I think he's the same person throughout the series. Most of the quest descriptions regarding him makes it sound like he's bored, and seeking entertainment from the hunters. It could also be interprited as though he's preparing the hunters for some sort of calamity. Filtering out those who are worthy to take on whatever he sees coming. The magazine story indicates he wants us to know of Fatalis' existence; however, no one will listen. As much as I want to know who he is, I'm more curious about what he knows that we don't.
@@spacemegalodon5049 was it ever stated how long wyverians can live for? I always assumed it was maybe 400-500 years. If he's that old he must be like 2 inches tall
I don't know how long they normally live. I'm just guessing based on how the wyverian characters aged in mh stories 2. In that game we saw a human going from a preteen to an old man while the wyverians look exactly the same. It might not be completely accurate since that game has rajangs hatching from eggs, but it's the only thing I can think of that gives us an idea about how long their lifespan is.
@@reallycantthinkofausername487 The maximum is around 400 yeah, but they have subspecies iirc (like his immenseness). So some probably can live longer than that and still look pretty normal (as in not squeezed so much). another possibility is he’s just some humanoid that harnessed certain monster ability to become immortal. Maybe in similar way hunters used fatalis armor and slowly become consumed by it, turning into a new fatalis.
first game as in MH1 or MHG? both regional releases of MH1 have a "Wise Queen" requestor for the Wyverns of Land and Sky hunt, and there are no gaps in the internal item list in mh1 or mhg like mh2 has
The fact that he's able to put the quests he does and get them accepted by the guild definitely means the guild knows who he is and has some respect for him.
"Can you slay a teostra so i can touch its paws?" "Hey i wanna make plushies out of a nargacuga so can you kill 2 for me?" "My boyfriend said a khezu's neck isn't long, i'll show him long" Guild: "yes"
Freaking "it's me again" looking for inspiration. Fr though, its probably just the guild allowing it as its a way to kill 2 birds with one stone and not have to pay as much
Scarlet Mystery Man could be not a person but a group like the "merry men", whose members are placed globally to properly track down dangerous monsters.
I can see how some people might suggest the Scarlet Man just be Dante jumping franchises looking for trouble. He's actually done that multiple times in other games.
While not as profoundly mysterious as the Scarlet Mystery Man another interesting reoccurring client in MH is the Fire Nation Princess. Her people believe a volcano is their god and whenever it becomes active it is their god becoming angry. However, she knows it's a monster activity causing the increase in volconic activity and personally asks the Guild for help. If I recall correctly I think one of the quest descriptions it implied she could have been sacrificed at one point to appease the god. There is also a brother and sister pair who are royalty who are in constant competition to one up each other. E.g they are in a fishing competition so the Princess asks you to hunt a Lavasioth. They appeared in FU and 4U and maybe Gen/GenU but I could be wrong. There is also fashion designer who likes Neoptereon parts in his fashion who appeared in 4U and Gen. There is also a spoiled princess who had appeared a few times who asks you to hunt monsters so that she can make articles of clothing like Rajang fur gloves and to Hypnocratice to make some sort of necklace
I remember the Spoiled Princess, in 4U there was a quest to fight a Savage Jho and Furious Rajang at the same time and the quest description was her bassically saying "you always do these ridiculously dangerous things for me, lets see how loyal you are with this quest"
The fashion designer one is really cool considering that the bnahabra "armor" is just a vest, pants, and a top hat. So it'd make sense if the design for that armor came from him
I think some of these aren't canon since the guild seems to be very strict about when you are allowed to hunt a monster to the point they execute hunters for unauthorized hunting. Them allowing quests where you hunt for sport or someone wanting some fur seems very out of character
Such an interesting character, and we don't even know what he looks like. My personal theory is that there is a secret resistance against the guild, and the Scarlet Mystery man is a mole inside the guild. In MHWI, when you take on the Alatreon quest, they mention that the guild burned all the records of Alatreon because they feared that information going public. My guess is this secret resistance is potentially survivors of the Schrade incident (or descendants of survivors) and they're not happy that the Guild is trying to just cover it up and move on. The Scarlet Mystery Man is finding the strongest hunters and potentially recruiting them (You never hear about any of your previous hunters or their feats in the next game). A more cryptic factor is that he might have some sixth sense of foresight or getting visions of the future, and he's seeing a great calamity that no one is prepared for. And this resistance wants to make the black dragons public knowledge in the hopes that more people will stand against the calamity and the guild.
I've never considered that. At most, you will hear of "a great hunter", referring to past player characters, but ONLY from people who knew them directly (village chiefs, smithies, the Caravaneer, etc). Outside of this, I don't recall so much as a whisper of the deeds of the other hunters...
That would be an interesting secret plot in the entire MH franchise. It does make sense in an narrative perspective. That they might just want people to know when the Guild burned records. Like... Why would they burn the records? Knowledge is power and I think this Scarlet Man knows it. So they want people to know and learn, then improve. They have to rise above. Probably better than the previous generations or the previous civilizations.
My theory is kinda like yours, but instead it's a secret black ops division of sorts of the hunter's guild, which is why they're one of the few with knowledge of the black dragons, I mean, it makes sense tbh, the guild wouldnt just post quests from people actively working against them. it's main reason for being formed is to hire elite hunters (I.e the saphire star of MHW) solely to make sure the most dangerous monsters are kept in an endangered state to make sure the world isnt doomed from having too many of them, or in some cases straight exterminating them, I mean, 2 of SMM's (abbreviating scarlet mystery man to just SMM to save time) most frequent monsters for their quests is alatreon and fatalis, as for the different personalities, I believe it is because operatives under the black ops division go under the identity of SMM, I mean it sure would be an issue for people under this black ops division to ACTIVELY use their actual names, as for why they potentially don't show up in world? I think it's because people where starting to get suspicious, so they had to go into hiding, or were more focussed on something MORE DANGEROUS than fatalis, as for some of the quests that make no sense for the goal I mentioned (I,e the best of the best) ? I believe it's how they recruit hunters to this black ops division
Scarlet Mystery Man was always one of my favorite MH Charachters, even if he only appeared in Quest Descriptions. The idea that theres this stranger who post quests to hunters fight the most powerful, apocalypse causing level monsters and treating these encounters as joyful events to the point he describes hunters fighting Fatalis as a "ballroom dance" was always something that got me thinking as a kid. And if you read into the Lore, the Scarlet Mystery Man has been around since before the original Fatalis attack on Schrade Castle and told Schrade about Fatalis 1 month before it attacked but they didnt believe him
definitely isn't a single person Feels like some cryptic organisation older than the idea of hunting itself dedicated to handling world ending threats and finding the right hunters to slay them
@@kitchengun1175 you remember how Raiden has a council with the gods in Mortal Kombat? I think the scarlet mystery man is a part of some divine council that foresees dangers and have the hunters try to best the black dragons.
Scarlet mystery man being a first wyverian would make sense. His quests reminds me of the first wyverian in the Ancient Forrest who tests your skills to see if you're worthy of taking on Zorah Magdaros.
The theory of an Old wyverian that might be a Hunter himself that somehow can resonate with Fatalis makes sense. He did not warn the King about Fatalis because he got the info, he resonated with Fatalis saw what was coming and warned everybody about "the Black Dragon" and no one took him seriously. If he did not show up in the new world because most people require very special permissions to do so and now I don't remember if he appeared in Rise descriptions but if he didn't it means he maybe just moves around the central continent. And since wyverian lifespan is not defined they are the "elves" of monster hunter, he could be some a wyverian that maybe has extra long lifespan.
My thoughts of scarlet mystery man's absence in world and ice borne, is because he is not in the new world. So maybe he has no knowledge about the new world as of that time.
For me, the strangest thing about Scarlet Mystery Man is when he says he 'prepares' or 'arranges' certain quests. Sure, the 2 Rajang quests make some sense. The guild captures Monsters for Arena fights all the time, so why can't he? But... He says he arranges fights between the Hunters and Elder Dragons... That can't be possible. Nobody can just control where an Elder Dragon will arrive. Especially not those like Fatalis or Alatreon. If he just predicts where they'll be, that makes sense, but then why choose such specific wording?
I mean, you could say the Guild arranges quests. Arraging could just mean he funds the quest. While I don't believe he's just some guy, there is a natural explanation for such phrasing.
I find it funny how everyone tries to give an "in-verse" explanation that makes him up to be an actual character we may eventually meet rather than the obvious route as he is simply an easter egg character. The Scarlet Mystery Man has all possible hints of being either the devil or a demon: He's , lived for hundreds of years, he is obscure yet knowledged on topics the guild is completly on the dark about, he speaks poetically and even in some level of reverence when he speaks of the black dragons, he sends you to fight against only the hardest monsters out there, beast royalty if you will, he speaks of the black dragons as "those feared even by the gods" or "those feared by the heavens", and he either speaks of these quests as if they were trials of survival, or events of upmost importance and exelence, such as dances with royalty. So, he's a seemingly inmortal, seemingly knowing of the obscure guy, who speaks elegantly, sends you on "hellish" quests against the "kings of beasts" an speaks about creatures that "scare gods and heaven" as if they were figures of importance in a ball/dance while what they are is basically a fight to the death. With all these in mind, it seems obvious that he is the devil or a demon at least, and his presence being used to just send u on the hardest quest the devs can think of seems like just a playful easter egg, after all high difficulties in games can often bear the tittles of "hellish" or "demonic". This would also explain why he disappeared in MHW onwards, before MHW the franchise was rather niche and World's entire purpose as a game was to bringford the series into the mainstream, with this mysterious character being used as a meere wink that the quest will be hard yet having enough mystery behind it to have people thinking he may eventually be part of one of the game's story or the over all lore it makes sense for Capcom to simply remove him, since he was never meant to be more than a lil easter egg.
you do realize monster hunter guild still operates on a standard fantasy guild system where someone goes there and says "got this monster causing trouble" "I need certain amount of this plant/shrooms/etc". Scarlet Mystery Man is a literal man that shows up to the guild saying there is a black dragon somewhere or even making use of the guild arena for the Rajang quest
@@goth-_-880 you do realise you wrote a whole ass nothingburger that disproves nothing of what i said? and even did so incorrectly by starting with a question yet never leaving the mark? seriously what even is your point?
@@goth-_-880 @countcrocodile1115 has a point. You disproved nothing of what he said. ALSO they are all just theories anyways, so what's the harm in guessing a little bit. :/
It is semmingly conveneient that we always loose information on dangerous monsters whenever they appear. Like, the dialogue just before Alatreon in MHW, if I remember. The books containing more information on Alatreon are said be "suddenly" burnt for "no reason".
I like the idea of Fatalis turning into a human, seeking the strongest hunter and pitting them against strong monsters to test them and challenging them after, so when Fatalis is slain a hunter will make armor out of it and turn into Fatalis with time, becoming a new strong vessel for the dragon. 100% not smth Capcom would do and probably not smth we want to be true, but hey at least it sounds cool and ties some bits of interesting lore together 😅
On that "Fatalis in human form", what if its not so literal? The Scarlet Mystery Man could be a member of a cult who worships the black dragons and that's why he gives missions to the hunters - to prepare them as offerings to the Black Dragons. Because only the strongest could sate them and their desire for a challenge. If the hunter wins, then it is because the Black Dragon saw someone worthy of their 'blessing' (armour and weapons) and thus prevents the destruction the dragon would have caused seeking out their challenge on their own. If one sees him/them as a cult who seeks to keep their dark god *sealed* through sacrifices, then I think his actions make a bit more sense. And thus, the Scarlet Man is their seer/prophet, i.e. the one who can tell if the dragons are awakening.
