@@guacamolegeneral1060 depends how you count. strickly speaking 5 times, yes. but twice is was rather a "reshuffling" during the term period..so in the context here i would say 3 times is still ok :)...more importantly it was more than two times and not only with ÖVP
Well European governments have little manouver room when it comes to the topic at hand, refugees and asylum seekers. The Austrian stance was for a long time a very strict one and has not become any less in recent years. But it acts in the framework of international and national law, especially the European Convention on Human Rights and Geneva Convention. The former is a directly applicable part of the Austrian constitution which cannot be changed by the Austrian legislator but would have to be changed by all the signatory countries. That is also why the FPÖ did not increase the number of repatriations during their term in office from 2017 to 2019.
how many fucking times is this gonna be repeated? they havent been ignoring migration for the last 6 years. All center right, liberal and christian democrat parties even with some left leaning parties have become openly anti migration. But alas, the average FPO/AFD/PVV voter is so low information that they wouldnt even find this out in the first place.
I don't know if it's funny or sad the videos like this still ask the "Why?" question. The writing is on the wall. It was there for almost a decade now. It's now written with burning letters.
A mix of factors including austerity, wealth disparity, chronic underinvestment in young people's futures and the successful scapegoating of very vulnerable people by opportunistic xenophobes, yes.
@@Talisguy People love scapegoating immigrants and refugees, which makes it so easy for wealthy people to escape accountability. Funny (well, sad) thing is that it's not even exclusive to western countries. Even in third world countries: for example, in my home country of Pakistan, people are blaming Afghans for straining the economy. Like, sure buddy, as if Pakistan will suddenly become a first-world country without the Afghans. The horrific human rights crime the government of Pakistan did recently to kick many of them out has solved very little of our actual problems, and I guarantee most of Europe's problems will remain even if they reduce immigration. Nothing wrong with controlling immigration, but far-right extremism pretending that immigration is the core problem is misguided.
@@anonyKinetic It's not purely scapegoating though, Germany in 2021, asylum seekers made up 13.1% of all sexual assault suspects, despite comprising only 2.5% of the population (one statistic shown around).
@@advers790yeah obviously the war on christmas is a big issue, and the far right is going to solve it all by deportating migrants and cutting all help to them, this way the people that are already there will feel even more integrated and everything is going to be fine
Not sure if its intentionally missleading or poorly researched, but there are multiple errors in the video, e.g. at 1:36 : the FPO has been in governement more then twice. They also formed a coaltion with the SPO in 1983. A couple of sentences later the narrator says the FPO has been a marginal opposition party for decades before they shifted to the right in the 80s. Thats wrong again, they were actually in governement when Haider took over leadership.
The moderate and left wing parties need to change their stances on immigration at this point, regardless of whether people on the left think its an issue, its clearly a big enough issue that its swinging elections across Europe. This is Russia's main play to survive its current situation in Ukraine, we need to stop it before the effects become irreversible. Sitting around calling people who have been swayed by anti-immigration rhetoric racists isnt serving us anymore.
This right there is why "you" have to go from power. You just recognized that people that experience and expose the problems of mass migration are not racist. It was just an establishment rhetoric to demonize a part of the population and in the mean time destroying thousands upon thousands of lives. You have no morals, you are despic*ble.
this is emperically incorrect. We have ample evidence form studies that come to the conclusion that the opposite is true. Because once the center and center-left party engage in a harsher stance on migration, the far right is in reality gaining in votes long term.
Up 13% since last election and is now the biggest one, and AS ALWAYS.. the reaction from the status quo parties is not "let's look at why voters are upset and work on those issues together", but rather "let's work together to lock them out from any sort of power, making the population even more angry in the long run". Always the exact same circle in every single European country where the right-wing party has skyrocketed. It's pathetic.
You don’t understand parliamentarianism. It’s not uncommon at all that parties with 30-40% of seats to be left without any government ministers or policy influence. It happens all the time with major center right and center left parties when the opposition coalitions has a majority. That’s how it works and it’s not undemocratic. FPÖ is for a Western European “far right” party very radical in terms of Pro Russia, Corrupt, Anti EU, anti-constitutional, extremist views/“banter” and anti immigration stance. Much more so than for example PVV in The Netherlands, FDL in Italy, SD and FrP in Sweden/Norway or Reform in the UK. Which makes FPÖ much more difficult to have in government due to safety risks and incompatible policies/values. Not to mention that every FPÖ coalition in history has resulted in collapse and scandals. No wonder the other parties doesn’t want to cooperate. Even if I agree it’s a nessicary evil for the established parties to drastically restrict immigration to disarm the FPÖ’s main voting magnet.
The FPÖ puts the most amount of money into propaganda, they primarily work with populistic rethoric - a playbook that has been proven to work over time. The issues created are fictitious or at least over-emphasized. It's not rooted in reality. There is nothing to look into - their voters are victims of (by now) well-known manipulation tactics to believe in a false enemy. It's all their rethoric revolves around - a heterogenous force (which always happens to be a rather powerless minority) that destroys everything we hold dear. The FPÖ is a dangerous party, and it's issues can only be adressed by getting them away from power as much as possible. Otherwise, they will keep poisoning the well. The root-cause can only be effectively adressed by severely limiting freedom of expression, and I think we all know that's not going to happen, for very good reasons.
@@Fluxwuxwith such reply you are literally confirming what he has written over there. Status quo, specially left/socialists/greens are disappearing by 2030 at this point
@@marcpourecio I simply explained that parties that has proved that they can’t govern in the past and has huge problems with corruption and extremist views (that makes them impossible to work with) doesn’t have a god given right to be a part of government when they have 29% of the vote (average center right/left party voter share in opposition all over Europe). Call that status quo all you want, but it’s not something weird or illogical - especially when grand coalitions have been a thing in European politics in all of modern history. And I’m pretty sure FPÖ will do something insane this term as well that makes them plummet down to 15-20% in the next election, which is basically a rule of nature now. Not to mention that far right parties in Europe usually have a ceiling at about 30%. So no, the left will not disappear by 2030 😅 Do you honestly think Austria must become full Orban, pro Russian, climate deniers, leave the EU and break every constitutional and international law applied on migration (to “send them all back”) and accept their corruption or security risks as ministers just because FPÖ got 29%? What about the 71% of Austrians that didn’t vote FPÖ? Sure I think, the other big parties must (and most likely will) adapt to the concerns of FPÖ voters on issues like migration, crime, cost of living etc in order to win back votes and take the problems more seriously now. But that doesn’t mean a FPÖ lead government, or even ministers.
I've got only one point of correction: Karl Nehammer didn't rule out a government with Kickl as Chancellor, but with Kickl at the head of the FPÖ. It's kind of different?
