Sources and shoutouts to @thevividen and @overseerdebates for sources and assistance, Ausarchosaur for some feedback and Super Masterpiece for the Blender volume of the Prehistoric Dragon. Dragons A Fantasy Made Real-2004 Animal Planet Documentary High quality footage here: ua-cam.com/video/QsKWqPOTf_k/v-deo.html&t ua-cam.com/video/puyHRyUnpWo/v-deo.html&t Accompanying artbook by Scholastic Tyrannosaur group behavior: peerj.com/articles/11013/ www.theguardian.com/science/2014/jul/23/tyrannosaurs-hunted-packs-tracks-canada T.rex/Alamo/Quetz environments: Paleoecology of a late Cretaceous vertebrate community from Montana Dinosaurs of the Lance Formation in eastern Wyoming Dinosaur Distribution-Weishampel, D. B.; Barrett, P. M.; Coria, R. A.; Loeuff, J. L.; Xu, X.; Zhao, X.; Sahni, A.; Gomani, E. M. P.; Noto, C. R. (2004). www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3036655/ T.rex bites and battle damage: www.myfossil.org/featured-fossil-triceratops-vs-tyrannosaurus/ www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02724634.1996.10011297 www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1216534110 T.rex size: www.chicagotribune.com/2019/03/29/scotty-vs-sue-is-the-canadian-t-rex-really-bigger-than-chicagos-the-field-museum-disputes-new-study/ Cope estimates: ua-cam.com/video/R7B7X3ggb2A/v-deo.html T.rex IQ and senses: The Rise and Fall of the Dinosaurs. Brusatten, Steve (2018) www.researchgate.net/publication/256536375 web.archive.org/web/20120929190336/www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/7500/title/Sight_for_Saur_Eyes_%3Ci%3ET._rex%3Ci%3E_vision_was_among_natures_best ix.cs.uoregon.edu/~kent/paleontology/binocularVision/ www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/t-rex-had-amazing-sense-of-small-genes-reveal-dinosaurs-olfaction www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2660930/ www.jstor.org/stable/4524572?seq=8 T.rex speed: palaeo-electronica.org/2009_3/180/index.html www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6387760/ www.cambridge.org/core/journals/paleobiology/article/abs/analysis-of-hindlimb-muscle-moment-arms-in-tyrannosaurus-rex-using-a-threedimensional-musculoskeletal-computer-model-implications-for-stance-gait-and-speed/30DD414511DEB56D79A5C6281A284320 www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/07/170717115657.htm Quetz weight: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2981443/ Quetz feeding: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2386974/ ua-cam.com/video/NmosCtNCJSs/v-deo.html www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2981443/ archive.org/details/dinosaursofairev0000paul Alamosaurus weight: www.gspauldino.com/Titanomass.pdf The First Giant Titanosaurian Sauropod from the Upper Cretaceous of North America ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2020dffs.book.....M/abstract www.geol.umd.edu/~tholtz/dinoappendix/appendix.html www.newmexicoculture.org/release/1503/30 T.rex population and lifecycle: doc.rero.ch/record/15279/files/PAL_E2578.pdf pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3036655/ Pleistocene China animal life: www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S003101822300161X phys.org/news/2020-10-bovid-rhinocerous-species-tibetan-plateau.html www.reddit.com/r/pleistocene/comments/103zxqr/what_animal_that_live_in_pleistocene_china/ www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1040618219309371 lveho.ivpp.cas.cn/kycg/lw/201404/P020140410313524225167.pdf hal.science/hal-04073852v1/file/Yabin%20Fan%20et%20al.%20QSR%202022.pdf www.researchgate.net/publication/222562975_Predator-prey_relationships_and_responses_of_ungulates_and_their_predators_to_the_establishment_of_protected_areas_A_case_study_of_tigers_leopards_and_their_prey_in_Bardia_National_Park_Nepal www.frontiersin.org/journals/earth-science/articles/10.3389/feart.2022.830798/full www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0277379123001208 lveho.ivpp.cas.cn/kycg/lw/201404/P020140410313524225167.pdf www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-96260-4 hal.science/hal-04073852v1/file/Yabin%20Fan%20et%20al.%20QSR%202022.pdf www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1040618207001838#:~:text=The%20main%20Early%20Pleistocene%20carnivores,Panthera%20uncia%20were%20also%20present Cave hyena dominance: www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0305440312000258?via%3Dihub www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0031018222002954?via%3Dihub www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0277379113004046?via%3Dihub www.geology.cz/bulletin/fulltext/bullgeosci200604237.pdf Bocherens2015 bioone.org/journals/geodiversitas/volume-37/issue-2/g2015n2a5/Large-mammals-of-Fouvent-Saint-Andoche-Haute-Sa%C3%B4ne-France/10.5252/g2015n2a5.short Mammoth steppe carnivores: www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S027737910400294X www.sci.news/paleontology/science-pleistocene-hyper-carnivores-03379.html www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0277379124001628 www.reddit.com/r/Naturewasmetal/comments/1apv59n/megantereon_the_first_of_the_dirktoothed_cats/ has many Megantereon and co sources Mammoth steppe collapse and human impact: phys.org/news/2024-10-mammalian-fossils-reveal-southern-europe.html www.sciencealert.com/ancient-humans-were-apex-predators-for-2-million-years-study-discovers ua-cam.com/video/tdvU8VsgQp8/v-deo.html hal.science/hal-04073852v1/file/Yabin%20Fan%20et%20al.