NEXT NERF WILL BE SABERPHOBIA?
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Nice plays, but I noticed you use the _burst focus_ build. In the match, considering there were 4 squishy heroes, please consider playing saber with _hunter strike_magic boots_sky piercer_fleeting time_malefic roar_ and _rose gold meteor_ for maximum cd (if you use 1st lv **talent** _inspire_ [not the _inspire_ **spell** that adds lifesteal and attack speed, but the 5 cd one]) and quick re-engage times.
Sorry if I sound like a bot, but it's easier on the eyes. I recommend _flicker_ as the spell.
As a person who usually has difficulty reading. No this is NOT EASIER ON THE EYES
@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger well it's easier on |my| eyes
@@petrovicsadrian3433 You could have just... Separated this into layers?
Item Slots:
1. Hunter Strike
2. Magic Boots
3. Sky Piercer
4. Fleeting Time
5. Rose Gold Meteor
6. Malefic Roar
Use Talent Emblem Tier 1: Inspire
Battle Spell: Flicker
@leonmystique9372 yes
@leonmystique9372 i could have
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if Moonton nerf Saber , because of Hororo chan. It will be his fault
How TF does a person "watch" a comment?
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Saber never was, and never will be over powered. He doesn't deserve nerf because his team fight potential is pretty useless. Many defensive items counter Saber pretty hard. Saber is built to punish squishies who have no map awareness / terrible positioning. It's not like saber can unlimited ulti every time he gets a kill like karina or martis. All these herophobia is actually kinda stupid trend. So now all easy to play nukers are becoming phobias? Zilongphobia? Odettephobia? Helcurtphobia? At this point, this phobia trend is getting pretty old.
He can just take one enemy and die or more enemies if lucky or managed well. If he ults in a 5man he kinda pointless and weak.
argusphobia, people will waste their skill on minion and be surprised by how strong argus is on level 1
Burst type hero are the easiest to counter tbh... heroes who can sustain and deal dmg is the more overpowered one.
tbh, people in lower levels do have those phobia.. I just started rank grinding last week after my exam break and I cant believe the stupid draft pick going on in epic
He was pretty strong when the negative pen mechanic was introduced, but Moonton nerfed a lot of his stuff such as his passive and assassin emblem from then on
Do you still cover topics about game bugs?
I've recently experimented with gloo and found out that thunder belt doesn't stack with ult basic attack. Corrosion scythe also doesn't stack whole in gloo ult. I've tried putting no CD while in gloo's ult, it suddenly has a faster attack speed. It seems that, gloo's basic attack stack with CD and his basic attack while on ult isn't consider as basic attack. I really hope moonton will fix this.
Gloo's ult basic attack is considered a skill, mainly because it's part of the ult. The more cd reduction, the more faster it will be cast.
It's been like this since his first release, maybe because they did it for a reason and not an actual bug.
Gloo's attached auto attack is a skill. Try using Glowing Wand and Ice Queen Wand to maximize his attached auto attacks and also use CDR items like CoD to attack faster
Saber is mainly popular because to counter popular and meta assasins like Fanny, Hayabusa and Ling. If anything, these 3 should be nerfed, instead of Saber. Fanny deals too much damage in her ult without even maximising her passive and can be used in side lanes without buff. She's supposed to be a high risk high reward hero but with her current buffs and current state, she's more of a low risk high reward hero for the average Fanny player.
Lmao are u living in an older version? Fanny deals so much damage with her ult without maximizing her passive? What r u smoking bruh
@@sidi5eyess no, after the patch on fanny, player need to focus on mastering her cables rather than relying on ult, because the double damage glitch is removed so it is a high risk high reward hero since mastering her cables is not an easy thing to do. As a fanny main myself, i can say i dont win all the time because sometimes the enemy countered me with khufra, or they are good at invading. I can say i hate encountering fanny too but that doesnt mean ill lose everytime i encounter her, theres one time where i encountered fanny and i picked cyclops jungle and it wasnt that bad countering her, and i ended up winning.
@Zeneerz But that last sentence of yours depends on the player lol. There are more and more good Fanny players today. It's getting easier to play her once you master her cables. And the fact that she does not need a lot of mechanics in side lanes with wall spam, tells a lot. She doesn't even need blue. It's like she's a highly mobile Saber with that ult. There's no difference in before and after the patch because who would play Fanny without mastering her cables? All the Fanny that have mastered their cables had always been playingn, there's no difference. In fact, they're more dangerous now because of the buff.