No he ruled out Kickl being in any important role at all. Let's see if he keeps his promise but he did rule out Kickl as Chancellor or any minister at all
@@erenaslan5316I can't see the ÖVP in a coalition as a junior partner. Senior partner, instantly, but I doubt they'll be willing to give up the chancellor position to FPÖ
@@juannaym8488 yeah same, their ego is too big lol but yeah I really hope that will happen, I really REALLY do not want the self declared 'Volkskanzler' and that party to be in power
@@jackdunn3235 very important indeed, i will do my part But for the whole country not possible/feasible if not combined with a migration-stop/remigration
Any coalition that does not include the FPÖ will, in the long run favor the FPÖ. Such narrow coalitions will make the country hard to govern, giving ammo to the FPÖ that on the next election can thus focus on how ineffective the other parties were. What I really do not understand, with all polls in Austria showing that immigration is a major concern to the majority of Austrians, why don't the other parties don't just revise their stance on it according to the people's will? The same goes for Germany.
Because it is not like the parties in Austria dont talk about immigration, the ÖVP actually has a pretty hard stance on immigration, comparing their stance 10 years ago, also the other parties talk differently and actually moved more into the right, concerning this topic. But they also show that it isnt that easy to just say that all immigrants are bad. So when someone steps up and tells mostly formally less-educated people that dont really want to invest their time to research history and politics that everything is the immigrants fault, the people may even WANT to believe it, as in this case, they would not be held responsible for mistakes they made or bad luck they had in their past. (This should not be a personal attack on these people, the votes show that less formally educated people tend to vote more for the FPÖ) Also, all "solutions" of the FPÖ concerning immigration actually are just plain dumb, like "we dont let anybody in anymore" which violates Human Rights, the Austrian constitution, geneva convention, EU-laws and so on. What is pretty funny is that, every voter that really fears immigration (even though statistics show that at least economically immigrants are almost always a net-positive - just look at the USA) would be better off voting the ÖVP, as their stances would actually be implementable. And the funniest, the "working class people" that now tend to vote for the FPÖ, actually would suffer the most under a FPÖ-ÖVP coalition (which is the only possibility where their voted party would be in charge), because all economic and social policies by these parties would help the upper 10% (approximately of course). But why take an interest in politics when someone gives you free beer and tells you that everything is another persons fault... And yeah we still have around 10% naz*s in this country that will vote for the party no matter what happens, as shown after Ibiza. And maybe one last thing, you cant just "revise" your stance on immigration if you have something like a moral code. This party (FPÖ) talks about pushing people back into countries where they suffered for many years under sometimes cruel dictators or fundamentalist idiots, which would statistically kill them with a high probability, which I at least find a bit wrong...
The other parties do and already have changed their positions, but, as always, the original profits the most out of it. Also, while immigration is a major concern, people generally don't really care about work or outcomes, they just want to hear racist bullshit to feel safe. Why I'm sure of that? Kickl was minister of inner affairs, during the last ÖVP-FPÖ-coalition. Under his reign, the most refugees arrived in Austria - However, people rather ignore that, because he's talking like a screaming toddler in kindergarden, much to the liking of a lot of people.
Some did though. The ÖVP immigration stance is very close to the FPÖ stance. Most differences are constitutional issues (stuff the FPÖ promises but can't deliver without a government that has two thirds of the seats in parliament). The people just don't believe them, because it's the FPÖ's main topic since the 1990s.
The fact that 29% of austrians, vote for a party that was founded by THREE former NSDAP members one of them being a high ranking SS general and politician in the brown house is VERY concerning.
hatred for diversity and minorities, desire to live in an ethnostate, closed off from the rest of the world, over-attachment for traditions and religion, desire for a strongman, a leader who puts things back in their place and leads the nation back to it's former glory. "germany for the germans", "make america great again", "god, homeland, family" and all that 1930s crap. usually there's a good dose of militarism and distrust in international institutions, laws and diplomacy too.
@@dimon3098 That's also the problem, is that people are uneducated and just being spoon-fed whatever narrative the media wants to push. The song in question dates back to 1814, long before Hitler, and has absolutely nothing to do with Nazism. The Nazis sang Christmas songs, drove Volkswagens and listened to Bach, Beethoven & Mozart too, should those be cancelled as well?
The FPÖ has actually been a partner in a coalition government three times. The first time was from 1983-1986 as junior partner in an SPÖ led coalition under chancellors Sinowatz and Vranitzky.
I'm so fucking done with my country. 5 years of systematic dismantling of social security and services incoming. Thank god for Schengen. I'm done. I'm out.
Though I agree with your prediction, that the next 5 years will not change our country to the better, I disagree that the dismantling of social security and services will be so bad, that it will justify moving to another country. (Where will you go? Germany? France? Hungry?) I would consider the main risk of a ÖVP-FPÖ-coalition, that it will "clean up" the corruption prosecution like they did with the constitution protection during their last time, and finally dismantle independence of justice. Basically a "project 2025" in small...
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Very nice, go to california or chicago and enjoy diversity while we enjoy a right wing government
My bet is a Dutch or Swedish government solution. With either a ÖVP or Technocrat Chancellor and FPÖ ministers, alongside several key FPÖ policies, but with some compromises, being implemented as compensation for missing the chancellor position (Dutch). Or a ÖVP one party minority government with a sort of strict written policy agreement with the FPÖ and tight cooperation, but no FPÖ ministers in government. But as compromise the FPÖ gets essentially complete control over migration policy and some other issues, but ÖVP gets to decide most other things like foreign policy, economic policy etc (Swedish)
The problem is that the ÖVP also wants to forsake our neutrality drag Austria into NATO and is not prepared to confront its mistakes during the Cor__a years.
Non of those are very likely in the Austrian system as the Federal President would probably not go with any of those solutions. The most likely option even with the slim margin is a ÖVP/SPÖ government, with a more unlikely option of a ÖVP/SPÖ/NEOS triple coalition. The second possible option is a FPÖ/ÖVP government, which at the moment seems very unlikely unless one of the two parties switches their leader and the ÖVP does a 180° u-turn on its position and the Federal President does one too. He has to this point ruled out to appoint the FPÖ to a government due to their anti EU and anti human rights positions. A technocratic government is very unlikely, a ÖVP minority government is all but impossible - who should back that up? The FPÖ defininitly not, the SPÖ certainly not as well. BTW the whole fuss about migration policies. Austria already has very strict rules there, scraping the limits of what the European Convention on human rights allows. The FPÖ already had control of the Interior ministry and that policy area, the number of refugees arriving did not decrease and the number of repatriations did not increase. It is all a bunch of BS promises, that is not founded in anything the Austrian constiution would allow. So unless the FPÖ goes full dictatorship and flies in Russian troops to back themselves up, there wont be any significant changes to the way Austria treats migrants.
@@stefanmaier1853 stop telling lies, the numbers DID drop during Kickl's very short term as interior minister, and our rules are basically we allow anyone and his dog to claim asylum status as soon as they set foot on our soil. Kickl did start to reform the law and the court did NOT decide all of the proposals were in breach of the ECHR or our constitution, only some were, and it was expected the proposal could be sufficiently tweaked to conform. Then of course Kurz and our active mummy in the Hofburg decided to break up the coalition, so. The same as what the FPÖ proposes has already done the trick in Denmark (ruled by sensible Socialists, not dreamers like the Babler SPÖ), Sweden and Holland. And let us not even mention the Visegrad states.
Ö is NOT O. It is a completely different sound. It is like the I in "Bird" or "Firth" or sometimes like the u in "Furry" depending on where it is placed in a word.
