Excellent info, and that final tiny design is super efficient and effective Most small grids will not last more than a few minutes (sometimes seconds) during actual combat. Cheap, stylish and quick to repair. Great work!
Yeah I've come to the conclusion that for small grid fighters, power to weight ratio keeps you alive vs relying on the relatively useless heavy armor when it comes to dodging incoming fire (usually bullets). Having good front/back engines is great, BUT making sure you also have at least one other axis with really good engines. Either sideways or vertical works. You want to be able to juke or "strafe" on either axis while still maintaining your guns on target as best as possible. Now heavy small grid blocks can be useful, but considering the mass to power ratio, the ability to take one extra auto turret bullet can depend entirely on your design. Can you afford the take a bullet or two on a heavy armor strip across engine ports? Sure maybe useful. Heavy block on the front facing sections only, while using light armor for everything else? May be ok too if you can maintain your acceleration / power to weight ratio. So many designs and approaches always makes this so much fun!
@@Slovflyer all excellent advice, for a long time I underestimated the power of small grids, their mobility and miniscule cross-section is their strength. In the hands of a skilled pilot, a single fight can do a moderate amount of damage to a decent sized frieghter/cruiser Especially if you can bait them into gravity range, where a few well placed missiles might spell inevitable falling doom.
If this thing had a projector, all it would have to do is just rub up against some welders and the whole thing would be fixed. It kind of reminds me of a clownfish.
Ah yes, the "long rod" strategy. Make your ship in a shape of a long rod that is always pointing at the enemy. That way you only need a minimum amount of armor to protect it. I use similar strategy for my drones, but I actually do use heavy armor. Just only a small section that is in front of the craft, like 10 armor blocks won't slow down your craft *that* much, but make a huge difference in how long it survives.
This is so cool seeing the process you went through to from the first ship to the more optimized versions! As a total noob fighter builder, this video is very helpful. Also good to know I shouldnt make heavy armor brick fighters XD
Not going to lie the constant movine the camera around and changing the view makes the beginning viewing of the video very hard to watch. ADD in full swing.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It was cool to see. I like that the end results is so fast, so hard to hit hand still looks so good. Great engineering!
Would you consider using the armor plates to cover the hydrogen tanks? Do you have any issues with the deformation destroying blocks after only a few shots?
is the fighter on the workshop, im working on a carrier and looking into fighter designs and build my hangar capacity around a final fighter design, i like this one the best
I stole a fighter like this. That's exactly what I wanted. Something small something cheap something I can deploy in Mass. Kind of like a TIE fighter or F5. This thing has two jobs, intercept small craft and harass larger ones drawing the fire away from its own larger ships. What my fighter pilots don't know is that I've hidden quite a few decoy blocks inside of their machines. It's called the winox ii. I changed it a little bit. I added a another Canon under the nose in the center of the ship for better accuracy and the two rocket pods on the edges were replaced with again more cannons and the two machine guns were also replaced with more cannons. The Auto cannons are amazing
nice little fighters for the small and deadly i build drones with this in mind my manned fighting ships/vehicles are a bit bigger ( around 1200 small blocks with strong thrust and deadly weaponry usually i can take down 10 drones before going for repair/rearm/refuel the new updates made alot of changes to fighters in general
its not that bad apparently the small hydrogen tanks dont cause much damage to the ones near it i was worried about that aswell when the new update came out
Looks good! Would you have different variants covering different roles, like an assault fighter to attack assertive installations? That would use rockets a bit more, maybe 3-5 rockets and 4-2 miniguns? That though might be creeping more into the role of a medium fighter instead.
What about 'torpedo bomber' type craft, like using remote guided missiles? As a general idea, considering the kinds of ships fighters normally encounter?
Excellent info, and that final tiny design is super efficient and effective
Most small grids will not last more than a few minutes (sometimes seconds)
during actual combat.
Cheap, stylish and quick to repair. Great work!
Yeah I've come to the conclusion that for small grid fighters, power to weight ratio keeps you alive vs relying on the relatively useless heavy armor when it comes to dodging incoming fire (usually bullets). Having good front/back engines is great, BUT making sure you also have at least one other axis with really good engines. Either sideways or vertical works. You want to be able to juke or "strafe" on either axis while still maintaining your guns on target as best as possible.
Now heavy small grid blocks can be useful, but considering the mass to power ratio, the ability to take one extra auto turret bullet can depend entirely on your design. Can you afford the take a bullet or two on a heavy armor strip across engine ports? Sure maybe useful. Heavy block on the front facing sections only, while using light armor for everything else? May be ok too if you can maintain your acceleration / power to weight ratio.
So many designs and approaches always makes this so much fun!
