Using A Cleaver For EDC ~ 2023 Strata Cleaver
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My favorite blade shape and handle design is the Canadian military belt knife. It won a design award and it's in the Smithsonian Institute. Years ago I bought the cold steel version. I liked it so much I bought numbers 1 to 4 of the real versions with wooden handles and leather sheaths. But I use the Coldsteel version in my kitchen everyday. Razor sharp, I just use a steel rod for honing. I got the #1 in a flat grind. It is the thinnest knife in my over 200 collection.
It is a great utility work blade. Especially for those who
work with wiring and electrical work. The flatter point helps prevent unwanted punctures. I carry a Bestech Cubis everyday for a utility knife. Something about the blade shape feels good in the hand. The cleaver blade serves a purpose but could be considered situation specific.
Your the third person who has brought up the electrical aspect. I never really saw a need when I did electrical work, but I get it 👍
@@gideonstactical utility blades have a very similar profile to cleavers, and are the most commonly used cutting utensil in the trade. Cleavers make perfect sense to me.
Thank you for your videos. You’re my favorite knife guy
Another great knife video review. I like cleaver style blades. They are very good for edc carry & work. I don’t know about other people but I’m not stabbing or piercing a lot of things with my knife. Most people are cutting/slicing materials or food. If people are worried about self defense with a lack of a point. Most knife fights or attacks are slices not penetration. I worked in a prison and most knife attacks were offenders slicing offenders and not piercing. So a cleaver style blade is a great choice for edc or heaven forbid you’d have to use it in a defensive situation.
I completely concur! Cleavers do have a point, it’s just more obtuse depending on the model. They are basically larger, Beefier sheepfoots. The replace a blade utility blades that are more used than any pocket knife in most trades have a very similar profile. Almost nobody needs a really pointy knife. I hunt, and even find a less pointy knife easier to use and less likely to bust a gut 🤢.
Was using the gerber flatiron as my edc for 3 years now I'm looking at this
It's the most practical and well-designed pocket-clever of the bunch I have seen in years! I would still modify its tip a bit, though, by grinding off some material to make it more "pointy". And of course: over travel stop and better materials options and bronze washers would make this folding clever knife more attractive to me personally. Great review, thumbs up!
Thanks so much!!
Totally agree, I purchased the Gerber version for 35.00 @ Walmart just to try. And I feel the same way, great for food prep and basic camp stuff, but not an edc for me.
I do love the thought of a fixed blade version for sure!!! Rock On.
I'm rockin' a reverse tanto cleaver style, identical to Krudo Knives' DAO.
I would love to have it in my mess kit for cooking, maybe even for a shave, although it is hard to shave with a straight razor.
Its definitely an acquired skill. Personally I find it relaxing. For those 5-10 minutes your shaving, your not thinking about any of life's issues. Its almost meditative.
@@charlessalmond7076 I bought a straight razor but I can't seem to get a good enough Edge on it even with stropping. I think the problem is cheap Steel. I'd like to find a place where I can buy a nice one do you know of any? I've been keeping my eye out at yard sales but so far no luck LOL
@@Doobie603 I don't. Mine was a gift. As much as I hate to say it, I would try online.
I like using Chinese kitchen cleavers and camp cleavers, but I always thought cleaver folders were a weird concept until I got a Tomahawk cleaver from Artisan Cutlery. Felt very balanced in hand and being a cleaver user the lack of a tip wasn't a problem for me. Mine is a bit heavy for EDC, but a good knife to keep in my drawer for easy access.
I carry a cleaver and it’s been my favorite edc knife
But no point for pokey pokey...only slashey slashey.....severly limits usefulness no???
@@anonymousf454 I don’t ever stab stuff. 🤔 There’s a small pointy part where the edge starts. If I need to poke through plastics I use that. I just switched over to a leatherman skeletool btw
@@jesussalazar9071 Oh....this has been pressed into a utility role. I was thinking more self defense for pokey pokey and slashey slashey
I just can't bring myself to actually buy a clever or even carry one. I need a blade that has a point on it for everything I do. I typically carry trailing point blades and clip points.
I feel Cleavers are meant to be a big and heavy chopper. Sublety is not in the design philosophy.
My Dad always carried a stockman pocket knife. But he said other than cleaning his fingernails, the sheepsfoot blade was the only blade he used.