As secretary of the interior, Hickl literally had security services raided in order to garner intell on their observations of right wing extremist groups. This guy is terrifying.
@@leGUIGUI Not really, a lot of the parties labelled as far right are not, they're usually moderate parties, like the NF, FPO, AFD, SD etc etc. These parties are moderate compared to most on far right
Until we find a solution to the worldwide wealth inequality (which also means that we need to stop getting investment income from former colonial nations which far exceeds "development help"), the motivation to migrate will only increase. But the reason why migration will end democracy is not because we cannot afford to integrate refugees or refugees leading to exploding criminality, but instead because the capitalists suck our economy dry, and the rightwing parties are successfully redirecting the blame, because they are supported by the anti-left capitalists (they prefer to be oligarchs in fascism instead of being unneeded in socialism). There are obstacles with democracys ending migration: Asylum is a human right, and therefore at least for this part you are not able to remove it, without damaging your constitutional state which we consider to be part of "spirit of democracy". And yes, that includes "push backs". Also there are many people who you cannot "deport", if they illegaly travel to your country: no nationality (or they are successfull to hide it), source country does not accept them,... I would assume a country trying the "final solution" for this problem to not be considered a democracy any more...
Somehow people are shocked that if you ignore the problems caused by migration that the people move to the people talking about the problems... yeah, very big brain
It's absolutely crazy that people just ignore history. Anyone who gives any semblance of a shit should be very concerned about and very opposed to the rise of the far right.
Correction: The FPÖ was already in a ruling coalition before 2000 with the SPÖ from 1983 to 1987. Also, the name of the party NEOS is usually not pronounced as an acronym but as plural "the neos".
@@radosawmarkowski5379 EU and Europe aren't the same thing. And it was EU that set itself against Russia, not the other way around. Of course that neutrality and national sovereignty must feel very anti-EU to you.
@@JeffPar50 Being fully neutral means ignoring Russia's wars and just making business as usual, aka no sanctions. Of course, neutrality must feel pro-Russian to you.
The party wants to: -Completely halt asylum migration, violating multiple international treaties -Deport immigrants already living in the country The party also openly supports Russia, a dictatorial terrorist state, and wants to cut all aid to Ukraine. The party is also massively corrupt, which was explained in this video I wouldnt considers these things "center right"
As an Austrian myself i dont like this party (far-right) at all. They where the strongest in this election, but they probably wont be even in the government, because they dont have 50 percent. 70% of Austria is against them and that is good. If some Americans would say now it is unfair that the strongest party will not be part of goverment, then you are wrong because thats not how parlamentary elections work over here.
True! There are countless examples of all sorts of parties (usually centrist establishment parties) at 30+% of the vote that get zero government/policy influence because the opposition coalition is bigger in modern European political history. That’s just how parliamentarianism works.
@@FabianAndra-pd6ks Yet, the Greens who only a minority ever supported are often included in a coalition and represented, whereas a majority is often excluded. Doesn’t sound right to me.
Bullshit, not voting for them !=against them, by that reasoning 70% of Austria is against the ÖVP and SPÖ. In reality, a potential blue black government has the biggest approval rating in Austria.
70% are not against them, I'm fairly certain most of the 26% who voted ÖVP would rather have a coalition between the ÖVP and the FPÖ instead of one between ÖVP, the SPÖ and some small party like the Greens or the Neos. That the Nehammer faction managed to dig itself into the hole of "not with Kickl" is another matter.
because it's more right-wing than the current right-wing party. What ? You want to call FPO centre right and die volkspartei centre left ? Die volkspartei is right, so FPO is more/far right
Faszinierend wie manche Leute fremde Menschen fürchten. Wien ist gemischter als früher, sicher, aber was ist das Problem dabei? Richtige Integration, fast alle machen keine Probleme.
It’s very encouraging to see talk of “remigration” become mainstream in Europe and parties winning elections with that kind of rhetoric. Major progress has been made, even in just the last 5 years.
Can the President really stop the FPO leader from becoming chancellor when they had the most votes though? As far as I know, presidents in Austria are a ceremonial role like the British Monarchy in the UK and Canada. They're not an actual powerful politician like Macron in France.
@giantWario Yes, the president is the only one directly voted by the people, and has more power than people think. He can also dissolve goverments and is the military commander in chief. The use of this power just wasnt necessary yet. If he doesnt order FPÖ to make a government it would be a highly undemocratic move tough
Austrian presidents aren't nearly as much a collection of mannequins as the German ones. He can refuse to swear in ministers for example. Also, the first party forms the government is a pragmatic convention, not a hard rule. They need a majority.
@@sciencefliestothemoon2305 it is because the president would break a tradition that always existed, because of personal favor. And well you could say this of every other party too? So i dont understand the point of your statement, especially because FPÖ and ÖVP have similar party program.
Not really hard to explain. The "classicl" european parties are constantly getting further away from the people who pays their salaries. In some places (like this case) people see that and act accordingly and in other they choose "another round of the same stuff no matter what".
In my opinion, as an Austrian, an FPÖ and ÖVP coalition is the most likely. First, other coalitions would have to include an ÖVP/SPÖ partnership, which is highly unlikely given their current political stands, such as the SPÖ wanting to introduce a 32-hour workweek. They also prefered the FPÖ over the SPÖ in the past when it came to coalition forming. I'm also not sure if Nehammer will remain the leader of the ÖVP. Additionally, it would look pretty undemocratic if Van der Bellen didn't give the task of forming a government to the FPÖ, which would only strengthen them in the next election.
This is the least likely coalition because it would mean one of the party leaders have to step down which historically never worked. The most likely outcome is a ÖVP-SPÖ-NEOS coalition, simple because the ÖVP/Greens have completely lost trust in each other over the recent months, especially since the EU debacle.
Exactly. Schmähammer, Karoline Edtstadler, Hanger and the rest of that lot will have to go first, and that's down to whoever pulls the strings at the ÖVP (possibly Johanna Mikl-Leitner?). The other alternative would be Germany-like coalition which will do nothing to deal with the issues we face and I predict will fall apart way before full legislature period. And then the FPÖ will get 40%, not 29% of the votes.
@@MaxiTB Yeah,but then again, I can't really see an ÖVP/SPÖ coalition consindering how they interacted with each other during and before the election. So the question is if, as you said, a ÖVP/SPÖ/NEOS coalition would work together just because they really don't want the FPÖ in government which could backfire pretty damn big imo.
@@yinzuro True, keep in mind I said most likely, not best or flawless. NEOS will push them to support reforms or they would totally bite themselves into the behind and the grand old parties will not be happy with that. So the coalition is a high risk affair, it could pay off greatly for everyone or bomb like a grand coalition without them - cause let's be honest, nothing would end up being done in another grand one.
@@alessandramaria00 if you can honestly take a look at European demographics and not see that there is a replacement taking place then I dont think there is hope for you
I remember reading someone's comment on this channel saying "As usual TLDR gets things half right and half wrong" as if they didn't read because it was too long. Still true to this day about this channel.
Love the content. Two minor corrections: 1. Only 2% voted for FPÖ because of Kickl. 2. And Kreisky was also called peoples chancellor, who is one of the most celebrated Austrian politicians from all sides. So that's who "others" also includes. It's just a weird thing a controversial German comedian started. Otherwise it's a short, but fair representation.
