Thanks for your input guys. Points of note are that you are 1) showing unsafe times to remove drives. 2) Dual rank and CL=19 requirements. 3) Longevity statements from users and yourselves over time. Not much point to have a 'cavalier' approach to this test for most possible DS-423+ buyers. 'We' (many perhaps) just want to know that the Crucial 16Gb...aka 18Gb total works over time. Cheers!
The crucial ram linked is for CT16G4SFRA266 but the referenced one in the video is CT16G4SFD8266. I bought the former one and it didn't work. I will give the one referenced in the video a try.
@@karmascotland8 yes, the one referenced in the video worked. Hopefully they will see this and fix the link. But make sure that you buy the correct one as they note in the video, these machines are picky and you must buy exactly the right one or the machine will not work. Grateful they did this, all the same.
Thks Robbie, *For over a year it's been the !DS1824+ or Bust! *However you finally tempted me one too many times. *The optimal (really least-worst) NAS for me is surprisingly the DS423+. *In a nutshell: DS423+ $500 4bays for RAID5 (>1.9Gb/s data xfr speed) ; NMVeSSDs (>1.6Gb/s quick boost cache) ; & upto6/18RAM *Plus I'll connect a 8bay HDD/SSD USB3.0 enclosure $250 to it. *Total cost w/o HDDs is just ~$600. *If I ever need super high data xfr speeds for super large files ; I'll attach a 4bay HDD/SSD thunderbolt3 external enclosure to my computer via software RAID-for-Speed & make the RAID-for-Speed into a Synology Drive. *Wish me luck
So, more than a year later, anyone got any long term test results? Does it continue to work. Is there a marked difference in performance between +4gb, +8gb and +16gb? I'm about to get a 423+ and am keen to hear how much difference it makes. Am I better off with a NVME cache? Is one better than the other for speeding thing up?>
Many thanks Robbie and Andy for your multifarious inputs....they have guided me well along with Spacerex etc., Your presenting style does leave me needing somewhat of a 'frontal lobotomy' or is that a 'bottle in front of me'? Kindly and warmly said....any chance you could slow down to the speed of 'light'? 😆😉😁
Comparing this NAS with a TS453E would be a good comparison. The 453E is smashingly good, after using it a while and QTS 5.1 BETA with multichannel and QTIER with the faster slots turns it into the perfect system, no need to do a thing with it. Plenty of speed and power at the pricepoint. If you want more I prefer the true intel stuff at that point.
Tried the Sabrent 8gb module, it worked for about a day then I got all solid blue lights and it didn't respond again, unplugged, never started, removed hard drives, never started. removed memory, everything worked fine. plugged it back in, didn't boot. so either I have a bad chip or it's not compatible. I don't have another way to test this chip so I'll test another one.
Anyone watching this if the specific 'dual rank' 16Gb Crucial works? i.e. most folks probably would only ask for 16Gb + 2Gb Max ram, especially as this is NON-ECC memory. Very 'sketchy' results online elsewhere what specific model works over time without major issues. Specifically for the ds423+ and Celeron J4125 'match'. I'm planning to buy shortly. 😉
Been running for weeks now with CT16G4SFRA32A. No issues whatsoever, fully abused with docker, and a bunch of synology services. PS. The built-in 2GB from Synology is non-ecc anyway.
@@zrogon Are you specifically running this in the DS423+? If so, I am buying right now and returning the 8GB Crucial stick I have in there now. Please let me know.
I tried the CT16G4SFRA32A from crucial but the NAS did not boot ( 423+ ) maybe it because it was CL22 and Single Rank ( could not find a dual rank ). Ordered a Kingston KVR26S19D8/16 to test since it is CL19, 2666 mhz and Dual Rank ( 2R8 ) hopefully it will work.
Great video! I did a similar test trying to find the limit on my AS6604T which is also J4125 based but has two RAM slots. It’s funny because while the Intel Ark says this processor only supports 8GB max, I found someone on the Intel forums talking about how they were able to get 16Gb working so I figured I would try. I was able to install 2 Hynix 16gb DDR2400 sticks for a total of 32GB of usable memory but definitely failed when I tried to go higher. Either way super happy with having that much usable memory on this little server for some in memory databases even if the CPU is pretty weak.
Kindly forget other brands that are not CL 19 x 3, Crucial is 'Crucial' in this search...LOL ;-) 2666mhz. 16Gb...why go for less or why go for more? Thanks.
Thanks for your input guys. Points of note are that you are 1) showing unsafe times to remove drives. 2) Dual rank and CL=19 requirements. 3) Longevity statements from users and yourselves over time. Not much point to have a 'cavalier' approach to this test for most possible DS-423+ buyers. 'We' (many perhaps) just want to know that the Crucial 16Gb...aka 18Gb total works over time. Cheers!
Thanks for running these tests.
Always thoroughly enjoyed and explained
The crucial ram linked is for CT16G4SFRA266 but the referenced one in the video is CT16G4SFD8266. I bought the former one and it didn't work. I will give the one referenced in the video a try.
Let us know how it goes, my friend!
@@karmascotland8 yes, the one referenced in the video worked. Hopefully they will see this and fix the link. But make sure that you buy the correct one as they note in the video, these machines are picky and you must buy exactly the right one or the machine will not work. Grateful they did this, all the same.