My first thought after watching this video is, maybe the scarlet mystery man is a wyverian, maybe a higher up in the guild, who has much information about all this dangerous monster (either through resonate or other kind of information gathering), but can't really put out the info because it'll stir the world to chaos. So the easiest thing to do is to put out a quest as this mysterious man, so the information will be scattered throughout the world, but also will get picked up by hunters who also curious about all of this. This also help masking his trail for common folk as "this crazy dude putting crazy quest" by mixing up fantastical, made up word with actual facts. People, or even hunters will shrug and laugh it off after seeing "i prepared 2 rajang for you". This also explain why there are a lot of "red dressed" person in the lore, all of it is the same person with different alias. Even so, why go though all the hassle? Maybe because the "self important people" third fleet master mentioned prevented all this kind of info to get out into the public, hence the alias and the misdirection. I know all of this is reaching and none have any basis or actual explanation. Hell, maybe the devs don't even think it that much. But man theorizing is fun.
I like the idea of him being like, His Immenseness's right hand man, the EDOT's expert scout for finding the right hunters to slay the things nobody else can know about
Personally I'd like to think he's dopeing using elder dragon blood in order to stay immortal. The reason he gives out his quest is to scout strong hunters and pit them against elders to get his next fix.
Another thing is that he may be trying to get super powers from the horns of these dragons. To do something like a secret guild experiment giving humans and wyverians powers for the next calamity.
I think the scarlet mystery man is a veteran hunter turned guild knight. Being a guild knight, let alone a veteran hunter, it would make sense that he would know about the black dragons, probably even slayed one. As for why he has these quests he makes for us, I think it is because he is tasked with finding hunters that the guild thinks can combat those crazy powerful monsters.
If Scarlet Mystery Man did have successors....what if they were the player? it could explain the vast knowledge of the rare species monsters as well as the slightly different wording for the quests given in each game (some sounding as if he's preparing the player hunter, others sounding as if he's annoyed/wants to challenge the player hunter etc.) the player hunter being able to survive and complete the quests could be a "rite of passage" so to speak, narrowing down those who'd be worthy of being passed the red cloak. Tis but a thought :Oc Very cool video though! It was very interesting to listen and watch! I had forgotten how much lore was in the games hahaa :'''D
That would also mean that canonically every hunter who has managed to save the village in an MH game is a guy, because there's no scarlet mystery woman
@@reallycantthinkofausername487 That is assuming that "man" here is actually referring to a male and not simply a "human". An individual wrapped in scarlet robes stops by the Guild Gal and drops by a mysterious note with a request...
my thoughts are the same he would be stopped by the guild members if a suspicious man in red shows up in guild and gave information about black dragons he could be a very well known retired skilled hunter or maybe the player is canonically in game but it's like legend of zelda all players are using the same Link but with different name and appearance just for the sake of giving reason to who the mystery man is but of course that still doesn't explain how and when he discover those monster because as we know assuming the mystery man is the Player, He is a Human
@@DDracee if this were the case, if every player did take over the mantle of the scarlet mystery man, they more than likely act in the way that their predecessors did in order to make it seem like it's the same person.
I think it’s more plausible that the scarlet mystery man is actually not just one man, but a group of people: The guild knights. I could definitely imagine these people having access to information such as this, and relaying it to our characters because they know that we can handle it. But realistically its probably just a joke character made to mess with us lol
From what I've gathered, the guild knights wouldn't be seen as mysterious. They have incredibly recognizable, ostentatious outfit, and while some are secret agents, there are a large amount posted as elite city guards. Also the guild labeling their own members as "mystery men" is a bit silly
@@jokig Group with power and authority being cagey about the identities, goals, and influence of it's highest ranking members? Seems pretty normal to me. Just because they're recognizable in public doesn't mean they want their every move to be stated outright
@@mapler90210 I do get that, but if it were the guild knights and they did want to meep things obscure, they'd have covered it up much better than giving them even the description of "scarlet mystery man". If they are the guild knights trying to be secretive, they'd be doing a shit job if they *asked* to be identified to that degree
It probably started as just an easter egg for people to find out but when your player base loves a character like that you usually expand upon it... With him disappearing completely it probably is a sign they already had something way bigger planned and him vanishing is part of the setup... So, there's a good chance his story changed around quite a bit internally as they realized how many people loved the mysterious character.
So you know how some quests in MHW are given by an unnamed guy who's "name" is stuff like "hey, it's me!" , "it's me again!" , etc. Perhaps he is the scarlet mystery man
I mean I have heard some theories with some basis around Fatalis being able to take human form, also taking into account the whole ”wearing fatalis armor turns you into a fatalis” thing. Also some people interpret (myself included) White Fatalis as not as inherently hostile towards humanity as opposed to it’s other versions. Rather that White Fatalis is searching for a worthy adversary to take it down and finally end its life. Also the scarlet mystery man talks alot about the moon in the quest descriptions and what does White Fatalis do in its fight? Blocks out the sun with the moon which gives it some link to the moon. Also while I understand the theory of him being crimson fatalis, Crimson and Scarlet are two different kinds of red, Crimson being more fiery red while Scarlet a bit more neutral red… kinda the same color as White Fatalis red details. My take on him is that he could be White Fatalis following the hunters journey to see if they are worthy to take him on or just more ”foolish” hunters that he will crush like bugs
While this does clash with the whole thing about him warning the old king about fatalis. Perhaps the scarlet man warning the king was in fact not fatalis but seeing as he survived the calamity he could have come in contact with fatalis later on where fatalis could have donned the persona afterwards. But it’s just a theory
Hey, I looked through the rise sunbreak quests and the event quest 'forbidden waltz' appears similar to how the scarlet man speaks, "The august assault of two fiery wyverns is a beautiful sight to behold, indeed. Any valiant warriors out there that can best their incandescent dance shall receive a gift: materials to craft some layered armor"
The theory of him passing his robe down could also be supported by the slight differences in quests and language in the quest descriptions, because if your translations are correct you see little things like one says he he he at the end where one starts with hee hee hee, and one describes alatreon as feared by the gods and one says feared by the very heavens, and then one calls it a dance and one calls it the ball, just a neat idea
It seems to me that the scarlet mystery man isn't a individual, it's a group of people. Maybe a cult of some sort. After all the personality of the quest descriptions he gives seems to be different all the time, sometimes just slightly but sometimes by a lot. Sometimes they are chalanging you, sometimes they are training you, and sometimes they seem to simply enjoy sending you on quests. And he also seems to be at the different locations at the same time. It also seems like they are trying to prepare the hunters for something. For what? Maybe fatalis, or something we don't know of yet, since they seem to know more then the guild. That's just my take of it though.
In monster hunter online there is a mention of a man dressed in scarlet who elders dragons seem to avoid that’s evidence enough to say hell no this guy is bad news
I feel like the Furious Rajang duo fight in MHW titled "Mighty Muscle Monkey Madness" may be given by Scarlet Mystery Man. The client for the quest just says "It's me..." so I feel like it's eluding to something of that nature.
It sounds like an intentional call back specially because of the Rajang duo, as if we came full circle. I wouldn't rule out as that quest being SMM, he's simply acting even more anonymous. Of course, this is just speculation.
I love this kinda of lore videos and in game lore it's so dame epic and yet creepy and scary not knowing who this guy is and why he's asking us to hunt such powerful monsters
Sometimes I wonder if Egg Mafia are somehow related with Scarlet Mystery Man. Prolly some branch of followers, not unlike mysterious group mentioned by 3rd Fleet Master? Or maybe they're being used for since the goals are somewhat aligned? While the whole egg questline is a joke, it still lead to the birth of Crimson Fatalis.
I love how this is most likely just a cute little easter egg or connection the developers like to put in the game, like an inside joke among the team, and my man acts like at the bottom of this "mystery" we are goint to find a dead body
There is a reoccuring theme in Mythology about creatures of great power taking the forms of humans. Take the race of beings known As wyverians, for example. A fusion of Human, and Wyvern... they had to start from somewhere... Perhaps an Ancient Elder Dragon, taking the form of a human, helped humanity by being part of the formation of the guild or perhaps by creating the race of Long Lived Wyverians?
I know this may sound stupid, but my personal theory is that it's just Capcom referencing Akuma. Now while it's out there Capcom has done Akuma time traveling to alternate hyper-ancient history with Asura, and his canon reality jumping to be the real Akuma manifested in copy universes in mobile games. Akuma also shows interest in the strong who's to say he wasn't out here just bodying monster in alt timelines going to the main MH universe and reporting about it (it may answer why he's only reported on by aperance not having a Guild id n such) and may be why we don't hear about him anymore since he's finally defeated
I like this one. Akuma wants more powerful warriors to fight, so he sends in these quests in this universe to ensure the growth of any hunters who have the courage to take on the challenge. If they eventually become strong enough to body a near-god, they might be good enough to unleash a fraction of his true power upon.
In mhfu there is a quest from, if im remember correctly "The Lady in the white dress" and it turns out its a white fatalis quest... Now I raised a question,"Did the white fatalis CAN shape Shifting??!!"
As far as I know the guild isn't the central government. Most kings, queens, provisional armies, and countries have been mentioned such as in the parasol bowgun description
Yes but the guild holds the most power. Also as other ppl in the comments have mentioned, the guy is most likely a Schrade descendant. If that's true, then his quests make a lot of sense. The guild f*cked over the people of Schrade hard. Imagine an organization wiping out your peoples history. We know this is true because freedom unite and I believe it was either tri or gu that confirmed it. Freedom unite especially. The guild really made the whole world forget about Schrade.
@@borponoida9161 where Is this mentioned? Most places in the Games never mention being actually ran by the guild outside of the obvious. As far as we know the guild doesn't have an army
@@angellara7040 It's sprinkled throughout the series. Also a lot of info can be gained from a special book Capcom released that also showed the ancient dragon weapons that old humans used to subjugate dragon's with. Also Schrade was basically the last stand of old humanity before faralis ruined it. Fun fact the reason for the evil descriptions of fatalis gear is due to the fact that fatalis would smelt humans onto its body mimicking hunters. I always found that cool in a messed up way.
@@borponoida9161 Jesus christ. That's an artbook in a section about rejected concepts back when the game was similar to what would be something like dark souls. Fatalis isn't even mentioned in the elder dragon war
It's almost certainly just quests given by the founders of the guild to the very best hunters with potential to rival the black dragons. The guild doesn't want the general public to know about the black dragons, and doesn't want even the best hunters to know the guilds link or history with them. So they give the quests under the pseudonym Scarlet mystery man, which is just a reference to the legend of the man who warned the ancient civilization of the black dragons.
My personal theory: there are multiple scarlet men. They've known much about these mysterious monsters through possibly ancient texts exclusive to their community. The talk of old gods possibly implies a religious motivation for their actions, luring foolish hunters in battles stacked against them.
What about this theory: The Scarlet Mystery Man was actually the "canon" character, or generalized character, hence why he/she is a "mystery man". Due to the term "man" being widely generalized or can be an umbrella term for person or human, this allows for the "Scarlet Mystery Man" to also theoretically be a female as well. What I mean by "generalized character" is this: in every monster hunter game, you rise to be the strongest monster hunter for that time, and if the "Scarlet Mystery Man" is actually multiple people with it being passed down, it could make logical sense that after the completion of each game, when they move to the next one, its actually the character from the previous game, or one of their own chosen successors. The information may also be in a hidden location somewhere in the Monster Hunter World that of which only the Successor and Succeeded knows about. After the events of lets say the first game of Monster Hunter, the "player" character may become the successor. The Succeeded "Scarlet Mystery Man" passes down the information about Fatalis to this successor and deems them the next "Scarlet Mystery." There could also be a cult like following of the original Scarlet Mystery Man with his original works/research to keep track of Fatalis and the other Black Dragons. This could make sense because of the audio found in MHW as shown in this video. For all intents and purposes, they could be trying to help hunters reach their strongest and that is when that player's character then gets invited to join the following of the Scarlet Mystery Man. These Theory are only based off of loose evidence, but like everyone else knows, there is no soldi evidence of who this person, or people, are. So anything can go, and I would love to see more discussion on this and more information provided from CapCom about this matter. Hopefully they bring Scarlet Mystery Man back in the 2025 Monster Hunter Wilds with some more information and possible Lore about this unique character.