@@silverdoctor6298 No it's not, the authoritarian-libertarian scale is not identical to the economic Left-Right scale. You're correct if you're just talking about Marxian ideals, but Marx being "libleft" doesn't mean other people and governments didn't take on "authleft" ideals in practice. I shall now need to take a shower and touch grass.
@@chrisbeer5685 Enforcing speech codes which 75 % of the population oppose, supporting mass-illegal immigration and opposing any border control on a EU level, hindering the development of vital infrastructure based on erroneous environmentlism, blocking the construction of hydroplants producing clean energy, blocking the construction of disaster precautions right before a massive flood happened etc. etc.
@@shantyclips6358 What of that would you consider far left? May that be stupid? for sure. But what does this have to do with Left-wing politics (a.k.a. political ideologies that support and seek to achieve social equality and egalitarianism)? You can be center-left and for radical climate action. You can be far right and for radical climate action. Environmentalism isn't captured by the left-right schema, it's another dimension of analysis (e.g. an axis) in itself.
The FPÖ being a junior partner to the ÖVP, while having won more votes isnt a rare thing. Back in Schlüssel I the FPÖ under Haider also backed aside, with Haider returning to Carinthia/Kärnten and the ÖVP putting up the chancellor
Btw. I just want to say that Austria is just so lucky that everyone is always criticizing Germany. If everyone took such a close look at Austria, things would definitely be different there. Hugs and kisses from Germany 😄
Keep using the "far-right" label to describe simple populist movements across Europe, like other propagandist corporate media... Clearly using that pejorative has been working! The "far-right" has never been stronger in Europe. Maybe if news channels like yours use that word enough, all the people who want change will feel ashamed! Keep it up! Using pejoratives to describe the majority of Europeans surely will be successful!!!
I don't understand why the far-right is so mad that they're called far-right. It's an objective term ffs. No one would call the FPÖ center-right, would they?
would definitely define them as far-right, considering that they - have a strong anti-immigration stance - use nationalist rhetoric, with emphasis on austrian identity - have oppositions to multiculturalism - promote xenophobic and islamophobic views - were literally founded by a former SS officer - their party members regularly end up in controversies regarding nazi-sympathization
A FPÖ/ÖVP coalition is (sadly) not as out of the question as you make it out to be. Most Austrians (me included) think that it is the most likely outcome. And even if it somehow isn't, the FPÖ will only have more fodder (Since a OVP/SPÖ coalition will most likely not stop the inflation and we have a major middle east crisis incoming) for the next run and can really lean into the victim role.
@@chrisbeer5685 Have you read the story of the Boy who cried wolf? The point is even if this party is a wolf, the "defenders" have been whining about false wolves for so long that no one is going to believe them when they finally are right.
The ÖVP is definetly Right and not Centre Right like they present themself. Policy wise they are similar to the FPÖ, just more pro business and retorically they are a lot more moderate
@@dinozocker_lp1465come on stop talking nonesence övp is very much center. Under kurz not but under nehammer they are. They are pro EU pro Ukraine pro nato and quite center in the question of migration. How are they conparavlr to fpi
OK Austrian Politics left to right - far left KPÖ, centre left Greens and SPÖ , Centre Neons and Beer, centre right ÖVP, far right FPÖ. Make sense now? The easiest way to think about it is the parties no one wants to work with, so the KPÖ and FPÖ are "far".
Integration is the issue, not migration. If you let people participate and don't treat them like second-class citizens, they will adapt. It is this foundational misunderstanding of the right-wing mindset that fumbles the entire crisis from "bad, but manageable" into "devastating and unfixable". A solution is staring right-wingers in their face, but they refuse to vote for it, even if the work is being done for them.
@@stammesbruder America's treating their migrants better than their citizens right now, and it not working, especially when they refuse to learn the language and dozens more show up every week, integrations sounds nice, but seems unlikely to work in practice, Since they come illegally why would they wish to integrate? Who said they want to learn the language and learn to live as the native citizens do? Take a look at U.K France, and Germany, where certain areas law enforcement don't dare go down, these people clearly don't want to integrate, so what do you do about them?
@@stammesbruder No mate, sometimes it really is as simple as the guests being terrible no matter what the hosts do to accommodate them. The Hyksos and the Texians and even the modern R0m-@ are all proof of this.
The first letzer is pronounced similar to how you say the letter "E" in english. Just ask the "Vengaboys", who's song "We're going to Ibiza" went viral in Austria when the scandal broke
It's a shame that you again missed a key factor in analyzing the election results - the education level of the voters. Here are some more detailed numbers from ORF's analysis. Voters with a University degree: ÖVP: 27% NEOS: 19% SPÖ: 18% Greens: 16% FPÖ: 15% Voters with at least a completed high school: ÖVP: 29% SPÖ: 20% NEOS: 16% FPÖ: 16% Greens: 12% Voters who're currently employed, but don't have a completed high school degree: FPÖ: 47% ÖVP: 17% SPÖ: 16% NEOS: 9% Greens: 5% And another very worrying statistic: 45% of the the voters who cast their vote for the FPÖ believe that democracy is NOT the best form of government.. In short yet another election with a stark difference in outcome between the uneducated and the educated population. The uneducated simply don't have the necessary critical and analytical skills to understand the causes of the current mediocre state of the economy in EU and equally as important aren't capable of devising actionable solutions to the problems and thus fall for populism. Plus they tend to spend a lot of their time on social media complaining very loudly instead of using that time to think about solutions and addressing with their local MP(s).. Yes high immigration rates are problematic (the majority of the immigration to Austria is from other EU/EEA countries though) and it's important that immigrants from outside the EU are well and quickly integrated (and that was often neglected by social-democratic parties in Western countries). But from my experience (I live in Oberbayern close to the Austrian border) many of these uneducated FPÖ voters who are "anti-immigration" in fact mean "I want Austria to leave the EU, because all these Croats, Slovenians, Romanians, Poles are taking our jobs and Germans/Bavarians are buying our houses in-mass!" equally as much as they dislike and despise "Muslims and Arabs".
Did this guy just call the Austrian Greens "center-left"? No wonder he thinks FPO is "far-righr"; he's completely clueless or flat out lying about everything.
Oh yes, radicalnideas like an Austria-wide public tranport pass or renaturation. That's totally the same as singing SS songs and calling for the end of constitutional human rights
Yeah, they complete mix up Austrian terminology with English one ... here we would rightfully call a party that tries to get rid of Human rights a Neo-Nazi party, they just call that conservative in Britain/US. Completely different base level to what is normal in English speaking countries. In their scale NEOS, a libertarian party, would be basically a "socialist" party if you consider their policies.
@@tomc642 Who cares when it was written, the Swastika is millenia old. Fact is, both are used by Nazis as Symbols. Yes, Kickl has called for removing central parts of the Human Rights Convention from the Austrian constitution.
@inversion3492 That is, because with emotional little children you cannot have a rational conversation. At one time leftists were intellectuals, not anymore.
