WIDE LOAD - Train Caught by Detector on the Port Road!
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2021
- The unexpected happened when I chased a train down Norfolk Southern's Port Road Branch, which until recently rarely saw trains during the day. A defect detector announced a "wide load" on a car so the train stops to let the conductor off to do a roll-by inspection. What they found may have been less than amusing, but it was the first time I saw one of these in action up close.
I continue to chase the train to the Amtrak Northeast Corridor, which is dominated by dozens of high speed passenger trains, so seeing a long freight train under the wires was certainly a treat! - Авто та транспорт
That dispatcher is pretty cool actually. Always gives us the time we need to work if he can.
Outstanding video. Videography, editing, narration, and subject matter. I have vivid memories of the Port Road. In the early and mid ‘70s, while a student at F&M in Lancaster, I would bike down by the Susquehanna. I typically rode PA 441 from Middletown to Pequea and Safe Harbor. The scenery was so dramatic, with PC, and later, Conrail freights traversing the Port Road and the old Low Grade Line above. Catenary was energized, and freights pulled by GG1s, E44s and E33s, were frequent. The hills leading out of the valley were challenging, especially Turkey Hill. The top of Chickies Rock in Columbia was another great spot from where I could look down on the tracks. Thank you for posting this fine video!
One of the best rail videos I’ve seen both in video quality and audio quality. Extremely informative in all aspects.
Great video. This one was truly unusual and you were lucky to be on the correct side to see the problem. Understand about the 35MPH that the freight do. I was on a train to Orlando several years ago and we had an unruly passenger that had to be evicted by the police in Washington DC which delayed us enough to be stuck behind a freight. 35 all the way through VA. Loads of fun. Another delay was the fact that storms had knocked the automatic defect detectors out of commission so we had to stop several times for the conductor to manually inspect the cars every 100 miles.
Cool post, neat to hear the conversation on the radio.
As a former conductor when you get hit the first thing you do is “shit 🙄” then get up your things ready for a hike
Yeah I bet, I used to work long hours in the hot/cold during my construction days and always thought about those folks on the ground doing all the walking. Thanks for keeping America moving!
Dang, id be pissed here XD
The fking mechanic/handyman left some plastic reel on the side of the car
An you get to hike almost a mile back to the cab
@@donovanulrich348 Not allowed a push bike to make that trip much shorter?
Am a truck driver we fill your pain lol
@@mrdrummer2564 nowhere to put one, and good luck riding it along the ballast on the side of the track. Nope. We have to walk, but it is good for us :)
I call it "THE AIR HOSE REEL"!
Kept thinking of the word for the “circular “ thing and it finally came to me - it’s the spool! Lol.
Or "reel", as the engineer remembers, the second time he tries to explain it to the dispatcher.
Your videos are so informative and articulate. I really appreciate and enjoy them! Keep up the great work!
The "lean" is called Super Elevation. It is also used on roadways, like turnpikes to allow the traffic to maintain the higher speed without centrifugal force causing a roll over.
Thanks for sharing your time , gas and knowledge on your videos, always enjoy watching! Also tell the new wife thanks for letting you still do this 👍🏻
I worked at an intermodal yard. In two years, we only had one car that set off the high dector. Even though we shoveled and swept the wells, snow had accumulated enough before the containers were loaded, so the container was up around 2”. The railroad inspector told us when the containers are loaded properly, they clear a couple of bridges by 2”. It explained why our double stacks had no snow on the top, but single stacks and trailers did.
Now that is interesting.
Wow. Only 2" clearance? That's crazy, but it's a train car. Shouldn't be anything on top of it to worry about.
I wonder, do things have to run real differently in area that get heavy snowfall day after day? Like Canada?
@@laurasalo6160 A couple things which first come to mind on a Sunday morning have more to do with the temperatures involved with snowfall than with the actual snow itself. Cold air temperatures can increase leakage from the trainline for the airbrakes. Cold axle bearings can increase the force needed to start a standing train. Also, some of the coal and ore-carrying railroads had/have to heat the frozen ore cars before they could be unloaded. As for the snow itself, snow in the air can reduce distance at which lineside signals can be seen. For exactly how running the railroad operationally would be impacted, someone else is going to have to have that knowledge, I don't.
All these decades being in to trains and I didn't know that bypass hoses existed.
Keep these videos coming! The commentary and audio are top quality. Thanks for all your hard work!
Great video with fantastic narration. A distant signal in the making. I love your analogy between fishing and railfanning. I just go along and see what happens.
Fer shure!! The next Danny Harmon!!