Actually, now that you mention it, the colour of end game armour icons is.. usually red. They refer to Fatalis fights as "Dances" and what more are every Monster battle than a curious form of dancing?
Yo, you said that in Monster Hunter World the Mystery Scarlet Man does not show. Welp, in Iceborn, at the Event quests, there is one about defeating 2 Furious Rajans, and the client is "Its me..." What if he was the Scarlet Man?
@@95DreadLord i checked it once again, and behind that quest, there is another one similar to this one, but its killing 2 regular rajans, from a client named "Thanks for your help"
I went and looked at the quest after reading this comment and I don't think it's the mystery man. There are multiple events with a client having similar names like Heyo! its me. In the quest descriptions this person always mentions the inspiration they get from the hunters doing the quests. They don't match at all with the way the scarlet man talks and to me sound like a developer having fun with various event quests. I know I'm about 2 weeks late to this comment but a part of me wanted to share this info if you didn't know. Maybe he does not show up in world/iceborne because he never went to the new world.
The fact that there's DMC collab in World would be a funny reason why he doesn't give quests, lol. Like, imagine the guy being too busy KILLING dragons instead of sending someone else.
I like the idea of the Scarlet Mystery Man being a sort of litch/undying fella, who exists as long as super powerful monsters do; he begs mighty hunters, then, to defeat them to help him hasten to his rest.
I have some news about scarlet mystery man. You see in the first begging section of mh4u that's basically teaching you how to play there is a guy named casavanner whos the capita of the ship you wake up on, and what dose he have, that's right scarlet cloak and scarlet hat with a red feather in it, he also sparks the same way as scarlet mystery man.
My tinfoil hat just got done with the crackpipe theory is that Scarlett Mystery man is a person dedicated to testing the absolute limits of hunters diving further in further into madness as his dialogue become more grandeur. After the hunter completes these intense quests, the mystery man harvests the remains in order to Frankenstein the ultimate monster to challenge the hunters. In short EQUAL DRAGON WEAPON BABY I WILL NEVER GIVE OUT HOPE
I think that The Scarlet Robed Man is a descendant of the Schrade peoples. Wyverian most likely, who's lineage is specifically linked to these powerful monsters, Fatalis most of all. They probably formed the guild in order to take back their home, and to stop the same calamity from happening again by fostering powerful, demi-god like warriors by forging them in the stressful fights that he pits them against.
What if instead of a single individual the scarlet mystery man is a code name for an organization within the guild that researches the black dragons and keeps tabs on their and other rare species' movements and their job is to find the hunters strong enough to take on black dragons throughout the world and the quests are sent through that part of the guild instead of the main part of the guild and the moniker is there to make you think it's just a single person when it's not I might just be over thinking it but it's fun to speculate over cause I'd like to imagine the guild isn't really telling us everything that they know about these monsters and there must be some reason for it
I think I know whom this mystery man is. Who remembers the creation myth from Monster Hunter World? About the dragons whom created time, the sea, the lands, and everything else? In it, a young man traveled by sea to see why the dragons created everything. He returned to his people with the scales of the dragons then vanished without a trace. He could be that same young man, watching over the events of the MH universe since the very beginning of time itself.
My guess is that he is a wyverian and apart of some kind of secret society also it could just be me but if I was to guess this societies base of operations I’d say it’s in the tower region or possibly the yukumo/kamura region just because of the amount quests relating to that area (I say yukumo/kamura because I heard some where that the two villages are in close vicinity) and involve a “celebration” but that’s just a guess on my end
im pretty sure he is mentioned on monster hunter world, its not him requesting it but a palico if im not wrong, its either on the high rank quests or the master rank quests on the events, its on the arena, the client mentions of an old legend of a men who would wear only red and would also only hunt red monsters, and if you could make the legend be true by killing the monsters on the arena
18:00 It's interesting 3rd Fleet Master had a conversation about burning stuff with clearly superstitious people, since the Alatreon Quest Assignment Cutscene mentions people burned all the documents about Alatreon and yet the Commission is eager to make new documents about them in lue of that.
I also have another theory that’s kind of an add on to another. What if the Scarlet Mystery Man, being multiple people in generations, is actually a secret agency a bit like the Harpers from D&D. The Scarlet Mystery Man per generation goes to the Kingdoms of the MH verse and warns kingdoms of disasters and also gathers strong hunters to get rid of calamities around the world before they even begin. Like destroying Fatalis, White Fatalis, Crimson Fatalis, and Alatreon.
I think a human villain in a monster hunter game would be quite cool. It’s never really been explored in main games. I never knew about this! Instant subscription 💙
My theory based on what you've presented: The Scarlet Mystery Man is potentially more than one person. But not just any individual; someone gifted in tracking, surveying black dragons. A gift to go unnoticed by their awareness, to sense, follow and locate their positions. The purpose of the prerequisite quests are not just a challenge; they serve to weed out the weak, and reckless hunters from the strongest, wisest, and most cunning hunters, because it is those hunters who possess the best chances to survive, if not, slay the black dragons. When you consider that Fatalis decimated an entire Kingdom, it makes sense to only seek the best hunters. These aren't ordinary Elder Dragons; they are malicious beings that destroy everyone and everything, acutely aware of the devastation they cause. They have no equals, thus, they can upset the balance of nature with little to no opposition, not even from Deviljhos. Death to all, mercy to none. If no one rises to slay them, it will be these dragons that will lay waste to the world. And to ensure someone does come, they have to be made. The natural desire to seek challenge, to grow stronger, is what would ultimately drive them.
I remember this dude’s quests from back in the day, and I thought even then he was a dragon in human form. With sunrise, a human suffering from resonance makes more sense now. Their strange speech patterns even sound alike.
okay so this may be a stretch but this sounds all too familiar. In Dungeons and Dragons ancient true dragons can actually transform into humans as a spell known as Shape Changer, since DnD has been around since before Monster Hunter it's very possible that the Scarlet Mystery Man is actually a monster in disguise.
I think his association with red might be sorta symbolic. He’s like a matador holding up the red sheet to over zealous hunters, causing them to bull rush into the most difficult quests in the game.
27:16 Dragonhide X (MHFU Black Fatalis Armor) description: "Wearers can feel the pulse of Fatalis and are said to have terrible nightmares." The description of other parts also say that if the hunter wears it for too long they may die. If the armor is pulsing it (Black Fatalis) maybe still alive in some way, is Scarlet Mistery Man killed a Crimson Fatty and weared it's armor, the monster could have taken possession of the man. (Not saying that I believe this, but I don't think the theory is completely incoherent)
Guesses: He is the secret head of the guild, possibly a full-blooded Wyverian. He's the Caravaneer from 4U, or related in some way. There are multiple 'Scarlet Mystery Man' people, and each carries the lore forward, but the organization/person is limited to the Old World. He is/was some kind of prophet, and delivered/wrote the quests a long time ago, only to be shared with a hunter/hunter(s) with specific qualities.
He seems to be taking the same kind of role as the serpents hand in scp lore. Both are very secretive and amking efforts to gradually reveal more about something that a large organization wants kept under wraps. The scarlet mystery man is making his move by slowly showing more and more powerful hunters these impossible creatures and testing them by making them hunt said monsters. Its likely hes gathering the strongest hunters out there so he can make more bold moves. Not much can be done to a guy who has some of the strongest people in the world on his side. This makes the guild acting against him much more difficult. Kinda like the serpents hand and their base of operations which is an anomaly that hides itself so well the foundation cant even start tracking them, making acting against them impossible.
Regardless of who or what he turns out to be, narratively I could see him as some sort of chronicler/dandelion character who summarizes the era of hunters themselves, telling the story that the guild itself would keep under wraps if all is said and done. I would also really like to see a connection of humans and wyverians in the first great war and the creation of the black dragon, him functioning as a sort of inbetween (not because it is realistic but because it would be such a cool storyshift to unveil some secret mystery as a gameworld changing event.) And what I also always hope for is that we get some more tales of the first hunters. Appearently, compared to todays hunters, they were almost a different breed altogether, going by the information we have from Unite which was quite heavily referenced here. But I could also simply see him as a nice little secret that never pays off because the series is never gonna end anyways.
ok so personal theory but in the new sunbreak dlc for rise the quest for gore magala is given by a “black armored hunter” which could mean there are multiple of these mystery men and they could be a cult/group of some sorts
I think scarlet mystery man created the guild to protect people from the disaster of fatalis, he trains those he thinks worthy with challenges and when calamity occurs, he informs the hunter as to where to get to fatalis. He passes the crimson fatalis clothes and mantle to the hunter who then becomes the next generation of scarlet mystery man who trains/informs the next generation And there is a different version of SMM from each respected area and game, it explains how he recognises there's different songs the old SMM passes on the songs given by the other generations which all lived in different areas to the new person The reason he doesn't handle it himself is because he is too old to do so or something. Would also explain the different ways he presents himself in different games, just some generations SMM are more unhinged than others or they make reference to the humour of the previous one which would make sense if SMM is a hunter that received his quest previous
What if it is like a "Fairy Tail" or " Dragonslayer Mage" type thing. Where a Dragon transforms into a Human shape and teaches how to kill Dragons and other Monsters by forming a Guild to provide the Tools for those hunts.
I have a theory that might put most of these theories together. I think Scarlet Mystery Man (let's call it Scarlet) existed as a Wyverian 1,000 years ago, warned the kingdom as mentioned in the video, but when they didn't believe him, he created THE GUILD that hunts monsters along with the few survivors of said kingdom (assuming there are). Then, as time went by, the first MH title was released and right there he encountered the one who did the impossible, slay dragons that are a terror of legends. A feat that only he, the hunter (you), could do? And by the end of the series, he recruits you to become the next Scarlet after you retire from hunting in order to prepare future hunters for the next calamity that will follow? This will explain Scarlet's extensive knowledge of the monsters because he already encountered them before as the hunter from previous titles continuing the cycle. This would also explain his authority from the guild because they know he's the previous hunter that did the impossible, looking for the next hunter who would do the same. Which is why they let him post such ridiculous quests. TL;DR There was an original Scarlet who was succeded by the first hunter and is now a moniker for the previous hunters (you) from the previous MH titles.
Feel like he is specificaly getting you to kill breeding pairs of monsters 2rajang 2gravios. All 3 rath pairs And then the big dragon quests are just like. Logic dont let the enviroment be destroyed He obviously has a lot of reasearch done and spends a lot of tine observing
I imagine he's a wyverian, for his long life, maybe, somewhat related to the first wyverian in mh world, a opposite, more bombastic and insane version of him. Where the first wyvernian wants you to prove, and hunt these big pillars, the scarlet wants you to capitulate the horrors of monster, and prove what a hunters worth, can peak at.
Yeah its absolutely a reference to Dante. He even overlooked the event quest in MHW called Code:Red that directly alludes to him. I don't think its some deep secret lore thing its just an Easter egg reference to their other game series.
@@kyleochoa9004But isn't Code: Red is requested by Stylish Red Fiver? Is it really possible that this Scarlet Mystery Man is also 5th fleet hunter? Does the jp text have different description from the english description.
