WI v. Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Day 2 - Direct - Det. Martin Howard - Kenosha PD
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- Опубліковано 2 лис 2021
- Live Coverage: WI v. Kyle Rittenhouse - Kenosha Shooting
Happening in Court
Continued Direct Exam of Koerri Washington-Facebook Influencer
Facebook Live Video Of Night of Shooting by Mr. Washington
Direct Exam of Det. Martin Howard - Kenosha PD
Charges:
1. First Degree Reckless Homicide, Use of a Deadly Weapon (Joseph Rosenbaum)
2. First Degree Recklessly Endangering Safety, Use of a Deadly Weapon (Richard
McGinnis, reporter for Daily Caller, not injured but near Rosenbaum when Rittenhoue
fired)
3. First Degree Recklessly Endangering Safety, Use of a Deadly Weapon (unknown male)
4. First Degree Intentional Homicide, Use of a Deadly Weapon (Anthony Huber)
5. Attempt First Degree Intentional Homicide, Use of a Deadly Weapon (Gaige
Grosskreutz)
6. Possession of a Dangerous Weapon by a Person under the Age of 18
7. Fail to Comply with Order of Local Government - Emergency Management Activity
(citation, carries no penalty) - everyone present was breaking the 7pm curfew issued by
the sheriff.
JURY CHOSEN IN ONE DAY. 20 jurors have been selected in WI v. Kyle Rittenhouse. 9 men and 11 women. (8 are alternates)
Rittenhouse shot and killed Joseph Rosenbaum, 26, and Anthony Huber, 26, and injured Gaige Grosskreutz, 27. Prosecutors say that Rittenhouse, then 17 and from Illinois, was a vigilante looking for a fight. He, like other right-wingers, went to Kenosha, Wisconsin ostensibly to protect property. This happened as protests over police shooting local man Jacob Blake turned violent. Rittenhouse’s attorneys assert he was acting in self-defense. This case became a cause célèbre among conservatives.
Prosecutors have struggled in court, failing to introduce evidence of prior aggressive behavior. This included evidence showing him attacking a woman who was in an altercation with his sister. The other is that he was closely linked to the violent, far-right Proud Boys organization.
Kenosha County Judge Bruce Schroeder said an appellate court would reverse him if he allowed these in trial. The evidence was too prejudicial, he said. He left it up in the air whether he would allow footage showing someone identified as Rittenhouse discussing a Black man exiting a CVS pharmacy. Rittenhouse believed the man was shoplifting.
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Is the prosecutor part of the defense team. cause he's making a great case for self defense
To be honest with you, This seems more of a dog and pony show. I'm fairly confident that if this case wouldn't of had national attention, it would of been an open and shut self defense case. But b/c politics are what they are, they are going through the rigmarole of a full trail, but I don't think the prosecutor nor the judge feel that this is anything other than going through the motion.
So FBI had surveillance on the scene and no law enforcement was called in to arrest the arsonists?
Exactly! Tells a lot about what they really think
FBI drone footage of that night... so we are gonna have arson and vandalism charges coming right?
For what? You mean the “mostly peaceful” arsons? In the words of this judge, “c’mon!” Lmao justice never gets served to leftists on balance.
Nahhhhh, that would be anti-narrative.
the fbi is not in the business of investigating crimes from those on the left or mentally ill.
the refusal to service a warrant for one individual that has never been deferred on those grounds before or since smells like malicious prosecution to me
Yup!
Police didnt record the interview with the criminal armed with a handgun pointing it at Kyles face ?
Yup, something smells fishy here? Why isn't mr bicep-less being charged as a felon in possession of a gun?
Yea those cameras are on every interview that is very strange
That’s correct. They are incompetent
And somehow the FBI lost a lot of the video...Gee no surprise there!
Because he’s their star witness and their precious. All these things and of course much more is why this was noticed by the jury that this was a BS case. KR was defending himself. He could have shot Gaige in the back as he ran but he didn’t, he only stopped the treat by shooting the arm that had the gun.
If I was the judge this case would be over. I'd see the video, sent Kyle home immediately and issue a warrant for the the rest.
I would even give the boy a medal for protecting the community from arsonist and rioters
that's why you're not a judge
@@Sarcasmses Ha yup. And also why I should never hold any true power.