Groovy! Your voice is so mellow along with a wealth of knowledge. You always tend to find neat locations for railroad watching spots. I've enjoyed all of your swell videos.
That's the first time I've heard a detector to give off the car initials and number. Usually its just axle and rail.
Same here. The cars do have RFID tags on them (grey rectangular pod, usually bolted somewhere around the car frame) so the technology is there. Surprised more detectors don't use it.
@@beeble2003 it's a matter of cost to upgrade the detectors to include AEI readers and interfaces.
@@JugSouthgate Of course. Just slightly surprised that it hasn't happened more by now, since AEI has been around for a while.
Civilian: has to maintain and upgrade or buy new vehicals
Fortune 500 Business owner: but i already spent some money this year making more money
@@beeble2003 Was wondering how exactly that worked ie whether it was some kind of electronic tag like RFID or a machine readable pattern (Bar/QR code etc) or what.
Love the scanner feed, great job with the video.
Great footage along the river and nec. Port is my home territory. I used to watch the freight rush at perryville anytime I was on a night shift.
Very interesting video with the unusual stop to check the wide load notification Thanks for sharing this behind the scenes railroading video.
Very nice. It’s rare to see a high wide car detected. Very nice shot on a curve on the NEC. At least 36A had the window still open.
Excellent adventure and catches.. I railfanning the Port Road Branch last summer and still have yet to post anything on it. Didn't catch any moving trains unfortunately but I did manage to nab some standing equipment, particularly in Columbia, PA.. In fact, I was at the very spot you filmed at (M.P. 4.4)
Another fantastic vid, Eric
A really great Video, looking for ward to more. The Out of Gauge Car certainly added some Spice to your Day Railfanning.
Very Nice video and a Great 👍 Catch of the Detector for Wide Loads. Very Interesting. Thanks!👍
Really nice video. Loved watching that lean on the curve on the NEC
Thanks for this. It's amazing that something the size of a train can be scanned (in motion!) to detect a problem only a few inches wide. I wonder how many accidents have been prevented by these measures.
Foamers of the world unite. Great video. I have been a foamer since I was 5 and my Dad worked for the Railroad. I have fond memories.
Excellent quality in every respect! Great explanation for those of us who don't know much. Good work!
Great video, thanks for sharing. Lots of interesting tidbits in there. Looks like you got lucky which side of the train you're filming during the inspection!
Speaking of which though, sure would've been nice to have gotten a shot at the end of the car after the reel had been relocated to fix the car width problem. Granted, that's an "icing on the cake" thing, but maybe something to keep in mind if you get another event like that one. :)
Excellent work, my friend. The videography is great, the narration writing is excellent. All the best from Pittsburgh.
Nice video! I caught that train the same day in York Haven, but never knew about it having a wide load.
Nice video, very informative. I learn a lot from watching them.
ChainsawN&W1218, great 👍 video, enjoyed seeing the manifest run under the wires 👍 🚂.
Thank you for the video. Love trains.
So Beautiful Train
Great production. Very informative and enjoyable. Keep up the good work.
It’s crazy how long trains are nowadays. It can be a five mile round trip to walk the train! Thanks for a well done video.
I recall 120 car trains 45 years ago.
Very nicely done video!
🔰 Man, I love those old GG-1’s…so cool 😎
Awesome video! Very well presented.
I used to watch trains here. I'd usually just wait at the Amtrak station in Perryville. It was cool on the rare times a CSX train would be on the bridge over the Susquehanna and an NS was on the Port Road. I always wanted to see the tunnels up north by the river.
That's awesome. I was just in PA 4 weeks ago. Trying to find some action on the Harrisburg line and Pittsburgh line. It was so worth it that I'll do it again.
Great video. Thank you.
Wow those detectors are the reel deal. 🤭
I enjoyed your video of train on the NEC. Do not see many. Look forward to upcoming ones.
Yeah it's such a neat place to see freight! Thanks for watching!
Excellent video and narration.
I've never watched a train video before but I found this one very educational. I'll be subscribing. Thank you.
Great Video..! the "Lean" on the roadbed is called "Super" on a highway -- probably the same with ties and iron rails on top of the roadbed...! One of you quicker fans got the "reel", your editing on the descriptions of the Hose ? Thing ? is very droll -- and entertaining when obvious words escape our tongues...!
"Super" as in "Super-elevation." One rail is elevated higher so it becomes super-elevated giving you super-elevation to describe the topography of the track.
Great video. Always very interesting and different to see freight on the NEC.
Great video. Shocked that nobody on the radio seemed to know the word "spool" or "reel"
Very interesting situation and a great video. Nicely produced. Great job.