I edc a fixed blade. And not a small one. I rotate the TOPS Brakimo and the Prather War Bowie. Every day.
For the last two years, my pocket knife of choice has been the Gerber Flatiron. It’s not expensive. And it’s tough as nails. Sharp enough to cut you just by looking at it.
I’ve carried a knife since I was 8 years old. That’s over 56 years. I’ve carried just about every kind of folder, from clip point, drop point, automatic, otf, opinel, balisong, hawkbill… you name it, I’ve carried it.
There is nothing wrong with the cleaver blade. If you can’t do 95% of your knife duties with a cleaver style blade, perhaps you should work on your skills a little more.
And wth is wrong with bell bottoms?!
Keep up with the knife polls Aaron, this is getting interesting. 👍🏼👍🏼
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Hey, one more thing, my favorite folding knife… is the Cold Steel Pocket Bushman.
The truth is, most people don’t need a knife with a super pointy tip. 99% of daily tasks (box opening and food prep) can be easily done with a cleaver. They are stronger, generally have taller grinds and therefore more slicy, and have a point (though more obtuse) that can get through almost anything something like a tanto can. Unless you are an assassin or tactical operative, you don’t need a knife with a pointy tip. Hell, as an avid hunter, I find them more convenient than the clip point gut busters your get with buck knives. Cleavers are essentially just larger sheepsfoot or wharncliffes, depending on the style. Utility knife blades have a very similar profile, and they are the most used cutting tool in the trade today. Very productive if you know how to cut with one. And fixed blade cleavers can be impromptu hatchets in a pinch.
I EDC the Mini Sheepdog from Kizer fairly often. Cleavers have a useable point, it's just more of a right angle instead of a more acute angle of a point. If you really need the pointier tip, then cleaver may not be for you, but I use mine just fine.
Missed the poll. I'm a big believer in the right knife for the right situation. There is no doubt that a clip point is more versatile - so a good choice if you're not sure what you're going to be doing that day. (Although I don't like those extreme swoop clip points.) For me cleavers (esp. big chunky cleavers) are just a bit more restricted due to the lack of point and (potentially) less sharpened edge. If forced to choose between clip & cleaver for an EDC blade then it's a clip point. FYI, of these two blades I choose neither - much better available elsewhere. Sharp blades all.
I guess I'm in the 31%. Though it's a little misleading because between the two if I was forced to only EDC a blade style it would include a blade optimized for more of a penetrating edge. That being said, I love cleaver style knives. One of my favorites is the Barber series from Berg Blades especially the damascus special edition.
My favorite knife is the civivi bullmastiff so I would say I like cleavers.
It's worth considering that some of the votes in your poll were probably driven by those 2 knives specifically because there are other reasonably popular cleaver style designs out there (*cough* sheepdog *cough*) that have both more belly and much more of a point to the tip making them more useful than the Kershaw design, which reminds me more of a straight razor than a cleaver.
The whole folding/EDC cleaver concept is completely lost on me. When I think of a cleaver, I think of a knife that has between a 4.5" and 6" blade, about 3/16ths thick, weighing about a pound-and-a-half or better, and designed to go crashing through animal bones and ligaments/tendons/etc. 🤷♂
Kershaw, if your listening, make the Strata clip point as a button lock, make the pocket clip opposite the button for tip down carry. Solid winner.
I like a cleaver blade for edc . I'd love to know what you were cooking with a nectarine and a red pepper interesting flavor combo lol
not many uses for a cleaver a traditional grind/profile is much more versatile
theyre just kinda neat sometimes 🤷🏻
I’m a big fan of the cleavers always have been the strata cleaver is in my mail box rn lol
I do so absolutely love cleaver blades. But I don't think I've ever EDCed one.
For sure
Close, but I prefer a little bit of a point, such as a sheepsfoot or Wharncliffe. The cleaver shape looks a little too much like a straight razor!
Oooo… that pepper looked good!😛
I mean when I have the money for it, I'll probably be carrying the Gerber Flatiron. I know its not a favored blade by some, etc but its the first cleaver i've come across and I've fallen in love with it.
I know I'm reaching back a way but can you do a video on the Buck Intrepid with the Tanto point? I have an older version from about 15 years ago. Please.
We will see 👍
I carry pocket cleavers fairly frequently. I find I don’t often miss a super pointy tip, and I am more than happy to sacrifice that for a tall thin slicey blade that outcuts most pokey knives I have.