@Zeneerz So just because Fanny players need to focus more on mastering their cables after the patch does not mean that she does not need a nerf on damage. If anything, it is a huge buff for Fanny players. Not forgetting to mention she can still fly after you stun her when they said they fixed that back then. Furthermore, it's not easy to find good Khufra players nowadays. Hence, the popularity on Saber, to counter Fanny and other popular meta assassins.
@Zeneerz Have you ever encountered fighter build fanny? It was really op. You can't even kill her because her mobility is very high and is usually using defensive build . She still deals so much damage because of war axe(she can deal 1000 true damage in 3 seconds).
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You can't nerf Saberphobia, otherwise he won't be viable at all
Yes
Saber? Twilight armor exists, antique cuirass exists, steel leg plates exists, Warrior boots exists, cc exists, tank jungler exists such as freddrin or akai
All those for one hero? Don't forget this is a team game. One defense item isn't enough to stop his Oneshot.
What? You expect mm and mages to equip those?😂
@@jrustnef Wind of Nature is enough. Rose Gold and Tenacity(It's usually used by mms) are enough. Warrior boots cancel out saber's passive. Tanks cc him. Tank Jungler is meta rn so that's not even out of the question. Healers exists. Overall, saber is shit unless u snowball and that's not possible in this meta.
@@Mars-td7pb they can equip leg plate
@@jrustnef just buy one of those even mm or mage just need 1 leg plate and perhaps tenacity like the other comment said to stop his 1 shot
Saber need no nerf, he already balance, buy the steel legplate and he deal 1/3 of his total damage, let alone using Dreadnought & antique
Yes , i agree
i think saber with malefic roar would overcome that, albeit barely
Saber deserters a nerf bro. His ability to one shot mm and mages make him too overpowered. For example if I am playing Layla, I will just build one antique cuirass for saber. However, saber can just build malefic roar and burst down your armor. No way I am building twilight armor, antique cuirass and steel leg plates on Layla. I am wasting 3 of my item slots and damage just to survive saber ult
@@Ambatukam-m1i because saber is meant to counter and kill squishy heroes. Even a mage or marksman do a defense build like 1 defense build. Saber can still kill you. It's not that Saber 's fault that MM and Mages gets deleted easily. It's like saying Miya and Layla should gets nerf because there late game damage is soo op and overpowered, if you're saying saber needs a nerf.
@@Ambatukam-m1i so you're gonna ignore other heroes like Eudora? Cause Saber isn't the only hero that bursts down squishy heroes
Not saberphobia but, im afraid my teammates pick him as roam not jungler. That's why everyone banned him 😅
How would they nerf him? Make his early damage gone? Like he can only one shot at level 12 and up? Seriously, Montoon is babysitting these noobs that instead of teaching them itemization they just nerf heroes that they dont know how to counter because they are braindead players. Players wont grow this way and they will continue to use mm heroes over and over again instead of learning new heroes that can counter saber or buying correct items.
For me, Saber deserves jungling buffs so that he can snowball really good
Yes , he doesn't need nerf
Why is hororo nowadays stressing on unnecessary topics???
edit: "stressing on" as in "focusing on" not literal stress lmao, I know English isn't the first language of everyone but I'm sure this was pretty basic to miscomprehend.
And why did I say that? because saber isn't overpowered hero at all, he is rarely picked in high rank, if he needs something then it should be a buff not the other way around, he's fun but not effective in team fights especially against good team
You must be a child, to call it "unnecessary". If you don't know what's going on in his life, the least you can do as a human is to show empathy, else you keep your mouth shut. Lmao
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Because it was really stressing him out
He's stressing on problems, my guy. Everybody have those, don't you?
@LivingLegend0916 Dude is probably a child with no responsibility yet. The ignorance is deafening.
they absolutely should not do anything to saber he is easily countered by items
Yes
Nah. Malefic roar and u wasted a slot. He js needs higher cd ultimate
It’s never too late! Unless you’re Saberphobia after the next nerf… then, well.. GG.🔥
Saber is used to counter Fanny, a well organized team would make Saber useless.