Yep, reel, spool, superelevation. Super videography too. Very well done in all aspects.
Really enjoyed this. I thought the wood stacks might have triggered the sensors but the reel cracked me up!
Great video 🚄🚄👍
Cool video....I saw that "banked curve" there and it made me wonder if those cars ever flipped over on that.
Probably not on the Northeast Corridor, definitely has happened on Horeshoe Curve though (such accidents are called 'stringline' derailments).
Awesome video!!!
This is really cool, I learned so much! Thanks :)
Wow you Nailed it Great catch, Nice 👍🏻
awesome video!!
That was very interesting. I was impressed the detector could determine the reel was there. Very sensitive
I don't envy the conductors walk back to the head end. I grew up near that area and when I'd railfan the Pennsy back then it was normal to run into several copperheads and rattlesnakes.
I was impressed that the defect detector was able to identify the car number!
@@Shit_I_Missed. The scanners are insane. They see everything
Great video thanks for sharing and I heard in the one clip a general signals type three ebell I find this video interesting I always film train videos when I can
Ever since I played train sim I’ve had a newfound respect and love for trains and the people who run them
Wow! What a great video! So detailed. I feel like I'm part of the crew.
When I was going to school at East Salisbury School (teaches 3rd-5th grade), we would always see a Delmarva Central hauling freight along what I call the “Old Ocean City branch line,” or what’s left of it. It’s named after the road it runs almost parallel to, and is only used to transport cargo. And that’s almost always grain hoppers filled with feed and stuff from the Perdue plant at the end of the line. A few tankers here and there, but nothing crazy. The line actually runs past the school, and whenever a train passes by during recess, literally every kid on the playground would run to the fence and watch as the massive units hauled the freight cars off. It was inspiring. You’d always know the train was coming with it’s bell chiming and the horns blaring (by law mostly). Sometimes I think they did it to say “enjoy the view, as when you grow up, you’ll be doing this too” to us on the playground.
EDIT: It wasn’t a Delmarva Central locomotive. It was a Norfolk & Southern. This is because the railroad was owned by Norfolk & Southern until 2016.
Sweet. You were filming what I call my home turf. I live near the port road by Conowingo Creek. Shame they took down the old PRR signals.
Yeah those signals were cool, it's nice they left the pole and bracket on the bridge where it once was though, I love all those old poles and stuff, too bad a lot were taken down.
New Castle checking in woop woop
You don't see the fault detector catch a problem very often. Nice catch.
Why? Is it because it's a poor device, or, hopefully, because there are few problems to be detected?
Great video. I do love how people say "Norfolk" when they haven't lived in tidewater. XD
Keep up the great video. ^.^
The conductor did't seem to know what a hose reel is. Scary....
Probably tired, these guys work some long days and nights.
Awesome video.
Yes!!! Finally an explanation about what defects they look for.. So glad this wasn't serious. Just someone who was apparently too lazy to hang the hose wheel in the right place.
Nice video!!
What a beautiful shot at 10:07 !!!!!!!!! Omg
Interesting catch!.....OK, I'm hooked, and subscribed!!!!!
Good video, chase, and portion w the dd was diferent and educational
Great video
that was a pretty cool video. detectors are so much more no a days the the original hot box wheel counters.
I thought for sure you were going to give the conductor a ride, the walk probably did him some good .
Might not be any road access to the place where the locomotive ended up.
I wonder if it is against the rules for the conductor to let it out of his sight too, even just for a few minutes?
@@laurasalo6160 I've seen other videos on UA-cam where the person making the video gave the train's conductor a ride back to the front of the train. I doubt it's against rules -- most of the train is out of sight to the train crew for most of their shift.
@@beeble2003 I don't know much about trains so lol take your word for it. Thanks!
Ty really enjoyed video from Kevin Kwiatkowski from Nh near Concord
Rather sad that the catenary is no longer in use. You would think in an era where we’re concerned about the environment there would be more of an effort to electrify the railroads again.
Great and interesting video. I had no idea they left freight on the Northeast corridor I always assume the freight railroads had their own line next to the right away
There are places where the freight railroads do not have an alternate route and have to use the Northeast Corridor. The NEC is the only route from Perryville to Edgemoor Delaware or Bayview, Maryland, so NS uses it. But Amtrak's trains have precedence, which is why most freight to and from the Port Road runs on the NEC at night.
There are also industries and branch lines accessible only from the NEC.
@@JugSouthgate I think when Conrail was split between CSX and NS, NS wound up with most of the previous PRR assets which included Conrail's freight rights on the NEC.
