So many thanks for posting this. I ordered the chip and speaker yesterday from Digitrains, arrived this morning and by 12 noon, my class 08 was tooting away! Magic!
Oh David, that is really lovely to hear and it certainly bridges the gap. I will look into this again when Hornby release their new smaller power banks as would find this the only model in the TT:120 range in need of one until the j50 comes along, possibly, and if your track and points aren’t in peak order 👍
That’s what I thought. Don’t try force body back down. When speaker is located right, it will go back in place but, a bit of jiggling may well be needed. Just keep calm if it takes several attempts first time you try. For insulation a cheap roll of capton tape off eBay is far better than insulation tape, which holds in any residual heat and is too thick for the job tbh, if you’re using a bit to cover decoder.
Ps as some people are very static or may have greasy hands, a pair of those tight fitting surgical gloves 🧤 are something to be recommended if not, always avoid touching the decoders component parts and minimal handling only, at sides. 👍
That's real nice . The one thing with modelling that I don't like Is the cost and in a lot of cases trying to obtain spares . When it comes to soldering small stuff I rest my hand on a block as have slight tremor. Just seen the latest news from London. Hope they get under control fast.
I've just ordered the BR Blue 08 for an upcoming TT:120 build I'll be doing on a new channel and was perplexed as to the unavailability of the 6-pin decoders. This video was very informative and has pushed me towards the This Way Works 8-pin HM7000 install as it's a much cheaper option, even if it does require some high speed sanding. Thanks.
@@Froobyone 👍 with you now and yes the cheaper option if you’re prepared to risk the decoder soldering too, as the plug on the loco has to be snipped off.
I’m actually considering going with the Zimo decoders instead of the Hornby ones as they seem to be more versatile and I’m not planning to use Bluetooth anymore as I want to be able to have full automation. That’s why I have bought Itrain and the Rocco, Z21
@@stevio7777 Electro Magnetic Field given off by gadgets and the the build up as we add more. Remember that video where someone cooked an egg by surrounding it with four mobiles on call 🥚
Ingenious. Although it just goes to show what good value the Hornby HM7000 decoders are if they are available. The option you used pretty much doubles the cost of the loco (£125 for the decoder and speaker).
It does, it fits but, cost, that’s the rub. The Zimo sound files from Digitrains do sound good and love the vocal conversations included though it has to be said.
I like you, Andy are using iTrain and Roco Z21 to control my TT, 120 I’ve yet to add sound to my 08. Does DCC solder the speaker to the decoder for you? Ta
👍 Yes it came soldered on, didn’t expect that but, so glad it was. The sales guy I talked with there was very helpful indeed and they do fit these as a service too if required so having that vital experience which they shared
I’ve fitted the decoder, programmed it and got the sounds working. I use the Roco Z21 command station in conjunction with iTrain. But also use the Z21 app on my iPad to program the loco. when I tried it on my test layout it struggled a bit and when I tapped on the engine sound it cut out and I got a red light on the Z21 denoting a short. Now I can’t even reset it because as soon as I place it on the layout or program track it cuts out. Doh!
Oh dear. I had this kind of reaction when I first fit a Loksound into my first Scotsman. Before doing so I’d followed the then official do’s and don’ts and attempted to run the loco in analogue mode via my elite controller. The blanking plug smoked and when I fit the Loksound decoder it did exactly what you say is happening to yours now. Struggled and then gave an ‘error’ message on my cut out elite, every time I tried to connect it again. I sent the decoder back and it was kindly replaced as decoders can either work or fail. On return I then sent the whole lot back to Hornby. They tested the loco to say it was okay. Have no idea what they found or did but, as the Loksound wasn’t theirs said they wouldn’t touch that and also changed the advice about analogue running. I’m still not sure if it was because of what I uncovered or not. I fit the Loksound and it all ran fine. Your situation is different as you’ve added a wired on speaker too and you’re running on a Roco system not an Elite or as with my itrain system a Digitrax system. I trust your other TT:120 locos run with the Roco, yes/no/don’t have others?
Ps After eliminating the Roco app, you could try removing the sound decoder, speaker, etc and put the original blanking plug back in and test the loco is running with a 9 volt battery across the rails. You don’t have to put the body back. If it’s not the loco needs to go back to be looked at I’d say. If it does run back and forth then that’s at least eliminating that side as well.
@@modeloco I’ve run the 08 around the test track DC. when it still had the DC blanking plate in and it ran around great even over the unifrog points that are not wired up without any problem. I’ll have take the zimo out and mess around with it cheers
Nice job, I fitted the non sound version of the decoder with a Lais stay alive, superb low speed performance down to scale 1/4mph! I had filled the radiator end with extra weight where you have popped the speaker in. Black Tac is great for securing components, doesn’t get affected by heat like Blue Tac can. 08 is a superb model in TT 😁
So many thanks for posting this. I ordered the chip and speaker yesterday from Digitrains, arrived this morning and by 12 noon, my class 08 was tooting away! Magic!
Oh David, that is really lovely to hear and it certainly bridges the gap. I will look into this again when Hornby release their new smaller power banks as would find this the only model in the TT:120 range in need of one until the j50 comes along, possibly, and if your track and points aren’t in peak order 👍
Just ordered the chip and speaker and going to try the installation, thank you.🇦🇺👍
That’s what I thought. Don’t try force body back down. When speaker is located right, it will go back in place but, a bit of jiggling may well be needed. Just keep calm if it takes several attempts first time you try. For insulation a cheap roll of capton tape off eBay is far better than insulation tape, which holds in any residual heat and is too thick for the job tbh, if you’re using a bit to cover decoder.