What I really love about characters like this, is that everyone comes to a differen't conclusion, depending on their own understanding of the lore and their interpretation of the MH World. Many say that he is a Wyverian, the founder of the guild that distributes quests to test hunters for the biggest challenges that humanity can face and sends them to defeat those challenges. Sometimes he is someone who resonates with powerful elder dragons, trying his best to warn the public and maybe going mad because of the connection and because of the lifes he couldn't safe. Othertimes he is group of people, inside or outside the guild that want to gather the strongest hunters, either to keep the secrets of the guild while dealing with certain black dragons or because the guild would otherwise be ignorant of certain doom He may be a deity or devil(may cry), someone from a different world, a hunter about to become a fatalis or even an elder dragon in human form. Maybe he just is a nod from the developers saying: here are hard quests. I love that, if you take what the game tells you about a fatalis, for example, as the truth, the man could be an old hunter, slowly becoming a fatalis and growing mad. But can Fatalis really come back from the Grave and take over whoever killed it? I don't know and you probably don't know it either 100% certain. The games descriptions often steer into folklorerish teritory, especially with elders/black dragons. So yoj need to decide for yourself, how much you take as written, and what you take a tale, made to cope with unimaginable horror and loss. Between the phylogenetic trees, bio energy and having "absolutely no magic" there was, and still is, a large part of mysticism in MH. There is always something left vague or unexplained, like how exactly elders work. While most normal monsters are explained relatively well, most elders feats still seem highly unplausible without magic. I do think that, if you really tried to fit everything together, you could do so relatively easily with bio energy. Why are hunters so strong? They are always exposed to bio energy, so they grow stronger. Why can Kushala control wind? Because the bio energy reacts that way. How do the vial weapons work? They absorb bio energy. Whiel I feel that it coudl be an interesting project to explain everything in MH, I fear it would have the same effect as the mediclorians. Taking away the interesting questions of the setting, that you must answer yourself without a clear right or wrong. This generell openess of the setting, plus the huge number of questions this Scarlet Mystery Man existing brings up make a very intersting and cool little mystery, no matter on which side of the "The SMM is a group inside the guild that seeks strong hunters because ..." "The SMM is an elder dragon in human form that seeks strong hunters because ..." Axis you personally sit. I truly hope that he is in every future game, still giving the hardest quests with vague descriptions, but I sincerely hope that this scarlet veil is never completely lifted, that we are always left guessing and theorizing.
That's what the Fatalis armor does to people if they wear it (lore). But since he's the scarlet man guy, maybe he is wearing the red/crimson Fatalis armor and that armor is making him loose his sanity
Perhaps he's somewhere between all 3. A Wyverian who's resonating with powerful monsters and is able to basically predict the future. He may live a very long time as a Wyverian, but he's not immortal. Likely what happens is he chooses a successor or successors forming a sort of cult of individuals who can resonate with powerful monsters and thus spread the forewarnings about the impending events and/or dangers, also explaining the variations in the song. The boredom? Well, with knowledge of the future, he knows what's going to happen already. That's kind of boring. They're likely wanting to see an unpredictable outcome by setting up slay/repel quests for Hunters to take on. There's also no fun in predicting and preventing a chaotic end-of-the-world fight. There's also the risk a madman would try to aid the calamity incarnate, after all, it is Humans. Creation of the Guild? It's the aforementioned cult. I personally believe that it could be an unknown, hyper-intelligent monster that's sending these quests. No, not like a monster shapshifting into a human, a monster writing or influencing and controlling someone to write it down and sending it in. In all fairness, it is very much an out-there theory, but if this unknown entity is controlling someone *(or is a humanoid monster, much like the Wyverians could be considered)* they'd probably sound very bored not knowing tone when communicating with others. Fatalis has a roughly human-level malicious intelligence, showing that it can even try to mimic Hunters out of spite. Plus, it'd need to conceal its identity anyways, hence the robe/cloak. The robe/cloak could even be part of the creature, like how the Magalas use there wing-arms like a cape, or mimic humanoids like how Ahtal-Ka used various random scrap wood and metal parts to form a dragonoid mech; similarly, most Temnocerons used the skin of another creature or their own webbing to form what could be called "clothes," though this isn't mimicry as far as I can tell. It might even be the first and likely only monster that cares about non-monsters as some people would care about monsters.
There is a description in the games that hunters who wear Fatalis armor mysteriously dissapear. The theory is that the armor corrupts them and overtakes them, reviving the Fatalis or making a new one. There is also the lore of the ancient civilization and how they got destoyed in the great dragon war because of a forbidden act they commited. The forbidden act was going against nature through the use of technology and biology and making their own lifeforms and using them as bio weapons. Hundreds of dragons were needed to make the bio weapons. Now in my head cannon all of these things combine and turn into the scarlet mystery man, he is the result of one of these experiments, he is a created lifeform or a hunter from back then. With the combination of technology and biology, so the crimson fatalis armor and hunter, they made a man infused with the lifeforce of hundreds of dragons explaining his long life (Kind of like a philosopher stone in FMA) Instead of the armor slowly overtaking him, the lifeforce of the fatalis that was still in it was also incorporated into the man hence being immune to the corruption of the armor and might also explain his sense of being able to detect other stong monsters. It might also explain why the other Fatalis hates humans so much, you turned the remains of his brethren into an abomination. You could also add an extra twist to it and say that the corruption of the armor was not erased but only slowed down, which would explain why some of the quest descriptions became more and more sinister. Or maybe he's hoping to train up hunters by throwing challenges at them in the hopes of finding some that can kill him.
@@GOPKilla From the famdom: The first new life form they ever made was the Equal Dragon Weapon (Japanese イコール・ドラゴン・ウェポン), or Wyvern Machine Soldier (Japanese 竜機兵), a bio weapon. This life form required about thirty horses worth of dragons, meaning HUNDREDS of dragons were needed to make only one Equal Dragon Weapon. Also, the more blood this titan shed, the longer it would live. Not much else is known about this bio weapon, however, the Hunter's Guild has discovered one dead in a lost warehouse. As of now, they've been studying it.
@@GOPKilla I never presented it as fact, I was just theorizing and connecting it to things that already were in the lore because I thought it would be cool and interesting and because so little is known about the Scarlet man. I even say that it is my ''head cannon'' But the character is such an enigma that you could make the argument that there is no reason to not believe it either. What it all comes down to is that I was just having fun with it and your comments add nothing of value, so if someone needs to step back it's you.
Honestly, I think the theory of Scarlet Mystery Man definitely sounds as though he has connections to the dragons themselves, in some of his quests, you can read a sense of annoyance with the hunters that continue to hunt the next great challenge. If I were a creature of 1000s of years of age I would get rather annoyed that there are these lesser beings slaying my kin, and as a means to try and be rid of them, I would constantly try to feed them to greater foes so as to be rid of them for good. But then the draconic hubris kicks in and suddenly, sure these hunters keep killing my kin, but they are fascinating and I want to know more, soon I will crush them beneath my claw in due time. So perhaps his disappearance was more the fact that his hubris got him wounded or straight up killed. This no more quests from him. Now I come from a DnD perspective and the dragons of the TTRPG can in fact take human form, and they can become so enthralled by their own hubris and pride as a way to toy with the lesser beings. And when they are caught on their heels they become EXTREMELY Paranoid and enraged that the lesser beings are ACTUALLY standing a chance. This doesn’t mean Monster Hunter takes inspiration from DnD, but it is an interesting avenue to explore. That’s just my thoughts.
The SMM/scarlet mystery man is probably one of the researchers responsible for the creation of the EDW/Equal Dragon weapon, because of his staggeringly extensive knowledge on Elder Dragon lore. My guess he is part of the Ancient Civilization and he probably finally understood that the world needs balance, evident when the EDW was tipping the scale of war for the humans thus angering the Dragons of old, so my guess is that when an elder dragon starts to become too powerful or any wyverns start to disturb the local ecology, the SMM would employ the hunters to bring balance to the world.
Although it' missing the motion design part of it, you really managed to capture the feeling you get while watching a Lemmino video!! Really nice work, continue editing wish you the best :D btw if you could add the music credits in the bio it would be great!
He seems to be some kind of cultist training hunters to become powerful enough to perform rituals. Throughout the series he is giving the Gold Rathian and Silver Rathalos quests and he talks about blood and stuff in them, it is like he wants to sacrifice the blood of strong hunters in order to Summon these black dragons, fighting these mystical beings could be some kind of ritual in itselve. It seems like he dissappeared after achieving some kind of goal, he seems to be knowing what he is doing. What that goal was we don't know. I hope we will find out in the future. Maybe meet this guy or even fight him. Also it is very creepy how his song about fatalis is being sung by a lot of people including children. It could be some kind of religious spell.
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I think he's the same person throughout the series. Most of the quest descriptions regarding him makes it sound like he's bored, and seeking entertainment from the hunters. It could also be interprited as though he's preparing the hunters for some sort of calamity. Filtering out those who are worthy to take on whatever he sees coming. The magazine story indicates he wants us to know of Fatalis' existence; however, no one will listen. As much as I want to know who he is, I'm more curious about what he knows that we don't.
I really don't like the idea of some guy living for 1,000 years
@really can't think of a username right now sorry if he is a wyverian he could live to be 1,000 years old.
@@spacemegalodon5049 was it ever stated how long wyverians can live for? I always assumed it was maybe 400-500 years. If he's that old he must be like 2 inches tall
I don't know how long they normally live. I'm just guessing based on how the wyverian characters aged in mh stories 2. In that game we saw a human going from a preteen to an old man while the wyverians look exactly the same. It might not be completely accurate since that game has rajangs hatching from eggs, but it's the only thing I can think of that gives us an idea about how long their lifespan is.
@@reallycantthinkofausername487 The maximum is around 400 yeah, but they have subspecies iirc (like his immenseness). So some probably can live longer than that and still look pretty normal (as in not squeezed so much).
another possibility is he’s just some humanoid that harnessed certain monster ability to become immortal. Maybe in similar way hunters used fatalis armor and slowly become consumed by it, turning into a new fatalis.
He's apparently a cut NPC in the first game. He had a quest chain that rewarded you with the also cut "Guild Founder's Pendant"
@UCxCGN9k1JG5mOK5M1NMv8NA BannedLagiacrus mentioned it during his guest appearance on the Third Fleet Podcast.
first game as in MH1 or MHG? both regional releases of MH1 have a "Wise Queen" requestor for the Wyverns of Land and Sky hunt, and there are no gaps in the internal item list in mh1 or mhg like mh2 has
well damn
so pendant in one, earrings in another, they wanted you to get the whole set throughout these games
The fact that he's able to put the quests he does and get them accepted by the guild definitely means the guild knows who he is and has some respect for him.
"Hey i was wondering how many teeth a gore magala has so can you hunt one for me so i can count them"
Guild: "approved, we'll get a hunter on it!"
"Can you slay a teostra so i can touch its paws?"
"Hey i wanna make plushies out of a nargacuga so can you kill 2 for me?"
"My boyfriend said a khezu's neck isn't long, i'll show him long"
Guild: "yes"
@@adhdasdfroflxd123 lmao that’s true
@@adhdasdfroflxd123 True haha, still, even then he must be somewhat important, rich or something like that.
Freaking "it's me again" looking for inspiration.
Fr though, its probably just the guild allowing it as its a way to kill 2 birds with one stone and not have to pay as much
Scarlet Mystery Man could be not a person but a group like the "merry men", whose members are placed globally to properly track down dangerous monsters.
My thoughts exactly
A barbershop quartet of Scarlet mystery men
@@phantomgoblin5540 Scarletshop Quartet
That's what I was thinking, as the attitudes in the quest descriptions got very different Yukumo Village, even saying "please."
You can never expect...THE SCARLET INQUISITION!
Their chief weapon is surprise.
I can see how some people might suggest the Scarlet Man just be Dante jumping franchises looking for trouble. He's actually done that multiple times in other games.
Given the dialogue and how it would absolutely match Dante’s character progression I hate how accurate this is
And in world you can actually get dante's armor.
