The fact that you already had Cat5e ran for the phones made this 1000x easier and was not really a phone line to ethernet conversion since technically the house was already running ethernet. A conversion would have been replacing the RJ11 (4 wire) runs with RJ45 (8 wire) runs.
You're right it was very convenient. 🙂 The only way to 'convert' the lines is if an 8 wire was used for a phone connection, otherwise it would be a 'replacement' by having to pull more wire. 👍
Very interesting. Looks really professional, even without the velcro. You sure changed a spaghetti bunch of wires into a small home network rack. Incredible work -- very good video.
You should have a cleaner cut on the outer jacket. Also the outer jacket should go inside the rj45 end further to where the crimp tool crimps it. There is a clear piece of the connector that goes in to grab the cable to prevent pulling it out easily. Leaving it out that far means only the copper pins are holding the inner pairs.
Technically you can use T568A as well as the electrical signalling actually doesn't care which color the particular wire has... as long as you wire it 1-1 2-2 3-3 4-4 5-5 6-6 7-7 8-8 as long as you wire them 1:1... But you are recommended to follow T568 or T568A espacially if annother Person will take over one day...
The best thing my home builders did was to use conduits for the cat5 cables all thru the home. It made fishing new wires so much easier. Nowadays you just see cheap builders staple cables to the 2x4s.
Indeed. Punching a hole in that patch dry wall and routing the Ethernet cables through would also made things cleaner. Good job though. BTW why didn't you crimp an Ethernet jack to replace the old phone connectors?
You're lucky they all had a common termination point. Here, the electrition daisy-chained all the phone jacks to save on cost. It didn't stop me from wiring the place but I like saving where possible.
Hell yea, big fan of the FiOS and rack setup. I’d suggest a patch panel, and then like 6 inch Ethernet cables, much cleaner. I wouldn’t worry about explaining how to crimp Ethernet or the punch down tools. I tried to make a video on that stuff but there’s so many other good videos people can reference to. No offense tho, really like the vid. I love seeing homes converted from phone to ethernet.
good point on many other good videos out there on how to punch down/crimp things. I'm still new to this whole youtube thing. Mainly just filming the stuff I'm working on around my house/garage, and hope that others find them useful :)
B is the standard, but as long as each end of the run is terminated correctly (A to A, or B to B) you could mix and match type AA and BB cables as much as your hearts content. Just don't make a crossover cable by accident. They act funny unless your using it for specific uses. (Crossover cable is type A to B).
For all the people saying "oooooh you should have done this or that" hey it's his network and if he believes it is suboptimal he will do something about it. As for patch panels, I don't like them in homes unless there are more than 6 runs. 6 or under, you can just do a surface mount box and put keystone jacks in it.
If there was actually a phone plugged in the Cat5E jack for any length of time the outer pins would be bent or pushed up from the phone plug and would be loose or not make contact with a computer plug. I have seen that a few times.
Nice video. Do you know if every house has a system that gathers all wires in one place like the one in your basement? (Not sure what it is called) My new home was built in 1990s and I am trying to convert all landlines(telephone lines) to something like this. But I am having a hard time finding it.
if you have multiple phone lines going to different rooms throughout the house, the will terminate in a central location to be "punched down." This is called the Demarcation point (Demarc for short). Typically the best way to find this area is to see where the phone/internet service comes in to the house, there should be a box there for your cable/internet/phone lines. Depending on when your home was built in the 90s you may or may not have cat5 runs (not 5e b/c that wasn't released until 2000), if you are lucky enough to have cat5 you will still be limited to 100mbps speeds or worse because that was the max rating back then. thanks for watching, good luck
You can actually run ethernet over coax cable. It's called MOCA, Multimedia Over CAble. It great for running ethernet to outbuildings like a shed or unattached garage.
what I did was get the cat6 connector put on each end and then one at a time plug it in to my router. then when room to room to see which outlet worked and what didn't - process of elimination from there
@@PlatoonGarage I'm not criticising I think you did a great job with what you had. I just mentioned the B standard for any of your viewers who maybe just starting out with a career in network engineering. Keep up the great vids.
@@bentheguru4986 .. I'd make the installer re-terminate if they used T568A especially if they failed to ask or recommend. Mixing T568A and T568B isn't good. Use T568B.