“You’re far right if you disagree with globalism, also we’re the anti establishment ones even tho we agree with it on everything except for Israel-Palestine”
Sounds like a sane analysis of the situation: FPO came first, OVP isn't happy, coalitions possible between the FPO and OVP or OVP and SPO. OVP leader dislikes FPO leader.
@inversion3492 first they came for the commies and I didn't speak out - because I was not a commie. Then they came for the moslems and I didn't speak out - because I was not a moslem. Then they came for the nikkas and I didn't speak out - because I was not a nikka. Then pretty much all problems were solved so they never had to come back
@@SilverWave64We weren't talking about if it's bad you explicitely said that they aren't far-right. The fact that you seem to equate far-right with bad means you probably have no confidence in your position. Why are you ashamed of calling yourself far-right? Own it. Wanting an ethnostate is far right, whether you think it's bad or not. And why are you downplaying it? The FPOe doesn't just stand against immigration, the endore nazi actions, they call themself fuehrer, why are you leaving all that out?
@SilverWave64 Israel is also an Ethnostate, which shouldn't continue its oppressing politics. Israel is critcize by the entire UN and International Courts?!
Center parties need to understand the current crisis NEEDS to be adressed or the people will keep voting in "extremes". Respect your "enemies", listen to them, and listen to the problems they are pointing to. You might dislike their proposed solution, but CLEARLY, they are talking about problems the public feels are important.
This sound doesn’t exist in English. You’re watching a video from a Brit so expect that pronunciation. Should you wish to hear a proper “Ö,” watch a German language video
Europeans being anyone you agree with? I'm irish and the far right party here (the national party) is clinically insane to the point where I'd rather leave for America then stay in ireland under a government led by them, the far right is terrible.
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3:02 that is not the correct pronunciation of Ibiza, it is not pronounced ai-bi-za, according to Spanish and Catalan pronunciation rules. Ee-bee-tha is the pronunciation according to an English pronunciation rules if there are any rules.
@@chrisbeer5685 I'd argue the ÖVP has shifted towards the far-right over the past decade. One of their members openly stated that they are "like the FPÖ, but with actual solutions".
Nope, singing SS songs is far right, being founded by an SS General and traitor is far right, conciously using Nazi symbols and rhetorik ("Volkskanzler", "Sytemparteien", "Lügenpresse") to attract Nazis is far right.
What to expect from a country where one of the presidents in the 80s was an ex-SS officer who spent a lot of time in the Balkans (I wonder what he was doing there, it's not like that place was one of the most brutal when it came to ethnic cleansing in WW2, right?). Maybe chronically not dealing with your past is a ticking time bomb, which was going to explode soon. What a shame. It is a beautiful country that I am in love with, the landscape, the culture, architecture, the amazing mountains... the list goes on and on. The place looks like a paradise, for crying out loud. But the demons had to come out full force at some point. It was inevitable.
How do you define Far Left? Many confuse Social Democracy with Socialism-Communism and claim its far let, but its certainly not. We could discuss if German "Die Linke" is at least in parts far Left. But its not a noteworthy Party anymore.
The FPÖ is right of Reform. The party was founded by a Nazi, and is in constant contact with Nazis. Jeez some of them sang the SS hymn on a funeral a couple of days ago
The capital Vienna has become a litteral battleground for rival Afghan and Chechen gangs (google it). Maybe 29% of Austrians just dont want all of Austria to become like that. 🤔🤔
It’s hilarious all the people in these comments like their Austria is not a weak nation with no defense. These are the same Austrians that demand to be protected because of their “neutrality” by NATO, free trade while they’re protectionist, and EU subsides. This is the Orban mindset that doesn’t live in geopolitical reality, tourism to Vienna is not gonna save Austria from those consequences. I never really understood how these types of parties never understood immigration is a domestic issue, and if it is international based on a flow from example North Africa then you have to give concessions to those countries to help you stem the flow like Spain recognizes Morocco’s claim on Western Sahara
Pretty difficult to pronounce everything correctly on a Europe-wide news show. Ibiza was like the least important thing they mispronounced here. It's not like they said any of their Ö-s correctly. They do habitually make actual factual errors though, so it's definitely something to look out for.
Just make sure all Arts Universities and Schools have right funding and can contain as many students as possible
I shouldn't find that comment so funny... But I do. A bit true as well (that part is less funny...)
golden comment
Lol
@@CombatFXZone This is not Reddit (lucky)
(he said this comment needs more 'up votes')
@@CombatFXZone LOL changed it
the FPÖ has been in Gouvernement three times not two. you missed the 1983 coalition with the SPOe
not 5 times?
5 times actually
@@guacamolegeneral1060 depends how you count. strickly speaking 5 times, yes. but twice is was rather a "reshuffling" during the term period..so in the context here i would say 3 times is still ok :)...more importantly it was more than two times and not only with ÖVP
@@yt_robin_0and adding to that kreiskys spö was elected in 1970 as a minority government with the votes of the FPÖ.
Then the OVP was 2 times. 1 ) before spo and fpo and 2) since them. IMHO it’s time they get a break.
The ability of European governments to ignore the concerns of their people in favor grandstanding is astounding but not unsurprising.
Well unfortunately for cheap labour they do
Well European governments have little manouver room when it comes to the topic at hand, refugees and asylum seekers. The Austrian stance was for a long time a very strict one and has not become any less in recent years. But it acts in the framework of international and national law, especially the European Convention on Human Rights and Geneva Convention. The former is a directly applicable part of the Austrian constitution which cannot be changed by the Austrian legislator but would have to be changed by all the signatory countries. That is also why the FPÖ did not increase the number of repatriations during their term in office from 2017 to 2019.
how many fucking times is this gonna be repeated? they havent been ignoring migration for the last 6 years. All center right, liberal and christian democrat parties even with some left leaning parties have become openly anti migration. But alas, the average FPO/AFD/PVV voter is so low information that they wouldnt even find this out in the first place.
Isn’t that basically every government lol
the FPOe is a straight up neonazi party. nothing a government does justifies voting for them
At this point, I have a hard time finding a european country where the far-right isn't on the rise.
Probably Scandinavian countries
Poland, Spain and Scandinavia, also France recently had a pretty left-wing results in their elections
Albania.
Wait for spain....if the mass migration keep happening, the right will have clean it up
Heres a hint: the ones not being invaded by Islamists aren’t seeing the rise. Put 2+2 together please.
I don't know if it's funny or sad the videos like this still ask the "Why?" question. The writing is on the wall. It was there for almost a decade now. It's now written with burning letters.
A mix of factors including austerity, wealth disparity, chronic underinvestment in young people's futures and the successful scapegoating of very vulnerable people by opportunistic xenophobes, yes.
@@Talisguy ah yes, wanting a safe country where you can go to a christmas event and not see policemen with assault rifles is xenophobia
@@Talisguy People love scapegoating immigrants and refugees, which makes it so easy for wealthy people to escape accountability. Funny (well, sad) thing is that it's not even exclusive to western countries. Even in third world countries: for example, in my home country of Pakistan, people are blaming Afghans for straining the economy. Like, sure buddy, as if Pakistan will suddenly become a first-world country without the Afghans. The horrific human rights crime the government of Pakistan did recently to kick many of them out has solved very little of our actual problems, and I guarantee most of Europe's problems will remain even if they reduce immigration. Nothing wrong with controlling immigration, but far-right extremism pretending that immigration is the core problem is misguided.