not just fanny, he counters all assassin junglers. But yea hes useless in teamfights
Temporal reign and flicker is a great combo for saber roam. Less early dmg but easier to chase and reposition yourself
As a tank main, Saber doesn't scare me... What scares me are idiot teammates like Retribution laners or jungle Layla. 😭
What you scared saber, that suck hero. I always happy when oponent pick saber, use jungle fighter. Fix an issued
Yes
"Our beloved Claude (M5 skin) won't shine if things are left un-nerfed!" -Montoon, probably
Every saber and miya i encounter in my team are noob damn and horroro depicting them as meta 😶
All of you guys are saying saber doesn’t need a nerf and is balanced as you guys are a saber main. Saber is actually too overpowered, his ability to snowball in the early game is already too great. he is a no brainer hero, just press ult and it is a guaranteed kill on mm or mage. Other heroes like yin, haya or ling has a lower chance to kill opponents in early as their ult can be easily counterred by spells.( vengeance, flicker, purify) On the other hand, even if you purify from saber ult, you will still receive damage and die. You also can’t use vengeance as it is airborne stun. If you think that building defensive items on mm or mage can counter saber, then you are wrong. Most mm or mage will want to focus on building attack items instead of defense items. for example, you will almost never see a Layla building antique cuirass and twilight armor just to survive saber. Most of the time, they will just build one defense item. Saber also can use malefic roar to burst your armor down and you just can’t do anything. I am not even a mm or mage main so if you think I am complaining that saber is overpowered because I keep dying to him, then you are wrong. I have tried saber a couple times and most of the time, I get at least 12 kills. His ability to reach people from a long range due to his ult is also a big problem. I hope moondog nerfs him so stop complaining.
So simple to just press ulti and kill mm or mage? If really so easy and sure kill, then why u not using it to become global top1 player in the world?
@@scenphang1125 yes why not? It is definitely possible to do that. Just keep aiming for mm in the early game and let them get underfed so that they do not destroy you in late game. Saber is really a no brainer hero that still guarantees a kill for you.
Why only possible be global 1 when saber can easily play and sure kill enemy as u said?
Or at least u prove it by become saber top 1 first?
@@scenphang1125 being top global while playing in soloq is straight up impossible. You need at the very least a trio
@@Ambatukam-m1i I get where you're coming from, but I think you're underestimating the counterplay options available against Saber. Sure, Saber is strong, but he's not unstoppable, and calling him overpowered might be a stretch.
1. Saber’s Early Game Snowballing
Yes, Saber can snowball in the early game, but that’s kind of his design. He’s an Assassin meant to target squishy heroes like marksmen and mages. If he doesn’t snowball, he falls off hard in the late game. His damage becomes less threatening as games go longer, especially when enemies build core items.
2. "No Brainer" Hero
Calling Saber a "no-brainer" hero oversimplifies things. Sure, his ultimate is easy to use, but it's also highly predictable. A good Saber player knows when to engage and when to back off. It’s not just about pressing ult and getting a free kill-timing, positioning, and decision-making play a big role, especially against teams that know how to counter him.
3. Counterplay with Spells
You mentioned other Assassins like Hayabusa, Ling, and Yin getting countered by spells like Vengeance, Flicker, or Purify. Saber can be countered too, just differently. Yes, Purify doesn’t fully negate his damage, but it removes the airborne effect, letting you reposition or get assistance from your team. Saber is vulnerable during his engage-he has to commit, which means if he’s caught after using his combo, he’s pretty much dead.
4. Building Defense Items
You’re right that marksmen and mages usually prioritize offensive items, but that’s exactly the risk they take. Saber's job is to punish squishy heroes who are out of position. If a marksman or mage refuses to build even one defensive item or stick with the team, they’re bound to get burst down. There are options like Winter Truncheon or Immortality that can save you from his ult burst. And if Saber's forced to build Malefic Roar just to counter armor, that means he's sacrificing other burst items, making him less effective overall.
5. High Range with Ult
His ultimate does have a decent range, but it’s not like he’s jumping across the map. He still needs to get close, and if you’re sticking with your team or have proper vision, he’s going to struggle. Heroes with good CC or mobility can easily punish a Saber who dives in recklessly.
Instead of nerfing Saber, it's better to focus on improving your positioning, awareness, and itemization. Saber is not broken; he's just strong in the right hands. Plenty of heroes can counter him, and with proper teamwork, he can be shut down effectively. At the end of the day, MLBB is all about strategy and adapting to your enemies, and if Saber really was as OP as you claim, he’d have a way higher ban rate in competitive play. So instead of asking for nerfs, maybe focus on adjusting your playstyle to counter him. And hey, if you’re consistently getting 12 kills as Saber, maybe it’s more about the enemies making mistakes than Saber being overpowered. Also I bet you're a marksman main or mage main to complain this much which is a common thing to happen when saber obliterated your main heroes or mostly marksman and mage. You wouldn't complain that much, I'm pretty use even a fighter, assasin or tank or roam doesn't complain much against saber and mostly marksman and mage. I wouldn't also explain this much to prove your statement is wrong against saber, that's why he doesn't need a nerf.
I am hoping that you will get what your heart desires Hororo!
zikong got nerf because of the the trend between helcurt and zilong. now saber will got nerf too? who will be next? helcurt?kadita? or perhaps hilda
Purify used to be in the game, back in the days.
