BMW K1200LT Integrated Brakes and ABS Flush DIY
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Just an FYI - my 2003 LT has this same brake system and I used this video to great success. Thanks Kirk!
I love your video's Kirk, i just bought my first BMW, a 2002 K1200LT, These videos have been extremely helpful for me.
Gday from down in Aussie land Kirk. I just wanted to thank you for your input mate. I have just replaced the brake lines on my 02 LT and I couldn't have done it without your help. It has integrated brakes with the servo and after I finished the lines, I had the dreaded warning light flashing on the dash after the abs did it's initial check. I was able to sort out the problem and do a brake bleed and flush after checking out your channel. All good now, thanks heaps.
Think of it this way, there are two separate fluid chambers that need to be flushed. Pre-ABS and Post ABS. We tackle both front and rear Pre ABS in the video. If you want to flush Pre and Post ABS in succession you can do that. Pre ABS goes from the hand/foot brake to the ABS. Post goes ABS to the wheel calipers.
Doing this on my 05 R1100s. Thanks for the video. I’ll let ya know how it goes. I have the funnel ordered.
Very helpful, thanks a lot. Did this on a k1200gt 2002. Worked perfectly.
As always, another great one!
great job I got a lot of useful information I am going to purchase a funnel and get my bike back on the road
thank you
I am about to do the first flush (for me) of my brakes ('06RT) I found a source for the shop manual and got more worried when I remembered I had servo assist and anti-locks. Only other bike I've ever done fluids on was a '79 CBX way back when. Far simpler lines. Watching this was hugely helpful because I wasn't completely sure about the anti-lock and servo assist.
Really appreciate your video thanks , cleared some things for my on my k-bike
Your videos are awesome! They have been so much help and will save me so much money, I can't thank you enough for making them!
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great video!
Thank you for the comments, I really appreciate the feedback!
Nice video, I just replaced the fuel pump and air filter so last thing is the brakes and then the For Sale sign goes on.
Great video, I like to do all my own maintenance on my 04 R1150RT. I spoke to a person who said you can not do it your self, you have to bring it to the dealer. I believe I can do it now my self with the help of my wife. I will check back later with the results.
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delhoose good luck! All someone would have to do is tell me that I have to take it to the dealer and I would be into it!
Kirk, your videos are way cool! I'm a new LT owner and they've given me the confidence (along with the manuals) to take on most jobs. I watch them over and over until I feel like I've done it a few times. Also, it allows me to procure the tools and supplies that I will need. Are there transcripts of the videos available? If so, where can I find them? Keep up the outstanding work!
At about the 18:19 minute mark we show the fluid level drop in the funnel. The brake being bled is the right side front. Sorry I didnt note that. So the sequence in this video is front and rear ABS, then Rear caliper then front left caliper ending with front right caliper.
Hi! I enjoyed the video. It does seem complicated, and it is so expensive to do with BMW. Just wondering, do you happen to know how the system on a 2003 R1200clc compares with the system on your bike? Thanks so much!
So, it is enough to just bleed the control circuits trough the F3 and R3 bleeders?
Good tutorial appreciate it!
Replaced all the lines with Spiegler lines, bleeded the whole ting(Using all the bleeders), but I am going to just do a flush trough
the system this winter, so my question is, it is enough to just bleed with the F3 and R3 bleeders?
thanks
great video, very informative.
always get a little nervous about working on the brakes.
once had a reservoir run dry on my old bike while doing a change.
sucked air into the system and had to resort to pulling the whole system through using what can only be described as a cows syringe.
any tips on what you would do if you accidentally pulled in air.
sometimes accidents happen.
I've done it too. I used the same thing you did!
hi your videos are great i love that your like me and love sharing info for free i help lots of people to makes you feel great ...question can i put injector cleaner in the petrol like i do in my cars without damaging anything or bit of metholated spirits to clean up internal things
very interesting,great videos. I have a 93 KLT 1100 i m doing the brake bleeding for first time. I turned the ingnition on but when I applied the brakes I dont hear the pump. Does this bike has a pump (electric ?). Do I have to really remove the brake pads and push the pistons in with an spacer? thank you
Hey Kirt, can you tell me what fitting size are you using on your bleed tube and where to get it
So, it is enough to just bleed the control circuits trough the F3 and R3 bleeders?
Good tutorial appreciate it!
Replaced all the lines with Spiegler lines, bleeded the whole ting(Using all the bleeders), but I am going to just do a flush trough
the system this winter, so my question is, it is enough to just bleed with the F3 and R3 bleeders? Wheel Circuits is easy, no questions there :)
Hi Kurt, really informative video just wondering if any of your club members have suffered from what I am suffering from, which is a very aggressive front brake snatching. I've had my 2006 LT a few months and love the ride but Oh my Lord that front brake is a real pain. Any Ideas?