@@bentheguru4986 .. First, T568B is the standard and has been for years. Most uses of T568A were from old CAT-5e for telephone and if you're okay with mixing T568A and T568B then go for it. However, for myself extending or mix-matching T568A with T568B patch cabling, routers, switches, extensions is a problem waiting to happen. Then spending hours to backtrack or finding a crossover cable to solve a self-inflicted problem to me .. not so smart.
@@PlatoonGarage you won’t have any issues with A or B if connected correctly What I was trying to say In USA residential we use type B Commercial and Government buildings use type A
Oh you poor thing, you live in a ten year old house and your home runs have old connectors on them. :) Anyone in an old house with plaster walls would love to have your problems!
@@PlatoonGarage Heh. I lived in a 1920's house for years ... plaster walls with wire lath ... now I live in a house built in 1991. Wiring is soooooooo much easier!
The fact that you already had Cat5e ran for the phones made this 1000x easier and was not really a phone line to ethernet conversion since technically the house was already running ethernet. A conversion would have been replacing the RJ11 (4 wire) runs with RJ45 (8 wire) runs.
You're right it was very convenient. 🙂
The only way to 'convert' the lines is if an 8 wire was used for a phone connection, otherwise it would be a 'replacement' by having to pull more wire. 👍
Very interesting. Looks really professional, even without the velcro. You sure changed a spaghetti bunch of wires into a small home network rack. Incredible work -- very good video.
Thank you. appreciate the kind words. I've since added velcro an my OCD is satisfied. :)
You should have a cleaner cut on the outer jacket. Also the outer jacket should go inside the rj45 end further to where the crimp tool crimps it. There is a clear piece of the connector that goes in to grab the cable to prevent pulling it out easily. Leaving it out that far means only the copper pins are holding the inner pairs.
Try the pass through RJ45 connectors and use one standard T568B. Most patch cables are T568B and mix matching is an unnecessary problem.
Technically you can use T568A as well as the electrical signalling actually doesn't care which color the particular wire has... as long as you wire it 1-1 2-2 3-3 4-4 5-5 6-6 7-7 8-8 as long as you wire them 1:1... But you are recommended to follow T568 or T568A espacially if annother Person will take over one day...
The best thing my home builders did was to use conduits for the cat5 cables all thru the home. It made fishing new wires so much easier. Nowadays you just see cheap builders staple cables to the 2x4s.
Staples on cat5 and above is a no-no.
Zip ties on cat6 and above is a no-no.
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One thing you may wanna upgrade to in the future is a patch panel instead of having all the wires go straight into the switch
Thanks for the comment, I will keep that in mind when the next time comes to do some more updating :)
Indeed. Punching a hole in that patch dry wall and routing the Ethernet cables through would also made things cleaner.
Good job though.
BTW why didn't you crimp an Ethernet jack to replace the old phone connectors?
You're lucky they all had a common termination point. Here, the electrition daisy-chained all the phone jacks to save on cost. It didn't stop me from wiring the place but I like saving where possible.
that is terrible luck
@@PlatoonGarage seems they did that here
or at least I have no clue where any of the cables terminate lol
@@BenCos2018 definitely inconvenient
@@PlatoonGarage yep
Now I have the fun of splicing them all in the loft I think
Hell yea, big fan of the FiOS and rack setup. I’d suggest a patch panel, and then like 6 inch Ethernet cables, much cleaner.
I wouldn’t worry about explaining how to crimp Ethernet or the punch down tools. I tried to make a video on that stuff but there’s so many other good videos people can reference to. No offense tho, really like the vid. I love seeing homes converted from phone to ethernet.
good point on many other good videos out there on how to punch down/crimp things. I'm still new to this whole youtube thing. Mainly just filming the stuff I'm working on around my house/garage, and hope that others find them useful :)
T-568B is pretty much standard. All the patch cords you buy are wired in B diagram. But overall good job.
Thanks
B is the standard, but as long as each end of the run is terminated correctly (A to A, or B to B) you could mix and match type AA and BB cables as much as your hearts content. Just don't make a crossover cable by accident. They act funny unless your using it for specific uses. (Crossover cable is type A to B).