Nah, Saber doesn't need any nerfs. Especially now that Fanny is rising.
This comments sections has so many geniuses😭💔💔💔
Why you focus unnecessary attention to Saber? He after long time became a little bit popular and he is already balanced. He is first assassin in the game. Just pick tanky heroes , buy defense items. If Moonton nerf Saber it will be your fault. Eudora next? Kadita? Aurora? Yin?
It’s never too late so never give up hope.
Hildaphobia next
Nah. That bitch is actually broken as hell and needs a nerf to her dmg or her HP. Idgaf. She cannot have both while have infinite amounts of shield and healing but dancing in and out a bush less than a second
Fanny should be nerf. After moonton buff her, she becomes really monster
*At least she cannot one shot anyone with 2+3 combo anymore after that "bug fix" on her ult*
@ still she CAN oneshot squishy hero.
more like "i cant master fanny so no one shud be able to, pls nerf fanny"
@@Blank-Kong2RuYe yeah yeahh
@@Blank-Kong2RuYepost-buff you don't really need to be a super pro fanny to delete the entire enemy team effortlessly, that's the problem. The tricky part with fanny has always been keeping track of her energy and the buff took that away
Problem : Saber
Nerf target : Lethal Ignition
I pick saber legend skin when I got my first legend gacha stone when lunox legend came out. Then people troll-question me why the heck i take the saber skin? Now there's not a single regret for me 😎
Man that K skin and Iori are too pretty
never too late to try, keep pushing on!
😂😂😂😂
Some peoples want to get strong saber
The others want to get saber weak 😂😂😂😂😂
Increase sabers ult cd is all that's needed
Hope not, I am still unable to Meme this character.
No nerf to saber mah boi because he is already potato and I got his legend skin after 6 years of saving up enough crystals
+++ agree
He does need
List of heroes that deserves a nerf
1. Fanny
2. Julian
3. Zhuxin
4. Karrie
5. Phoveus
6. Helcurt
7. Lolita
8. Harley
9. Nolan
10. Ruby
11. All magic damage heroes
Kerrie?layla now more dangerous then her
@@hanisrosli5484 Layla with malefic gun
@@yzmlgranolayt karrie is a short range hero lolol
*Karrie is balanced lil bro, she has a short ass range, Layla should be banned because of the new malefic gun adjustment, MF can fucking melt Squishies from a super far distance*
@@hanisrosli5484Karrie is one of the worst nightmares for tanks and she is heavily contested with Claude, Natan and Moskov as gold lane tank shredders
Simple nerf, gave him energy and Saber roam became extinct
It wont extinct, at least it has no effecting me as roam saber (i know how his energy work anyway)
@@dustyukari7059 why nerf him when fanny, miya is more of an op hero than him.
am not scare of saber ..because he is kill able..am more stressing by revamp phove by gangking still 80% he will survive 🤬
Yes . Saber doesn't need nerf
Miya: (Ulti and Run)
we need voice now in video hororo we know now your voice
Saber doesn't need nerf!
He does. Ult cd way too low
No@@RUKA_BABYMONST7R
i never like saber roam. being in my team or enemies. saber doesn't really have necesary kits to be assassin roamer. HE CAN'T OPEN MAP! HE CAN'T DISENGAGE AFTER ENTERING WAR! AND HE CAN'T AIM ENEMY'S BACKLINES IF THEIR FIGHTER AND TANK SWEEPING NEARBY BUSHES!
I hate saber roam to the core of my soul! i dont mind if he become jungler tho
Poor cyclops :(
I think eudoraphobia will be comeback too wkwkw
As a cecilion main, he is in my ban including hayabusa.
Bush nerf will hit him hard don't worry 😭
Yeah they made him a lil too op for my haya 🤣💀
I think you forgot about helcurt 😂😂😂
Which it's why I keep banning him😅
I cant even pick him he is always banned😭
I still prefer Jawhead
Such a disgusting behavior to going nuts on the internet for your personal problem, every one had they own problem, this is Getting ridicilous
Agree
hororo is a grown up and a married man, and unlike u both that are born lucky, he got a family to carry and feed but got backstabbed/betrayed, smtg u nvr experienced cuz all u both do is wasting parents money and time then proudly show everyone on the internet how uneducated u are
I understand u both are just immature rn so just to let uk this kind of behaviour in society will get to u one day
@@Blank-Kong2RuYe wdy? If you are a man, you should be ashame for posting your financial problem on the internet, disgusting behavior, his taking advantage for a views and donate
@@Blank-Kong2RuYe and im making my own money and had a lot of problem, but never cry on internet, you are aslo Ridiciluos, disgusting behavior
@@Blank-Kong2RuYe for some reason, UA-cam keep delete my coment, if he is a grown man. Why would you cry in the internet? That's for views and donate, his taking advantage of it, and im making my own money and had a lot of problem but never cry on the internet, so who's a grown man? You are also being Ridiciluos
If Miya got a nerf, saber must get one too. Hes banned all the time anyway, so if he gets a nerf, its deserved. Kinda unfair how the easiest assasin deals most dmg in the easiest and fastest way.