@@Slovflyer all excellent advice, for a long time I underestimated the power of small grids, their mobility and miniscule cross-section is their strength.
In the hands of a skilled pilot, a single fight can do a moderate amount of damage to a decent sized frieghter/cruiser
Especially if you can bait them into gravity range, where a few well placed missiles might spell inevitable falling doom.
If this thing had a projector, all it would have to do is just rub up against some welders and the whole thing would be fixed. It kind of reminds me of a clownfish.
i think this is the first ever youtube video i've watched that's actually given me motion sickness lmao
all that camera movement
loooool
"The strongest for it's size". That os a nice philosophy. Hard to hit, and more resistent than expected. It's a nice plan for a ship
Ah yes, the "long rod" strategy. Make your ship in a shape of a long rod that is always pointing at the enemy. That way you only need a minimum amount of armor to protect it. I use similar strategy for my drones, but I actually do use heavy armor. Just only a small section that is in front of the craft, like 10 armor blocks won't slow down your craft *that* much, but make a huge difference in how long it survives.
Can you make a blueprint link of that latest design or maybe a vid showing how you did de core of that ship?
This is so cool seeing the process you went through to from the first ship to the more optimized versions! As a total noob fighter builder, this video is very helpful. Also good to know I shouldnt make heavy armor brick fighters XD
Not going to lie the constant movine the camera around and changing the view makes the beginning viewing of the video very hard to watch. ADD in full swing.
My exact thought too :(. But good info I think. It made it hard for me to pay attention so I honestly don't know.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It was cool to see. I like that the end results is so fast, so hard to hit hand still looks so good. Great engineering!
Small grid fighters can get a lot of extra punch if you equip them with homing missiles. I made a
This is actually helpful, i was literally building a brick because i thought i needed a heavy armored vehicle.
bro... you gotta put that final one on the workshop. I could try to copy it but a blueprint would be great
Would you consider using the armor plates to cover the hydrogen tanks? Do you have any issues with the deformation destroying blocks after only a few shots?
You should do more videos like this. Good job
Very good and useful pointers
Great video. Great points. Valuable knowledge shared. Thumbs up.
The keys are extremely loud.
Appreciate you sharing your thought process.
Have you optimized this fighter for the new weapons we got with Warfare 2?
Brother you can’t be flicking the camera around so much like that I’m getting seasick lol
is the fighter on the workshop, im working on a carrier and looking into fighter designs and build my hangar capacity around a final fighter design, i like this one the best
Thx for sharing
I stole a fighter like this. That's exactly what I wanted. Something small something cheap something I can deploy in Mass. Kind of like a TIE fighter or F5. This thing has two jobs, intercept small craft and harass larger ones drawing the fire away from its own larger ships. What my fighter pilots don't know is that I've hidden quite a few decoy blocks inside of their machines. It's called the winox ii. I changed it a little bit. I added a another Canon under the nose in the center of the ship for better accuracy and the two rocket pods on the edges were replaced with again more cannons and the two machine guns were also replaced with more cannons. The Auto cannons are amazing
Thank you youtube for showing this video!
The info in this video is realy good man. I'll be implementing those lessons in my new fighters.
Damn, the exact vid I was looking for, thank you!
nice little fighters for the small and deadly i build drones with this in mind my manned fighting ships/vehicles are a bit bigger ( around 1200 small blocks with strong thrust and deadly weaponry usually i can take down 10 drones before going for repair/rearm/refuel the new updates made alot of changes to fighters in general
The camera movement kills Me the commentary is great
In my experience hitting stuff with rockets isn't even that hard but I still tend to use them only if the chance to hit is near to 100.
That will help me make better fighter, and the new update if the fuel tank in the back get hit then bye for you thruster ,but the new one look nice.
its not that bad apparently the small hydrogen tanks dont cause much damage to the ones near it i was worried about that aswell when the new update came out
Looks good! Would you have different variants covering different roles, like an assault fighter to attack assertive installations? That would use rockets a bit more, maybe 3-5 rockets and 4-2 miniguns? That though might be creeping more into the role of a medium fighter instead.
Workshop?
This was really helpful
is the most optimized one in the workshop?
Awesome vid!
I am I tell only one that doesn't see any backwards thurster, are they hidden or not needed?
there hidden in the core of it
Very cool!
awesome class.,
but that thing? is capable of Survival combat?, like ., have conveyor lines?
yep they all can be used in survival
What about 'torpedo bomber' type craft, like using remote guided missiles? As a general idea, considering the kinds of ships fighters normally encounter?
Clunky on servers. You dont have time needed to deploy them. Tidios to produce and rearm. Better just to kamizie small grid with warheads.
Nice!