@@clarkpj1 Pretty much. Which is quite ironic - here's why: Before the disastrous Penn Central merger of 1968, there was an attempt to merge the N&W with the PRR. But it never came to be. This was a shame because the N&W and PRR were MUCH more alike than the NYC and PRR. N&W eventually merged with the Southern to form NS - and then, 30+ years later, NS gets most of what used to be PRR.
Thanks for the lesson
My dad and much older brother did nothing for two weeks each summer but chase trains in northwestern Wisconsin and northeastern Minnesota. My dad (retired) came from Florida and brother and family came from Nevada, and we never could understand what the deal was. When my dad went back to Florida, he had copies of all of the videos on cassettes and watched them all year til they fell apart. After my dad died, my brother never went again, which is weird since he was even building and selling model DM&IR engines with authentic paint (FYI, that’s the Duluth, Mesabe, and Iron Range railroad).
Good job on the video although I never did see the offending car after the reel had been moved and the train got moving again.
I don't think we had "runaround hoses" back in the day when I worked for NYC-PC but I could immediately understand why they would be a handy thing to have. Are they carried on road locomotives or are they only available in yards where MoE facilities are found?
That was a great catch
I'm shocked at the low count of views on your video and lack of comments, I shared your video on FB there's a good number of grand parents on my page that have lot's of grand kids, hopefully they will see it and pass it along and my page is set to public anyway.
i’m not a big into all of this but it’s for sure cool to learn about it and the history still
I live in that area. When hurricanes go through the Conowingo locks are all opened and the river turns fierce. I find it interesting that electric was removed for diesel 40 yrs ago, you can be sure they will be going right back to electric before the next 40 yrs go by.
It is in part why the major Pennsylvania Railroad corridors (Main Line between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia and NEC between NYC and DC) had four tracks with freight movement located on the inner tracks: the faster passenger trains can overtake the slower freight movement (also why the PRR built flying junctions such as ZOO, BELL, PARKE, THORN, etc., to facilitate freight movement onto freight-only branches without impacting passenger movements).
And yes, I have seen NS/CSX/CSAO movements on the NEC in the Philadelphia area and it is done during the overnight after SEPTA Regional Rail finishes their daily runs, allowing Amtrak to put their trains in the outer tracks used by SEPTA during the day (thus mimicking the old PRR/Penn Central traffic pattern).
Interesting find.
Nice, thanks!
Very interesting video. That lean makes me nervous no matter how low the center of gravity may be.
I'm in central PA here and have a Uniden BC125AT that I am looking to get rid of. It's a portable scanner and from what I gather, they're great for rail and air traffic. I have two antennas and I may have the manual.
Know all of those spots well! Can't wait to see the full Port Road video!
Oh I know you do! I love your Port Road videos. I wish it wasn't so much effort to get all these shots, but you know how it is! Thanks for watching.
Interesting that the scanner identified the actual car and axle.
Cool view coming over those arches on that bridge. NEW SUBSCRIBER HERE.
nice old stone bridges. So used to seeing trestle bridges on US rails.
It’s been forever and a day since I’ve walked down to the port road from the US. 40 bridge. Thank you for sharing! Quick question. Are the old catenary poles still on the line from Harrisburg to Perryville? I don’t quite recall seeing them 20 some years ago, but then again, I was enjoying the trains at night!
Some of the catenary poles remain, some were removed, depending on condition. It's been 40 years since electric operation on the Port Road ended.
What a great video from U.K. viewer
Nice catch! Thanks for showing the problem. Horn is not very loud. They should have horns facing down into the a trough running forward and rearward.
Great trip, photography, titles, and of course narration. Are you using a script?
I would love to see a high speed Amtrak coming around the banked corner at the end of the video. That was super cool. Also a question for anyone on here. In Calgary, Ab we are CP mainline west to Vancouver. When commodity trains (mainly grain and potash) go west loaded they have 2 loco's out front and one in the middle. When they come east empty, one at the front and one at the back. Why do they change the configuration? Why not leave one front and one middle? Thanks and I love the video's, so scenic and the bridge shots are interesting.
Empty cars are much more prone to stringlining in lengthy trains. By pushing half the train’s length that risk is greatly reduced. This may be their reasoning.
@@maybesomeday2596 Cool, thanks Chris. That makes good sense. Especially since the eastbound trains from Van are mostly uphill to Calgary (3,400 ft) and do go up a few big hills, especially from Field, BC to the great divide, through the spiral tunnels, 18.5 km at a 2.2% grade.