about reducing YOUR impact. Wow!
If anything im saving resources and reducing MY impact by sticking to the same car for 15 years!
4:06 bmw 530e “before the 2.0 kicks in” ???
Yeap, 530e = 2.0 turbo + electric motor
Joel Ryan dosent make sense to me,if it’s a 2.0 electric car then they should class it as a 520e not a 530e??
EV, PHEV, traditional vehicles and hybrid vehicles all of these vehicles produce CO2 in some or the other way. For an EV to be zero emission, you have to drive it a lot of miles I mean more than 100,000 miles.
Smells like a cash grab scheme and here is why .
If exhaust fumes are so bad you would have a total ban on vehicles within the zone .
You would not be able to pay a charge to enter the zone
I very often come by car from Germany to London and do not understand the Benefits of LOW EMISSION ZONE. Visiting LONDON, I see many cars with lots of dark smoke coming out of there exhausts and I always ask myself, how the hell are These high pollutants allowed to drive within London ? Or maybe no one cares About this ?
its called Exhaust fumes dummy , no we don't care so fuck off
Fucking hell, just go into south Africa's footsteps, plant a fuckton of trees all over the sodding European Union and don't worry so much about pollution, not only the Uk advised us to buy diesel cars as they are very efficient, now they went mental about these low emission zones... really not fair. It's impossible to be a young petrolhead these days..
The proffessor from the university isca little out of date with his information plus he did not mention the nitrogen oxides that come from gas fired central heating.
He also failec to meantion that new petrol produce as much nitrogrn oxide as diesel and the cat does not deal with them
A number of studies have linked EMF exposure with serious health issues, including a possible risk of cancer, miscarriage and a higher risk of leukaemia among children.
Batteries and power cables in electric and hybrid vehicles are usually placed close to the driver and passengers, meaning that prolonged exposure to electromagnetic fields is unavoidable.
This is an insanely bias piece, especially for the London ULEZ.
3.25 catalytic converters cant be used on diesels? Sorry they are being used for the past 20 years on diesels now
I Can see your dressed for the occasion
#BMWDRIVER 😂😂
Guess it’s ok for everybody to bring over some Chevrolet suburbans from america.
I love you guys
As a V12 owner this is horrible.
Petrol hybrid cars are a waste of money & the amount of resources we spend on producing them & the amount of pollution we create from producing them, is horrendous. Stay with petrol for now until battery & hydrogen technology make significant advances. The future will probably consist of hybrid cars that are battery & hydrogen powered.
Malaysia is stuck with euro 2
That sums up the problems we (humankind) faces...the UN climate warnings are too little too late . We are stuffed
WOW> that fuck anything fast then at a young age init wtf north circular is my favourite wtfff what happens if i cant afford it i am 21
I’d drive a Bmw hybrid everyday if it’s AFFORDABLE
i wonder how much pollution commercial an private air traffic courses in comparison to cars? .................private owned cars, their 10% of the problem but the highest taxed based on emissions emitted per mile travelled....... all brits may aswel have an udder.....
so pollution charges for cars is why we are leaving the E.U
I'm gutted I have to say goodbye to my e92 320d m sport highline :(
It's going between june-september 2021. Fuck you ulez.
How's comes my fuel cost me £65 full tank, and last me 3 week and 3days.
I drive everyday doing 14miles everyday. So how is it really bad on emission if my full tank lasts me 3 weeks and 3days everyday drive on the A13.
Now I will be Swapping for a 2019/20 audi a3 40tdi quattro Black edition.
I'm avoiding 2014-18 a3. Just incase the law decides those cars are effected.
Where is that money gonna go? Perhaps to things that cause pollution...
Euro 5 2009. Euro 5 2014 !! Real
Sort the buses and lorries out before sorting the cars out... the older euro 3 buses and lorries (ones without adblue) are a huge problem... also the old London taxis with the old transit and chrysler diesel engines.
How are young people like myself going to justify paying through the roof for a brand new car, when I have a perfectly good car that hasn't cost me anywhere near what a equivalent brand new model would. Fucking government
we have a Euro 1 car xDDD