Naval Academy - Armor
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- The best way to sink your enemy is to know your enemy; specifically, know your enemy's defenses!
In this edition of Naval Academy, we focus on everything armor. All things being equal, carefully aimed shots are going to be the deciding factor when it comes to determining who is left floating at the end of a fight. But don't forget: knowing how to hide your own vulnerabilities is just as important as knowing where to hit an enemy. School is in session, captains. Hit play!
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Thanks for portuguese subtitling, I don't need it but I know many people that do!
It would be also great if I knew how much armor I can penetrate with my guns. Like, I dunno, in WoT?
(or I could just spam HE at anything that moves)
Ap On your class he on the rest as a bb you can also fire ap at heavy cruisers.
xflamousz and carriers
xflamousz also ap is useless if a ship is angling your shots.
Barcel The penetration calculation mechanics of this game is much more complex than WoT, you can't calculate it raw.
Main issue is the impact angle. In WoT most shells fly straight to the target, here shells are fired at high arc, the impact angle greatly depends on what gun you are shooting and how far you are shooting. Then comes the angle of enemy's armor, penetration loss over distance, dispersion, etc. Combine them all and you'll see why they don't tell us how much armor you can penetrate.
***** Well, you can go ahead and say that to WG, I'd like more information from the game too. Sadly, no matter how much we complain on the forums, they aren't gonna bother much.
Maybe we could wait until WoWS version of Tank Inspector comes out?
Was having a blast after finally upgrading all my modules for the St Louis. I haven't graduated from tier 3 yet, but this is my fave ship.
Until I took a 30,000 damage 1 hit kill from a South Carolina during Co-op. That was just lovely.
I couldn't believe it. I had full HP (29,900 or thereabout), and granted, things were getting a bit hectic as the battle began, but it just shocked me. I know there are some stunning, seemingly random crit hits that land sometimes, e.g. citadel and mag hits. But I was still thinking, I must have taken a salvo of torps just before that final coup de grace from the South Carolina, or maybe it was multiple incoming crit hits from other enemies all at once.
Checked the detailed stats. Damage taken. 1 shell. HE. 29,950 damage or something.
But hey, the dude abides.
pluckyduck11y Thoroughly enjoying this game. It's a blast to play. I might suggest maybe a way to get a bit more detail on how you get knocked out. Maybe a console that logs the kills, citing crits and things like that. It's not that I am here saying "I demand an explanation!" I am just genuinely interested in evaluating what has happened. I'll accept that once in blue moon, the player just has to bite it and chalk it up to luck on the opponent's part. I'm not mad at it. Out of perhaps over 1,000 hits I've taken, that was the only time it happened. I actually like a bit of randomness like that. I don't think they should remove any virtually random variability like that, but just let it be recorded better so the player is clear on what happened. It would be awesome to see the replay. I hope they can implement a replay function that allows free cam control.
pluckyduck11y I have a fully upgraded St Louise as well my only suggestion in surviving anything bigger than you: Keep at full speed and time your broadsides for full effect on those areas for full critical affect. But don't stop moving and turning and watch out for those pesky Islands!!
Nice job Wows team :) Im always happy when i see that you guys created a new amazing video!
they didnt talk much about armor tho lol
Outwardpanicjoe Actually, they did. British-German armor system - All around armor on the hull, above the water line. American armor system - Max armor only on key components and light armor on non-essential components. Most superstructure (structure on top of the hull) is not not armored except the main gun turrets. Of course, after that, it is just talk about weakspots and the benefit of AP and HE on certain situation.
Oyamada13 What they didn't talk about was something VERY important though: deck armor. They made no mention of whether thin deck armor is simulated in the game, or even if plunging fire is something to be concerned about.
Fragtastic They did talk about it in other videos tho. There is a deck armor of varying size depending of the ship, and arcked fire is basically the only way AP can damage it.
LetztezBatallion Glad to hear that they've talked about it before and thanks for giving me some details. I usually don't' watch Wargaming's self-produced videos but I came to this one looking for info on plunging fire and deck armor.