Ps as some people are very static or may have greasy hands, a pair of those tight fitting surgical gloves 🧤 are something to be recommended if not, always avoid touching the decoders component parts and minimal handling only, at sides. 👍
That's real nice . The one thing with modelling that I don't like Is the cost and in a lot of cases trying to obtain spares .
When it comes to soldering small stuff I rest my hand on a block as have slight tremor.
Just seen the latest news from London. Hope they get under control fast.
There’s definitely an upgrade in models over the last decade. Good to hear your thoughts and feelings 👍
Thanks Andy must have missed this vid
Hope all is going well with your layout 🛤️
I've just ordered the BR Blue 08 for an upcoming TT:120 build I'll be doing on a new channel and was perplexed as to the unavailability of the 6-pin decoders. This video was very informative and has pushed me towards the This Way Works 8-pin HM7000 install as it's a much cheaper option, even if it does require some high speed sanding. Thanks.
Yes, Richard has done some incredible things. Was very tempted too but, really wanted to have a go myself. Cheaper… mmm
@@modeloco I just hope I can follow his instructions properly. Doesn't help that I'm colour-blind. heh.
@@Froobyone 👍 with you now and yes the cheaper option if you’re prepared to risk the decoder soldering too, as the plug on the loco has to be snipped off.
If I remember correctly Richard wanted £350. So it’s not the cheaper option as far as I’m concerned 🤔
@@stevio7777 I did the modification myself.
I’m actually considering going with the Zimo decoders instead of the Hornby ones as they seem to be more versatile and I’m not planning to use Bluetooth anymore as I want to be able to have full automation. That’s why I have bought Itrain and the Rocco, Z21
Get you yes. The Zimo are great. No build up of EMF if that’s a concern at all but, they are double the cost ?!?!?!
@@modeloco sorry mate what’s EMF🤣
@@stevio7777 Electro Magnetic Field given off by gadgets and the the build up as we add more. Remember that video where someone cooked an egg by surrounding it with four mobiles on call 🥚
Great video. :) Love the content! Liked and Subbed! Cheers, Andy
:) This was a great way to greet a new day 👍
Ingenious. Although it just goes to show what good value the Hornby HM7000 decoders are if they are available. The option you used pretty much doubles the cost of the loco (£125 for the decoder and speaker).
It does, it fits but, cost, that’s the rub. The Zimo sound files from Digitrains do sound good and love the vocal conversations included though it has to be said.
I take it that they download the sound file on to the decoders 👌
Wasn’t notified about this comment, just seen it? Yes these are chosen when you order and added by the retailer 👍
@@modeloco I’m just in the process of getting one from them ta
@stevio7777 just make sure as I didn’t first time, to get decoder plugged in correct way round. Got spoilt I guess with Hornby’s being clearer 👍
Great video good to see you again
Thanks Ian 👍
I like you, Andy are using iTrain and Roco Z21 to control my TT, 120 I’ve yet to add sound to my 08. Does DCC solder the speaker to the decoder for you?
Ta
👍 Yes it came soldered on, didn’t expect that but, so glad it was. The sales guy I talked with there was very helpful indeed and they do fit these as a service too if required so having that vital experience which they shared
I’ve fitted the decoder, programmed it and got the sounds working. I use the Roco Z21 command station in conjunction with iTrain.
But also use the Z21 app on my iPad to program the loco. when I tried it on my test layout it struggled a bit and when I tapped on the engine sound it cut out and I got a red light on the Z21 denoting a short.
Now I can’t even reset it because as soon as I place it on the layout or program track it cuts out. Doh!
Oh dear. I had this kind of reaction when I first fit a Loksound into my first Scotsman. Before doing so I’d followed the then official do’s and don’ts and attempted to run the loco in analogue mode via my elite controller. The blanking plug smoked and when I fit the Loksound decoder it did exactly what you say is happening to yours now. Struggled and then gave an ‘error’ message on my cut out elite, every time I tried to connect it again. I sent the decoder back and it was kindly replaced as decoders can either work or fail. On return I then sent the whole lot back to Hornby. They tested the loco to say it was okay. Have no idea what they found or did but, as the Loksound wasn’t theirs said they wouldn’t touch that and also changed the advice about analogue running. I’m still not sure if it was because of what I uncovered or not. I fit the Loksound and it all ran fine.
Your situation is different as you’ve added a wired on speaker too and you’re running on a Roco system not an Elite or as with my itrain system a Digitrax system. I trust your other TT:120 locos run with the Roco, yes/no/don’t have others?
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Ps After eliminating the Roco app, you could try removing the sound decoder, speaker, etc and put the original blanking plug back in and test the loco is running with a 9 volt battery across the rails. You don’t have to put the body back. If it’s not the loco needs to go back to be looked at I’d say. If it does run back and forth then that’s at least eliminating that side as well.
@@modeloco I’ve run the 08 around the test track DC. when it still had the DC blanking plate in and it ran around great even over the unifrog points that are not wired up without any problem. I’ll have take the zimo out and mess around with it cheers
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does the Zimo decoder come with the uncouple shuffle as an option?
I’m pretty sure it does. Will investigate though hopefully later today
Nice job, I fitted the non sound version of the decoder with a Lais stay alive, superb low speed performance down to scale 1/4mph! I had filled the radiator end with extra weight where you have popped the speaker in. Black Tac is great for securing components, doesn’t get affected by heat like Blue Tac can. 08 is a superb model in TT 😁
@@HighFell Black tac is on my list 👍👍
Wish it had lights
Me too. There is a guy that’ll fit them for you. Including the roof amber flashing warning light that this Class 08 has