%20QSR%202022.pdf www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1040618207001838#:~:text=The%20main%20Early%20Pleistocene%20carnivores,Panthera%20uncia%20were%20also%20present www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0277379110001265 pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7893252/#:~:text=Cave%20hyenas%20(genus%20Crocuta),cave%20hyenas.&text=previous%20studies%20have%20proposed,cave%20hyenas.&text=a%20deeply%20diverging%20mitochondrial,cave%20hyenas.&text=at%20least%20partially%20due,cave%20hyenas. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18199470/#:~:text=Our%20study%20supports%20the,habitat%20fragmentation.&text=idea%20that%20the%20late,habitat%20fragmentation.&text=extinctions%20were%20environmentally%20driven,habitat%20fragmentation.&text=by%20climatic%20changes%20that,habitat%20fragmentation. www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-27439-6#:~:text=Alternatively%2C%20an%20increasing%20moisture,it%20supported.&text=rise%20of%20mesic-adapted%20woody,it%20supported.&text=bison%2C%20and%20horse)16%2C28%2C29%2C30%2C%20along,it%20supported.&text=climate%20change%20and%20attendant,it%20supported. www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1040618217305724 academic.oup.com/jmammal/article-abstract/99/5/1249/5052734
A friend of mine thought that documentary was real. It was so awkward because it was in the middle of a D&D game when someone said they wished dragons were real and he said "They were though, haven't you seen that documentary?" Everyone at the table had seen it because we were big nerds but we all just went silent and stared at him for a moment to see if he was kidding. I feel bad for him.
That Animal Planet mockumentary was one of my favorite things as a kid, and I still adore it to this day. As soon as I was able to appreciate the science side better and had more knowledge about the mythology, I found it even cooler. This was very cool, too. I love the idea of updating it this way.
Absolutely awesome, glad you returned to the spec ecology videos. Would like to see a sequel of some of the Cenozoic dragons in Pleistocene North America or Africa, since both were packed with predators and enormous prey, would be absolute hell
Nice Video, I've always Liked this Documentary, shame it's been forgotten by majority of People, this was a very interesting topic you chose, would love to see more bizarre scenarios and potential what -ifs thrown around.
I think your underestimating the dragons chances of killing large sauropods. They could easily be their main predators. Long, exposed, and relatively immobile necks would not be useful against multiple ton flying creatures with razor sharp claws. That might actually be why their claws are so sharp and left such deep gouges in the rex: slicing open the necks of sauropods would require very sharp claws, although it could easily be accomplished with a high speed air attack. A multiple ton animal hitting something very fast with the tips of very sharp objects would cut through a lot of things. Now this would be dangerous as missing could result in its wing hitting the sauropods neck, which would break them immediately, but still.
I disagree. T.rex was more than capable of dealing wounds of that caliber to each other as well. Dragon talons are sharp, but it was more likely the sheer impact force that drove them as deep as they went and that was when completely caught off guard. When the mother dragon fights the rex he's easily able to evade her claw strikes. Sauropod necks were extremely thick and strong and the dragon would be at an awkward angle of attack to give them good momentum and this is assuming the sauropod doesn't just see it coming and slam its gigantic tail or neck into the dragon.
Really great video okay oh yeah I think this is the best video you ever made I hope you cover more mythical animals because because my god do I like mythical animals
That is very interesting and love this video. And it's quite a coincidence since I am actually going to do a trio of videos in this month about the mountain dragon as a special in my channel 😊
@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 thank you for your fondness for my work and indeed, definitely great timing. And how did you get the size references for the dragons?
@@paleo-zoo-keeper-association I measured them compared to the animals we see them with. Prehistoric dragon compared to T.rex, forest dragon compared to the tiger, mountain dragon height next to humans and body mass was given for the juvenile-I used the square cube law to estimate the adult's body mass.