I have been following this case very closely and listening to the actual court proceedings. I have a true desire of wanting both justice and fairness. It’s really hard to understand how the DA office can proceed with the charges KR is fighting when the lead deputy DA’s own witnesses seem to be supporting a self defense claim with their testimony. Maybe KR, his legal guardian at the time (he was 17), the protection squad he was with or the guy that bought the rifle should be facing some liability for the deaths….but murder seems to be an overcharge and I would think the prosecutors lose credibility with the jury for not seeking truth and justice in this matter. Also, this is the prosecutor’s biggest case he will ever try and he can’t even learn the basics of firearm safety or components of the AR platform. He looks ridiculous not knowing the appropriate terminology, he is going to lose the respect of those jurors who have some basic knowledge of gun safety.
That FBI footage literally makes the defenses case….
And for some reason, the prosecution keeps using the FBI footage. I can't understand why you'd use evidence which destroys your case against a defendant...
@@RubberusDuckus They don't necessarily want to only show things that exclusively help their case, if they fail to present all those details and then the defence introduces them, it'll make the prosecution's case seem a lot weaker
Their goal is to present a reasonably complete sequence of events and argue that it's a crime, not just leave out a bunch of key stuff and let the defence dunk on them with it later
Kyle obviously called no joy and retreated. Self defense without a doubt.
I appreciate the Rittster and the guy with the camera because now I have a first rate photo of what one 5.56 ball ammo will do to the human arm and bicep at close range. Thank you, Kyle!
I thought the same thing :) .... the 5.56 is not much bigger than your little pop gun .22 caliber, but with much more powder behind it... man, that little slug can do some really impressive damage... Thanks Kyle, good job!!!!
Wow, I get to see a circle jerk in the comments from a couple of profiles that could’ve called a recruiter. Thanks Kyle, you’re cooked!
@@Brotha00 its called curiosity and the shots couldn't have been tested on better dummies.
In just what i've seen so far, if i was the judge this case would be dismissed and I'd go after the investigators and the prosecutor for wrongful prosecutions!
If that happened then the prosecution can call for a mistrial and go after him again, not the case if its a jury verdict.
almost seems like the detective wants the state to lose their case
Anyone else think it’s weird fbi was watching from a plane in that exact spot at the exact time
well considering thats where the Fire and Rioting was happening im sure they are watching alot of things, not surprising even being in the military and deployed you would be amazed to see everything they are watching ...
The ppl who run the city's that allowed this bs to play out should be on trial!!
-- Am I dumb? Did the detective say to the prosecutor Kyle gave chase, then to the Defense, that he didn't give chase? Has anyone mentioned Kyle probably had no idea where that first shot came from, or if it was in his direction, or if he knew the bag was thrown at him, or what was in it? Naw. I know I'm dumb, but I can't be that dumb.
If I was a betting man Id wager that - some people - have been talking about the case outside of the courtroom
He’s correct.
@@nala9101 To clarify youre saying he shouldve never had an AR?
@@nala9101 why not? Is was completely legal for him to have a long gun
Justice for Kyle. He should be set free with all charges dropped, be given $20 million for his pain and suffering by malicious prosecution.
Watching this trial has me really confused why Kyle is even there and all the criminals in the video clips aren’t.
bcause kyle is the ONLY person in the whole episode that killed ppl.
@@james123stewart Sure is a shame what the colored are getting away with these days.
@@alphasmurf6563 they have no choice. They're victims and need to rob you in order for uhh justice
were you ordered to stand down or ignore crimes being committed that night??????????????????????/
Kyle is OUR HERO!!
@Charlie Allen There’s no such thing as an illegal firearm. No one needs to ask permission from any government to own or carry a firearm.
This case should never have even gone to trial, absolutely pathetic what the government will do to ruin the lives of ordinary people
The state should be sued for allowing looting n protesting to take place for days!
Ofgs! 🤔🧠?
Who care about billion business they had insurance
@@DMJ160 the state can still be sued ppl do it everyday!
@@USAMAURICE42 Who cares???? Everyone who pays for insurance should care whatever it is. That mindset is part of the problem in this country. Maybe you don't pay insurance premiums for anything? If not? Then your mindset makes sense.
@@USAMAURICE42 that's part of the problem ppl dont care..where are your morals...oh that's right you have none
Kyle has a real man for his defense. Thank goodness. Free Kyle. Prosecutor nailed the Something About Mary look!!