@@anonyKinetic It's not purely scapegoating though, Germany in 2021, asylum seekers made up 13.1% of all sexual assault suspects, despite comprising only 2.5% of the population (one statistic shown around).
@@advers790yeah obviously the war on christmas is a big issue, and the far right is going to solve it all by deportating migrants and cutting all help to them, this way the people that are already there will feel even more integrated and everything is going to be fine
Not sure if its intentionally missleading or poorly researched, but there are multiple errors in the video, e.g. at 1:36 : the FPO has been in governement more then twice. They also formed a coaltion with the SPO in 1983. A couple of sentences later the narrator says the FPO has been a marginal opposition party for decades before they shifted to the right in the 80s. Thats wrong again, they were actually in governement when Haider took over leadership.
I mean he did mention that it's made from Nazis, so they never were anything else really. Just got more aggressive
@@nBomFwho cares atleast Nazis dont slit our daughters troaths in the name of Allah
@@nBomF all of our parties had of nazis in the beginning. even the greens. politics without them would not have been possible without them.
TLDR is a leftwing newschannel that loves doing smear jobs on the right, what dod you expect?
Thank you for providing insight on the errors
Calling the greens "centre left" is crazy 😭
waltuh
True, they are far-left.
@@leviathan4579the greens are conservative environmentalists.
They would be centre left in most european countries. We austrians are just way more conservative than we think.
why? they are quite conservative in Austria
The moderate and left wing parties need to change their stances on immigration at this point, regardless of whether people on the left think its an issue, its clearly a big enough issue that its swinging elections across Europe. This is Russia's main play to survive its current situation in Ukraine, we need to stop it before the effects become irreversible. Sitting around calling people who have been swayed by anti-immigration rhetoric racists isnt serving us anymore.
they will just legitimize the right wing parties by adopting their policies. They will lose left wing voters and gain nothing.
@@greenrico10 Denmark??? From what I've read, it worked swimmingly in delegitimizing the radicals.
This right there is why "you" have to go from power. You just recognized that people that experience and expose the problems of mass migration are not racist. It was just an establishment rhetoric to demonize a part of the population and in the mean time destroying thousands upon thousands of lives. You have no morals, you are despic*ble.
Communist
this is emperically incorrect.
We have ample evidence form studies that come to the conclusion that the opposite is true.
Because once the center and center-left party engage in a harsher stance on migration, the far right is in reality gaining in votes long term.
Up 13% since last election and is now the biggest one, and AS ALWAYS.. the reaction from the status quo parties is not "let's look at why voters are upset and work on those issues together", but rather "let's work together to lock them out from any sort of power, making the population even more angry in the long run".
Always the exact same circle in every single European country where the right-wing party has skyrocketed. It's pathetic.
You don’t understand parliamentarianism. It’s not uncommon at all that parties with 30-40% of seats to be left without any government ministers or policy influence. It happens all the time with major center right and center left parties when the opposition coalitions has a majority. That’s how it works and it’s not undemocratic.
FPÖ is for a Western European “far right” party very radical in terms of Pro Russia, Corrupt, Anti EU, anti-constitutional, extremist views/“banter” and anti immigration stance. Much more so than for example PVV in The Netherlands, FDL in Italy, SD and FrP in Sweden/Norway or Reform in the UK. Which makes FPÖ much more difficult to have in government due to safety risks and incompatible policies/values. Not to mention that every FPÖ coalition in history has resulted in collapse and scandals.
No wonder the other parties doesn’t want to cooperate. Even if I agree it’s a nessicary evil for the established parties to drastically restrict immigration to disarm the FPÖ’s main voting magnet.
The FPÖ puts the most amount of money into propaganda, they primarily work with populistic rethoric - a playbook that has been proven to work over time. The issues created are fictitious or at least over-emphasized. It's not rooted in reality. There is nothing to look into - their voters are victims of (by now) well-known manipulation tactics to believe in a false enemy. It's all their rethoric revolves around - a heterogenous force (which always happens to be a rather powerless minority) that destroys everything we hold dear.
The FPÖ is a dangerous party, and it's issues can only be adressed by getting them away from power as much as possible. Otherwise, they will keep poisoning the well. The root-cause can only be effectively adressed by severely limiting freedom of expression, and I think we all know that's not going to happen, for very good reasons.
Well it needs to be both. These Nazi sympathising Russian stooges need to be kept out of power in the short term, but the issues need to be addressed.
@@Fluxwuxwith such reply you are literally confirming what he has written over there. Status quo, specially left/socialists/greens are disappearing by 2030 at this point
@@marcpourecio I simply explained that parties that has proved that they can’t govern in the past and has huge problems with corruption and extremist views (that makes them impossible to work with) doesn’t have a god given right to be a part of government when they have 29% of the vote (average center right/left party voter share in opposition all over Europe). Call that status quo all you want, but it’s not something weird or illogical - especially when grand coalitions have been a thing in European politics in all of modern history. And I’m pretty sure FPÖ will do something insane this term as well that makes them plummet down to 15-20% in the next election, which is basically a rule of nature now. Not to mention that far right parties in Europe usually have a ceiling at about 30%. So no, the left will not disappear by 2030 😅
Do you honestly think Austria must become full Orban, pro Russian, climate deniers, leave the EU and break every constitutional and international law applied on migration (to “send them all back”) and accept their corruption or security risks as ministers just because FPÖ got 29%? What about the 71% of Austrians that didn’t vote FPÖ?
Sure I think, the other big parties must (and most likely will) adapt to the concerns of FPÖ voters on issues like migration, crime, cost of living etc in order to win back votes and take the problems more seriously now. But that doesn’t mean a FPÖ lead government, or even ministers.
People are sick of terror attacks...
How very, very, Islamophobic of them.
only ur ppl do these
Islamophobic ❌️
Common sense✅️@@xataru
@@thatoneunemployedmfonly islam(the curse to the world) do that
when did we start classify opposing immigration as far right?
In the 1990s. And you are also far-right for questioning that logic.
Since always? Centrist and left wing parties are not anti-immigration, as least as a blanket statement.
@@tammuz1921Obama ran in 2008 on increased controls on immigration.
I mean they want to do a lot more then just oppose immigration.
So where would you position opposing immigration? Also a party is much more than just its position on immigration.
I've got only one point of correction: Karl Nehammer didn't rule out a government with Kickl as Chancellor, but with Kickl at the head of the FPÖ.
It's kind of different?
No he ruled out Kickl being in any important role at all. Let's see if he keeps his promise but he did rule out Kickl as Chancellor or any minister at all
I just wanted to write the exact same comment 🙂
@@erenaslan5316I can't see the ÖVP in a coalition as a junior partner. Senior partner, instantly, but I doubt they'll be willing to give up the chancellor position to FPÖ
@@juannaym8488 yeah same, their ego is too big lol but yeah I really hope that will happen, I really REALLY do not want the self declared 'Volkskanzler' and that party to be in power
2:36 so you're saying that the outside world decided to punish Austria for forming a right-wing government and somehow this is normal?