So you can atleast know that monster hunter world knows the legends about dante in some way
I wouldn't be surprised, he invaded SMT just to hunt down demons and the Demifiend.
@@sam-pletext8352 Palico dante is also in mh4u
@@sam-pletext8352 in an event quest lmao, notoriously not canon. Otherwise aloy and mega man would be canon.
While not as profoundly mysterious as the Scarlet Mystery Man another interesting reoccurring client in MH is the Fire Nation Princess. Her people believe a volcano is their god and whenever it becomes active it is their god becoming angry. However, she knows it's a monster activity causing the increase in volconic activity and personally asks the Guild for help. If I recall correctly I think one of the quest descriptions it implied she could have been sacrificed at one point to appease the god.
There is also a brother and sister pair who are royalty who are in constant competition to one up each other. E.g they are in a fishing competition so the Princess asks you to hunt a Lavasioth. They appeared in FU and 4U and maybe Gen/GenU but I could be wrong.
There is also fashion designer who likes Neoptereon parts in his fashion who appeared in 4U and Gen.
There is also a spoiled princess who had appeared a few times who asks you to hunt monsters so that she can make articles of clothing like Rajang fur gloves and to Hypnocratice to make some sort of necklace
I remember the Spoiled Princess, in 4U there was a quest to fight a Savage Jho and Furious Rajang at the same time and the quest description was her bassically saying "you always do these ridiculously dangerous things for me, lets see how loyal you are with this quest"
The fashion designer one is really cool considering that the bnahabra "armor" is just a vest, pants, and a top hat. So it'd make sense if the design for that armor came from him
I think some of these aren't canon since the guild seems to be very strict about when you are allowed to hunt a monster to the point they execute hunters for unauthorized hunting. Them allowing quests where you hunt for sport or someone wanting some fur seems very out of character
@@drxavier1870 'I mean as long as you pay me then I am in....'
The volcano princess thing is from the “Denizen of the Molten Deep” quest from MHTri where you fight Agnaktor
Scarlet was probably not in the new World, therefore couldnt gave requested anything from them. And for his age, he might be just an old Wyverian.
Such an interesting character, and we don't even know what he looks like. My personal theory is that there is a secret resistance against the guild, and the Scarlet Mystery man is a mole inside the guild. In MHWI, when you take on the Alatreon quest, they mention that the guild burned all the records of Alatreon because they feared that information going public.
My guess is this secret resistance is potentially survivors of the Schrade incident (or descendants of survivors) and they're not happy that the Guild is trying to just cover it up and move on. The Scarlet Mystery Man is finding the strongest hunters and potentially recruiting them (You never hear about any of your previous hunters or their feats in the next game).
A more cryptic factor is that he might have some sixth sense of foresight or getting visions of the future, and he's seeing a great calamity that no one is prepared for. And this resistance wants to make the black dragons public knowledge in the hopes that more people will stand against the calamity and the guild.
I've never considered that. At most, you will hear of "a great hunter", referring to past player characters, but ONLY from people who knew them directly (village chiefs, smithies, the Caravaneer, etc). Outside of this, I don't recall so much as a whisper of the deeds of the other hunters...
honestly this theory makes the most sense
That would be an interesting secret plot in the entire MH franchise. It does make sense in an narrative perspective. That they might just want people to know when the Guild burned records. Like... Why would they burn the records? Knowledge is power and I think this Scarlet Man knows it. So they want people to know and learn, then improve. They have to rise above. Probably better than the previous generations or the previous civilizations.
My theory is kinda like yours, but instead it's a secret black ops division of sorts of the hunter's guild, which is why they're one of the few with knowledge of the black dragons, I mean, it makes sense tbh, the guild wouldnt just post quests from people actively working against them. it's main reason for being formed is to hire elite hunters (I.e the saphire star of MHW) solely to make sure the most dangerous monsters are kept in an endangered state to make sure the world isnt doomed from having too many of them, or in some cases straight exterminating them, I mean, 2 of SMM's (abbreviating scarlet mystery man to just SMM to save time) most frequent monsters for their quests is alatreon and fatalis, as for the different personalities, I believe it is because operatives under the black ops division go under the identity of SMM, I mean it sure would be an issue for people under this black ops division to ACTIVELY use their actual names, as for why they potentially don't show up in world? I think it's because people where starting to get suspicious, so they had to go into hiding, or were more focussed on something MORE DANGEROUS than fatalis, as for some of the quests that make no sense for the goal I mentioned (I,e the best of the best) ? I believe it's how they recruit hunters to this black ops division
What if the Scarlet mystery man is that wyverian you see at the end of the monster hunter movie looking down on the characters fighting a gore Magala?
Scarlet Mystery Man was always one of my favorite MH Charachters, even if he only appeared in Quest Descriptions. The idea that theres this stranger who post quests to hunters fight the most powerful, apocalypse causing level monsters and treating these encounters as joyful events to the point he describes hunters fighting Fatalis as a "ballroom dance" was always something that got me thinking as a kid.
And if you read into the Lore, the Scarlet Mystery Man has been around since before the original Fatalis attack on Schrade Castle and told Schrade about Fatalis 1 month before it attacked but they didnt believe him
Where did you read the lore
@@TruePeaceSeeker Just read the Wikia, or translated books.
definitely isn't a single person
Feels like some cryptic organisation older than the idea of hunting itself dedicated to handling world ending threats and finding the right hunters to slay them
@@kitchengun1175 you remember how Raiden has a council with the gods in Mortal Kombat?
I think the scarlet mystery man is a part of some divine council that foresees dangers and have the hunters try to best the black dragons.
Scarlet mystery man being a first wyverian would make sense. His quests reminds me of the first wyverian in the Ancient Forrest who tests your skills to see if you're worthy of taking on Zorah Magdaros.
The theory of an Old wyverian that might be a Hunter himself that somehow can resonate with Fatalis makes sense.
He did not warn the King about Fatalis because he got the info, he resonated with Fatalis saw what was coming and warned everybody about "the Black Dragon" and no one took him seriously.
If he did not show up in the new world because most people require very special permissions to do so and now I don't remember if he appeared in Rise descriptions but if he didn't it means he maybe just moves around the central continent.
And since wyverian lifespan is not defined they are the "elves" of monster hunter, he could be some a wyverian that maybe has extra long lifespan.
My thoughts of scarlet mystery man's absence in world and ice borne, is because he is not in the new world. So maybe he has no knowledge about the new world as of that time.
For me, the strangest thing about Scarlet Mystery Man is when he says he 'prepares' or 'arranges' certain quests. Sure, the 2 Rajang quests make some sense. The guild captures Monsters for Arena fights all the time, so why can't he? But... He says he arranges fights between the Hunters and Elder Dragons... That can't be possible. Nobody can just control where an Elder Dragon will arrive. Especially not those like Fatalis or Alatreon. If he just predicts where they'll be, that makes sense, but then why choose such specific wording?
I mean, you could say the Guild arranges quests. Arraging could just mean he funds the quest. While I don't believe he's just some guy, there is a natural explanation for such phrasing.
I find it funny how everyone tries to give an "in-verse" explanation that makes him up to be an actual character we may eventually meet rather than the obvious route as he is simply an easter egg character.
The Scarlet Mystery Man has all possible hints of being either the devil or a demon: He's , lived for hundreds of years, he is obscure yet knowledged on topics the guild is completly on the dark about, he speaks poetically and even in some level of reverence when he speaks of the black dragons, he sends you to fight against only the hardest monsters out there, beast royalty if you will, he speaks of the black dragons as "those feared even by the gods" or "those feared by the heavens", and he either speaks of these quests as if they were trials of survival, or events of upmost importance and exelence, such as dances with royalty.
So, he's a seemingly inmortal, seemingly knowing of the obscure guy, who speaks elegantly, sends you on "hellish" quests against the "kings of beasts" an speaks about creatures that "scare gods and heaven" as if they were figures of importance in a ball/dance while what they are is basically a fight to the death. With all these in mind, it seems obvious that he is the devil or a demon at least, and his presence being used to just send u on the hardest quest the devs can think of seems like just a playful easter egg, after all high difficulties in games can often bear the tittles of "hellish" or "demonic". This would also explain why he disappeared in MHW onwards, before MHW the franchise was rather niche and World's entire purpose as a game was to bringford the series into the mainstream, with this mysterious character being used as a meere wink that the quest will be hard yet having enough mystery behind it to have people thinking he may eventually be part of one of the game's story or the over all lore it makes sense for Capcom to simply remove him, since he was never meant to be more than a lil easter egg.
you do realize monster hunter guild still operates on a standard fantasy guild system where someone goes there and says "got this monster causing trouble" "I need certain amount of this plant/shrooms/etc".
Scarlet Mystery Man is a literal man that shows up to the guild saying there is a black dragon somewhere or even making use of the guild arena for the Rajang quest
@@goth-_-880 you do realise you wrote a whole ass nothingburger that disproves nothing of what i said? and even did so incorrectly by starting with a question yet never leaving the mark? seriously what even is your point?
@@goth-_-880 @countcrocodile1115 has a point. You disproved nothing of what he said. ALSO they are all just theories anyways, so what's the harm in guessing a little bit. :/
It is semmingly conveneient that we always loose information on dangerous monsters whenever they appear.
Like, the dialogue just before Alatreon in MHW, if I remember.
The books containing more information on Alatreon are said be "suddenly" burnt for "no reason".
I like the idea of Fatalis turning into a human, seeking the strongest hunter and pitting them against strong monsters to test them and challenging them after, so when Fatalis is slain a hunter will make armor out of it and turn into Fatalis with time, becoming a new strong vessel for the dragon. 100% not smth Capcom would do and probably not smth we want to be true, but hey at least it sounds cool and ties some bits of interesting lore together 😅
I'm mostly surprised he didn't ask us to hunt the dire miralis in third gen or fourth gen gogmazios
yeah I was expecting dire miralis too.
Well I think he won't ask about gog because he's only in dundorma and he asks about monsters that are not in towns
@@anton6495 plus he isnt a black dragon (despite what certain people may tell you)
Gogmazios was also sort of right there, actively sieging the city.
@@lucineidecarvalhodeoliveir5566 he is in fact black color, but not classified as black elder dragon
On that "Fatalis in human form", what if its not so literal? The Scarlet Mystery Man could be a member of a cult who worships the black dragons and that's why he gives missions to the hunters - to prepare them as offerings to the Black Dragons. Because only the strongest could sate them and their desire for a challenge. If the hunter wins, then it is because the Black Dragon saw someone worthy of their 'blessing' (armour and weapons) and thus prevents the destruction the dragon would have caused seeking out their challenge on their own.
If one sees him/them as a cult who seeks to keep their dark god *sealed* through sacrifices, then I think his actions make a bit more sense.
And thus, the Scarlet Man is their seer/prophet, i.e. the one who can tell if the dragons are awakening.
My first thought after watching this video is, maybe the scarlet mystery man is a wyverian, maybe a higher up in the guild, who has much information about all this dangerous monster (either through resonate or other kind of information gathering), but can't really put out the info because it'll stir the world to chaos.
So the easiest thing to do is to put out a quest as this mysterious man, so the information will be scattered throughout the world, but also will get picked up by hunters who also curious about all of this. This also help masking his trail for common folk as "this crazy dude putting crazy quest" by mixing up fantastical, made up word with actual facts. People, or even hunters will shrug and laugh it off after seeing "i prepared 2 rajang for you".
This also explain why there are a lot of "red dressed" person in the lore, all of it is the same person with different alias.
Even so, why go though all the hassle? Maybe because the "self important people" third fleet master mentioned prevented all this kind of info to get out into the public, hence the alias and the misdirection.