Becuz they have hp
Anybody else find this uninformative on amour and how exactly it functions per ship when under fire? The only thing they pointed out was where you should approximately aim your shots on a bb. Nothing about where an ammo rack shot could be placed or how it could be done. Just a reiteration of it's possible and that it can be done.....
SergeantLeo well magazine is ammo rack so shoot there if you want "detonation". but yes they didnt say much. but there is considerably less you can do about aiming in WoW than in WoT. You just need to have good eye for a lead and hope that enemy will turn his broadside towards you.
yep, hopefully they address this at some point.
Song is Storm Force Through the Ages
Wow! Those guys in art department... Gold!!
Doesn't matter where you aim when your shot dispersion in a battleship is so random
I am glad that after CBT armour has now started to work properly and HE isn't just the go to she'll any more :) good job wargaming
I haven't actually played World of Warships yet but it seems to suffer from the same flaw as World of Tanks in that any ship no matter how heavily armored can be destroyed if it's hit enough times. A puny destroyer could take down a battleship with its guns alone if given enough time.
In reality, a destroyer's shells would bounce of a battleship's armor. You can fire away all day without damaging the battleships fighting ability (miracle shots aside).
Oh i see the Mikasa 😍
I see Yamato :D
Toprak özdemir But the Yamato is already in the game. By WoWS releasing footage of the Mikasa they've basically confirmed it (0:58)
Usmodlover You can buy the Mikasa in prem shop, so it's in the game alright :-)
Kizke Still not available on the NA server yet though 😢
RemyMarttini You arent missing much :P
In the art for this video I saw a fighter plane strafing a ship. I got so excited, but nothing about that.... oh well.
0:58 is the mikasa in the game now?
How much stronger is Special Treatment Steel (STS) compared to steel used by other nations? The US was the only country that could afford to make their ships out of STS, but was it worth it? WoW, love to get your input on this.
0:58 MIKASA CONFIRMED!
It's in the premium shop at tier 2
Usmodlover Mikasa has been in the game for at least two days.. o_O
4:11 In that case why not just disable a ship, and if it is still in tact after what you spit at it it must be a sea worthy vessel yes? Board it and capture it, then just repair everything you disabled, replace its flag, and turn it loose againced the country you took it from.
arghhh they got me in me Galley...
Well cannon shots can’t come from underwater, but torpedoes can.
Wait! A shell can hit a ship underneath the water! If you shoot a shell at 1000 meters from the emery then the shell would go 10 meters underwater. What I am talking about is not a torpedo! It can be shot from a battle ship.
Ok but how effective would it be???
"shells cant come from underwater" :DDD
German steel Bismarck is the most the thick armor in the game but easy to citadels
Does Shells work against underwater if hitting the Citadel whether it's HE or AP?
funny that one of the pages on the book at the beginning is about aim predictors...
JKC40 It says "Without aim prediction"...
Yuki Eiri yep, we are 'without aim prediction' :D
why bother with armor when most people just spam HE anyways?
Because then you can one-shot the bastards
just cover the whole ship in armor and get very powerful armor (only on battleships)
Do a remastered academy for the latest info
When world of warships gets properly released, will they reset everyone's accounts again?
halorulez786 Nope, there will be no second account wipe.
Yes cause it takes forever to get a new ship without buying anything
Where are the stats for nerds? Will there be a port view "Xray" that allows you to see where the diffrent armor thicknesses are located? Will we get infromation about Rounds such as "Speed" "underwater travel distance" "explosion radius" "penetration values" "maximum / minum angling" and so on?
There is a Internet Page but i forgot the name to be honest lol
xflamousz please do find that page i really need those to check the armor layout for my ships
Questing Knight to be honest i have better things to do
Most important to know is that Japan has etherything amored us has got the critical things much heavier amored but the rest less us has more dpm - mostly, but is a bit less accurate.
xflamousz and with the caliber of your gun it changes against which target you should use ap.