I'll tell you this. I like Showa Godzilla more than Heisei Godzilla, but I'm very well aware that the 50 meter chad is no match for 100 meter gigachad.
I could imagine the dragon using its inteligence & speed. Carrying a rock, flying & arcing down from great heights to sling the rock and headshot a sauropod. If it misses it could try again or aim for an ankylosaurus, a triceratops, or another similar sized dino. It could feel like getting hit by a 17th century cannon ball. If a dragon was really angry it could use similar tactics but at human forts already beseiged by other humans, letting both human armies weaken each other enough for the dragon to third party and finish off the humans. A feast for dragons. A problem is that i am not sure if the documentary showed dragons being smart enough to use tools. But it did show dragons using rocks in their oven like nests.
Well we know prehistoric dragon flight is difficult to attain because of their size. Even a few (hundred?) kilos of meat in the stomach prevent flight entirely. A large stone would be too heavy to lift.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Good point. I guess the second best tactic would be to burn a dry forest or field to ambush panicking animals from above.
The Prehistoric Dragon was my favorite design. I like that it's a Theropod adapted to flight. And that its fire breath serves defensive functions since it's an ineffective hunting resource. But my problem with this dragon is that it's too big to fly and because it already has too many advantages over a Tyrannosaurus (size, flight, and fire breath). Evolution doesn't usually over-equip organisms with more than they need. Also the patagium is very short; it should reach to the beginning of the tail and it should be quadrupedal for more efficient launching. Also the gas takes up too much space, and it would take a huge amount of gas to help them float, so a dragon would have to look like a balloon to work. And anyway if they burn too much, eventually the dragon won't be able to fly or blow, making it an easy target. So I prefer to separate the fire breath from the flight. Liquid fuel takes up less space and is more directable than gas. Personally, I see the prehistoric dragon as a hunter of small prey that it can take to its nest and an opportunistic scavenger. As for the other dragons, my principal problem with them is that they are unnecessarily hexapodal.
I have found remains of one of the largest dragons known in history. Leviathan. His skeletal remains measure from nose to tail 14,450 kilometers long and it had pectoral fins that measured 1000 kilometers long each . He is massive! You can find him too.
13:14 wait wha…? Isn’t Gigantopitheus a giant ape closely in family tree to Orangutans? Than the Horse that adopted the Gorilla body plan known as Chalicotheres Edit: my ears why… I accidentally thought you meant to say Gigantopitheus the last of the Chalicotheres. 20:47 Finally Skyrims most wanted match up (not really) as finally come to light screw the Dovahkiin we have a Dragon vs Dovahbear.
About the other Dragons: My problem with them is that they are unnecessarily Hexapods. The Sea Dragon, instead of having an extra pair of wings, its arms could perfectly be small wings converted into paddles. The wings of the Forest Dragon are too small to even serve for gliding. Also, with the limited amount of fire breath, it would use it all up before cooking its food properly, burning it only superficially. As for the Mountain Dragon, besides being Hexapod (and the patagium not reaching the tail), it lacks a feather coat to protect it from the cold and the forest would be a bad place to hunt, with so many trees together to spread the wings. In this case, the African Savannah would fit better with its biology. In fact, in ancient bestiaries (and the legend of Dan Jorge) dragons were described as native to Ethiopia. PS. Wow! Hyenas are like land Orcas.
I did not make them into hexapods, the documentary's excuse is a mutation caused dragons to consistently generate an extra set of limbs. Of course that's not realistic, but neither are the large reptiles breathing fire. Food gives it more fuel for hydrogen which gets more fire. The cycle continues. Given they're over a ton in weight and have a biological furnace in their bodies, they should be plenty warm. And they're from the mammoth steppe.
@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Whatever their origin, they didn't need extra limbs anyway. Yes, but with the limited hydrogen they have to store, they couldn't cook enough their food. Weighing a ton is too heavy to be able to fly (a Quetzalcoatlus weighed no more than 200 kg). And the gas bag is too small to help a mass of that size float. In any case, even with their large size and metabolism, a down coat wouldn't be superfluous (a mammoth was also large and warm-blooded and still had a natural coat to prevent heat loss).
That would be an epic face off to witness. I bet the Indominus Rex would be able to use its camouflage ability to ambush the prehistoric Dragon if the fight took place near a forest or a swamp. The dragon's fire breath would certainly be a deadly weapon for our Untameble Queen
If you're interested, I made a post on my Reddit account that you'll really like. It's the power of the Showa, Heisei, and Millenium Godzilla's based on what I originally believed to the truth.
realistically dragons would be the size of birds. A matter of fact tarasaurs might have been what inspired dragons. And are the closest thing that you're going to get to a dragon in real life.