This defense attorney is phenomenal
I totally agree. And at the same time so far the case the prosecution is putting up does not make it hard for the defense attorney to look good
I would be asking as to why zaminski was never charged with theft, arson, and reckless endangerment with a firearm although he is seen on video commuting the crimes. This is nuts.
Zaminksy, McGuiness, and Rosenbaum had this planned. McGuiness chased Kyle in the direction of Rosenbaum, who was waiting in ambush, while Zaminsky waited for the right time to shoot and provoke Kyle. They wanted Kyle to start shooting at people. This was planned.
@@BWGB1204 I can see that. And they sent the unstable guy who was just released from the psych ward that morning after a suicide attempt to kick it off. That could certainly be the case.
The State of Wisconsin should give Rittenhouse a CITIZEN'S VALOR AWARD!
Self defense, period! Stop trying to think BEYOND what actually happened. He defended himself, period,
@Charlie Allen lmao nice try, Kyle didn't even buy that gun himself...
So if I went and got a rifle and shot those people who was riding the Capital would you have the same opinion? Smh
@Charlie Allen LoL...Clearly you have not been following the case. You're making daft remarks for no reason..
Why was he acting like the infrared video was some huge piece of evidence for the prosecution? It doesn't really seem to add anything that we didn't already see
If anything is helps defense. There was small gap in video record this fills it in.
Imagine, FBI was monitoring from air and probably ground. Maybe the so called person who they can’t find is? They don’t want to find him or they know who he is!!
@@dhmrdh imagine having the taxpayer funded police and FBI sitting by and just letting arson looting rioters destroy your business and livelihood. Cool infrared drone the taxpayers paid for nice footage. Aren't police and FBI supposed to stop people from burning down cities?
@@Cornpop-N-DaBoyz they're also supposed to release the information to the defense and prosecution asap instead of holding onto this footage for so long. Literally proves kyle was defending himself
@@weevie_stilfat the initial video clearly shows self defense but the infrared aeriel footage really shows how rosenbaum was showing predator like behavior before ambushing kyle
And THAT officer SWORE to "protect and serve"!! Absolutely appalling.
New drinking game = take a drink every time prosecutor looks confused lol
Thanks for your service Kyle….. You should be free…..
@Charlie Allen Amazes me with so much info out there, there is a you..Firearm was not illegally purchased, it was given to him in Kenosha by the adult friend who went with him that night and has the right to let someone under the age of 18 to 16 use it under their supervision. Yes...you are just a dummy.
@Charlie Allen wooah nelly. First you'd have to prove that he committed murder for there to be a felony, in which case he'll get life anyway. If it's self defense then no felony crime committed but he might face minor changes of acquiring a gun illegally which is maximum 18 months i believe
@True West rubbish. He went looking for victims. Didn't need a rifle that night.
@Charlie Allen misdemeeanor
@@jenniferrae6646 he absolutely needed a rifle that night. Dead attackers who conveniently were criminals before (in most cases) are proof kyle needed an AR to dispose of them. Kyle did a public service
they need a couple of 5th graders in there to run the tech hahahahah
If Kyle looses this case it's because his lawyer is awful
The prosecution has already won Kyle's case. Kyle will be free soon.
@@Danny-vk3xb yes Kyle greatest defender is the prosecutor
It comes down to the jury
Never u derestimate how effrctive fear can be considering they'll likely get raked over the coals and are likely already getting threats
This such an easy self defense case
NOT GUILTY
Beautiful self defense
The police should not be able to hold people under that threat if you do not give us permission we are not giving you your phone back
what happened to the 4k video the FBI had, i guess since in benefited kyle it was magically "lost"
Mr. Pocket Square sounds really condescending when he makes objections. I'm sure that's a strategy that will play well in front of a Kenosha jury. :roll eyes:
Oh, we all know whose side you're on!
@@jenniferrae6646 well that fbi footage single handedly showed that Kyle is innocent. Without a doubt.
Prosecution's objections are weaker than wet toilet paper.
I object to Kyle even being charged with anything. The kid was clearly being chased down and attacked and he defended himself.