And ap should hit roughly in a 90° angle or it will Not penetrate the citadel
Questing Knight gamemodels3d.com
What does the 'ДЕРЖИ KYPC' at the last frame mean?
just translate it bro
"Shells can't come from underwater afterall", true, but what about shells that come from above water to the part of the ship underwater? :v (AP/HE, not torpedoes)
then the shells have already penetrated the above waterline armor meaning you failed.
Have to get through water, which would significantly diminish penetration (or shift them a bit), so below water armor should be able to handle it. In addition, the angle would allow for some bouncing as well. You COULD armor what part as well, but as with these things, its all about compromise. What are the chances that shell will hit like that? Is it high enough that you are willing to thin out armor elsewhere to increase it here?
anybody knows what the ship is at 1:45?
Is soviet cruiser
why isnt the mikasa in the game anymore?
Not quite sure I believe some of this, For example i've NEVER seen anybodies "communication systems" get damaged, They are talking out of their arse.
CactuarLOL
Yeah. Unless it's a feature coming in a later version of the game, that part about "communications" struck me as bullshitty.
Treetop64 They were talking about real world warships. IRL, disabling comunications was a viable way to fuck with a ship. And since antennas and everything was on top of the hull/deck, it was pretty easy to destroy and leave a lone ship basically stranded with no orders whatsoever. in-game, comunications may be a simple addition to the auxiliary systems that ged damaged because of fire, but do not get it's own "incapacitation" warning.
LetztezBatallion
So, in other words - within the context of the game - it's bullshit.
+Treetop64 Not so much. In short, while it isn't absolutely necessary, they mention it here to give you, the player, historical context. The long explanation is that since all of the in-game models are based on based on real-world fighting ships from World War Two and (in the case of the Iowa-class battleships) the Cold War, some seemingly-unrelated historical background info is included to bring things into a better focus.
+LetztezBatallion It's still a viable way to, as you say, "fuck with" a ship. Communications and all other antennas are STILL located well above the ship's deck, often on masts which are attached to the very top of a ship's superstructure, used to elevate the antennas even further and get better range.
I remember i was very lucky with a cruiser did a critical hit on a yamato
how is the music at 0:53 c alled?
Zone of immunity
Whats the 0:50 music please?
What happens when a conning tower is hit?
Nothing, as of the current version of the game. However, in previous versions (way back, like Beta version back), the Conning Tower counted as a Citadel hit if it was penetrated.
Remember, however, that the commander of the ship usually stays on the bridge as opposed to the conning tower; the bridge may be unarmoured, but it affords the captain the absolute best view possible, short of climbing the rigging.
I have the Yamato
Bruh Bismarck literally 1 shot HMS hood
Is this available to download now, or is it still in beta?
hatboxful It is Open Beta, so freely available to download and play. There will be no more wipes, so basically Beta is the full game. It will be improved and updated, but you can play it now.
Ok!!!
it would be nice if i could play on mac
e so usar he nos navios mais blindados
and so he use the most armored ships
2:07 What ship is that?
Dude you can see in name ship
I miss the german subtitles ^^
They didn't even talk about armor
If you listened they did. Quite a bit.
or u could just fire High explosive and forget everything about armour.
RaptorDoesUA-cam
this is the way how play noobs this game. ..
looked more like a vid to show off new paint jobs and a few new ships?
You listen the guy right?
Joseph Constance
Well the ships do look good in the game. The modellers and artists worked hard to make it that way. Why not show it off while talking about the subject matter?
Weak spots? pff, RNG trolls you though... Like, I ammoracked a cruiser with HE fired from my BB...
anyone knows the BGM at 2:00, its so awesome！
yeh ikr anyone know the music at 2:00?
@@sturmfpanzer oh wow, never expected a reply on this 4 years old comment. how far did you scroll to even find it?
@@xukarhei8893 don't know
@@xukarhei8893 I just wanted to find out about the song
"American" armoring, also known as "superior" armoring...
trkarst82
I disagree
Yamato warship need improve the powerful sell of the warship
Anyone know how to get a Mikasa on the NA server?