@ pepole so dinosaurs imagination was not invented so they so big reptiles and put wings and stuff Remeber thst knight story of Saint George & the dragon In reality that was a Baryonyx poor thing did not meet a good end that’s where the story came from Dinosaurs dead after the flood thanks to man
KoTM, the PS4 Kaiju Guides show that the Kaiju have their same origins and history as their movie counterparts. Could I say that the PS4 Kaiju exist in an alternate timeline but would be as canon as their movie counterparts to argue that the PS4 Kaiju have the same scaling from their movie incarnations?
Minor nitpick. 15:46 you said Machali killed a 4 meter mugger crocodile. The size of the mugger killed by Machali was never measured and only estimated by an eyewitness, which isn't really reliable. E.g, we have an eyewitness account of an average sized Nile crocodile killing a 1800 kg female black rhino, obv bs when you consider that even male black rhinos rarely reach this size, and since the mugger was never measured accurately, the 4m claim is no different.
And fyi, modern mugger crocos only grow abt 3m, so claiming Machali killed this monster specimen (a 4m mugger weighed 365 kg) is not really logical considering how rare it would be for Machali to find one, let alone fight and kill it. I'm not trying to downplay Machali here, she killed a croco (from the images and original video) larger than herself (It took 2.5 hours for the croco to die). I can send sources personally if you like.
What we think are dragons never existed but there were dinosaurs, long before the world knew the word dinosaurs there were dragons and when dinosaur fossils were found then they were thought of as dragons and dinosaurs the word and knowledge did not come about until the 1800's.
@prayashgurung9320 Land based dragons could get pretty big. Lizards like Megalania got big, aquatic just look at mosasaurs and ichthyosaurs and aerial, probably smaller than big pterosaurs if we keep them heavily armed with weapons.
Sources and shoutouts to @thevividen and @overseerdebates for sources and assistance, Ausarchosaur for some feedback and Super Masterpiece for the Blender volume of the Prehistoric Dragon.
Dragons A Fantasy Made Real-2004 Animal Planet Documentary
High quality footage here:
ua-cam.com/video/QsKWqPOTf_k/v-deo.html&t
ua-cam.com/video/puyHRyUnpWo/v-deo.html&t
Accompanying artbook by Scholastic
Tyrannosaur group behavior:
peerj.com/articles/11013/
www.theguardian.com/science/2014/jul/23/tyrannosaurs-hunted-packs-tracks-canada
T.rex/Alamo/Quetz environments:
Paleoecology of a late Cretaceous vertebrate community from Montana
Dinosaurs of the Lance Formation in eastern Wyoming
Dinosaur Distribution-Weishampel, D. B.; Barrett, P. M.; Coria, R. A.; Loeuff, J. L.; Xu, X.; Zhao, X.; Sahni, A.; Gomani, E. M. P.; Noto, C. R. (2004).
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3036655/
T.rex bites and battle damage:
www.myfossil.org/featured-fossil-triceratops-vs-tyrannosaurus/
www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02724634.1996.10011297
www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1216534110
T.rex size: www.chicagotribune.com/2019/03/29/scotty-vs-sue-is-the-canadian-t-rex-really-bigger-than-chicagos-the-field-museum-disputes-new-study/
Cope estimates: ua-cam.com/video/R7B7X3ggb2A/v-deo.html
T.rex IQ and senses:
The Rise and Fall of the Dinosaurs. Brusatten, Steve (2018)
www.researchgate.net/publication/256536375
web.archive.org/web/20120929190336/www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/7500/title/Sight_for_Saur_Eyes_%3Ci%3ET._rex%3Ci%3E_vision_was_among_natures_best
ix.cs.uoregon.edu/~kent/paleontology/binocularVision/
www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/t-rex-had-amazing-sense-of-small-genes-reveal-dinosaurs-olfaction
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2660930/
www.jstor.org/stable/4524572?seq=8
T.rex speed: palaeo-electronica.org/2009_3/180/index.html
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6387760/
www.cambridge.org/core/journals/paleobiology/article/abs/analysis-of-hindlimb-muscle-moment-arms-in-tyrannosaurus-rex-using-a-threedimensional-musculoskeletal-computer-model-implications-for-stance-gait-and-speed/30DD414511DEB56D79A5C6281A284320
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/07/170717115657.htm
Quetz weight: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2981443/
Quetz feeding: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2386974/
ua-cam.com/video/NmosCtNCJSs/v-deo.html
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2981443/
archive.org/details/dinosaursofairev0000paul
Alamosaurus weight:
www.gspauldino.com/Titanomass.pdf
The First Giant Titanosaurian Sauropod from the Upper Cretaceous of North America
ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2020dffs.book.....M/abstract
www.geol.umd.edu/~tholtz/dinoappendix/appendix.html
www.newmexicoculture.org/release/1503/30
T.rex population and lifecycle:
doc.rero.ch/record/15279/files/PAL_E2578.pdf
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3036655/
Pleistocene China animal life:
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S003101822300161X
phys.org/news/2020-10-bovid-rhinocerous-species-tibetan-plateau.html
www.reddit.com/r/pleistocene/comments/103zxqr/what_animal_that_live_in_pleistocene_china/
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1040618219309371
lveho.ivpp.cas.cn/kycg/lw/201404/P020140410313524225167.pdf
hal.science/hal-04073852v1/file/Yabin%20Fan%20et%20al.%20QSR%202022.pdf
www.researchgate.net/publication/222562975_Predator-prey_relationships_and_responses_of_ungulates_and_their_predators_to_the_establishment_of_protected_areas_A_case_study_of_tigers_leopards_and_their_prey_in_Bardia_National_Park_Nepal
www.frontiersin.org/journals/earth-science/articles/10.3389/feart.2022.830798/full
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0277379123001208
lveho.ivpp.cas.cn/kycg/lw/201404/P020140410313524225167.pdf
www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-96260-4
hal.science/hal-04073852v1/file/Yabin%20Fan%20et%20al.%20QSR%202022.pdf
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1040618207001838#:~:text=The%20main%20Early%20Pleistocene%20carnivores,Panthera%20uncia%20were%20also%20present
Cave hyena dominance:
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0305440312000258?via%3Dihub
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0031018222002954?via%3Dihub
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0277379113004046?via%3Dihub
www.geology.cz/bulletin/fulltext/bullgeosci200604237.pdf
Bocherens2015
bioone.org/journals/geodiversitas/volume-37/issue-2/g2015n2a5/Large-mammals-of-Fouvent-Saint-Andoche-Haute-Sa%C3%B4ne-France/10.5252/g2015n2a5.short
Mammoth steppe carnivores:
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S027737910400294X
www.sci.news/paleontology/science-pleistocene-hyper-carnivores-03379.html
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0277379124001628
www.reddit.com/r/Naturewasmetal/comments/1apv59n/megantereon_the_first_of_the_dirktoothed_cats/ has many Megantereon and co sources
Mammoth steppe collapse and human impact:
phys.org/news/2024-10-mammalian-fossils-reveal-southern-europe.html
www.sciencealert.com/ancient-humans-were-apex-predators-for-2-million-years-study-discovers
ua-cam.com/video/tdvU8VsgQp8/v-deo.html
hal.science/hal-04073852v1/file/Yabin%20Fan%20et%20al.%20QSR%202022.pdf
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1040618207001838#:~:text=The%20main%20Early%20Pleistocene%20carnivores,Panthera%20uncia%20were%20also%20present
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0277379110001265
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7893252/#:~:text=Cave%20hyenas%20(genus%20Crocuta),cave%20hyenas.&text=previous%20studies%20have%20proposed,cave%20hyenas.&text=a%20deeply%20diverging%20mitochondrial,cave%20hyenas.&text=at%20least%20partially%20due,cave%20hyenas.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18199470/#:~:text=Our%20study%20supports%20the,habitat%20fragmentation.&text=idea%20that%20the%20late,habitat%20fragmentation.&text=extinctions%20were%20environmentally%20driven,habitat%20fragmentation.&text=by%20climatic%20changes%20that,habitat%20fragmentation.
www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-27439-6#:~:text=Alternatively%2C%20an%20increasing%20moisture,it%20supported.&text=rise%20of%20mesic-adapted%20woody,it%20supported.&text=bison%2C%20and%20horse)16%2C28%2C29%2C30%2C%20along,it%20supported.&text=climate%20change%20and%20attendant,it%20supported.
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1040618217305724
academic.oup.com/jmammal/article-abstract/99/5/1249/5052734
How is your December so far?
A friend of mine thought that documentary was real. It was so awkward because it was in the middle of a D&D game when someone said they wished dragons were real and he said "They were though, haven't you seen that documentary?" Everyone at the table had seen it because we were big nerds but we all just went silent and stared at him for a moment to see if he was kidding. I feel bad for him.
I understand how he felt. I also thought dragons are real because of that documentary. Actually, I think a lot of people did
That Animal Planet mockumentary was one of my favorite things as a kid, and I still adore it to this day. As soon as I was able to appreciate the science side better and had more knowledge about the mythology, I found it even cooler.
This was very cool, too. I love the idea of updating it this way.