I don’t have a lot of faith in a jury going by the facts after the chauvin trial
I am really interested to see how the prosecutor tries to make a case for first degree murder in any of the cases. Or any illegal homicide at any degree. So far the defense has presented so much evidence of self defense. He even turned himself in and volunteered access to his phone when there was no other option to enforce the search warrant. Meanwhile the police applied Marsy's law for the first and only time in Kenosha's history and did not fulfill a search warrant for another participant in these events. They aslo did not arrest one of the participants for posession of marijuana and could appear as favoritism to him and as an incentive to testify against Rittenhouse in order to get leniency.
Totally crazy. First degree murder when you are attacked and try to retreat?
Stop sounding sane. We all saw a 17 year old kid just trying to stay alive, but his age and a curfew means he doesn't have the right to self-defense.
@@no-sway3709 This will be the prosecutions whole closing argument in a single sentence.
Devil advocate here how can a person claim self defense by intentionally putting themself in harms way underaged kid illegally taking a gun across state lines to illegally walk the streets with it knowingly confronting looters and rioters ? AT what point is this kid justified had he been home playing Xbox like a normal kid two people would be alive and this trial wouldn’t even be taking place Just playing devils advocate his verdict either way means nothing to me
@@nivebmartinez5241 at the point where he did not initiate violence, yet violence was initiated against him. It's really that simple.
None of those other factors make any difference. You don't get to assault people just because they are underage and breaking a city ordinance, or carrying a gun, even if they brought it "across state lines"(which isn't where the gun came from)
Can someone tell me if this is the first time Martin has been on the stand? The way this vid starts it seems like it's actually part 2 because the prosecution spends not time at all and sounds like they're not starting at the beginning. But I can't find a part 1 in a search so far. This is the earliest part I can find and then apparently there is a day 3 continued part for Martin.
Kyle Rittenhouse is a true American hero and should think about joining the Army Rangers as a medic,his shots were on target and he only took out the immediate deadly threats, job well done.
Eww lol
Excellent cross!
I'm not from the US, but it is my understanding you cannot carry a weapon like that unless you are 18? From what I can see by the defense, the videos, and the lack of competence from the prosecution, this is a clear case of self defense. But if was not aloud to carry a weapon like that legally, where does that leave him in terms of possible charges? Unlawful discharge of a fire arm causing death? Manslaughter?
I'm pretty sure its legal for him to possess said firearm, it's illegal for him to buy it.
@@johnbuck9536 gotcha. Thanks. Cause if not it seems like a mess of a case, other than the fact it was still self defense.
@@chrisxl5152 The prosecution isn’t going after Rittenhouse for being under age with a rifle. They know to prosecute him for that juvenile offense doesn’t make sense to then also charge him as a adult for the shootings. It’s one or the other, trial his as a adult completely or as a juvenile completely, you can’t have it both ways.
@@SpecterSeventy2 He is actually being charged with having the AR while underage. Welcome to the American justice system. It doesn't look very likely to stick but it's not as impossible as a murder conviction.
Under the state law you can claim self defense even if you are in possession of the weapon illegally. You have a higher burden of duty before you can claim defense, but many have said he easily meets even that higher burden as he was in full withdrawal from the situation and being pursued before firing a shot. So even if the possession charge manages to stick, which is sounding an awful lot like it won't, it wouldn't kill the defense, just make it a bit harder, but nothing that puts self defense out of reach.
Hmmm. You failed to describe the 3 dudes as rioters but succeeded in using the term "right wingers". Prejudiced much?
Hilarious the procecutor just proved the defendents case for him
Parts of this are frustrating to watch because the prosecutor hasn't a clue about the rule against hearsay. OMG. I'm just gobsmacked. I cannot believe that any trial attorney with any degree of experience doesn't have a better grasp of what hearsay is. This guy is a friggin idiot. I'm just beside myself. Incomprehensible how he doesn't understand hearsay.
Maybe it's you who doesn't!
Kyle got many bad breaks - media spreads hate against him, prosecutor is dis-honest. The biggest thing on Kyle's side is Binger's stupidity.
@@muskepticsometimes9133 oh, please, proof of that dishonesty. Media spreads hate? Where have we heard that before! 🤔🙄 .. 🍊.. Are we watching the same trial?
@@jenniferrae6646quite a few words to say nothing
He is just hoping to get something past the judge. This is normal prosecution behavior.