Generalfeldmarschall Cassell It used to be part of a mission long ago
***** So. One would have to be EXTREMELY lucky in order to get one even if they perform a sacrifice to WG and RNG?
it was part of an old mission with stages similar to ARP ones, its no longer available
is world of warships open or closed beta?
steven van anrooij It is in open beta
donerkebab97 that means anyone can join right?
steven van anrooij yes
lordhoth444 then tell me why i can not log in in world of warships
steven van anrooij did you download the game?
Or just spam HE :p
Batmat_YT
Pls no
detonation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wish wows had ammo racks like in wot
We have magazine detonations, and they're far worse than Ammo-Rack hits. Detonations are not as predictable as ammo racks. It's pure RNG as to whether or not your magazine detonates.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO who is making the voice!? Change him!
armor? hah doesnt matter. who spam most torpedo in this game win. especially bomber that can drop torpedo RIGHT NEXT TO YOU with no chance to evade.
shoot them down with AA? CV just spam more bomber then.
mfw HE fires melt battleship steel. xD
Armor ? what armor ? All I see at the start of a battle are Japanese Carriers doing kamikaze bomber wave runs on a BB instantly crippling the poor bastard or outright killing him. Armor doesn't work as well in this game unlike the tank game version since Cruisers and Destroyers only really fire HE shells and they damage anything that it hits not to mention setting fires that actually does more damage overall when in combat. The only ship that fires AP shells and tries to defeat "Armor" are the Battleships and even they are just fire and pray gameplay. They aim for a ships weakspot and pray that RNG directs their shells on where they aimed it. Seriously though, no one gives a fuck about armor in this game since everyone can damage anyone the only thing that saves your ship in a match is your ability to keep your ship moving in an unpredictable manner and only straightening out to fire a full salvo. This kinda makes Battleship gameplay rather boring... and outright frustrating when you get targetted for an aerial attack at the start.
ZinXlX you did play the game for more than 1 hour,correct? and you are not a typical WoT player,who stands absolutly still while firing only HE
Get over yourself and play some different classes if you don't like battleships try DDs they are the most fun class
Killer Games I did not say I outright hate the Battleships but damn right now it's literally either 1 boring or 2 frustrating. I played this game because I like the Battleships with the big guns and just awesome appearance but when you play as that class....sigh. Also I played other classes and found DDs to be the most exciting followed by the Cruisers. Carriers... not sure since you kinda play it like a chess match against targets or the other carrier captains loadouts.
coolnico2000 Why yes I did play World of warships enough to reach Tier 7 in Destroyers but only Tier 5 Battleships in both Japanese and American lines. See the problem that I found while playing as the big ships is that no matter how fancy you dodge or angle or hide HE shells will always damage you and since ships smaller than you can fire 4-6 salvos before you do you always get alot of damage not to mention Fires and tons of damaged modules. Battleship armor may negate HE shell damage but armor wont save you if you are burning in 2-3 places and you have just used your damage control ability to put out a previous fire.
well I am about to uninstall the game I want to aircraft carrier and going with the useless battleships is doing it impossible, I am even for using hacks for having the aircraft carriers, the battleships need a speed and reloading time buff.
Please do uninstall. This isn't world of tanks, where the heavy tank will walk right over the little lights and mediums. You need to know how to play your class and it comes down to player skill.
speed150mph I aggree. If you want to use hacks,just to skip those 2 BBs so that you can play CVs. yes,please uninstall
Buy some gold get a premium ship grind the XP and convert it so u don't have to play BB's. I suggest you grab the Albany as it's free an not to bad if you handle it right (ie don't go charging in, aim correctly and get someone to spot and support u). There no need for a jack and you can get an CV in a few hours. If this is too hard please uninstall
PBSA I love BB after getting bored with t7 CV
I write this for see if someone was with me on buffing the battleships and the Albany is a premium ship for the ones who have play the close beta.
what is the soundtrack at 0:59
what is the music at 0:56