Twelve O'Clock High : S1E12 Soldiers Sometimes Kill
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- Twelve O'Clock High is an American drama series set in World War II. This TV series originally broadcast on ABC-TV for two-and-one-half TV seasons from September 18, 1964, through January 13, 1967; was based on the motion picture Twelve O'Clock High (1949).
Lansing was a really good actor who is, in my estimation, superb in this role in every aspect.
Robert Lansing as General Frank Savage , is so great , I feel as he was the best General Frank Savage , ever , and also the two star General that John Larkin acts , specifically in Climate of Doubt , is fantastic , they illustrate the WW2 in Europe very clearly and the struggles , it is serious drama! Thanks to both of them .
Love to hear the period music I remember as a child. Lots of latent memories arise.
Excellent detective mystery. Didnt miss the planes at all !
I really don't believe any inspector with half a brain would ignore the fact that General Savage stated he knew the inspector's man was tailing him in a car because he'd seen him doing it. No follow-up by the inspector? What a terrible writing blunder!
A good change of pace story.
I love these cloak and dagger stories.
Me too
Since getting into this, Robert Lansing is a great actor, whose moody demeanor really sets the pace, pity he did not make really big in Hollywood
Sadly, QM fired him after the 1st season bcz RL was vy difficult 2 work with. According 2 QM.
Do U remember RL as Gary7 in Star Trek, or Namu the Killer Whale?
Excellent change-up and very enjoyable. However, I'm sure when as a kid I was watching this episode, I was vastly disappointed since there is no war action!
8:11
Although he was in the prologue
We see a very young Tom Skerritt .
Between 12 O' clock High , Combat , Bonanza and Wagon Train , Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits . There was only so many shows to get a chance to start an acting career .
For example Ted Knight was quoted of saying " a job's a job "
We're as he played an German Officer at least twice on Combat .
Bill Shatner stared multiple times on the Twilight Zone .
Burt Reynolds appeared several times in the TV show " Gunsmoke " and at that time did his own stunts .
The list can go on about several actors that had their start on TV shows long before they made movies .
He of M*A*S*H and TOP GUN fame!
@Cheef Smokealot
OK I missed that one .
Now I've got to go find that episode
This was a good episode...a change of pace. The Inspector us the same actor that plated the SY Inspector in that movie with Grace Kelly....always liked him.
Leila L the person who played the inspector in this film played an insurance underwriter in Hitchcock’s “To Catch a Thief” with Cary Grant and Grace Kelly
English actor John Williams.
Yes, "Leila L," "Michael Chaplin" and "Euripides Panz," --
John Williams was well liked -- if people didn't always know his name, which isn't an unusual burden for being known as a 'character actor'. While his other 1960s' work on American television included nine episodes as a different Mr. French, Sebastian Cabot's Mr. French's brother -- both very British of course -- on Brian Keith's sitcom "Family Affair" covering for Cabot during his illness was absent [1967], and 'coming to the rescue' two years later during another health crisis involving a star of a popular CBS series, playing one of Scotland Yard's finest teamed with Robert Conrad's James West, 1870s Secret Service agent, on one of the several year four episodes of "The Wild Wild West" when co-lead Ross Martin was out -- and so missed -- for several shows while recovering from heart surgery.
However, the "12 O'Clock High" coincidence is that: Isn't it interesting, that while the lead of World War II drama "12 O'Clock High" {Robert Lansing] is involved with an attractive, elegant British woman [Victoria Shaw] in London in a story away from the regular fighting, two years later, 1966, also on ABC, on "Combat!"'s 'Furlough' episode Sgt. Saunders (Vic Morrow) is on an overdue break / furlough from leading his tight, well-run small squad in week-after-week war action and has a meaningful, overdue respite with a female, this one being the ever-so-elegant Carol Lawrence [guest starring] is challenged running an orphanage for children outside of London and of course challenged to the max by doing so in wartime; specifically the Nazi's relentless air strikes throughout London. Here, Williams most capably plays her father. Saunders sees a different side, a different impact, of the war while developing a mutual affection for Lawrence.
With all due respect Victoria Shaw deserves an introduction: from Australia where she was modeling in the mid 1950s, reportedly she was discovered by Bob Hope on one of his UFO tours. Once in in the U.S. a contract with Warner Bros. got her off to a promising start. That included a guest shot on "77 Sunset Strip' which starred her husband Roger Smith with whom she had a daughter and two sons during their nine-year marriage that ended in divorce, spring of 1965. (Two years later Smith and Ann-Marget married which lasted for 50 years until his death.)