I know all of this is reaching and none have any basis or actual explanation. Hell, maybe the devs don't even think it that much. But man theorizing is fun.
I like the idea of him being like, His Immenseness's right hand man, the EDOT's expert scout for finding the right hunters to slay the things nobody else can know about
Man, I hope we get to see the Scarlet mystery man again and this time, it will be the admiral of MH 6
Personally I'd like to think he's dopeing using elder dragon blood in order to stay immortal. The reason he gives out his quest is to scout strong hunters and pit them against elders to get his next fix.
So he’s a crack head😂
Another thing is that he may be trying to get super powers from the horns of these dragons. To do something like a secret guild experiment giving humans and wyverians powers for the next calamity.
I think the scarlet mystery man is a veteran hunter turned guild knight. Being a guild knight, let alone a veteran hunter, it would make sense that he would know about the black dragons, probably even slayed one. As for why he has these quests he makes for us, I think it is because he is tasked with finding hunters that the guild thinks can combat those crazy powerful monsters.
You'd think the guild would see these quests and go "what the fuck is this guy smoking?"
If Scarlet Mystery Man did have successors....what if they were the player? it could explain the vast knowledge of the rare species monsters as well as the slightly different wording for the quests given in each game (some sounding as if he's preparing the player hunter, others sounding as if he's annoyed/wants to challenge the player hunter etc.)
the player hunter being able to survive and complete the quests could be a "rite of passage" so to speak, narrowing down those who'd be worthy of being passed the red cloak.
Tis but a thought :Oc
Very cool video though! It was very interesting to listen and watch! I had forgotten how much lore was in the games hahaa :'''D
That would also mean that canonically every hunter who has managed to save the village in an MH game is a guy, because there's no scarlet mystery woman
@@reallycantthinkofausername487 That is assuming that "man" here is actually referring to a male and not simply a "human".
An individual wrapped in scarlet robes stops by the Guild Gal and drops by a mysterious note with a request...
my thoughts are the same he would be stopped by the guild members if a suspicious man in red shows up in guild and gave information about black dragons he could be a very well known retired skilled hunter or maybe the player is canonically in game but it's like legend of zelda all players are using the same Link but with different name and appearance
just for the sake of giving reason to who the mystery man is but of course that still doesn't explain how and when he discover those monster because as we know assuming the mystery man is the Player, He is a Human
i doubt every "player" shared the same "holier than thou" personality
@@DDracee if this were the case, if every player did take over the mantle of the scarlet mystery man, they more than likely act in the way that their predecessors did in order to make it seem like it's the same person.
I think it’s more plausible that the scarlet mystery man is actually not just one man, but a group of people: The guild knights. I could definitely imagine these people having access to information such as this, and relaying it to our characters because they know that we can handle it. But realistically its probably just a joke character made to mess with us lol
From what I've gathered, the guild knights wouldn't be seen as mysterious. They have incredibly recognizable, ostentatious outfit, and while some are secret agents, there are a large amount posted as elite city guards.
Also the guild labeling their own members as "mystery men" is a bit silly
@@jokig Group with power and authority being cagey about the identities, goals, and influence of it's highest ranking members? Seems pretty normal to me. Just because they're recognizable in public doesn't mean they want their every move to be stated outright
@@mapler90210 I do get that, but if it were the guild knights and they did want to meep things obscure, they'd have covered it up much better than giving them even the description of "scarlet mystery man". If they are the guild knights trying to be secretive, they'd be doing a shit job if they *asked* to be identified to that degree
It probably started as just an easter egg for people to find out but when your player base loves a character like that you usually expand upon it... With him disappearing completely it probably is a sign they already had something way bigger planned and him vanishing is part of the setup... So, there's a good chance his story changed around quite a bit internally as they realized how many people loved the mysterious character.
Totally agree with u, them removing hi can only mean its gonna come back in big style 100%. to me at least
potential return of fatalis subspecies in mh6 perhaps.
I hope the Scarlet mystery man will be the admiral that needs help in MH 6
And he be like, "you've proven your worth. Now it's time for you to take on the real deal"
So you know how some quests in MHW are given by an unnamed guy who's "name" is stuff like "hey, it's me!" , "it's me again!" , etc. Perhaps he is the scarlet mystery man
I mean I have heard some theories with some basis around Fatalis being able to take human form, also taking into account the whole ”wearing fatalis armor turns you into a fatalis” thing. Also some people interpret (myself included) White Fatalis as not as inherently hostile towards humanity as opposed to it’s other versions. Rather that White Fatalis is searching for a worthy adversary to take it down and finally end its life. Also the scarlet mystery man talks alot about the moon in the quest descriptions and what does White Fatalis do in its fight? Blocks out the sun with the moon which gives it some link to the moon. Also while I understand the theory of him being crimson fatalis, Crimson and Scarlet are two different kinds of red, Crimson being more fiery red while Scarlet a bit more neutral red… kinda the same color as White Fatalis red details. My take on him is that he could be White Fatalis following the hunters journey to see if they are worthy to take him on or just more ”foolish” hunters that he will crush like bugs
While this does clash with the whole thing about him warning the old king about fatalis. Perhaps the scarlet man warning the king was in fact not fatalis but seeing as he survived the calamity he could have come in contact with fatalis later on where fatalis could have donned the persona afterwards. But it’s just a theory
Hey, I looked through the rise sunbreak quests and the event quest 'forbidden waltz' appears similar to how the scarlet man speaks, "The august assault of two fiery wyverns is a beautiful sight to behold, indeed. Any valiant warriors out there that can best their incandescent dance shall receive a gift: materials to craft some layered armor"
The theory of him passing his robe down could also be supported by the slight differences in quests and language in the quest descriptions, because if your translations are correct you see little things like one says he he he at the end where one starts with hee hee hee, and one describes alatreon as feared by the gods and one says feared by the very heavens, and then one calls it a dance and one calls it the ball, just a neat idea
It seems to me that the scarlet mystery man isn't a individual, it's a group of people. Maybe a cult of some sort. After all the personality of the quest descriptions he gives seems to be different all the time, sometimes just slightly but sometimes by a lot. Sometimes they are chalanging you, sometimes they are training you, and sometimes they seem to simply enjoy sending you on quests. And he also seems to be at the different locations at the same time. It also seems like they are trying to prepare the hunters for something. For what? Maybe fatalis, or something we don't know of yet, since they seem to know more then the guild. That's just my take of it though.
It might be the fabled Fatalis with 6 horns that we’ve only ever seen in Frontier
In monster hunter online there is a mention of a man dressed in scarlet who elders dragons seem to avoid that’s evidence enough to say hell no this guy is bad news
do you have a link to this mention?
The fact that the pre-order bonus in wilds looks like what this mystery man would wear
I feel like the Furious Rajang duo fight in MHW titled "Mighty Muscle Monkey Madness" may be given by Scarlet Mystery Man. The client for the quest just says "It's me..." so I feel like it's eluding to something of that nature.
It sounds like an intentional call back specially because of the Rajang duo, as if we came full circle. I wouldn't rule out as that quest being SMM, he's simply acting even more anonymous. Of course, this is just speculation.
I love this kinda of lore videos and in game lore it's so dame epic and yet creepy and scary not knowing who this guy is and why he's asking us to hunt such powerful monsters
a dude that wears red, has lived for 1000 years, and that we know almost nothing about?
that's a vampire
A fuck mothering vampire
It’s Alucard
Or he is Santa :D
He killed a lot of people to get that title.
Sometimes I wonder if Egg Mafia are somehow related with Scarlet Mystery Man. Prolly some branch of followers, not unlike mysterious group mentioned by 3rd Fleet Master? Or maybe they're being used for since the goals are somewhat aligned?
While the whole egg questline is a joke, it still lead to the birth of Crimson Fatalis.
I love how this is most likely just a cute little easter egg or connection the developers like to put in the game, like an inside joke among the team, and my man acts like at the bottom of this "mystery" we are goint to find a dead body
There is a reoccuring theme in Mythology about creatures of great power taking the forms of humans.
Take the race of beings known As wyverians, for example. A fusion of Human, and Wyvern... they had to start from somewhere...
Perhaps an Ancient Elder Dragon, taking the form of a human, helped humanity by being part of the formation of the guild or perhaps by creating the race of Long Lived Wyverians?
I know this may sound stupid, but my personal theory is that it's just Capcom referencing Akuma. Now while it's out there Capcom has done Akuma time traveling to alternate hyper-ancient history with Asura, and his canon reality jumping to be the real Akuma manifested in copy universes in mobile games. Akuma also shows interest in the strong who's to say he wasn't out here just bodying monster in alt timelines going to the main MH universe and reporting about it (it may answer why he's only reported on by aperance not having a Guild id n such) and may be why we don't hear about him anymore since he's finally defeated
I like this one. Akuma wants more powerful warriors to fight, so he sends in these quests in this universe to ensure the growth of any hunters who have the courage to take on the challenge. If they eventually become strong enough to body a near-god, they might be good enough to unleash a fraction of his true power upon.
In mhfu there is a quest from, if im remember correctly "The Lady in the white dress" and it turns out its a white fatalis quest... Now I raised a question,"Did the white fatalis CAN shape Shifting??!!"
The scarlet mystery man is actually a Red Khezu
He's trying to rise in power by having you defeat his competition!
As far as I know the guild isn't the central government. Most kings, queens, provisional armies, and countries have been mentioned such as in the parasol bowgun description
Yes but the guild holds the most power. Also as other ppl in the comments have mentioned, the guy is most likely a Schrade descendant. If that's true, then his quests make a lot of sense. The guild f*cked over the people of Schrade hard. Imagine an organization wiping out your peoples history. We know this is true because freedom unite and I believe it was either tri or gu that confirmed it. Freedom unite especially. The guild really made the whole world forget about Schrade.
@@borponoida9161 where Is this mentioned? Most places in the
Games never mention being actually ran by the guild outside of the obvious. As far as we know the guild doesn't have an army
@@angellara7040 It's sprinkled throughout the series. Also a lot of info can be gained from a special book Capcom released that also showed the ancient dragon weapons that old humans used to subjugate dragon's with. Also Schrade was basically the last stand of old humanity before faralis ruined it. Fun fact the reason for the evil descriptions of fatalis gear is due to the fact that fatalis would smelt humans onto its body mimicking hunters. I always found that cool in a messed up way.
@@borponoida9161 Jesus christ. That's an artbook in a section about rejected concepts back when the game was similar to what would be something like dark souls. Fatalis isn't even mentioned in the elder dragon war
It's almost certainly just quests given by the founders of the guild to the very best hunters with potential to rival the black dragons. The guild doesn't want the general public to know about the black dragons, and doesn't want even the best hunters to know the guilds link or history with them. So they give the quests under the pseudonym Scarlet mystery man, which is just a reference to the legend of the man who warned the ancient civilization of the black dragons.
My personal theory: there are multiple scarlet men. They've known much about these mysterious monsters through possibly ancient texts exclusive to their community. The talk of old gods possibly implies a religious motivation for their actions, luring foolish hunters in battles stacked against them.
What about this theory:
The Scarlet Mystery Man was actually the "canon" character, or generalized character, hence why he/she is a "mystery man". Due to the term "man" being widely generalized or can be an umbrella term for person or human, this allows for the "Scarlet Mystery Man" to also theoretically be a female as well. What I mean by "generalized character" is this: in every monster hunter game, you rise to be the strongest monster hunter for that time, and if the "Scarlet Mystery Man" is actually multiple people with it being passed down, it could make logical sense that after the completion of each game, when they move to the next one, its actually the character from the previous game, or one of their own chosen successors. The information may also be in a hidden location somewhere in the Monster Hunter World that of which only the Successor and Succeeded knows about. After the events of lets say the first game of Monster Hunter, the "player" character may become the successor. The Succeeded "Scarlet Mystery Man" passes down the information about Fatalis to this successor and deems them the next "Scarlet Mystery."