Cheers
Paul
I got an 05 F650 gs, do I need to do anything to the abs system if i only want to change the fluid of the rear brake?
How do I bleed the inner port on the ABS unit and from what reservoir? Do I use the foot brake to bleed?
Very informative video . Great quality.
If I need to replace the brake lines first.
How can a person do that without air getting in the system
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Lou
Changing the brake lines will certainly have air it the system. The proper bleed will take care of it. Bring it to me if you cant do it.
Yep, I am one of those guys that sprayed fluid on the air wings GD. One question, my ABS unit looks pretty much like this. But it has what looks like a bleeder similar to the clutch bleeder. What is it for?
Try using just one or two fingers to operate the front brake. At low speeds it is more pronounced.
Could this be done in a 2006 R1200GSAdventure, that have same issues . TKS
is this the same as on the 2004 R1200GS?
You emphasize the importance of keeping air out of the system, for good reason. I'm about to replace my brake lines on my '03 LT and so that sort of messes the air thing up. Any special concerns to be aware, additional steps to take, or tools I'll need? BTW, while you mention this is for '04-'10, my '03 has the integrated ABS.
I think the bleed of this system is easy. Just knowing that everything ends up in the ABS then out to the wheel calipers.
The hand brake and foot brake both go to the ABS system first. Then down to the wheel calipers.
Logic tells us to bleed at the wheels but the ABS system must be free of 100% of any air when your done.
Setep 1:
Change or replace any hose or lines first. Fill hand brake & foot brake with oil and bleed at wheels to fill lines with oil.
Step 2:
Bleed from hand brake to ABS bleed screw (on top).
Bleed from foot brake to ABS bleed screw (on top).
(If your LT doesn't have a bleed screw on top of the ABS system they recommend you install one)
Step 3:
Bleed hand brake to calipers. (left side first then right side)
Bleed Foot brake to caliper. (left bleed screw first then right bleed screw)
(Some LT's didn't have a Left & right bleed screw on the rear caliper)
Doing it this way removes air in the ABS system first then out to the calipers. If there should be any air left it will move into the hoses/lines and out to the calipers.
Other then taking it to the dealer to have them do it this is the book and logical way to do this system.
Be safe and double check your work.
I run the hoses up hill if possible to prevent air getting in the system.
Hi Kirk. Thanks. Where did you find the right angle hose adapter?
Edit: might have found it here. Looks like it came with your vacuum tool. Mityvac MVA6913 Brake Bleed Adapter Kit www.amazon.com/dp/B007QV5CGI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_HN6eAbBZHY96D
I have a 2002 R1150 RT with linked brakes... I just replaced my ABS Modulator for $1900, buy them online directly out of Germany and save $900. One of the pumps failed and left a trail of guck in the system. It was likely my fault for NOT BLEEDING NEW BRAKE FLUID every year or so... so there is your warning. Bleed your brakes or expect to cough up some cash.
I used black tape around a small funnel to get the right size for adding new fluid.
Please tell us where you bought it!
These units can be repaired but you need spare parts, I found them on eBay. I put my old one up on eBay, if you are interested I can point you to the ad if its still up.
11/23/22 just did the brakes on my 2002 K1200LT with 37,000 miles. I bought it in April. Previous owner had it serviced at the dealer. Had steel brake lines installed (And a bunch of other items like the gas tank fittings, gae and air filter, etc etc. I received 2 receipts for over $3200! The brake bleed and new steel lines and brake pads were $1500. I bought the bike with only 100 miles on it after the dealer service, paid Less than the receipts! ($2500) How, Why? Because the ABS was blinking back and forth at 1cps. Owner said they started blinking shortly after the service. The Brakes felt great BUT When I pulled off the tupperwear I could see the brake reservoir was at Minimum!! Just by putting in brake fluid the right light stop blinking. I bled the system, it was pretty clean.....It only has 800 miles on the brakes since dealer service. I changed the O2 sensor, got a Bosche on ebay for $30, Flushed the coolant, got one of those Gemi chips. And I put new Metzler Marathons on it. We have tar snakes on Highway 88 in the Sierra's, my main cruise......... If only I had seen your video on tires before I bought the Metzlers.
You switch on the ignition and once the ABS motor starts, how long does it run? At the switch of the ignition, Start the Engine? Or Stop wenn arrive the system Pressure or run at end of Battery power?
