"represents the highest tonnage of cobalt use in the catalyst sector". Keywords are "catalyst sector". This doesn't mean that's a large sector. Sadly this is misinformation spread by Full Charged.
Desulphurisation uses cobalt continuously to up the octane and remove sulphurs from gasoline and natural gas. This is an ongoing use and will never end as long as we keep using fossil fuels. The cobalt used in batteries is 100% recycled and therefore is a closed loop. I’m not sure how you can argue that using this element for fossil fuels is any less immoral. Any industry that constantly consumes a resources is a bigger user than one that recycles it as long as you factor in time.
www.statista.com/statistics/875814/cobalt-demand-worldwide-by-end-use/ This process has used hundreds of Tonnes of cobalt every year for the last 40 years. Battery production will only surpass it in the next few years. I find it very interesting that we get facebook articles about the poor children in the Congo mining cobalt when batteries are mentioned but fossil fuel has been using it for ever and no one says a peep. That is a clear example if misinformation.
After a car battery has been used for 500,000 to 1,000,000 km, it can then be used as house storage for a few decades and then go on to industrial use. We will be using batteries for 40 years or more before they need recycling, and by then we might something like the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_Electric_Bell that is still working after being made in 1840!!!
I don't see any reason that recycled metals can't be as pure or even purer than they were before. After all, batteries are really just high-grade ore, so just apply similar processes to recover them. Thanks to fullychargedshow, I learnt that the biggest use of cobalt is to remove sulphur from fuels, and they leave it in the fuel to be burned and distributed around our environment. Cobalt is vital in trace amounts for enzymes, but a suspected carcinogen in high concentrations, so this negligence should cause some concern.
Sean Mitchell Can you do an overview video, just short intro’s of all the EV’s introduced to the market in the last two years and how that (volume) compares to the market just 5 years ago. Think it would be a nice snapshot of the ev market late ‘19 for the UA-cam archives
Eric Lundgren lives to promote sustainable solutions. As a social entrepreneur and environmentalist, he founded the countries largest hybrid electronic recycling company to combat waste, then built the world's longest-range electric vehicle to promote the mass adoption of EV’s. As a young man living in India, Africa, and China - he witnessed first-hand the life-changing power of renewable energy given to those in need of reliable electricity. Returning to the United States, he watched as the “Green Energy Revolution” was halted by expensive batteries and vowed to solve this problem. His solution, BigBattery, Inc. is now the largest supplier of surplus and the re-certified battery’s in the United States with offices in both Singapore and China. Take a look: BigBattery.Com/Deals Also used the coupon code "Cycle5" for a 5% discount at checkout. I think it still works so I hope this helps!
As much as I am in favor of EVs and Li-ion batteries powering them, I fear we are seeing here another example of downcycling rather than recycling. If the material needed for the batteries cannot really be recycled, then, in the long run, we will experience a depletion of the natural resources.
This ultimately comes down to cost. Recycled raw materials need to become cheaper than newly mined resources. Of course this happens automatically if we deplete the easily accessible natural resources but we'd rather not wait that long...
The petroleum industry is the largest global consumer of Cobalt.
I'm surprised, tell me more! How, when, why? Link?
"represents the highest tonnage of cobalt use in the catalyst sector". Keywords are "catalyst sector". This doesn't mean that's a large sector. Sadly this is misinformation spread by Full Charged.
Desulphurisation uses cobalt continuously to up the octane and remove sulphurs from gasoline and natural gas. This is an ongoing use and will never end as long as we keep using fossil fuels. The cobalt used in batteries is 100% recycled and therefore is a closed loop. I’m not sure how you can argue that using this element for fossil fuels is any less immoral. Any industry that constantly consumes a resources is a bigger user than one that recycles it as long as you factor in time.
www.statista.com/statistics/875814/cobalt-demand-worldwide-by-end-use/
This process has used hundreds of Tonnes of cobalt every year for the last 40 years. Battery production will only surpass it in the next few years. I find it very interesting that we get facebook articles about the poor children in the Congo mining cobalt when batteries are mentioned but fossil fuel has been using it for ever and no one says a peep. That is a clear example if misinformation.
After a car battery has been used for 500,000 to 1,000,000 km, it can then be used as house storage for a few decades and then go on to industrial use. We will be using batteries for 40 years or more before they need recycling, and by then we might something like the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_Electric_Bell that is still working after being made in 1840!!!
A more accurate title would be, 'How Might EV Batteries Be Recycled?'
I cant get enough of this expert and detailed analysis.
Would you be able to look into Don Sadoway's battery chemistry?
nice.
nice technology..
I don't see any reason that recycled metals can't be as pure or even purer than they were before.
After all, batteries are really just high-grade ore, so just apply similar processes to recover them.
Thanks to fullychargedshow, I learnt that the biggest use of cobalt is to remove sulphur from fuels, and they leave it in the fuel to be burned and distributed around our environment.
Cobalt is vital in trace amounts for enzymes, but a suspected carcinogen in high concentrations, so this negligence should cause some concern.
Tesla use the Nickel and Cobolt in their 301 cold rolled stainless Steel? Is that what he said? Or am I reading into it?
Link to referenced paper: www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378775318308498
Thank you!
Horrible audio, terrific information
Ya, it was a livestream. Sorry.
Sean Mitchell glad you uploaded it anyway, it’s great stuff
Sean Mitchell
Can you do an overview video, just short intro’s of all the EV’s introduced to the market in the last two years and how that (volume) compares to the market just 5 years ago. Think it would be a nice snapshot of the ev market late ‘19 for the UA-cam archives
Eric Lundgren lives to promote sustainable solutions. As a social entrepreneur and environmentalist, he founded the countries largest hybrid electronic recycling company to combat waste, then built the world's longest-range electric vehicle to promote the mass adoption of EV’s. As a young man living in India, Africa, and China - he witnessed first-hand the life-changing power of renewable energy given to those in need of reliable electricity. Returning to the United States, he watched as the “Green Energy Revolution” was halted by expensive batteries and vowed to solve this problem. His solution, BigBattery, Inc. is now the largest supplier of surplus and the re-certified battery’s in the United States with offices in both Singapore and China.
Take a look: BigBattery.Com/Deals
Also used the coupon code "Cycle5" for a 5% discount at checkout. I think it still works so I hope this helps!
As much as I am in favor of EVs and Li-ion batteries powering them, I fear we are seeing here another example of downcycling rather than recycling. If the material needed for the batteries cannot really be recycled, then, in the long run, we will experience a depletion of the natural resources.
This ultimately comes down to cost. Recycled raw materials need to become cheaper than newly mined resources. Of course this happens automatically if we deplete the easily accessible natural resources but we'd rather not wait that long...
@@rhamph Agreed, with some caveats.
Are there actual plants doing this, sounds like this is still in development?
I have read that only 5% of alle batteries are recycled, is this true?
So, to recycle one EV battery cost more than the entire car?