There could also be a cult like following of the original Scarlet Mystery Man with his original works/research to keep track of Fatalis and the other Black Dragons. This could make sense because of the audio found in MHW as shown in this video. For all intents and purposes, they could be trying to help hunters reach their strongest and that is when that player's character then gets invited to join the following of the Scarlet Mystery Man.
These Theory are only based off of loose evidence, but like everyone else knows, there is no soldi evidence of who this person, or people, are. So anything can go, and I would love to see more discussion on this and more information provided from CapCom about this matter. Hopefully they bring Scarlet Mystery Man back in the 2025 Monster Hunter Wilds with some more information and possible Lore about this unique character.
Actually, now that you mention it, the colour of end game armour icons is.. usually red.
They refer to Fatalis fights as "Dances" and what more are every Monster battle than a curious form of dancing?
Yo, you said that in Monster Hunter World the Mystery Scarlet Man does not show. Welp, in Iceborn, at the Event quests, there is one about defeating 2 Furious Rajans, and the client is "Its me..." What if he was the Scarlet Man?
Looking at the quests scarlet man has given this is the most logical conclusion. Name being "it's me" implies it's someone we know from somewhere
@@95DreadLord i checked it once again, and behind that quest, there is another one similar to this one, but its killing 2 regular rajans, from a client named "Thanks for your help"
I went and looked at the quest after reading this comment and I don't think it's the mystery man. There are multiple events with a client having similar names like Heyo! its me. In the quest descriptions this person always mentions the inspiration they get from the hunters doing the quests. They don't match at all with the way the scarlet man talks and to me sound like a developer having fun with various event quests. I know I'm about 2 weeks late to this comment but a part of me wanted to share this info if you didn't know. Maybe he does not show up in world/iceborne because he never went to the new world.
If dante hadn't had his multiple cameos already I'd be making the exact joke you're thinking of right now.
The fact that there's DMC collab in World would be a funny reason why he doesn't give quests, lol. Like, imagine the guy being too busy KILLING dragons instead of sending someone else.
I like the idea of the Scarlet Mystery Man being a sort of litch/undying fella, who exists as long as super powerful monsters do; he begs mighty hunters, then, to defeat them to help him hasten to his rest.
I have some news about scarlet mystery man. You see in the first begging section of mh4u that's basically teaching you how to play there is a guy named casavanner whos the capita of the ship you wake up on, and what dose he have, that's right scarlet cloak and scarlet hat with a red feather in it, he also sparks the same way as scarlet mystery man.
Speaks*
I didn't finish the video before talking. 😶😐😅
The Man in red is from the Spanish inquisition. No one would have expected it
My tinfoil hat just got done with the crackpipe theory is that Scarlett Mystery man is a person dedicated to testing the absolute limits of hunters diving further in further into madness as his dialogue become more grandeur. After the hunter completes these intense quests, the mystery man harvests the remains in order to Frankenstein the ultimate monster to challenge the hunters.
In short EQUAL DRAGON WEAPON BABY I WILL NEVER GIVE OUT HOPE
I want an EDW fight so bad
I think that The Scarlet Robed Man is a descendant of the Schrade peoples. Wyverian most likely, who's lineage is specifically linked to these powerful monsters, Fatalis most of all. They probably formed the guild in order to take back their home, and to stop the same calamity from happening again by fostering powerful, demi-god like warriors by forging them in the stressful fights that he pits them against.
What if instead of a single individual the scarlet mystery man is a code name for an organization within the guild that researches the black dragons and keeps tabs on their and other rare species' movements and their job is to find the hunters strong enough to take on black dragons throughout the world and the quests are sent through that part of the guild instead of the main part of the guild and the moniker is there to make you think it's just a single person when it's not
I might just be over thinking it but it's fun to speculate over cause I'd like to imagine the guild isn't really telling us everything that they know about these monsters and there must be some reason for it
I think I know whom this mystery man is. Who remembers the creation myth from Monster Hunter World? About the dragons whom created time, the sea, the lands, and everything else? In it, a young man traveled by sea to see why the dragons created everything. He returned to his people with the scales of the dragons then vanished without a trace. He could be that same young man, watching over the events of the MH universe since the very beginning of time itself.
I like that theory.
It even mentions that he dawned a cloak. Who knows what color it could have been?
My guess is that he is a wyverian and apart of some kind of secret society also it could just be me but if I was to guess this societies base of operations I’d say it’s in the tower region or possibly the yukumo/kamura region just because of the amount quests relating to that area (I say yukumo/kamura because I heard some where that the two villages are in close vicinity) and involve a “celebration” but that’s just a guess on my end
im pretty sure he is mentioned on monster hunter world, its not him requesting it but a palico if im not wrong, its either on the high rank quests or the master rank quests on the events, its on the arena, the client mentions of an old legend of a men who would wear only red and would also only hunt red monsters, and if you could make the legend be true by killing the monsters on the arena
You mean in the devil may cry crossover event Code: Red?
Lmao the second i figured out where this was going I was like this mother fucker was probably responsible for the double rajang quest… sure enough.
That double rajang quest will test your skills throughout the game. What a sense of relief finishing that quest, pain in the ass but worth it.😢
On one of the mr ranks on the mhw iceborne dlc, Might Muscle Monkey Madness, the client is, “It’s me”
18:00 It's interesting 3rd Fleet Master had a conversation about burning stuff with clearly superstitious people, since the Alatreon Quest Assignment Cutscene mentions people burned all the documents about Alatreon and yet the Commission is eager to make new documents about them in lue of that.
I also have another theory that’s kind of an add on to another. What if the Scarlet Mystery Man, being multiple people in generations, is actually a secret agency a bit like the Harpers from D&D. The Scarlet Mystery Man per generation goes to the Kingdoms of the MH verse and warns kingdoms of disasters and also gathers strong hunters to get rid of calamities around the world before they even begin. Like destroying Fatalis, White Fatalis, Crimson Fatalis, and Alatreon.
I think a human villain in a monster hunter game would be quite cool. It’s never really been explored in main games.
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*points to **28:04* That's me!!! Man, I'm so honored to be on this video, thank you!!!
My theory based on what you've presented:
The Scarlet Mystery Man is potentially more than one person. But not just any individual; someone gifted in tracking, surveying black dragons. A gift to go unnoticed by their awareness, to sense, follow and locate their positions.
The purpose of the prerequisite quests are not just a challenge; they serve to weed out the weak, and reckless hunters from the strongest, wisest, and most cunning hunters, because it is those hunters who possess the best chances to survive, if not, slay the black dragons.
When you consider that Fatalis decimated an entire Kingdom, it makes sense to only seek the best hunters.
These aren't ordinary Elder Dragons; they are malicious beings that destroy everyone and everything, acutely aware of the devastation they cause. They have no equals, thus, they can upset the balance of nature with little to no opposition, not even from Deviljhos. Death to all, mercy to none. If no one rises to slay them, it will be these dragons that will lay waste to the world.
And to ensure someone does come, they have to be made. The natural desire to seek challenge, to grow stronger, is what would ultimately drive them.
Perhaps like the opposite of whoever tried to warn us away from looking into the black dragons during Iceborne.
I remember this dude’s quests from back in the day, and I thought even then he was a dragon in human form. With sunrise, a human suffering from resonance makes more sense now. Their strange speech patterns even sound alike.
okay so this may be a stretch but this sounds all too familiar.
In Dungeons and Dragons ancient true dragons can actually transform into humans as a spell known as Shape Changer, since DnD has been around since before Monster Hunter it's very possible that the Scarlet Mystery Man is actually a monster in disguise.
'creepy' is a real stretch
I think his association with red might be sorta symbolic. He’s like a matador holding up the red sheet to over zealous hunters, causing them to bull rush into the most difficult quests in the game.
27:16 Dragonhide X (MHFU Black Fatalis Armor) description: "Wearers can feel the pulse of Fatalis and are said to have terrible nightmares." The description of other parts also say that if the hunter wears it for too long they may die. If the armor is pulsing it (Black Fatalis) maybe still alive in some way, is Scarlet Mistery Man killed a Crimson Fatty and weared it's armor, the monster could have taken possession of the man.
(Not saying that I believe this, but I don't think the theory is completely incoherent)
Guesses:
He is the secret head of the guild, possibly a full-blooded Wyverian.
He's the Caravaneer from 4U, or related in some way.
There are multiple 'Scarlet Mystery Man' people, and each carries the lore forward, but the organization/person is limited to the Old World.
He is/was some kind of prophet, and delivered/wrote the quests a long time ago, only to be shared with a hunter/hunter(s) with specific qualities.
my favorite part about this video is the music you chose for the background. You truly know how to make engaging content. Great work!!
I appreciate that!
@@Maki-GS I would like to know the music you used during the Disappearance chapter!
Its probably just Dante, lol.
He seems to be taking the same kind of role as the serpents hand in scp lore. Both are very secretive and amking efforts to gradually reveal more about something that a large organization wants kept under wraps. The scarlet mystery man is making his move by slowly showing more and more powerful hunters these impossible creatures and testing them by making them hunt said monsters. Its likely hes gathering the strongest hunters out there so he can make more bold moves. Not much can be done to a guy who has some of the strongest people in the world on his side. This makes the guild acting against him much more difficult. Kinda like the serpents hand and their base of operations which is an anomaly that hides itself so well the foundation cant even start tracking them, making acting against them impossible.
Dante just feels like visiting every now and then 😂
That's the stylish hunter
Regardless of who or what he turns out to be, narratively I could see him as some sort of chronicler/dandelion character who summarizes the era of hunters themselves, telling the story that the guild itself would keep under wraps if all is said and done. I would also really like to see a connection of humans and wyverians in the first great war and the creation of the black dragon, him functioning as a sort of inbetween (not because it is realistic but because it would be such a cool storyshift to unveil some secret mystery as a gameworld changing event.) And what I also always hope for is that we get some more tales of the first hunters. Appearently, compared to todays hunters, they were almost a different breed altogether, going by the information we have from Unite which was quite heavily referenced here. But I could also simply see him as a nice little secret that never pays off because the series is never gonna end anyways.
ok so personal theory but in the new sunbreak dlc for rise the quest for gore magala is given by a “black armored hunter” which could mean there are multiple of these mystery men and they could be a cult/group of some sorts
I think scarlet mystery man created the guild to protect people from the disaster of fatalis, he trains those he thinks worthy with challenges and when calamity occurs, he informs the hunter as to where to get to fatalis.
He passes the crimson fatalis clothes and mantle to the hunter who then becomes the next generation of scarlet mystery man who trains/informs the next generation
And there is a different version of SMM from each respected area and game, it explains how he recognises there's different songs the old SMM passes on the songs given by the other generations which all lived in different areas to the new person
The reason he doesn't handle it himself is because he is too old to do so or something. Would also explain the different ways he presents himself in different games, just some generations SMM are more unhinged than others or they make reference to the humour of the previous one which would make sense if SMM is a hunter that received his quest previous
Theres alot of flaws tho if thats the case.
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I like how you said there's flaws yet didn't elaborate which exactly it is
@@progmrz5512 well i can’t remember it now.
What if it is like a "Fairy Tail" or " Dragonslayer Mage" type thing. Where a Dragon transforms into a Human shape and teaches how to kill Dragons and other Monsters by forming a Guild to provide the Tools for those hunts.
I have a theory that might put most of these theories together.
