Passenger Airplane
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2023
- LEGO has added yet another large scale passenger airplane. This one seems to ditch the attempt at being and actual airport and instead focuses more on the vehicles and accessories.
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Passenger Airplane #60367
Release date: September 1st 2023
Price: $119.99
Piece count: 913
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I like the look of the older plane better. With the newer one it's nice to get so many minifigs and the little airport vehicles. Overall, I think it a good set. I will wait to see if I can get it at a discount.
Good idea on waiting for a discount. It seems to happen more often these days.
yeah though i do like the windshield on the new one though as its more accurate to actual airliners
It's also more realistic, less prefabricated, and with more pieces and extras
The new one is IMO garbage
Nothing beats the original!
As an aircraft enthusiast and former aircraft mechanic in the Air Force, a few observations if you will: the rear, or empennage, of the aircraft contains flight controls called stabilizers, or colloquially, stabs. The plane on the left in your comparison has the conventional setup of a vertical and two horizontal stabs, affecting yaw and pitch, respectively. The new plane set has an unconventional V-Tail setup; a bit of reading on the subject indicates potential control inefficiencies with such a setup at takeoff (and likely landing) speeds or in the unfortunate occurrence of an engine loss in flight (something I've personally experienced in a C-130). However, so far as 'rule of cool' goes, it looks neat for a toy plane, giving it a more futuristic look, and I'm fine with that. So far as the forward fuselage shaping goes, or flight deck, the older plane set shaping is sleek with a steep rake similar to smaller business jets, like Gulfstream for example. The new large forward fuselage piece introduced in 2020 has more of a 'forehead' look to it reminiscent of many widebody pax planes from both Boeing and Airbus. I like both, although I like the old sleeker mold better. It just looks very aerodynamic and appealing to the eye. The low hanging engines are common on many transport planes with turbofan engines. The Boeng 737 has the lower part of its nacelles flattened due to its already low ground clearance (the original turbojet engines were long and skinny, whereas turbofan engines are much wider, utilizing the forward fan disk as its primary source of propulsion). The engines on 60367's plane are almost comically wide and the plane rather short from nose to tail, giving it an almost chibi look. But, it's LEGO, and despite recognizing the things that are questionable, I'm still looking very much forward to adding this latest large aircraft set to my collection. Kudos to LEGO for such a well-done interior, an area they usually fall a bit short in these sets. I hope someday they'll do an SST for City Airport; that would be fantastic and hopefully inspire the engineers of tomorrow to create a worthy successor to the venerable Concorde. I appreciate the comparison vid. Heck of a sweet City layout you have there- I'm jelly. :) Leg godt!
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The newest plane almost looks like an airbus model.
Yep, I'd have to agree. It does seem to have a very similar look.
Screw airbus say hello to Boeing 737Max 8
@@thclabeforthestom175that’s what I was thinking lol
@@alexnunesi think it looks like a E175.
@@thclabeforthestom175737 max 8? 737 max 7 more like
The old plane, externally, looks way better. Could you maybe convert that to include similar features taken from the new planes interior, such as walkways the full length of the plane and a toilet etc. Old plane with new style interior, would that be possible? Would be great to see you attemp it. Thanks for another honest review!
Easy, just lower the wing by replacing the lower fuselage with a brick built portion and have a flat cabin floor on top.
The middle of the wing elements on these sets are very different. I'd say there's a way, but it may look a bit odd from the belly view.
At least we have the Concorde
The older plane looks miles better on the outside.
I have to say the interior on the new plane is amazing and that little sink in the restroom is just genius. If they could combine the exterior of the old plane and interior of the new one, I think it would be a great set to get. Those airport vehicles are also quite nice in the new set.
I much prefer the older one, the new one looks "unrealistic" with the engines and the general shape/size. It was actually a set I remember wanting when it was new as a child (I did of course want most sets though).
the engines are probably the only thing that looks good, those and the wingtips, the rest looks wrong, that being said there has never been a city plane that looked has good has the first one, the only other one that got close was the big cargo plane with 4 props
3:00 clearly inspired by Zoox driverless car.
Me personally I like this plane due to the uniqueness, however one thing i would do is changing the rear tailfins by angling them back a bit to give it more of a swept back look, because looking at the plane on its side the tailfins just look awkward. Otherwise Im fine with this new airplane, however 7893 will always be the king.
That's exactly why I've put 60367 out of my bucket at the moment, as planes could not fly in reality only with those tapered stabilizing rear fins, and I've also been thinking of altering them to horizontal position and add a proper vertical fin if I would get one eventually, however, it's really hard to find such fin as a scattered part.