It's liberal logic.
yes, just as the Austro-Hungarian empire punished the peoples who did not please them, so now those peoples are punishing the Austro-Hungarians
no, they decided to "punish" them because of forming a nazi goverment... youre too young to understand why thats a problem..
@@weiserwolf580 over 100 years ago
It wasn't normal and also not acceptable. Many have stated that in hindsight
The greens are not "centre-left" XD
Yes they are. They're only slightly more left than the SPÖ.
@@chrisbeer5685 The SPÖ are not center left either
@@chrisbeer5685 in my op they are far left and very authoritrian.
@@UfschtonGong Lol, how so? Like name one far-left or authoritarian policy rhey have. Is it the national public transport pass? The climate Bonus?
@@UfschtonGong how are they auth
Not wanting to become a hated minority in your own homeland is not far-right
@@jackdunn3235 very important indeed, i will do my part
But for the whole country not possible/feasible if not combined with a migration-stop/remigration
thinking that would even happen IS far-right
@@lightningstrike5024Then the far-right is objectively correct
@@lightningstrike5024Denying reality is far left. Literally wake up
@@jackdunn3235 Your terms are acceptable.
Any coalition that does not include the FPÖ will, in the long run favor the FPÖ. Such narrow coalitions will make the country hard to govern, giving ammo to the FPÖ that on the next election can thus focus on how ineffective the other parties were.
What I really do not understand, with all polls in Austria showing that immigration is a major concern to the majority of Austrians, why don't the other parties don't just revise their stance on it according to the people's will? The same goes for Germany.
because they don't care what the voters want and that's because they're left-wing.
Nehammer for example, was never chosen by the people.
They can’t and won’t. They receive funding from outside lobbying groups that won’t allow them to change their rhetoric
Because it is not like the parties in Austria dont talk about immigration, the ÖVP actually has a pretty hard stance on immigration, comparing their stance 10 years ago, also the other parties talk differently and actually moved more into the right, concerning this topic. But they also show that it isnt that easy to just say that all immigrants are bad. So when someone steps up and tells mostly formally less-educated people that dont really want to invest their time to research history and politics that everything is the immigrants fault, the people may even WANT to believe it, as in this case, they would not be held responsible for mistakes they made or bad luck they had in their past. (This should not be a personal attack on these people, the votes show that less formally educated people tend to vote more for the FPÖ)
Also, all "solutions" of the FPÖ concerning immigration actually are just plain dumb, like "we dont let anybody in anymore" which violates Human Rights, the Austrian constitution, geneva convention, EU-laws and so on. What is pretty funny is that, every voter that really fears immigration (even though statistics show that at least economically immigrants are almost always a net-positive - just look at the USA) would be better off voting the ÖVP, as their stances would actually be implementable.
And the funniest, the "working class people" that now tend to vote for the FPÖ, actually would suffer the most under a FPÖ-ÖVP coalition (which is the only possibility where their voted party would be in charge), because all economic and social policies by these parties would help the upper 10% (approximately of course).
But why take an interest in politics when someone gives you free beer and tells you that everything is another persons fault...
And yeah we still have around 10% naz*s in this country that will vote for the party no matter what happens, as shown after Ibiza.
And maybe one last thing, you cant just "revise" your stance on immigration if you have something like a moral code. This party (FPÖ) talks about pushing people back into countries where they suffered for many years under sometimes cruel dictators or fundamentalist idiots, which would statistically kill them with a high probability, which I at least find a bit wrong...
The other parties do and already have changed their positions, but, as always, the original profits the most out of it.
Also, while immigration is a major concern, people generally don't really care about work or outcomes, they just want to hear racist bullshit to feel safe. Why I'm sure of that? Kickl was minister of inner affairs, during the last ÖVP-FPÖ-coalition. Under his reign, the most refugees arrived in Austria - However, people rather ignore that, because he's talking like a screaming toddler in kindergarden, much to the liking of a lot of people.
Some did though. The ÖVP immigration stance is very close to the FPÖ stance. Most differences are constitutional issues (stuff the FPÖ promises but can't deliver without a government that has two thirds of the seats in parliament). The people just don't believe them, because it's the FPÖ's main topic since the 1990s.
The fact that 29% of austrians, vote for a party that was founded by THREE former NSDAP members one of them being a high ranking SS general and politician in the brown house is VERY concerning.
exactly
Don't look up the pasts of the people in charge in 1950s and 60s Germany then.
The party leader is a jew. So no need to be concerned about its nazi founders
Concerning its not run by said SS men.
The fact that Trump won by a blowout victory have you concerned even more?
People are tired of this BS immigration policies
What exactly constitutes "far right" ?
Not wanting non Europeans as a majority
being founded by nazis (and I mean literal members of the NSDAP) and never properly severing ties with their past is a good indication
If your mps sing SS songs doesn’t make you for right? Keep denying reality those people are insane
hatred for diversity and minorities, desire to live in an ethnostate, closed off from the rest of the world, over-attachment for traditions and religion, desire for a strongman, a leader who puts things back in their place and leads the nation back to it's former glory. "germany for the germans", "make america great again", "god, homeland, family" and all that 1930s crap. usually there's a good dose of militarism and distrust in international institutions, laws and diplomacy too.
@@dimon3098 That's also the problem, is that people are uneducated and just being spoon-fed whatever narrative the media wants to push. The song in question dates back to 1814, long before Hitler, and has absolutely nothing to do with Nazism. The Nazis sang Christmas songs, drove Volkswagens and listened to Bach, Beethoven & Mozart too, should those be cancelled as well?
8:02 "What do the worlds best politicians have in common??" Proceeds to show Ursula and Joe.. LOL 😂😂😂
1:18 the FPÖ has been in goverment 3 times and supported a minority goverment twice. (Kreisky and Sinowatz, both SPÖ and Schlüssel I and Kurz I)
The FPÖ has actually been a partner in a coalition government three times. The first time was from 1983-1986 as junior partner in an SPÖ led coalition under chancellors Sinowatz and Vranitzky.
I'm so fucking done with my country. 5 years of systematic dismantling of social security and services incoming. Thank god for Schengen. I'm done. I'm out.
Though I agree with your prediction, that the next 5 years will not change our country to the better, I disagree that the dismantling of social security and services will be so bad, that it will justify moving to another country. (Where will you go? Germany? France? Hungry?) I would consider the main risk of a ÖVP-FPÖ-coalition, that it will "clean up" the corruption prosecution like they did with the constitution protection during their last time, and finally dismantle independence of justice. Basically a "project 2025" in small...
Very nice, go to california or chicago and enjoy diversity while we enjoy a right wing government
how does that boot taste?
My bet is a Dutch or Swedish government solution. With either a ÖVP or Technocrat Chancellor and FPÖ ministers, alongside several key FPÖ policies, but with some compromises, being implemented as compensation for missing the chancellor position (Dutch).
Or a ÖVP one party minority government with a sort of strict written policy agreement with the FPÖ and tight cooperation, but no FPÖ ministers in government. But as compromise the FPÖ gets essentially complete control over migration policy and some other issues, but ÖVP gets to decide most other things like foreign policy, economic policy etc (Swedish)
The problem is that the ÖVP also wants to forsake our neutrality drag Austria into NATO and is not prepared to confront its mistakes during the Cor__a years.