I'm pretty sure my 03 has this system.
Hello Kirk- nice video- Pls inform me how can I get that special funnel for the ABS flush ? Thank you much-
www.beemerboneyard.com/abs3funnel.html
Just bought a funnel for Beemer Boneyard, almost 50 bucks these days!
Still worth it as it pays for itself in one use!
Just curious... I have a 2001 K1200LT. The brakes are shot. The fronts are seized. I'm sure the lines have failed.. since it's a 2001. Am I expecting to see this type of system? The brakes say BMW not brembo.
HI.
Dont understand.You bleeding firs front brakes over abs unit,then rear over abs unit.
Then rear caliper and front left caliper.What is with front right side??
Can You make simply graphic step by step for email?
You are the BEST:) thank You:)
Hmm mine looks different i only have a single reservoir i have on 01 i just order new brake lines gunna need to figure this out
Hi Kirk, Thanks for the videos, they help big time. Before I go and tear my 2003 R1150RT apart I thought I would ask; The ABS servos are barely working (intermittently and sound like half power) and no power assist to the brakes. Any opinion on whether a complete brake system flush might bring back the ABS system to life? The bike has been sitting in my garage for over a year now. Thanks
It certainly cant hurt! If the ABS is bad there is way to have it rebuilt and save a ton of money. Doug is working on a video now on just that issue!
I have the same system.But i am too not understan well this sequence.
i flush the whole system of the ABS because i did a clutch replacement. i flush even the abs module ... so when i press the front brake lever i can hear the servo motor buzzzing ..but if i press the foot rear brake there is no other sound but the relay click.. no servo motor sound... after folow your procedure front brakes are mushy and no presure at all at the rear caliper what could be wrong?
Somehow you must have ingested air into the system. Flush them again.
On my 03 LT, there are 2 bleeder screws on the rear brake caliper - you only bled the out side one when doing the servo flush - shouldn't you do both sides?
I'm thinking I need to see a picture of this... info@illinoisbmwriders.com
= ABS LOCK UP =
Flush the brake system really good with zero air. I had a little air left in my ABS system and on the freeway one after noon the ABS went off at 70 mph and forced me to stop very fast. (The front brake forced an emergency stop. As a error in the ABS system) The brake locked up for a few minutes and once I let a little fluid out the front brake it let go and I was able to return home. If your brakes feel a little soft, you better flush them brake lines again and again until that ABS system has all the air out of it. I will flush my brake lines heavily for now on. I hope this never happens to you. Re-check your work and always be safe.
I recently talked to a guy in FL that had this issue! He wound up bypassing the Servo unit...
Kirk, is this something we should be cautious about?
I just was making a point that you really need to take your time and not get in a big rush to ride mode like I was... But if you think you got air in it then I would take the time to work that air out.. For me it wasn't much, about 5 drops of air is all it took to make the ABS system to start doing all sorta strange stuff...
Its been over a year now and no problems to date.
HAY Kirt, you guys have the (BMW diagnostic tool GS911) I think that has the ABS TEST on it so you can flip over there servos for the ABS to bleed better.
GS911 Infor:
>Service Functionality for the Workshop such as Service Reminders, Output Device Function Testing, Calibrations, Clearing and Relearning Adaptions and ABS brake bleeding.
Emergency Functionality out on the road such as ECU information, reading and clearing fault codes for all the intelligent control units plus viewing or logging of the real time sensor data.
Hi Kurt, I was wondering, if I got already air in the ABS system of a non intergrated (I guess) 1998 BMW R1200C Classic, got pretty much fup the rear brake, would I be able to bleed the ABS myslef without the computer/tool and avoid to bleed my wallet at a BMW shop?
Bleed to the ABS unit. Once that is clear fluid, you should be able to bleed post ABS at the caliper using the servo motor. Air should then leave the system at the caliper. You should have a clean circuit then.
we have a K1200Gt 03 how can we lower it so mt feet can tuch the grown firmly?
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Kirk, I have a 2011 K1300S, does your Video include this model? And if so where do I get this funnel? Thanks Paul Rogers
It does not need that funnel. Just flush them as you would a regular bike. Top to bottom. There are no special ports on the ABS unit.
hi from greece that works also in model of k 1200 lt 2002?cause realy i dont know what to do is flushing noise and not good brakes after i change a fron pipe
+planet928 It works with an 02 as well. The res is under the rear seat
+14wntr thanks cause relay I don't have brakes at all
Hi. I have big problem with my ABS module, can you help me please. After the diagnostics, the Moto service said that the ABS Moodle needs to be replaced - it is not working properly. Help me find this ABS module.