I think one thing that has happened with LEGO is the idea behind the airplanes. 7893 that appeared as first big airplane was probably meant to resemble some big wide-body airliner like B767 or A340, while the new one seems like a much smaller narrow-body, B737 or A320. This also is partially responsible for different fuselage proportions and 2 larger engines. It kinda makes sense, a lot of things in LEGO got kinda bigger, (like f.ex. most cars are now 6 studs and there are some even bigger, compared to 4 studs back then) so the plane of the same actual size is meant to model something that's actually smaller. With the exception of a v-tail, I'd say this plane is far more realistic and resembles modern planes better than 7893.
Yes I agree, and they actually did a good job on the rear landing gear, unlike the blocky mess that is every other plane.
I'am still happy with my two airport sets from the 1990's and combined both to them together for a larger international airport which I named it as Tarkin International Airport which is my country of Lego Island in which Lego City is it's capital.
I will have to say the older sets generally looks so much better. I never accepted the style of the newer city sets since they are way too cartoony and not that classy lookin the way before.
lego concorde: nothing beats me.
As a tip: please do yellow taxing lines at your airport to make it look more realistic! Bc rn there is not much diffrence between the runway and taxyway
Great tip! Thank you
Thanks for the comparison between the 2! Awesome video
11:11 That approach and touchdown though that was like a Ryanair landing💀 also good vid
The blue tow truck is the pushback vehicle to reverse out of the parking position before departure (while the engines get started usually), planes don't get towed around after landing, you see that happening at airports sometimes but that's just planes getting towed from and to maintenance... i like that they finally designed a functioning and realistic pushback truck... the design (like in older lego plane sets) with the kind of metal bar that connects the gear and a truck exists in real life as well but as you probably know it's kinda hard to maneuver planes backwards with those lego versions...
Really enjoyed the plane flying into the airport with announcements and wind noise!
The words you were looking for were baggage tug, tractor, runway, & apron. Thanks for the fantastic review!
Looks great at your airport. And fun with the new vehicles. I just love looking at those at real airports. Always makes me think of the hangars in Star Wars.
the "wings on the back" are called vertical and horizontal stabilizers. And the stabilizers design on the new one has never been used in a commercial airliner. also the engines are actually accurate because the new planes like the 737 have engines very close to the ground. and the 737, say the -700 has a very small fuselage size too. also tarmac is not a word in the aviation dictionary. but I am glad that the new cockpit look like a 737, so really cool.
Great comment, thank you!
The old one loos soooo much better. The new one just looks like a caricature of a plane.
The prices of course are ridiculous. Nice touch at the end with the landing. lol!
Nice landing!
Thanks, it was a bit tight there at the end.
Not that i have any planes.. but i can't stop looking at the 4 engines on the old one.. looks great not considering actual aviation. I get what you're saying about the corridor, though the kitchen and first class looks like a better choice than crew beds and toilet? Guess if you have a table city with an airport they can just be 2 different airlines.
That is probably the tram that goes between terminals. Orlando is close to me and it has the main terminal that has ticketing, security, baggage claim and then a tram takes you to the other terminals that has 20 or so gates in it where you actually board the plane. The trams go back and forth taking people to their plane and then back to baggage claim when they arrive. That would explain why there is no front and back or driver.
Such a clever play on words at the end of the video regarding the sale of it!
The V tail control surfaces are called ruddervators vs a rudder on the vertical stabilizer and an elevator on the horizontal stabilizer
The new plane is based off the Airbus Zero-E series i believe if thats what its called. waiting for lego to drop the A350-900 set
I like the TV screens and new wingpiece, as well as the automated car. It's also great to see the comparison of the plane when I was born and the plane now.
Thanks for this review; I always appreciate comparisons, since many LEGO fans may be considering purchasing a used set on Bricklink instead of the latest model on store shelves. I gotta say that the official photos of the new set didn't do a good job showing off its strange proportions (for obvious reasons 😊). I think if the fuselage was lengthened, however, it would be perfectly fine. Maybe that's just because I'm biased (lime green is my favorite color!), but the support vehicles also really make the new set a win in my book. Still, I have to agree that the older set has a very sleek look.
4:41 Hello! Pilot here! That’s a pushback tug used on departure of an aircraft from the gate, planes can’t go into reverse and back out of a parking spot so we use a tug to push us out!
Awesome, man! Thanks for that info.
@@alexnunesno problem! Thanks for responding!
I really like planes even if they have very large Lego pieces but I have not yet been able to find a space for the airport in my city; yours is very beautiful!