Among Ms Shaw's nearly three dozen television guest shots, mostly dramatic: "The FBI," "Cimarron Strip," "The Man from U.N.C.L.E.," "Charlie's Angels," "Barnaby Jones," "Tarzan," "McCloud," "Kraft Suspense Theatre". [Ed. - Highly recommend her "Barnaby Jones" ep., 'To Catch a Dean Man' [1973], on which a mustached William Shatner guest stars as an unfaithful husband conceiving of an intricate ruse to rid himself of his wife (Shaw). Location filming at scenic Lake Sherwood, near Malibu Canyon, Janice Rule as his lover and of course Buddy Ebsen (BJ) are additional bonuses. I re-watch it every couple of years on DVD -- as with Shatner's "Columbo" visits -- and appreciate the fine work of all involved, in front of and behind the camera.]
This episode another departure... but at least it wasn't contrary to the basic theme/character of General Savage... who always did the right/correct thing regardless of the consequences for himself personally. Such code of honor... very rare these days.
What a good story. Like a English mystery story.
John Williams was also the Chief Inspector in Dial M for Murder. He seemed to be typecast in those roles.
@@ElizabethLilley He played a similar role in "Island in the Sun." There is cat-and-mouse scene with Williams and James Mason, JW is doing a Columbo-type not an interrogation but asking a series of seemingly trivial questions.
Jesus, without that Zippo, Frank's gonna have to cut back to two packs a day!
BTW, I doubt if airmen would be able to carry a lighter with a group insignia on it; there were regulations about that kind of thing; if taken prisoner it would provide some information to the enemy.
Plus pickpockets loved selling these highly marketable American imports!
Glenn Miller tunes on the piano!
Yes. Not unusual at all for 12 O'Clock High. It was a period piece, even then. And the war had only been over for 20 years at the time. Seemed like a long time when I was in 8th grade when this first aired, but looking at it today... it was just an eye blink at the time. And the Glenn Miller song on the piano was?... "I Know Why (And So Do You)" A-side, Bluebird Records 78 RPM single -11230-A. B/W "Chattanooga Choo Choo" on the B-side. Released May 07, 1941.
2:20 point...OMG, a doctor that makes house calls, this must be the 1960's. BTW thank you for putting this great show on.
Every word you say inspector seems to slip the noose a little tighter around my neck...
Any good English detective would have seen that the bullet hole from under her eye (in the painting) has the material protruding outward instead of inward (at 44:37). That hole was made by someone in the other room! There's more to this mystery than we know. Re-open that investigation!
"Don Layton," . . . or, could be due to the rushed pace of a 'period,' action-drama, weekly television series that the set decorator didn't 'think through' the plot, the mystery, the story -- or read the script -- and punched the hole from the rear of the original portrait he'd commissioned (of guest star Victoria Shaw) instead of from the front. And here we are nearly 60 years later still wondering; still debating.
Might that make the ghosts of executive producer Quinn Martin and acting talent, respectively, Robert Lansing, Victoria Shaw, Murray Matheson and John Williams proud? Because it's a quality program with participants at the top of their game I'd like to think our efforts giving it some thought and consideration are worthwhile.
. . . I dare add to the ENDLESS chorus throughout dozens of these most-appreciated, UA-cam presentations of "12 O'Clock High" episodes of 'why was Lansing canned -- or, how dare they! -- after his single season?' and 'Bob Lansing is much more effective than his replacement, Paul Burke,' but I will propose the change of pace nature of THIS particular / could hour -- for the show AND lead actor -- was handled better than what we'd anticipate Burke would deliver.
How in the world did 20th Century Fox let such a classy title such as this slip into the netherworld of Public Domain?
As always, "Thank You, 'jefke peremans,' for presenting '12 O'Clock High.'
I remember the title of this episode, not from the original broadcasts though I'm old enough to have seen them - but from a period when a Boston UHF station - you remember those, right? - ran them as regular late-night fare in the 1980's.
This one is a bit like,Twilight Zone !
Frank Savage: The sexiest general in the Army Air Force!
Oh ya.....☺
Someone slipped the General a mickey.
Old school date rape
Great Series
This represents the greatest generation in all services, my father was on in the Army - 1398 Engineering Corp in the Pacific - these people smoked back then - do you think it might have something to do with the war and stress?
My father was a farm boy, he enlisted in September 1941 at the age of 24. He never smoked once until he went into North Africa.
Stress and boredom. A lot of people I knew in the Navy didn't take up smoking until they joined.
Why are people so obsessed with the cigarette smoking? I started when I was 15 and am still going strong 48 yrs later! It's all in the genes, either you can hack it or you can't!
@@docleadpill5556 Robert Lansing died of cancer at age 66. You might live another 3 years, or not.