Thank you
Absolutely awesome, glad you returned to the spec ecology videos. Would like to see a sequel of some of the Cenozoic dragons in Pleistocene North America or Africa, since both were packed with predators and enormous prey, would be absolute hell
Yeah that would be a lot easier to do as well.
hey gkotm would you also do a vid if the v rex or either indominus rex or megaprimatus king kong could survive the Mesozoic era by any chance ?
@gman546 Possibly.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 if so which of the three that i suggested would you add on a possible future upcoming vid
@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Dinosaurs could be ROASTED living among Dragons!
cool video, always like seeing this doc get some love
Thank you
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 of course can't wait to see the next dragoncember vid
Dragons a fantasy made real is my favorite science fiction documentary
If you are a fan go see the paleo zoo keepers association for their return to life
Soon to be science fact.
Probably one of the more interesting videos ive watched, the documentary was very fun to watch after all
Nice Video, I've always Liked this Documentary, shame it's been forgotten by majority of People, this was a very interesting topic you chose, would love to see more bizarre scenarios and potential what -ifs thrown around.
Man that documentary was my childhood back when it aired on animal planet
Great video.
Was looking forward to this video and it did not disappoint. Great work!
Thanks a lot! Glad you liked it!
Watching Home Alone 2 tonight?
The wait was worth it, it’s awesome who despite being from a 2 decades old documentary, these dragons still hold up (for the most part)
I think your underestimating the dragons chances of killing large sauropods. They could easily be their main predators. Long, exposed, and relatively immobile necks would not be useful against multiple ton flying creatures with razor sharp claws. That might actually be why their claws are so sharp and left such deep gouges in the rex: slicing open the necks of sauropods would require very sharp claws, although it could easily be accomplished with a high speed air attack. A multiple ton animal hitting something very fast with the tips of very sharp objects would cut through a lot of things. Now this would be dangerous as missing could result in its wing hitting the sauropods neck, which would break them immediately, but still.
I disagree. T.rex was more than capable of dealing wounds of that caliber to each other as well. Dragon talons are sharp, but it was more likely the sheer impact force that drove them as deep as they went and that was when completely caught off guard. When the mother dragon fights the rex he's easily able to evade her claw strikes. Sauropod necks were extremely thick and strong and the dragon would be at an awkward angle of attack to give them good momentum and this is assuming the sauropod doesn't just see it coming and slam its gigantic tail or neck into the dragon.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 That Prehistoric Dragon is way better equipped to kill a Sauropod than a T Rex.
@@aryanbarnwal8677 It truly is not
This is one of your most interesting videos so far I really liked it.
W video and cool unique idea
Nice video.
Really great video okay oh yeah I think this is the best video you ever made I hope you cover more mythical animals because because my god do I like mythical animals
Watching Family Matters or Walking with Dinosaurs the movie tonight?
I'll add sources later but currently it's a lot.
hey @godzillakingofthemonster what do you think of poeple hatin you also im just asking because i want to be a powerscaler but i don't wanna do drama
@jalalaziz9648 I don't care what people think.
@jalalaziz9648 it's an eventual part of the job, get used to it
just curious but where did you find that prehistoric dragon 3D model?
Still my favorite Godzilla scaler when can we get more of that
dude this is such a awsome concept and awsome what if
Great video and topic. Congrats on 5 thousand subs !
Thanks!
Just realised you hit 5k
Congrats
That is very interesting and love this video. And it's quite a coincidence since I am actually going to do a trio of videos in this month about the mountain dragon as a special in my channel 😊
I've been quite fond of your work for some time, what great timing!
@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 thank you for your fondness for my work and indeed, definitely great timing.
And how did you get the size references for the dragons?
@@paleo-zoo-keeper-association I measured them compared to the animals we see them with. Prehistoric dragon compared to T.rex, forest dragon compared to the tiger, mountain dragon height next to humans and body mass was given for the juvenile-I used the square cube law to estimate the adult's body mass.
I'll tell you this. I like Showa Godzilla more than Heisei Godzilla, but I'm very well aware that the 50 meter chad is no match for 100 meter gigachad.
Congratulations for hitting 5k 🎉
The premiere music was fire
I like your videos keep your videos up
Peak video
Finally a new video. You need to make more content my friend
I upload weekly.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 I'd like more
very cool vid bro 3 year old me was convinced that dragons were real
Neothosauridae(gliding lizards) family:hey im here
I like your video that is unexpected and what about Godzilla?
Do you think Godzilla couldn't survive?
Godzilla would destroy the planet
Godzilla would be crushed by his own weight.
There is a popular death battle match is king ghidorah vs deathwing(Godzilla vs world of Warcraft)
Deathwing's power is very strange to get stuff on.
nice video but what about the marine dragon?
We have no information on him so I couldn't say anything.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 oh that right i tried the marine dragon video before i couldnt find any info only little info on it
You should do the Indominus Rex in the Mesozoic Expansion and modern day and how it’d do.