For all the people saying "oooooh you should have done this or that" hey it's his network and if he believes it is suboptimal he will do something about it. As for patch panels, I don't like them in homes unless there are more than 6 runs. 6 or under, you can just do a surface mount box and put keystone jacks in it.
If there was actually a phone plugged in the Cat5E jack for any length of time the outer pins would be bent or pushed up from the phone plug and would be loose or not make contact with a computer plug. I have seen that a few times.
good to know, we haven't had a home phone in a decade thankfully
Very nice. Unfortunately for me my house was built in 1973 so no cat cable ran for me. I managed to get cat 6 ran to all the rooms tho.
well done! it's nice to have the option available for sure
Thank you for your time and effort.
Nice! A little jealous that I do not have the space to either mount a rack, or even to flat pack a rack. But, yours looks nice.
Thanks, I'm definitely fortunate to have this area in my basement to set this rack up
Nice video. Do you know if every house has a system that gathers all wires in one place like the one in your basement? (Not sure what it is called) My new home was built in 1990s and I am trying to convert all landlines(telephone lines) to something like this. But I am having a hard time finding it.
if you have multiple phone lines going to different rooms throughout the house, the will terminate in a central location to be "punched down." This is called the Demarcation point (Demarc for short).
Typically the best way to find this area is to see where the phone/internet service comes in to the house, there should be a box there for your cable/internet/phone lines.
Depending on when your home was built in the 90s you may or may not have cat5 runs (not 5e b/c that wasn't released until 2000), if you are lucky enough to have cat5 you will still be limited to 100mbps speeds or worse because that was the max rating back then.
thanks for watching, good luck
@@PlatoonGarage thank you so much for the detailed explanation.
So as far as taking the connectors from the garage. You plugged a switch into the modem then hooked up the new rj45s into that?
Yes switch plugs into modem and each port on the switch serves up traffic
You can actually run ethernet over coax cable. It's called MOCA, Multimedia Over CAble. It great for running ethernet to outbuildings like a shed or unattached garage.
CA stands for "coaxial"
How did you trace the yellow ethernet cables to each room? I have a similar setup that I would like to get organized.
what I did was get the cat6 connector put on each end and then one at a time plug it in to my router. then when room to room to see which outlet worked and what didn't - process of elimination from there
@@PlatoonGarage Thanks!! Awesome videos btw..
Nice work
I'm a network installer The B standard IS the standard. But like JC B says overall good job.
I'm definitely not a professional, Thanks for the feedback :)
@@PlatoonGarage I'm not criticising I think you did a great job with what you had. I just mentioned the B standard for any of your viewers who maybe just starting out with a career in network engineering. Keep up the great vids.
cheers!
@@bentheguru4986 .. I'd make the installer re-terminate if they used T568A especially if they failed to ask or recommend. Mixing T568A and T568B isn't good. Use T568B.
@@bentheguru4986 .. First, T568B is the standard and has been for years.
Most uses of T568A were from old CAT-5e for telephone and if you're okay with mixing T568A and T568B then go for it. However, for myself extending or mix-matching T568A with T568B patch cabling, routers, switches, extensions is a problem waiting to happen. Then spending hours to backtrack or finding a crossover cable to solve a self-inflicted problem to me .. not so smart.
nice video
thank you
loved the Vid!!
glad you liked it
I have mental problems. All I do is watch people network upgrades on UA-cam all day. :)
definitely worse things to watch on the internet all day. :)
If your live in USA you should do version B for internet
If you do A you will have issue on your hands
Been using A at gig speeds, zero issues. 👍
@@PlatoonGarage you won’t have any issues with A or B if connected correctly
What I was trying to say
In USA residential we use type B
Commercial and Government buildings use type A
@@mikimiki195 gotcha, yeah as long as both ends are same it works
8:20, out of sight, out of mind,.... unless you discover it 13 years later
Ha! I was so surprised when I found that in the wall
Oh you poor thing, you live in a ten year old house and your home runs have old connectors on them. :) Anyone in an old house with plaster walls would love to have your problems!
dude plaster walls give me nightmares! :)
@@PlatoonGarage Heh. I lived in a 1920's house for years ... plaster walls with wire lath ... now I live in a house built in 1991. Wiring is soooooooo much easier!
B is the current standard.
Do I need to pay an ISP
If you want internet service you do, not for them to change cabling in your house