What I find is funny is that non-knife people tend to have the opposite reaction to them than I would expect. I’ve found that these people react very negatively, and seem intimidated or scared by the cleavers whenever they see them. Whereas a more normal looking clip or drop point does not elicit much of a reaction.
Probably it’s just because it’s so different from what they expect, they think it’s more dangerous for some reason. I’ve had many people look at me with apprehension and say, “that’s a scary knife!” when holding something like a Flatiron.
I try to explain that it’s actually less “scary” because it doesn’t have a stabby point…but that doesn’t seem to change their minds!
I think that cleaver blade knives are very cool. And I would definitely EDC a cleaver blade pocket knife. I carry a Buck Knives 263 HILINE Cleaver blade Folding pocket knife.
I'd carry a cleaver blade folder as an edc knife, not just that one. There are a lot of other cleaver choices that have better blade geometry and cost to functionality rating.
Thanks Aaron, yeah it is a cool blade and maybe designated for, "Camp Kitchen" but would prefer a more tactical point for EDC. Not that I mind cleavers as I have and use one in the kitchen, and also have the Tops El Chete which is my main wood butchering tool.
the cleaver style blade is the only style I carry - Look at the Dr. Zed thats what I carry.
Most people in the community dont like the design for them its not practical to everyday use. I'll take a knife over a cleaver any day. I carry knives and CCL guns for self protection.
I honestly cant remember the last time i used my knives to cut any food that wasnt when i was camping, even then i still brought a proper chef knife to cut with, im not an stupid idiot where i would need to use my expensive knives to cut a few things and be like "see guys im camping and a wilderness survivor durp!" Im being realistic here man.
I use one, as kinda a safety knife with food. Need a knife like so for food
Awesome format. The same great blade review we love with some community input. Fun vid 👍
This particular “cleaver” reminds me more a straight razor like for old school shaving because the blade is so long.
Very helpful and thoughtful review. You’ve got good marketing sensibilities, and Kershaw would probably do well to go with your recommendations for a fixed handle cleaver.
Honestly if I’m carrying a cleaver blade it’s the Kizer Sheepdog. Chinese made, I know, but nothing else compares with my use and experience.
The thinness of the handles of the Strata knives can be a bit difficult for those of us with larger hands. Biggest problem I've experienced, though, has been with gripping the frame lock when trying to open the knife, causing a failure to open. I'd love to see fixed versions of all of these knives -- with thicker handles.
I missed the poll, but I would not EDC a clever. Back in the 90's I worked offshore in the Gulf of Mexico and carried a Buck marlinespike knife with a sheep foot blade, because most of my cutting needs were with rope as a rigger. That's as close as I got to a clever. Since then, working in trades on land, I stick to drop point. BTW, I'd love to see Buck or Case bring back a quality marlinespike knife
i have a QSP Penguin i recently purchased it's a sheep foot blade D2 steel i like it a lot
The cleaver blade will last you the longest. So much sharpening life, the lock will probably wear out first.
If I want a cleaver, I want it to weigh a few pounds and hack through heavy cuts of meat and bone, like a shoulder roast or ribs. Otherwise, I’m good not carrying one.
Surprised it's as high as 31%
It doesn't bother me a bit. I've carried cleaver quite a bit. I despise the term "edc" because face it very few of us carry the same knife every day. I actually plan on getting the Strata ASAP.
Where does a sheep's foot stop and a cleaver start? I'm in the UK, which isn't particularly knife friendly and a feel more comfortable carrying a sheep's foot, simply because it's not as pointy.
I would purchase the Strata clever (even for a few bucks more) if it had the same style as my Strata XL. Without the copper accents on this knife, I would spend this money on inexpensive fixed blade beater to use in the brushy parts of my property.
How do you open it so easily. I have this blade and it doesn’t open easily consistently. I want it to be smoother and open more consistently
G'day Aaron, the whole range has very stick like handles, .... not sure what that's about.