At a little after 55 min. mark. Uhhh....the judge disallowed the detective from giving his expert opinion on whether a "classic ambush" was being setup? And the prosecuter said, "this is something the jury can decide". And how is the jury going to decide that without knowing what the different types of groups assaults are? Is the jury an expert on this stuff? No. That's the whole point of calling expert witnesses.
So the detective can't comment on the style of attack, and this leaves the jury to guess. I'm just a layman, but this sounds like a bad call by the judge.
I think he is innocent tho he madee a huge mistake
I agree he shouldn't have been there with a rife. I also believe if it had been any other person with some discipline and good aim the outcome could be the exact same.
@@HENRYBERRYLOWRY1845 Many people were armed, on both sides. Kyle was unlucky enough to get attacked by violent felon fresh from mental hospital.
@@HENRYBERRYLOWRY1845 He actually was quite disciplined with that rifle. Even after being kicked in the head he didn't fire indiscriminatly. He only shot people actively attacking him. He really should have fired more rounds at Grosskreutz. In that situation you shoot until the attacker is down and not moving.
TOO many THINKERS (NOT) in this chat. Just keep THINKIN'. You'll have a great future, hopefully...
Any chance of not cutting off the defense today?
Who put the CHAIN in the St. JAMES CHURCH for Rosenbaum to pick up and use against a person as a weapon?
He got it off the trailer.
Kyle is a hero
A major hero.
Let that poor boy go,he showed great restraint with that weapon,and only shot the people attacking him.
After the fbi video....they should all just go home because it’s a waste of time after it.
This whole event is not a lot different than the Zimmerman-Martin shooting and trial.
The times and the repercussions are different.
It’s 2021 and Zimmerman hasn’t been able to stay in the same place long, he’s a troubled man. I wonder if he would change things now.
@ImTheTopic The two cases seem to come down to whether the defendant is a murderer or was acting in self defense, as l see it. Of course there are endless differences in the two cases.
This is interesting .... Kyle must be acquitted of all charges. That said, as a civilian, NEVER GO ANYWHERE WITH A GUN THAT YOU WOULD NOT GO W/O A GUN. JUST DON'T GO INTO IFFY SITUS....
Living in or around the Milwaukee area... That is kind of a difficult thing to do. To be honest oh, I can use that same applied logic to any large city in the US.
Double true.
I feel stupid. Can someone please tell me what the 1980s arcade machine sounds mean....
Supposed to be a new high score so the attorneys can keep track of who's winning.
@@jurascipakre9200 best answer. I don't care what the real reason is; this is my new religion
Thank you! I thought, what the heck is that?
76/10ths of a second? That makes no sense.
I’ve just noticed on Twitter that whole racket is family the district attorney the police officer in charge the mayor all family
And they've been working full time for months trying to lock Kyle in a cage for the next 70 years until Kyle's dead, for making split second decisions that saved him from harm or death. The prosecutor is a psychopathic danger to society. Premeditated evil. He should go to prison after Kyle's set free.
Ai yi yii.
The judge is confused.
The defense is confused.
Not exactly a good start.
judge tippin a lil bourbon during trial to balance out the day. nothing wrong with that lol.
A good film editor time-sync all films together... Add names...
The judge knows the law but doesn’t seem to quick or with it. Almost like he’s distracted and has to have each objection repeated cuz he’s not listening. Seems too old
@Charlie Allen why’s he in trial for murder then?
This isn't the direct. This was the cross.
that thumbnail
Free Kyle innocent do the right thing
@Charlie Allen you actually think all the firearms used that night were legally registered to the one doing the shooting....really!!🙄
@@pikassion420 well now, you tell us! You seem to think you know everything about everything, that nobody else seems too!
@True West you didn't want to watch that FBI video did you? Rittenhouse playing cat n mouse with his victim!
@@jenniferrae6646 it's in the constitution
Self defense
@Charlie Allen The firearm charge against Kyle is misdemeanor
Wait isn’t this “ mutual” combat then ?
It's considered "Mortal Combat" because he finished him.
It’s not Chicago lmao
How is this a direct exam when he is the states witness wouldn't that be a cross exam?
Direct exam is questions to your witness.
Cross exam is questioning the opposing side's witness.