@@JosephVAnthony See 37:40 in the video warning you specifically of this issue.
Thks Robbie,
*For over a year it's been the !DS1824+ or Bust!
*However you finally tempted me one too many times.
*The optimal (really least-worst) NAS for me is surprisingly the DS423+.
*In a nutshell: DS423+ $500 4bays for RAID5 (>1.9Gb/s data xfr speed) ; NMVeSSDs (>1.6Gb/s quick boost cache) ; & upto6/18RAM
*Plus I'll connect a 8bay HDD/SSD USB3.0 enclosure $250 to it.
*Total cost w/o HDDs is just ~$600.
*If I ever need super high data xfr speeds for super large files ; I'll attach a 4bay HDD/SSD thunderbolt3 external enclosure to my computer via software RAID-for-Speed & make the RAID-for-Speed into a Synology Drive.
*Wish me luck
So, more than a year later, anyone got any long term test results? Does it continue to work. Is there a marked difference in performance between +4gb, +8gb and +16gb? I'm about to get a 423+ and am keen to hear how much difference it makes.
Am I better off with a NVME cache? Is one better than the other for speeding thing up?>
Many thanks Robbie and Andy for your multifarious inputs....they have guided me well along with Spacerex etc., Your presenting style does leave me needing somewhat of a 'frontal lobotomy' or is that a 'bottle in front of me'? Kindly and warmly said....any chance you could slow down to the speed of 'light'? 😆😉😁
Kngston KCP426SD8/16 worked!
Comparing this NAS with a TS453E would be a good comparison. The 453E is smashingly good, after using it a while and QTS 5.1 BETA with multichannel and QTIER with the faster slots turns it into the perfect system, no need to do a thing with it. Plenty of speed and power at the pricepoint. If you want more I prefer the true intel stuff at that point.
Thanks for your input, I'm just going for basic 'Synology' options based on their software packages/security. Thanks! 🤓
Tried the Sabrent 8gb module, it worked for about a day then I got all solid blue lights and it didn't respond again, unplugged, never started, removed hard drives, never started. removed memory, everything worked fine. plugged it back in, didn't boot. so either I have a bad chip or it's not compatible. I don't have another way to test this chip so I'll test another one.
Thanks for the tips as always. Do you have a list of memory i can use for my DS920+? Thanks in advance.
I tired a Kingston 8GB KCP426SS6/8 it didn't work, after googling seems other people with with a synnology nas it didn't work but the 4GB variant did
Anyone watching this if the specific 'dual rank' 16Gb Crucial works? i.e. most folks probably would only ask for 16Gb + 2Gb Max ram, especially as this is NON-ECC memory. Very 'sketchy' results online elsewhere what specific model works over time without major issues. Specifically for the ds423+ and Celeron J4125 'match'. I'm planning to buy shortly. 😉
Been running for weeks now with CT16G4SFRA32A. No issues whatsoever, fully abused with docker, and a bunch of synology services. PS. The built-in 2GB from Synology is non-ecc anyway.
@@zrogon Many thanks, very kind of you to share your experience. Most helpful @zrogon !🙏👍
@@zrogon Are you specifically running this in the DS423+? If so, I am buying right now and returning the 8GB Crucial stick I have in there now. Please let me know.
@@dylandesjardins3187 Correct.
I tried the CT16G4SFRA32A from crucial but the NAS did not boot ( 423+ ) maybe it because it was CL22 and Single Rank ( could not find a dual rank ). Ordered a Kingston KVR26S19D8/16 to test since it is CL19, 2666 mhz and Dual Rank ( 2R8 ) hopefully it will work.
hi sir, ds423+ working with QNAP 5gb ethernet adapter QNA- UC5G1T ? thank sir
Crucial RAM CT4G4SFS8266 4GB DDR4 2666MHz CL19 don't work 😔
Synology DS423+
I’ve never run enterprise drives, but all that noise would concern me if you hadn’t told us previously that it’s normal.
Great video! I did a similar test trying to find the limit on my AS6604T which is also J4125 based but has two RAM slots. It’s funny because while the Intel Ark says this processor only supports 8GB max, I found someone on the Intel forums talking about how they were able to get 16Gb working so I figured I would try. I was able to install 2 Hynix 16gb DDR2400 sticks for a total of 32GB of usable memory but definitely failed when I tried to go higher. Either way super happy with having that much usable memory on this little server for some in memory databases even if the CPU is pretty weak.
Thank you, Salim, for your input based on Intel J4125, however, I'm just focussed on the Synology ds-423+, Sir. (Said warmly). 😀
So hold on, the 6GB is not hardware locked?
Could I use Synology DDR4 4GB 3200 ECC on the DS423+?
Is the cpu soldered in, or can we upgrade it same as a desktop computer?
Can anyone help, I am new to Synology NAS, DS423+ and I cant connect to Plex in the NAS DMS, says not secure , and help out there?
cool
Kindly forget other brands that are not CL 19 x 3, Crucial is 'Crucial' in this search...LOL ;-) 2666mhz. 16Gb...why go for less or why go for more? Thanks.