Apart from the obvious food prep application, this one reminds me of a cut throat razor, ....... a bit of grooming on the go perhaps ; ) and as a fellow ex-sparkie, not dissimilar to designs specifically produced for the wire jerker, and furthermore, nautical folders have always been, and still are, sheepsfoot/clever tips, (though in fairness generally without much of a belly, if any). So if you have the need ..... fill your boots, there's a long history there and a range of very good reasons not to use a pokey fella. In the fixy arena; everything from a butchers cleaver, to parangs, to a skrarma or other seax type design, one could argue a hatchet/axe, even a saw, falls in the same category, ...... i.e. clearly not stabbing or boring tools. Personally, I'll always have at least one "piercer" on me, (or at least within reach), and not necessarily for defence, just too useful to do without IMO. Cheers Duke.
They're only good for processing Zombies not taking them out.
Hahah haha 😂
I missed that poll somehow, but give me a cleaver and a pair of bellbottoms!👍🤣
When are you getting your hands on the Microtech MSI for review?
I like cleavers for chopping duties. Which is what the design is useful for. I'm not going to be chopping with a folder with a 3"-4" blade. And anything smaller than that like the CRKT Minimalist makes no sense to me personally. Just limits the applications of the knife. That being said, a wharncliffe is one of my favorite designs. Has the pro's of a cleaver, while still having a point. Just makes it more useful IMO. I think a cleaver blade on an EDC knife is more of a novelty tjan anything. Which is perfectly fine.
Great video !! You should do more voting polls
Ehh i thought it was a new style straight razor its good for what its good for some times no point does things the pointed knives have issues with
"A cleaver" as a blade shape is meant to do a very specific job. Namely....cleaving. A pocket knife just doesnt have the size & weight to do the job its meant to do. That's my 2 cents anyway.
I 💯 agreee
I’m a drop point boy every time.
Looks like my grandfather’s straight razor
0’ops...when I got the hint it was a “Cleaver” I breezed right by...
I'm a drop point spear point and clip point guy! No cleavers ! I'd rather have a utility blade like a tough lite or kiridashi from CS.
Love your non biased opinions on gear but why would anyone use a folder to chop
Love this knife but damn it hurts me to buy a Chinese made knife.
I own a couple of warncliff (did it i spell it right lol) and they do similar job so cleaver won't be needed for me
Hahah you probably got it right!! 😅
@@gideonstactical 🤣😂
Too expensive for that type of blade for me. I wouldn't use it that much to justify the cost. The Schrade Ultra glide cleaver in the 15 dollar price point is better suited for my needs.
Let's face it. Most cleaver pocketknives are closer to being folding santoku.
I have many, knives both folding and fixed blade, I don’t own a single cleaver. I never bought into the cleaver faze that everyone was raving about. Cleavers aren’t versatile enough for pocket carry. Of course that’s only my opinion.
I'd carry a cleaver but I'd rather carry something with a tip cause it's more useful
The cleaver blade shape on a folder is useless
Just remember to get a steel that does not contain cobalt. i.e. VG-10… stop using materials that contain toxic metals for food prep.
You said it s trendy that s all Remember the old grand pa razor too much
I could see a XXL sized Cold Steel Cleaver maybe. Triad lock with a long and deep enough of a blade I’m not smacking my knuckles all the time. Cleaver’s are choppers to me...and I’m a poke, prod, & pry kinda guy when it comes to EDC.
Early woohoo
I don’t understand why anyone would want a folder for food prep. They are too hard to keep clean, and who wants to use a gunky knife on their food?
I like cleavers... I don't like that particular cleaver
Only thing i would use this type of knife is to shave my beard with. Absolutely zero other function other then that.
In the first 1 min I heard you say D2. Wrote this comment and stopped watching.
Cleaver designs are not my thing & Kershaw/ZT/KAI have none existent international customer service so their products are a no go.
They outright refused to honor their warranty.
That seems to be becoming a trend with US companies btw.
Yep I can't stand those cleaver blades
Just cant get around that handle
You have another scammer telling people they won a giveaway
Thank u
69% 😏
😂 yep
Carrying a folding cleaver is for role players who wannabe Sweeney todd
Care to try one of my meat pies good sir?
@@498drifter yes I'd like to try the meat pie. Louisiana when I lived there there were some really really to die for meat pies. Damn i miss those!
Umm no , some them are cool from a collector stand point, buuutt...definitely not gonna be my EDC
4 words: Nope, not for me
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Tee hee 69
Ugly looking huge knives.
Yuck
I'm sure it has its place, just not gonna be in my pocket. Not a fan of the look of it or the handle. I'm sure functionality is fine. Hard pass
It's not really the cleavers fault I choose a clip point over almost anything 95% of the time