@@lisakay8798 I thought so and the detergent was the states witness
Marcus law??? Oh okay who brought that up??? He says a group but a group is never the first person to mutter the words 🙄
COMMON SENSE RULES!! Just like KARMA!!!
Where's the Proud Boys now?
Real friends come to your defense.
Cant claim self defense when you were not legally aloud to posses the gun in the first place.
Wisconsin law has a lot of loopholes and gray areas in that aspect. And b t w, you can possess a weapon as a minor, you just cannot purchase one.
Sure you can. Can't claim to be a victim when you are a felon in a possession of gun, chasing another person and firing the first shot. CASE CLOSED.
@@EJ257IHI well, now that he's gotten his weapon taken away, I guess he's going to have to learn how to fight and build up his arm strength... Oh wait...
@morally, (1) Wrong, illegally possessing a firearm does not negate the right to self defense. (2) Wrong, It actually IS legal for a 17 y/o to possess a long rifle. (but not a short barrel rifle nor a short barrel shot gun).
When speaking goes wrong, know your subject and area of concern before you try to speak about it... thanks
Yah People show what snakes they are & what their about in the end
Wonder how close any officers were to wear this took place ud thinknif they were watching ud think they fould call amd say he go to this area which in turn could of despaired the whole thing
Amd Kyle was called there by someone to help.right? Seems alot os missing to the events leading to this
Never ask a question as a lawyer that you don’t already know the answer too.
Neo Ned Flanders needs to step it up.
Everyone should do themselves a favorite and look at The Subway vigilante case. this case will most likely have a similar outcome
And Rittenhouse probably has a better case than Bernhard Goetz on the illegal firearm possession and the circumstances of his self defense
Kyle attorneys are not that good
look it a bird its a plane not its the prosecution's falling to earth while bursting into flames
@@Brotha00 na man just want to be a better me . i was wrong for the way i that spoke to you ,take care god bless you and yours.
running with a gun from a crime scene......
Here we go selective recordings oh geez just dismiss it already amd stop wasting money and time
One woman on the defense team and she cannot do her job, today or yesterday. Why not a trial run or 2 with the a/v equipment. Let Kyle run the media devices.
It's pretty wonky sometimes. Everytime I've served on a jury, there's always problems with the videos.
Yea every should barely be on sm amd keep ur privacy private cause he can be used against u in a court of law 😴
KILLER!!!!
Rooting for Kyle over here in England 🇬🇧 🇺🇸
@Charlie Allen KR ain't gonna nowhere except home and then to the hall of fame of superheroes.
The big takeaway is he dodnt knock Kyle out he jist went to rob him for his weapon amd thought Kyle would let him isn't this dude like 30 or something??
This attorney seems to ask a lot of questions he doesn’t know the answer to
Thats the point. You ask questions and get them to say it. You can not lead a witness to a specific thought process. You ask the questions and then hit them with the important ones. Trials are long boring affairs.
And yet he's getting ALL the answers and ALL the information he's wanting to get. Hmmmm.
@@normpeterson7767 and yet again!
How can you be some dumb about criminal trials?
@@shonuff4323 first rule of direct or cross examination is don't ask a question you don't know the answer too.
Total incompetent defense attorneys…God help Kyle.
ah tha inexperienced 30 yr old " detective kid "
be grateful u never got on a " major city " u would be more totally lost than u are now son
Free him and spend all this money on those that committed honest crimes that costed millions in the city
He killed someone, then murdered witnesses who were trying to stop him from leaving. Simple case.
Simple case of self defense
Rosenbaum chased him and fired a shot, got shot 4 times in return (per FBI drone video). Rosenbaum wasn't just "killed in random" like you're trying to portray.
A bunch of people then decided to draw their own conclusions and started chasing Kyle, one tried to grab the rifle, one had a pistol in his hand. Both got shot. The person who tried to grab the rifle was Anthony Huber, and got shot once. Anyone with any basic firearms training knows, you don't run/walk up to a person and attempt to grab their firearm.
Third person who got shot was Gaige Grosskreutz who was holding a pistol pointing it in the direction of Kyle.
Simple case of self defense. Rosenbaum, Huber and Grosskreutz got what they deserved.
Conclusions: (1) Don't chase people around firing at them, (2) Don't chase people and attempt to disarm them/beat them with a skateboard/point a gun at them while they are not posing any risk to you directly.