Its a Airplane Tug if Iam not mistaken. I think Mercedes has a concept for a autonomous bus I think this is based on that design there is a hotwheels car also based on it. Overall this set looks pretty good personally I would love to se a six wide based of a Beechcraft Starship since lego City seems to be going near future in appearance.
Thanks for letting me know. I was sure there was a name for it. And I agree, the bus does have a Mercedes sort of look.
Your review is great! I like both planes, think both of them stick out from the rest. The last two minutes of the video with the landing is stellar! Thanks a lot!
Thanks, that was a fun one.
Awesome video 😁👍 not sure if I will get this one right away but it is interesting.
I had the old plane when I was very young, loved it, great memories
the blue vehicle is called a pushback truck and is used to pull the aircraft onto the taxiway :)
The newest’s back is practically an F35’s tail scaled up without the engine
I work in aviation and the blue vehicle in the US is called a super tug.
Yeah... that tail... I prefer the old one, but we can always modify the new one to look more realistic. I just recently added a 8x8 module to my 60104 airplane and it looks much better. I still want to change the undercarriage as it looks horrible.
Great video! Beautiful Lego city.
The blue and orange one was the best one in my opinion.
Definitely need this for my city, don't have a big passenger plane yet
While the older plane is nicer from outside, the new set is much cooler! Gives several airport ground vehicles to play with, a planespotter, and is full of nicer more realistic details (except the V-tail, as an aerospace engineering student that is giving me nightmares…). The larger engines are paradoxically more realistic if it’s a new gen aircraft, since new turbofans are huge in real life! Just look at the A320neo or 777X engines’. The blue vehicle is called “pushback tug” by the way ;)
The beechcraft bonanza, 1 of the planes I'm rated to fly, has a v-tail so it's not entirely unheard of
I ove the airport and landing strip. Pretty cool, not a lot of people incorporate an airport into their city.
It's tough to have an airport in a LEGO city. They need so much space. And as big as mine is, it is still nowhere near the room I need for the airplanes.
Ships and planes are always beautiful but it takes a lot of space, in my attic lego room as you can see there is a lot of space but I have not yet thought about how to make it because I gave priority to the railway network
40$ today give you like a small ship or robot, kids were really lucky back then.
I think it’s a good set, definitely a step up from the 2020 version. That price for the US is abysmal though, and will definitely hinder sales a bit.
Maybe a discount on this would be good to wait for. I am seeing this happen a lot more often.
A meme for fun .
Me when i see the mini bus/ van : oh. My god i love it!!!!! Ngl the van look a bit cute? Right?
Doing the comparison, I still like the older plane model, but I like the other vehicles from the newer set. I also miss having the actual airport building, thinking from a toy perspective - because of course I'd prefer to build my own. Nice way to end the video by the way. 😉✈
It looks great I think the mix of a 737 and a bit of a Airbus is nice but the engines could have been smaller
Yeah that’s a thing in the west coast side. It’s really big too! However there was one incident that the car got in a accident with a responding emergency vehicle
I understand some of the criticism but compared to some previous models, its a step in the right direction. The split tail is actually based off concept designs from Boeing and Airbus for future hydrogen fueled airliners in 2040. Its actually quite progressive for LEGO to choose that design. Overall this model looks quite nice and reminds me of the Boeing MAX.
You have the perfect pilot voice!
pilot voice...nailed it!
I like the set and I think I will get it even though I have too many airplanes to show in my city already. But I would love to have this in my collection. I like the tail section better on the old one, but I like that they have made the new one "fatter" and with different engines. That way it can clearly be another type of aircraft like the difference between Airbus and Boeing in real life.
Good review and also the landing on the airport , wel done🤩🤩🤩
That end 😂
The new plane the plane with a little green yeah I’m getting for Christmas yay😊
The new plane is an awesome set
The vehicles are especially good
I have the old taxing vehicle, the new one is better
You could put the pin on the vehicle instead of the plane
The new plane is better than the 2020 plane
I wonder if the set came through Mexico where there was flooding
The placing in the city is the best one you've done
Thanks! Great comments for sure. I am glad the damage was limited to the box. This would have been a very different story otherwise.
I love the plane set the new one 😮😮😮
Top notch ending!
Still waiting for the day where Lego does ALL print pieces. These sets cost too much to be destroyed by a misplaced or off color sticker. Lego is a premium product and we deserve to have all premium parts with PRINTED elements.
Well said. At these prices, it should be expected to have all printed elements. Mega Constructs already does this.