@Rick O’Shea Iwas in the army , never smoked, still don't and i think i have saved at least $25,000 as well as good health. With today's Covid-19, COPD, Emphysema, heavy smoking are all sure killers.
What a friggin' melodrama. But they didn't have to wear out any stock combat footage to produce this episode. That P-47's streak of kills got broken.
Hmmm... bad anachronism that anyone watching this program at the time would easily spot. Vinyl LPs didn't start appearing in consumer mass until the mid-1950s. There were prototypes before that, but 78s still dominated the market after the 1948 formal introduction for a few years.
At what time in the show did you see the LP'?
Yes, my father, a WWII vet, had a large collection of 78s with big band music. Only a few LPs that he added in the 1950s.
Well, that was an interesting if not somewhat melodramatic episode. The only part I didn't understand was, why did the woman have a portrait of Petula Clark hanging on the wall of her flat?
I remember being taken in by the historical inaccuracies in this show. By the time America was in the air war in Europe the Blitz was long past. Yet the writers of this series had no qualms adhering to such details if they got in the way of the script.
Of course, since when do facts have anything at all to do with a Hollywood film, especially when it comes to the military!
Russ G, when did the German bombers stop bombing England? I am not talking V-1's & V-2's. When did German bombers stop their bombing of England totally? Wasn't it past 40,41,42, 43, 44, or 45. You note the Blitz but I think you are closure to the battle of Brittan?!
@@rodfirefighter8341 Hi Rod there was a period known as The Baby Blitz in early 1944. I believe this series was set around 1943- 1944.
THIS show LOST a LOT when they got rid of Robert Lansing !
The TV guide.called 12 o clock low. When Landsimg was replaced with Burke
Why was he replaced?
Absolutely. Lansing was GREAT in this show
Lansing as General Savage did an awesome job! So disappointed that he was replaced on the show. His character was outstanding!
It is a wartime show. In war people die.
This episode is similar to one in the Dangerman series with Patrick McGoohan...amnesia...the club...
Imagine that.
General will you stop falling for every pretty face!
This guys like Captain Kirk.
Thats so funny. I always loved how Kirk would get it on with every chick, no matter what galaxy she was from !
Frank Savage: Looks at Lt. Lathrop like he's nuts for wanting to marry a woman he literally met the night before.
Frank Savage: Mistrustful of Gen. Crowe's French girlfriend.
Also Frank Savage, bless his heart: Catches feelings in one evening for a woman (who throws up some pretty glaring red flags, even in black and white) who roofies him. 🤦♀️
Victoria Shaw was a very beautiful trap for the General, who could resist her.
Did anyone else think of "Dial M for Murder" upon seeing John Williams?
I didn't even recognize Tom Skerritt
The beginning of a Top Gun
Dang.I gotta go back and look again!
Nothing heals a concussion better than chain smoking cigarettes!
It does take the edge off the pain.
I was wondering if anybody else noticed that. Knew right where they were.
Nightclubs sure have changed...
Yes, nightclubs have changed, but personally I prefer the 1940s style as depicted here. Classy, elegant, and romantic.
Damn honey traps....
Notice the turntable? Long play records did not exist during WWll.
Radio stations used to broadcast programs from "Electronic Transcriptions" I believe they were usually 12 inch.
Most if not all of the old time radio shows that you can find today were recorded on these ETs, even from the 30's and 40's.
I loved those ole' red tele booths. They still had them in 1980. Do they still have them I wonder?
No. Removed and sold years ago.
Mostly for scrap.
Dr. Who still has one.
General Savage was the Capt Kirk of WW II. Lots of girlfriends. The English woman Liz?, Dyna Winters two episodes ago, now this woman. Damn.
This is one of the what I like to call the "Liz who?" episodes.
Savage. SMOKE Smoke SMOKE THAT CIGARETTE
General thinking with his joint …. ?
Ive seen them all at least once. And Im not really into the airwar that much, but the writing!! And the characters, are first rate. Each show could stand on its own as a movie. One of the times when the show is superior to the movie. (Also MASH, show was better than the movie)
I read that Lansing died of cancer, I wonder if it was due to all the cigarettes he smoked.
+TheChsmith Well you can never unsmoke one. Smoking does contribute to lung cancer.
He was a chain smoker. Only 66 when he died.
TheChsmith! Every episode the man had a cigarette, Good Actor just could not help smoking a lot.
You just knew it was a tense moment in the story when the pressures of command - or maybe just a nicotine fit - drove Frank Savage to light another coffin nail!