I could imagine the dragon using its inteligence & speed. Carrying a rock, flying & arcing down from great heights to sling the rock and headshot a sauropod. If it misses it could try again or aim for an ankylosaurus, a triceratops, or another similar sized dino. It could feel like getting hit by a 17th century cannon ball. If a dragon was really angry it could use similar tactics but at human forts already beseiged by other humans, letting both human armies weaken each other enough for the dragon to third party and finish off the humans. A feast for dragons.
A problem is that i am not sure if the documentary showed dragons being smart enough to use tools. But it did show dragons using rocks in their oven like nests.
Well we know prehistoric dragon flight is difficult to attain because of their size. Even a few (hundred?) kilos of meat in the stomach prevent flight entirely. A large stone would be too heavy to lift.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Good point. I guess the second best tactic would be to burn a dry forest or field to ambush panicking animals from above.
As a dragon myself, I can agree that some of these facts are true.
The Prehistoric Dragon was my favorite design. I like that it's a Theropod adapted to flight. And that its fire breath serves defensive functions since it's an ineffective hunting resource.
But my problem with this dragon is that it's too big to fly and because it already has too many advantages over a Tyrannosaurus (size, flight, and fire breath). Evolution doesn't usually over-equip organisms with more than they need.
Also the patagium is very short; it should reach to the beginning of the tail and it should be quadrupedal for more efficient launching.
Also the gas takes up too much space, and it would take a huge amount of gas to help them float, so a dragon would have to look like a balloon to work. And anyway if they burn too much, eventually the dragon won't be able to fly or blow, making it an easy target.
So I prefer to separate the fire breath from the flight.
Liquid fuel takes up less space and is more directable than gas.
Personally, I see the prehistoric dragon as a hunter of small prey that it can take to its nest and an opportunistic scavenger.
As for the other dragons, my principal problem with them is that they are unnecessarily hexapodal.
I have found remains of one of the largest dragons known in history. Leviathan. His skeletal remains measure from nose to tail 14,450 kilometers long and it had pectoral fins that measured 1000 kilometers long each . He is massive! You can find him too.
With how long the dragons are they would have to worry a lot about theropod dinosaurs chomping down on it's neck.
Yep.
I can only say one thing about this video…
DRAGON DEEZ NU-
SHUT UP WOMA-
@ 😭 peak video nonetheless
13:14 wait wha…? Isn’t Gigantopitheus a giant ape closely in family tree to Orangutans? Than the Horse that adopted the Gorilla body plan known as Chalicotheres
Edit: my ears why… I accidentally thought you meant to say Gigantopitheus the last of the Chalicotheres.
20:47 Finally Skyrims most wanted match up (not really) as finally come to light screw the Dovahkiin we have a Dragon vs Dovahbear.
If dragon is real I'm about to make a five-star restaurant
You’d die before even hitting a dragon
@RandomMackem0069_Official nah i'd win
@ you’d be a 5 star meal and still get called bad
About the other Dragons:
My problem with them is that they are unnecessarily Hexapods.
The Sea Dragon, instead of having an extra pair of wings, its arms could perfectly be small wings converted into paddles.
The wings of the Forest Dragon are too small to even serve for gliding. Also, with the limited amount of fire breath, it would use it all up before cooking its food properly, burning it only superficially.
As for the Mountain Dragon, besides being Hexapod (and the patagium not reaching the tail), it lacks a feather coat to protect it from the cold and the forest would be a bad place to hunt, with so many trees together to spread the wings.
In this case, the African Savannah would fit better with its biology. In fact, in ancient bestiaries (and the legend of Dan Jorge) dragons were described as native to Ethiopia.
PS. Wow! Hyenas are like land Orcas.
I did not make them into hexapods, the documentary's excuse is a mutation caused dragons to consistently generate an extra set of limbs. Of course that's not realistic, but neither are the large reptiles breathing fire.
Food gives it more fuel for hydrogen which gets more fire. The cycle continues.
Given they're over a ton in weight and have a biological furnace in their bodies, they should be plenty warm. And they're from the mammoth steppe.
@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Whatever their origin, they didn't need extra limbs anyway.
Yes, but with the limited hydrogen they have to store, they couldn't cook enough their food.
Weighing a ton is too heavy to be able to fly (a Quetzalcoatlus weighed no more than 200 kg). And the gas bag is too small to help a mass of that size float.
In any case, even with their large size and metabolism, a down coat wouldn't be superfluous (a mammoth was also large and warm-blooded and still had a natural coat to prevent heat loss).
Could The creature of the black lagoon From the universal monsters Survive in Real life Prehistoric Earth ?