I think Scarlet Mystery Man (let's call it Scarlet) existed as a Wyverian 1,000 years ago, warned the kingdom as mentioned in the video, but when they didn't believe him, he created THE GUILD that hunts monsters along with the few survivors of said kingdom (assuming there are). Then, as time went by, the first MH title was released and right there he encountered the one who did the impossible, slay dragons that are a terror of legends. A feat that only he, the hunter (you), could do? And by the end of the series, he recruits you to become the next Scarlet after you retire from hunting in order to prepare future hunters for the next calamity that will follow? This will explain Scarlet's extensive knowledge of the monsters because he already encountered them before as the hunter from previous titles continuing the cycle. This would also explain his authority from the guild because they know he's the previous hunter that did the impossible, looking for the next hunter who would do the same. Which is why they let him post such ridiculous quests.
TL;DR
There was an original Scarlet who was succeded by the first hunter and is now a moniker for the previous hunters (you) from the previous MH titles.
It's so cool that the chore used in the soundtrack is actually about fatalis himself and not just some random gibberish
Feel like he is specificaly getting you to kill breeding pairs of monsters 2rajang 2gravios. All 3 rath pairs
And then the big dragon quests are just like. Logic dont let the enviroment be destroyed
He obviously has a lot of reasearch done and spends a lot of tine observing
I imagine he's a wyverian, for his long life, maybe, somewhat related to the first wyverian in mh world, a opposite, more bombastic and insane version of him. Where the first wyvernian wants you to prove, and hunt these big pillars, the scarlet wants you to capitulate the horrors of monster, and prove what a hunters worth, can peak at.
This was really awesome thanks. Can’t wait to hear more if he shows him self again
It is Dante from DMC, as in MH4U and MHG he appears in the additional download content and both Monster Hunter and Devil May Cry are from Capcom
Yeah its absolutely a reference to Dante. He even overlooked the event quest in MHW called Code:Red that directly alludes to him. I don't think its some deep secret lore thing its just an Easter egg reference to their other game series.
@@kyleochoa9004But isn't Code: Red is requested by Stylish Red Fiver? Is it really possible that this Scarlet Mystery Man is also 5th fleet hunter? Does the jp text have different description from the english description.
What I really love about characters like this, is that everyone comes to a differen't conclusion, depending on their own understanding of the lore and their interpretation of the MH World.
Many say that he is a Wyverian, the founder of the guild that distributes quests to test hunters for the biggest challenges that humanity can face and sends them to defeat those challenges.
Sometimes he is someone who resonates with powerful elder dragons, trying his best to warn the public and maybe going mad because of the connection and because of the lifes he couldn't safe.
Othertimes he is group of people, inside or outside the guild that want to gather the strongest hunters, either to keep the secrets of the guild while dealing with certain black dragons or because the guild would otherwise be ignorant of certain doom
He may be a deity or devil(may cry), someone from a different world, a hunter about to become a fatalis or even an elder dragon in human form. Maybe he just is a nod from the developers saying: here are hard quests.
I love that, if you take what the game tells you about a fatalis, for example, as the truth, the man could be an old hunter, slowly becoming a fatalis and growing mad.
But can Fatalis really come back from the Grave and take over whoever killed it? I don't know and you probably don't know it either 100% certain. The games descriptions often steer into folklorerish teritory, especially with elders/black dragons. So yoj need to decide for yourself, how much you take as written, and what you take a tale, made to cope with unimaginable horror and loss.
Between the phylogenetic trees, bio energy and having "absolutely no magic" there was, and still is, a large part of mysticism in MH. There is always something left vague or unexplained, like how exactly elders work. While most normal monsters are explained relatively well, most elders feats still seem highly unplausible without magic.
I do think that, if you really tried to fit everything together, you could do so relatively easily with bio energy. Why are hunters so strong? They are always exposed to bio energy, so they grow stronger. Why can Kushala control wind? Because the bio energy reacts that way. How do the vial weapons work? They absorb bio energy. Whiel I feel that it coudl be an interesting project to explain everything in MH, I fear it would have the same effect as the mediclorians. Taking away the interesting questions of the setting, that you must answer yourself without a clear right or wrong.
This generell openess of the setting, plus the huge number of questions this Scarlet Mystery Man existing brings up make a very intersting and cool little mystery, no matter on which side of the
"The SMM is a group inside the guild that seeks strong hunters because ..." "The SMM is an elder dragon in human form that seeks strong hunters because ..."
Axis you personally sit.
I truly hope that he is in every future game, still giving the hardest quests with vague descriptions, but I sincerely hope that this scarlet veil is never completely lifted, that we are always left guessing and theorizing.
the event quest "Mighty Muscle Monkey Madness" -hunt 2 furious rajang. the client name is... "It's me..." -
seems like you missed somthing?
Featuring Dante from the devil may cry series
Pretty sure he is in the old world and monster hunter world takes place in the new world and that's potentially why he didn't give a quest in mhw
Is it just me or does his dialogue seem to get more, unhinged, from generation to generation? Like he might be going partially mad?
Ooooh
That's what the Fatalis armor does to people if they wear it (lore). But since he's the scarlet man guy, maybe he is wearing the red/crimson Fatalis armor and that armor is making him loose his sanity
Perhaps he's somewhere between all 3.
A Wyverian who's resonating with powerful monsters and is able to basically predict the future. He may live a very long time as a Wyverian, but he's not immortal. Likely what happens is he chooses a successor or successors forming a sort of cult of individuals who can resonate with powerful monsters and thus spread the forewarnings about the impending events and/or dangers, also explaining the variations in the song.
The boredom? Well, with knowledge of the future, he knows what's going to happen already. That's kind of boring. They're likely wanting to see an unpredictable outcome by setting up slay/repel quests for Hunters to take on. There's also no fun in predicting and preventing a chaotic end-of-the-world fight. There's also the risk a madman would try to aid the calamity incarnate, after all, it is Humans.
Creation of the Guild? It's the aforementioned cult.
I personally believe that it could be an unknown, hyper-intelligent monster that's sending these quests. No, not like a monster shapshifting into a human, a monster writing or influencing and controlling someone to write it down and sending it in. In all fairness, it is very much an out-there theory, but if this unknown entity is controlling someone *(or is a humanoid monster, much like the Wyverians could be considered)* they'd probably sound very bored not knowing tone when communicating with others. Fatalis has a roughly human-level malicious intelligence, showing that it can even try to mimic Hunters out of spite. Plus, it'd need to conceal its identity anyways, hence the robe/cloak. The robe/cloak could even be part of the creature, like how the Magalas use there wing-arms like a cape, or mimic humanoids like how Ahtal-Ka used various random scrap wood and metal parts to form a dragonoid mech; similarly, most Temnocerons used the skin of another creature or their own webbing to form what could be called "clothes," though this isn't mimicry as far as I can tell. It might even be the first and likely only monster that cares about non-monsters as some people would care about monsters.
Nah, he is dante
There is a description in the games that hunters who wear Fatalis armor mysteriously dissapear.
The theory is that the armor corrupts them and overtakes them, reviving the Fatalis or making a new one.
There is also the lore of the ancient civilization and how they got destoyed in the great dragon war because of a forbidden act they commited.
The forbidden act was going against nature through the use of technology and biology and making their own lifeforms and using them as bio weapons.
Hundreds of dragons were needed to make the bio weapons.
Now in my head cannon all of these things combine and turn into the scarlet mystery man, he is the result of one of these experiments, he is a created lifeform or a hunter from back then.
With the combination of technology and biology, so the crimson fatalis armor and hunter, they made a man infused with the lifeforce of hundreds of dragons explaining his long life (Kind of like a philosopher stone in FMA)
Instead of the armor slowly overtaking him, the lifeforce of the fatalis that was still in it was also incorporated into the man hence being immune to the corruption of the armor and might also explain his sense of being able to detect other stong monsters.
It might also explain why the other Fatalis hates humans so much, you turned the remains of his brethren into an abomination.
You could also add an extra twist to it and say that the corruption of the armor was not erased but only slowed down, which would explain why some of the quest descriptions became more and more sinister. Or maybe he's hoping to train up hunters by throwing challenges at them in the hopes of finding some that can kill him.
Welp, not hundreds needed for one but hundreds needed because they made many Frankenstein elders.
Uhhhh. I think you need to step back about the scarlet man being a bio weapon lmfao. Literally no reason to believe that
Fatalis is angry because we backstabbed elders with those abominations. There's your reason.
@@GOPKilla From the famdom: The first new life form they ever made was the Equal Dragon Weapon (Japanese イコール・ドラゴン・ウェポン), or Wyvern Machine Soldier (Japanese 竜機兵), a bio weapon. This life form required about thirty horses worth of dragons, meaning HUNDREDS of dragons were needed to make only one Equal Dragon Weapon. Also, the more blood this titan shed, the longer it would live. Not much else is known about this bio weapon, however, the Hunter's Guild has discovered one dead in a lost warehouse. As of now, they've been studying it.
@@GOPKilla I never presented it as fact, I was just theorizing and connecting it to things that already were in the lore because I thought it would be cool and interesting and because so little is known about the Scarlet man.
I even say that it is my ''head cannon''
But the character is such an enigma that you could make the argument that there is no reason to not believe it either.
What it all comes down to is that I was just having fun with it and your comments add nothing of value, so if someone needs to step back it's you.
Honestly, I think the theory of Scarlet Mystery Man definitely sounds as though he has connections to the dragons themselves, in some of his quests, you can read a sense of annoyance with the hunters that continue to hunt the next great challenge. If I were a creature of 1000s of years of age I would get rather annoyed that there are these lesser beings slaying my kin, and as a means to try and be rid of them, I would constantly try to feed them to greater foes so as to be rid of them for good. But then the draconic hubris kicks in and suddenly, sure these hunters keep killing my kin, but they are fascinating and I want to know more, soon I will crush them beneath my claw in due time. So perhaps his disappearance was more the fact that his hubris got him wounded or straight up killed. This no more quests from him. Now I come from a DnD perspective and the dragons of the TTRPG can in fact take human form, and they can become so enthralled by their own hubris and pride as a way to toy with the lesser beings. And when they are caught on their heels they become EXTREMELY Paranoid and enraged that the lesser beings are ACTUALLY standing a chance. This doesn’t mean Monster Hunter takes inspiration from DnD, but it is an interesting avenue to explore. That’s just my thoughts.
"Destiny waits for no one, Hunter" that line goes so insanely hard...
The SMM/scarlet mystery man is probably one of the researchers responsible for the creation of the EDW/Equal Dragon weapon, because of his staggeringly extensive knowledge on Elder Dragon lore. My guess he is part of the Ancient Civilization and he probably finally understood that the world needs balance, evident when the EDW was tipping the scale of war for the humans thus angering the Dragons of old, so my guess is that when an elder dragon starts to become too powerful or any wyverns start to disturb the local ecology, the SMM would employ the hunters to bring balance to the world.
It was Poogie. He watch us all these times.
Nobody talkin bout how he said “this world” kinda implyin he’s been to others?
Its Crimson Fatalis reborn from the Previous Hunters that wore his armor, they were consumed, and finally be reborn
Although it' missing the motion design part of it, you really managed to capture the feeling you get while watching a Lemmino video!! Really nice work, continue editing wish you the best :D
btw if you could add the music credits in the bio it would be great!
wait he is the one that tortures you with the dual SS rajang in the arena ? - imma have to find this dude
He's just going on walks. *Enthusiastic* walks.
He seems to be some kind of cultist training hunters to become powerful enough to perform rituals. Throughout the series he is giving the Gold Rathian and Silver Rathalos quests and he talks about blood and stuff in them, it is like he wants to sacrifice the blood of strong hunters in order to Summon these black dragons, fighting these mystical beings could be some kind of ritual in itselve. It seems like he dissappeared after achieving some kind of goal, he seems to be knowing what he is doing. What that goal was we don't know. I hope we will find out in the future. Maybe meet this guy or even fight him. Also it is very creepy how his song about fatalis is being sung by a lot of people including children. It could be some kind of religious spell.