To All: who are we to judge the man? Oh, I forget that we are holier than thou
With a US general under suspicion, but not a prime suspect, would not the London PD have had to notify the Army CID, Provost Marshall, etc... of their interest in Savage?
General Savage does vocal fry better than any valley girl.
Given that "a police inspector is a relatively low rank in British police forces, this inspector has a huge and quite lavish office especially for one that was doing the investigative work himself (unless because a general was involved as a suspect).
Secondly, he is quite aged for someone of that rank!
Because it was wartime and most younger police officers would have been called up, he was either called out of retirement to fill gaps or not a very good "inspector" & failed to get promotions - but if the latter I doubt if he would have got that sort of office.
He was aged because all healthy younger men would have been in the military at that time
@@motomark9736 Ah ha, A bit like detective chief superintendent Foyle in "Foyles War". An for the American consumer's understanding, "Inspector" is quite a senior rank I believe, so those consumers would not want to be confused.
I've watched this up to 27:10. I think Tom Skerrit did it.
If only Perry Mason was here!
Instead of cigarettes, do you think it might be because of life?
cancer? well, chuck connors, the Marlboro man, Yul Brynner, John Wayne, and many others were all heavy smokers who died of cancer.
@@watchgoose Yul Brenner and John Wayne both were in films shot in nuclear fallout zones. That couldn't have helped.
ptsd strikes again !!
I really don't believe any inspector with half a brain would ignore the fact that General Savage stated he knew the inspector's man was tailing him in a car because he'd seen him doing it. No follow-up by the inspector? What a terrible writing blunder!
Tom Skerritt alive and well at 89. Clean living?
No matter how bad the concussion....the cigarettes are easily found and lite...guess the show was sponsored by phillip Morris or Marlboro cigarettes!
I love Marlboros, best smoke in my opinion!
Lansing was a chain smoker. That said, smoking was prevalent in both movies and TV shows at the time. It seemed to be the "cool" thing to do.
@@williamrobinson827 And many more will pay the price (for being cool).
I was wondering if anybody else noticed that.
Would the British prosecute an American General who is fighting to save their country?
The General's day out!
Adults smoked ( and drank ) during the war. Get over it!!!😮
They should've transfer general savage to the pacific front instead of you know being killed off.
Filter cigs back then,Hmmmmm.
he sure gets lucky a lot. only 2 episodes before it was the English woman officer with cancer.
I'm 12 minutes in.. I think I'll pass on this episode
Yes, it was.
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Robert Lansing
AKA Robert Howell Brown
Born: 5-Jun-1928
Birthplace: San Diego, CA
Died: 23-Oct-1994
Location of death: New York City
Cause of death: Cancer - Lung
Remains: Buried, Union Field Cemetery, Ridgewood, Queens, NY
Gender: Male
Race or Ethnicity: White
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Actor
Nationality: United States
Executive summary: Empire of the Ants
Wife: Emily McLaughlin (m. 15-Jun-1956, div. 11-Apr-1968, one son)
Son: Robert Frederick Orin Lansing
Wife: Gari Hardy (m. 2-Nov-1969, div. 1971, one daughter)
Daughter: Alice Lucille (b. 1970)
Wife: Anne Pivar (m. 25-Oct-1981, until his death)
TELEVISION
Kung Fu: The Legend Continues Paul Blaisdell (1993-94)
The Equalizer Control (1985-89)
Automan Lt. Jack Curtis (1983-84)
Twelve O'Clock High Gen. Frank Savage (1964-65)
87th Precinct Det. Steve Carella (1961-62)
FILMOGRAPHY AS ACTOR
Bionic Showdown: The Six Million Dollar Man and the Bionic Woman (30-Apr-1989)
The Nest (Jan-1988)
Empire of the Ants (Jul-1977)
Bittersweet Love (Oct-1976) · Howard
Wild in the Sky (Mar-1972)
The Grissom Gang (28-May-1971)
It Takes All Kinds (Aug-1969)
Namu, My Best Friend (1-Aug-1966)
An Eye for an Eye (1966)
Under the Yum Yum Tree (23-Oct-1963) · Charles
A Gathering of Eagles (21-Jun-1963)
4D Man (7-Oct-1959) · Scott Nelson
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It's a shame that Biden was too old to be called up for WWII..He might have learned something.
Seriously?
That's alright...bone spurs kept Trump out of Vietnam. Fortunately for him it didn't affect his tennis matches or his golf habit.
Only if the police were really like this…lol…
Kinda soap opera stuff...but what the heck.
The airplanes were expensive to operate!
Yeah, but for one episode it was fun and acceptable.
A lot of smoking and drinking…
Ran out of storyline so fast ? War stories turned into a civilian murder story.