Of all the Lego airports out there I like 3182 the most
My wife just got me this bc we both love legos, & I have to say, I love this
New plane is just so much better - the front looks like an actual jet (and not a plane wearing shades), the engines are phenomenally superior, the number of seats and clean walkway are more realistic, and the wings are excellent. People pissed about the v-tail need to recognize that *you will see airliners with a v-tail in your lifetime* - that's the future.
I'm old enough to have gotten set 6544: shuttle transport. The plane wasn't much, but it was the LEGO aesthetic at the time and it used actual bricks. When I first saw 7893, well, you called it with the Duplo. It's ugly and made up of bricks you can only use for this build and it's less LEGO and more a super easy snap together toy.
The new one is even worse.
P.S. it's called a V-tail source I legit have an aerospace degree.
4:55 It's called a "tug".
8:00 Horizontal stabiliser with elevator (flaps, that go up/down, and control pitch). Then the vertical stabilise and the rudder (controls yaw, side to side motion).
The new airplane is weird, and I do not like it, said Sam I am.
Can you *please* revise the new airplane (the tail end, anyway) into an older style?
The blue ground vehicle is a pushback truck.
The plane looked good at the airport, it's a shame the box looked like it came by boat 😅
The box looked like it was the boat :-)
As you said in 8:20, the biggest issue with the new passenger plane is those engines, which force to landing gear to basically be stilts.
I do have a list of things wrong with the plane, but its too long so in short this one was a step backwards from the 2020 passenger airplane
DID YOU SEE THE TAIL??
@@PokoTheDinosauron my phone here v tails are a modern idea and all but lego didn’t do a good job with the idea especially with the exposed technic connection
Man, I wash someday Lego will made some widebody plane instead those regional jet.😂
Is kinda strange of Lego City going from being in our modern times to being in some future (but not the far future). It is kinda neat, though.
i know a thing or two about planes.
1. the truck that connects to the front lading gear i pushback truck, used to move planes from gate
2. the tail you liked is an V-Tail
also i dont like the set because it looks weird in my opinion
The "tower" is called a tug. Great vid!
Ah, thanks for that!
8:14 The plane probably only needs two engines, in real life a plane about this size wouldn't need more than two. Also, about the tail: the traditional-looking one you mentioned is on most planes, the spilit-tail one look like its used more on fighter jets, not passenger jets. I do prefer the old tail though.
I got 60367 and it is coming to day
Cool video
What I don’t understand is that there are no buildings any more. There were one in a previous set but it is ridiculously smaller than the plane (version 2006) and there is no runways like before. In the eighties and nineties, it was an entire airport in the set and when I saw Lego planes today, the shape is not as beautiful as a real plane (shape of the wings, smal vertical rudder comparing to the rest of the plane …) when the guy says that planes before were small, it is true but for a child, it is easier to play with…personably, I bought one of the last planes and I prefered the ancient one but it is just my opinion
I might have actually considered getting the new one if it didn’t have a damn V tail.
I generally like it, but for the price its a scam. 10 years ago ud get an entire airport with it and not a small shack like in the last set. Yes there are more vehicles, but 120 dollar msrp is a rip off!
The blue one reminds of the a340 and the new one reminds me of the the airbus ZERO E aircraft
4:42 its a pushback/ tug truck
honestly I still really like this one, I don’t really see why others despise it, just a difference of opinion I guess. The v tail and big engines are definitley accurate to what future planes are going towards, and planes already have engines that close to the ground. The nose doesn’t bother me at all, if I wasn’t getting the Concorde I would definitley get this set
I know right the only thing I don’t like is the nose wheel and the lake of a second pair of wheels on the carts but both are easy mods. Maybe tires too but also easy mod.
The v tail is not accurate, nor “what design is going to”
In fact the opposite, the vtail concept does not work, there is no redundancy in it in case of engine failure you cannot produce significant lift over it to keep it in flight. Hence why there are NO vtail airliners in production OTHER then extremely small, private jets with extreme low weight limits sometimes that even exclude fat pilots.
The “hate” (as you label it) is because taking an hilariously concept vehicle and introducing into a well maintained and purposefully built realistic city is a joke, people spend thousands, tens of thousands producing realistic scenarios and Lego getting mor and more cartoon based every year
These are not labelled dreamz range etc , they are marketed as city, which when introduced as Legoland by the founder was to build and replicate your town, not build a space hypercentre as other ranges, they are falling between the two with too little consideration now
@@samwalker8893 now that I have looked into it more, you are right about the v tail. Try to be nicer about correcting people in the future though, sometimes doing that may actually make people like you more. Also, this is just a Lego set. A Lego city set. So the vast majority of people getting it will be kids, and you know what kids like? interesting and unique designs. So at the sacrifice of upmost realism, you get something that most consumers will probably find cool, or interesting at the least. Same goes with adults buying this for their cities, many can forgive the slight non realism because other than that, it is a good set. And because it’s Lego, with a few pieces, (and I mean very few) you can have a normal tail. This isint an 18 plus set, so maybe don’t treat it as one.