Maybe he really was just having a bad day yesterday but, if he is that bad all the time, Kyle needs to find a new lawyer. He was painful to watch.
kyle was recognized a a problem on multiple occasions by other armed ppl.
He had no connection to businesses.
EZ WIN! Convict Killer Kyle, the Kenosha Warrior, will walk! WOOOOOOOO!!!!
Look over your head.. thats all i am saying kyle
The state has the burden to prove 1st degree murder but the defense also has an unusual burden to show self defense which means Rittenhouse will probably have to testify .... And if he does that it will be disastrous for Rittenhouse.
Why would it be disastrous exactly?
@@pledgorhutchinson934 There are countless reasons but the big reason is the burden of proof now shifts to the defendant to prove his innocence or self defense. A skilled prosecutor will crush Rittenhouse who would be no match for all the question he's now opened himself up to ... Rittenhouse would surely be convicted. But, in order to show self defense he may have to risk it and testify. Good luck with that.
@@JEMCC there's only one problem with any of that statement. The prosecutor's office is either blowing this case intentionally, or is completely incompetent. You said skilled prosecutor? Doesn't appear to be the case here.
No, It's not the self defense that has to be proven. The onus is on the prosecution to prove that from Kyles perspective he didn't have a fear of death or great bodily harm.
@@JEMCC you you kind of got this way wrong. The defence doesn't have to prove anything. Its all on the prosecution to prove kyle didn't feel the need to defend himself or that a reasonable person wouldn't.
So wjeres the peotestors???
I wish NFAC and other responsible law abiding militias was on the scene protecting the citizens from these self appointed Deputies walking around with long guns trying to intimidate people!
NFAC? The militia that shoots themselves?
They wouldn't need to appoint themselves deputy if the police had been doing their jobs. Wanna defund the police? You're gonna have alot more of this.
Did you know
The U.S. Government sent freed slaves back to Africa & gave them land? It's called Liberia. So... The nfac is asking for something that was already tried. Liberians sadly enslaved the local Africans and have been war torn and dysfunctional since. Stop it.
NFAC is "responsible"? LMAO.
@Truth WoW! NFAC? responsible? You can't be serious.
How about some people helping Kyle's friends who bought the rifle that saved his life? Their being charged for giving a minor a rifle that caused two deaths. Nobody is helping them and without that rifle Kyle would be dead. How about starting a fund or using some of Kyles fund raiser to get them some help!
because rittenhouse is guiltier than OJ and they are accomplices. they deserve to rot in prison for life. when you see the look on that little bastards face when he gets sentenced remember this laugh HAHAHAHAAHA
It does bring up the fact if they'd of followed the law and didn't purchase the rifle until he was 18 the outcome would be different. That is a fact and the law is supposed to be based off of facts even though the law isnt & neither is life.
Oh yah. Hahahaha
@@hungwilliam44 You won't be laughing, this is a slam dunk for the defense, at the most rittenhouse will catch a few misdemeanors and will do no jail time as it's a first offense. I wouldn't be suprised if the judge dismisses many of the charges due to the state failing to prove a criminal act.
@@wymonwatson1309 The owners disavowed asking him to defend their store. That's a terrible blow for the defense HAHAHAHA.
Kyle goin ta 🔐 up
Y'all gonna use some of that 700k + $ to help Kyles friend who is being charged for giving kyle a rifle that caused two deaths?
The issue is the manner of death. If one person is attacking another they should expect to be stopped or die in the act
The witness refers to him as Mr. Rittenhouse, but Rittenhouse wasn't a "Mr." , he was 17 years old.
You can enlist in the Marines at 17, Should he refer to him as "Kid, "RIttenouse"? You're just making up that rule of ettiquet. I had elementary school teachers call me "Mr. Stuber."
@@markstuber4731 -- The very definition of Mr. is in reference to a "man". If he was referring to someone under age that he regarded a victim, I seriously doubt he'd address them as Mr., Ms., Sir, or Maddam.
@@markstuber4731 -- " I had elementary school teachers call me 'Mr. Stuber.'"
I did as well, but they were doing that in a 'grooming' way, or when (in my case) when they were mad at me. I doubt your teachers referred to you as "Mr.Stuber" when discussing you with your parents. They just called you "Mark". Let's be real, shall we?