And no, don't comment;"jUsT pIcK tAnKy HeRoEs"
Because literally who 1st picks saber?
Buddy Miya deserves a nerf while saber doesn't. Miya in Late game to Mid game can literally be a beast or monster unlike Layla even Layla in late game is still a balance. While miya have like, insane damage? Ult purify that can be used as an escape from any cc or can be used as an ambush skill? A very high attack speed along with life steal? Also miya can build wind of nature, rose gold and sea halberd to counter many heroes? Saber is a situational hero, just use a tank heroes like fredrinn or Akai as a jungler and marksman like Brody, karrie that barely survive against saber if they have defense build on.
And if you still pick a squishy assasin like fanny, gusion or Lancelot or marksman like miya, Layla or mages like vexana, Kagura or pharsa, it's not saber 's fault if he was picked about those. Also saber was meant to counter squishy heroes not a tanky heroes, I'm pretty sure even some players use a sustain exp, tank jungler like fredrinn and Akai. And a semi-tank marksman like Brody or karrie.
"Hes banned all the time anyway" this proves u r epic or legend.
saber is trash in MG+. if he was so OP then he would be hot pick in pro play. weak arguments.
@jporob no, this proves u have never been in immortal lol. Mythical glory players only ban what others ban because they think that's meta. Immortals ban saber almost every match because he counters assasins, wich are meta right now. Really not that hard to understand. I guess ur the low rank here. LOL
Question is, why? He is bad
I hope not he ez conter
different people different opinion, soloq player find saber extremely op, people who always got someone to play with find saber will never be op (same goes to people who only play fighter)
For me, Auroraphobia is more scarier than Saberphobia due to chain freeze, heavy AoE emphasis which is great for teamfights and good burst
And major problem for Saber right now is teamfight strength, which is the main reason why playmakers like setters, Chou, Khaleed and Mathilda became fan favorite roamers
These heroes are good in squad. In solo rank it's impossible that others will follow-up your sets😅
Tried some Natalia roam with arrival, it was fun. Especially being able to manage lanes on my own, I've lost countless games to enemies backdooring.
SABERphobia is low ranks problem
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considering he'd be banned ±8/10 games i think if the nerf ever come, it'll be deserved
i don't think most people understand just by simply picking pos4 like saber or helcurt, it forces your opponent into weird/inflexible drafting
No? Just pick Tanky Heroes, What is Saber Supposed to do to Fredrinn, Barats or Akai? Lol. Tanky Exp, Tanky JG and normal tank, perfect comp tbh.
@GigaChadicusMaximus fuck up their rotation cuz none of y'all mid and mm can fight without fred now
unless ofc u're in a 5man stack
at that point nothing matters
@@GigaChadicusMaximusAgree
In low Ranks Yin is also get banned , but he also like Saber doesn't need nerf!
@@vh0629 who tf bans saber?? are you epic or some shit??
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HORORO CHAN , YOU NEED TO STOP posting about SABERphobia , he doesn't need nerf , he already balanced and don't overpowered even in low ranks!!!!!!😡🤬 ENOUGH . IF Moonton nerf Saber it will be your fault! You doesn't have any ideas , what video posting?
bro chill 💀🙏🏻
Ur everywhere commenting lol😂
Hororo got glowing wand nerfed. I hope saber too, since ur mad
Nah uh, they should just nerf Clint's damage. It can one hit squishy heroes like Saber, Miya, Layla, etc.
Skill issue. Miya layla can delete even him less than a second
Clint's DMG lowered to balance with his skills being faster now
@@Tl.2255 I know, what I‘m saying is he can ONE HIT, squishy heroes.
@@alemansprototypeguy No, you‘re probably not in a higher rank tier, if you‘re mythical immortal, you will understand what I‘m talking about.
@@RafujioruAnd still a good thing that Clint is one of my comfort picks but right now, after the ATK growth nerf, Clint doesn't need another round of DMG nerfs 😅
F you for taking saber as a roamer, to ALL doing this. First of all your team gets no sustain during team fights since the pathetic saber roamer is sitting in the back waiting to ult someone. Next you are taking the kills from the jungler or adc, the ones that should get them
F you
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