Perhaps
Weirdly enough I think he would not only survive but thrive.
That thing would get killed so fast
What if indominus fought the dragon?
That would be an epic face off to witness. I bet the Indominus Rex would be able to use its camouflage ability to ambush the prehistoric Dragon if the fight took place near a forest or a swamp.
The dragon's fire breath would certainly be a deadly weapon for our Untameble Queen
@arkprice79 how about “accurate rex” against the indominus?
@jimmythedoll9820 That really depends on the size of each foe
She'd tear it apart. Reminder the Indominus rex shrugged off minigun fire and half the explosion of an anti tank missile.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Didn’t she avoid the minigun though? And the rocket was a botched shot.
Toothless vs Junior (The Lost World Jurassic Park)
Fr?
Actually, we don’t know if cave Lions were solitary or not
Ecologically it seems possible, how else were cave hyenas bullying them out of hunting large prey?
@ until we find more research
If you're interested, I made a post on my Reddit account that you'll really like. It's the power of the Showa, Heisei, and Millenium Godzilla's based on what I originally believed to the truth.
realistically dragons would be the size of birds. A matter of fact tarasaurs might have been what inspired dragons. And are the closest thing that you're going to get to a dragon in real life.
Pterosaurs reached 20 feet tall and hundreds of pounds.
You forgot the Marine Dragon!
No he just has no ecological info
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 Oh?
How come the creators forgot to give the ecological information?
I am so sorry if this pissed you of, but if you were designing evolved goji what would he look like?
Larger head, red instead of pink, keeping the musculature, remove the unused features, decrease the oversaturation and glowing
Plot twist Dragons in reality are Dinosaurs that pepole so and imaged them with wings
Pretty much the case
@ pepole so dinosaurs imagination was not invented so they so big reptiles and put wings and stuff
Remeber thst knight story of Saint George & the dragon
In reality that was a Baryonyx poor thing did not meet a good end that’s where the story came from
Dinosaurs dead after the flood thanks to man
I’d assume it would take a large pack of hyenas to kill a dragon since it takes around 10 or more to take on one lion
I actually like this dragon it’s not op but it’s not really weak either
KoTM, the PS4 Kaiju Guides show that the Kaiju have their same origins and history as their movie counterparts.
Could I say that the PS4 Kaiju exist in an alternate timeline but would be as canon as their movie counterparts to argue that the PS4 Kaiju have the same scaling from their movie incarnations?
Somewhat but a number of things are missing.
@ like what?
Where's the marine one?
There’s no information about that one
Great video
Really did Not like the ai images though
Yeah, but it gets the job done alittle bit for context.
@ it’s still lazy
@PangaeaUltima-xu7hu okay.
3:05 Hatsune Miku
Who do you think who wins mv godzilla vs luffy?
They would be Hunted into Oblivion!
ah yes that documentary. genuinely made be believe dragons were real. how dumb i was.
Minor nitpick. 15:46 you said Machali killed a 4 meter mugger crocodile. The size of the mugger killed by Machali was never measured and only estimated by an eyewitness, which isn't really reliable. E.g, we have an eyewitness account of an average sized Nile crocodile killing a 1800 kg female black rhino, obv bs when you consider that even male black rhinos rarely reach this size, and since the mugger was never measured accurately, the 4m claim is no different.
And fyi, modern mugger crocos only grow abt 3m, so claiming Machali killed this monster specimen (a 4m mugger weighed 365 kg) is not really logical considering how rare it would be for Machali to find one, let alone fight and kill it. I'm not trying to downplay Machali here, she killed a croco (from the images and original video) larger than herself (It took 2.5 hours for the croco to die). I can send sources personally if you like.
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What we think are dragons never existed but there were dinosaurs, long before the world knew the word dinosaurs there were dragons and when dinosaur fossils were found then they were thought of as dragons and dinosaurs the word and knowledge did not come about until the 1800's.
That's true but isn't the purpose of this analysis.
If you a fan of this dragons a fantasy made real go over to the paleo zoo keeper association to their return to life
So basically Humans
crabs are actually superior to dragons
Monster Hunter disagrees
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812congratulations KOTM, you've got 5 000 subs. Well done
what would u say the largest dragon from fiction could exist is
That depends. Are we still keeping it airborne?
If so then we have quite the competition, like Ghidorah per say.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 how about 1 for airborne, land based and aquatic
@prayashgurung9320 Land based dragons could get pretty big. Lizards like Megalania got big, aquatic just look at mosasaurs and ichthyosaurs and aerial, probably smaller than big pterosaurs if we keep them heavily armed with weapons.
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 In each era who is stronger? King Ghidorah or Mechagodzilla?