In general, I wanted to know about their repair. Is it possible !? My Bike (2005 year BMW K1200LT) Thanks. p.s wait for your answer
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Why can't you flush the front master cylinder to the front caliper in one step and the rear master cylinder to rear caliper bypassing the ABS module? Would that not flush the whole system?
They are two different systems. The foot pedal or hand brake activates the servo and the servos push to the brake calipers. typical German over-engineering. You'd think Rube Goldberg designed it.
Absolutely! non integrated are easier in my opinion. Just keep flushing! - Kirk
Pretty confusing when you only see one part. When you say up-down is that what you tell the other person to do or just to let the other person know what you're doing?
He's telling the other person - "Up / down"
It's pretty common verbiage used when bleeding car brakes - push the brake pedal "down" / let "up", etc..
In this case, "down" means squeeze the front brake lever or push down on the rear brake pedal.
"Up" means release the lever or let off on the pedal..
The object is to push fluid thru the system - "down" - without allowing any air to get sucked back in - "up".
Just bought a 2000 K1200LT that had been stored with no prep for about 8 years, so everything needs attention. Looking at the brake lines and finding the Speigler set at $245 led me to look for competitive products. I found Kit brake hoses 1 Frentubo BMW K 1200 LT ABS 1997 > 2003 PINZA BREMBO $154.80 Item number 372534400427 available for roughly $100 less on eBay - if they are the complete and the right stuff. Does anyone have experience with this alternative manufacturer?
How do I turn off the flashing ABS lights?
2001 K1200LT.
>>Re-post from 00K1200LT>>
I would just read the page and learn all you can its not long.
How to reset the ABS:
dbbeemers.presspublisher.us/issue/annual-edition/article/resetting-bmw-abs-faults
I am fixing to bleed mine. I do, however, have a question. If the total system is looped, why do you have to bleed the pump itself. Won't it bleed both at the same time? I guess this really pertains to the front.
I tried this in the past just to see whats what. My findings were that even after fully flushing the circuits first there was still dirty brake fluid that was trapped in the ABS. Now I do both no matter what.
Thank for replying. I will do both but since I am doing it single handed I will use my vacuum pump of the non servo portion
Hi Kirk, thank you for your amazing videos. Question - I have 2005 K1200s, with 55km. Recently i changed rear brake pads, drove the bike, no problems. Then 3 weeks later decided to flush rear brake fluid. after bleeding i get in display RED triangle and RED bake light flashing, Moto scan says error 6269 Brake Fluid Level. I topped it up. Want for a ride no change. Bleed again, this time with ignition on, but engine off, can hear ABS noise, sounds good, did the bleed, tested no change? any ideas? when bleeding should key be in ignition? engine off, or no need for key at all?
Thank you. gsp
I dont use the key until I use the gs911 to purge the brakes. Not sure where you are getting the error from. If it has an older ABS system it may be on top of the ABS unit where another res is.
I did not bleed ABS Module under the tank, just rear end calliper and side reservoir. Do i have to bleed ABS module for rear end?
@@openscape7831 I would have a look at it to see if it has a res. If it does then yes, that is where you need to fill it up
That funnel is like $50 from Beemer Boneyard
No pump in that model. The brakes should be pushed back to remove all of the fluid but is not totally necessary in my opinion
hello friend i would like to know if this could be done with a vacuum pump
you could try but it is not as effective as the way in the video
@@kirksmotorrad OK thanks
So this is for 2004 and earlier models? I have a 1999.
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Shouldn't you remove the brake from the wheel and push back the calipers?
No!
Bleed off the push back.
Otherwise your forcing it back into the ABS system and it could damage it.
Only if your doing a full flush then the book recommends that you push the caliper(s) back to save fluid until you clear the lines out of the old oil. Then remove the push back and fill the caliper(s) to complete the brake flush.
>A Disc Brake Pad Piston Compressor $5.99
www.harborfreight.com/disc-brake-pad-piston-compressor-68973.html
Where is brake reservoir.
contact me at kirksmotorrad.com and tell me what is going on.
Great video's Kirk.. Thank you.
Pulling new Speigler brake lines on my 03 model now and this has really helped.
Just an FYI.
Your description mentions this video is for 2004 and later models.
I think you meant 2002 thru 2004 models with I-ABS.
I see that you've also made a video on 2005 and later models
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I'd tow it to you if you could fix it.
I probably can. contact me at kirksmotorrad.com
On this video you show one place,one point.This is not transparent.
Also check out Chris Harris videos as he dose more R1200 bikes..
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I run the hoses up hill if possible to prevent air getting in the system.