@@samwalker8893 however, if you don’t like it, that’s fine by me
@@alegsb3943 first of all this isnt a platform to “make friends and get you to like me”
You came in slating an entire community with incorrect and unfactual opinions stating it as truth, which was mythical
I didn’t insult you, i didnt abuse you, i just pointed out the accuracies
Now as for your reply, since this is a platform to host discussions and public debate: no it isnt kids buying $120 planes, far from it, certainty in the past, parents dont like buying planes for the exact reason that Alex metioned- no runway, takes loads of room, cant be pushed to a box etc by kid when finished playing. Buying a plane as a parent effectively commits them to buying more to make the airport experience for the kid to use, which at that price point is a turn off.
It isnt about kids vs adults, my counter is it is city vs dreamz,
This is a city line product and should be based on the basis of the line: to replicate reality….. if they want to build a concept hybrid vehicle for kids to play with in their mythical lands there are other brands
That Lego city is so cool how long did the take to build?
Golf cart not train but I get where you’re coming from! 3:24
Great review of this set. I don't like the look of the rear wings either
I like the old plane more cause the old one look like a real plane and the engine look so realistic and the pilot uniform is normal like the pilot i see in airport
It is autonomous, it is based on the London Heathrow shuttle, even to the design
It also looks a lot like Parkshuttle in Rotterdam, The Netherlands where I live. :)
That was a nice review and I can totally relate to old vs new plane arguments. Yay interior, exterior could be better. The side builds are great and this minifig head will be ordered from Bricklink as soon as I can. Loved to be part of its first landing in Mindeapolis. 😊 Now I must say, great to have a plane in the city line up again. Generally, I believe kids love planes and there is a market for it for sure. The current prices, however, are mind-boggling. People over here struggle with skyrocketing prices for food, gas, electricity and heating. More and more companies go out of business and people lose rütheir jobs. I say this wondering that with life being tough as it is and families struggle to pay for basic needs, who is supposed to buy a plane like that for their kids or rather look for a cheaper set? am sure it will find an audience waiting for discounts, I doubt the audience paying the actual price will be humangous.
Well said, as always. I am also in this situation where I am passing on LEGO sets that I would typically buy without thinking about it. Times sure have changed. LEGO on the other hand continues to pump out these big and expensive sets. I wonder if they have seen any slowdown in their sales.
@@alexnunes My overall impression in Germany is that you see less people spending on hobbies and keeping money in their bank accounts more for life‘s necessities.
In terms of design, the older one is certainly superior. As a kids playset, the new one is great but I hate the tail.
hey Alex, the new airplane looks more futuristic if i had a airport i would not buy that one it just does not go well with what i want in my city that old one is the one that goes well with my city i like more modern looking city set. so, it would not go well in my city.
What happen to reverse thrust it's used to slow down the plane
Fantastic landing!
That was a tight turn for sure.
Very interesting set. I might get one when it goes on sale
THEY NEED TO MAKE A NEW CARGO JET, HOPEFULLY A TRIJET SO THEY CAN LOOK COOL LIKE LEGO SET 60022 MY FAVORITE PLANE!
In the philippines, its 6,100 php (122$) but in japan its around 5000 pesos (100$), I bought it there while I was there.
Does the new airplane have working gears?
No working gears. Just static landing gear.
if i get it i will change the v tail to a standard thing
Butter
I prefer the old Passenger Jet personally. I think the new one has a great selection of minifigs, for sure, but I think it's got too many side builds and the plane itself looks really... stubby. The V tail is neat, but it's a bit gimmicky. I will say I like those dark blue 6x12 angled plates though! Inside is pretty nice, but the outside still looks like a beluga. I expect this thing to be about $150 in Canada, so that's gonna be a no from me.
Stubby! That's a good word for it.
The side-builds help it reach the cost. I won't purchase this, but I think it is a good set. I like your concise reviews. I align with your demographic and your opinions are helpful to me.
Having the OG Lego planes I definitely think that the older ones were so much better especially the whole overall set not just the plane I still love Lego, but I have been disappointed by how much their quality has declined by how they’ve started taking away pieces where they can. I think I’d rather have a higher price tag and a higher quality set than a price tag, the same as except from 10 years ago, but have a lower quality set.