@@tturtle1659 If one of these solutions occur, I am pretty sure FPÖ will be able to veto NATO however. As it is such a major decision
Non of those are very likely in the Austrian system as the Federal President would probably not go with any of those solutions. The most likely option even with the slim margin is a ÖVP/SPÖ government, with a more unlikely option of a ÖVP/SPÖ/NEOS triple coalition.
The second possible option is a FPÖ/ÖVP government, which at the moment seems very unlikely unless one of the two parties switches their leader and the ÖVP does a 180° u-turn on its position and the Federal President does one too. He has to this point ruled out to appoint the FPÖ to a government due to their anti EU and anti human rights positions.
A technocratic government is very unlikely, a ÖVP minority government is all but impossible - who should back that up? The FPÖ defininitly not, the SPÖ certainly not as well.
BTW the whole fuss about migration policies. Austria already has very strict rules there, scraping the limits of what the European Convention on human rights allows. The FPÖ already had control of the Interior ministry and that policy area, the number of refugees arriving did not decrease and the number of repatriations did not increase. It is all a bunch of BS promises, that is not founded in anything the Austrian constiution would allow. So unless the FPÖ goes full dictatorship and flies in Russian troops to back themselves up, there wont be any significant changes to the way Austria treats migrants.
@@Fluxwux nope, it needs at least 33% of all votes to block such a decision.
@@stefanmaier1853 stop telling lies, the numbers DID drop during Kickl's very short term as interior minister, and our rules are basically we allow anyone and his dog to claim asylum status as soon as they set foot on our soil. Kickl did start to reform the law and the court did NOT decide all of the proposals were in breach of the ECHR or our constitution, only some were, and it was expected the proposal could be sufficiently tweaked to conform. Then of course Kurz and our active mummy in the Hofburg decided to break up the coalition, so. The same as what the FPÖ proposes has already done the trick in Denmark (ruled by sensible Socialists, not dreamers like the Babler SPÖ), Sweden and Holland. And let us not even mention the Visegrad states.
>migration
>Immediately vote for the guys singing SS songs
country wide brain injury
Its a shake its not run by the SS.
- mom I've hurt my knee!
- oh no, witch one? The left one or the far right one?
Ö is NOT O. It is a completely different sound. It is like the I in "Bird" or "Firth" or sometimes like the u in "Furry" depending on where it is placed in a word.
Kurz is spelled kurz, not kurtz
No, is not. Kurts, z in german is ts
@@thieph bro, trust me. I’m German. Sebastian Kurz was not named Sebastian Kurtz.
@@thieph you know, the former Austrian chancellor
@@thieph that this video is referencing
@@thieph It is READ as Kurts, but it is spelled as Kurz, because the German Z makes the TS sound
Pan Germanists? Does this mean reunification with Germany?
Not the first time it happened
While I get this is a joke it is in the Austrian constitution that it can not join Germany.
Baumstumpf.
Because a piece of paper matters
It would be not less just than annexation of Eastern Germany.
@@Baumstumpf.constitution can be changed
As secretary of the interior, Hickl literally had security services raided in order to garner intell on their observations of right wing extremist groups.
This guy is terrifying.
Terrifying? He is a Chad. We love him.
that actually sounds massive, never heard of it. Is there a good way to read up on it, can't find it with a quick search.
@@Kalimdor199Menegroth Yes you do have a history of lovable wannabe painters, don't you?
This is not because Hickl is a problem. This is a problem with the Ministry of the Interior.
We do not love him an I hope when he leaves he takes historical inspiration in how to "depart"
The way you pronounce Ibiza is an interesting choice haha
english pronounciation: EYE-bee-zah
spanish pronounciation: E-bee-tha
TLDR using an interesting hybrid version!
@@cabinessenceking*american English pronunciation
In Britain we said “eye-bee-tha”
@@lachlanchester8142Eeh-bee-tsah is correct
@@thieph since when? Look up how it’s said in Spanish…
@@lachlanchester8142 Ibiza is a italian island, lol
seems like the "far-right" slur stopped working
...it only becomes far-right the moment they "turn on the gas" - am I right?
@@jarls5890 slippery slope argument
It's not a slur, it's a statement of fact.
@@leGUIGUI Not really, a lot of the parties labelled as far right are not, they're usually moderate parties, like the NF, FPO, AFD, SD etc etc. These parties are moderate compared to most on far right
We're all far right now.
Either democracy ends migration or migration ends democracy.
What type of racism are you smoking?
@crisgetcrucified6972
he's not wrong though. Import the third world, become the third world
@@jamie59685 they made the third world in the first place
Until we find a solution to the worldwide wealth inequality (which also means that we need to stop getting investment income from former colonial nations which far exceeds "development help"), the motivation to migrate will only increase.
But the reason why migration will end democracy is not because we cannot afford to integrate refugees or refugees leading to exploding criminality, but instead because the capitalists suck our economy dry, and the rightwing parties are successfully redirecting the blame, because they are supported by the anti-left capitalists (they prefer to be oligarchs in fascism instead of being unneeded in socialism).
There are obstacles with democracys ending migration:
Asylum is a human right, and therefore at least for this part you are not able to remove it, without damaging your constitutional state which we consider to be part of "spirit of democracy". And yes, that includes "push backs".
Also there are many people who you cannot "deport", if they illegaly travel to your country: no nationality (or they are successfull to hide it), source country does not accept them,...
I would assume a country trying the "final solution" for this problem to not be considered a democracy any more...
Racist crybabies are the funniest people on earth
First video I've seen with a correct title:
"...yet another far-right victory..."
Its an european trend at this point
Another huge win for Europeans
I don't even know if it's "far right"
@@charlesjameskelly7689 another huge L for europe.
@@thatoneunemployedmf
then left should have defended the w more wisely and carefully, Machevill principle no. 1 people are selfish
5:39 A small correction: the former chancellor is called "Kurz", without "t".
Somehow people are shocked that if you ignore the problems caused by migration that the people move to the people talking about the problems... yeah, very big brain
It's absolutely crazy that people just ignore history. Anyone who gives any semblance of a shit should be very concerned about and very opposed to the rise of the far right.
Only degens like yourself have any reason to be opposed to the rise of the non-existent far right.
Correction: The FPÖ was already in a ruling coalition before 2000 with the SPÖ from 1983 to 1987. Also, the name of the party NEOS is usually not pronounced as an acronym but as plural "the neos".
Technically was in a ruling coalition with the Germans before that too :P
NEOS is such an autistic name.
This video is riddled with inaccurracies, I pointed them all out but my comment was deleted 🙂
@@MaxiTB welcome to youtube 2024. 90% propaganda and censorship.
@@MaxiTB what were the other inaccuracies you spotted? Hopefully you can mention them here in a subcomment without them being deleted
1:52 how's being anti EU anti Europe😅😅😅
Well that’s pretty much the same
Especially when Russia does everything possible to weaken the EU
@@radosawmarkowski5379 EU and Europe aren't the same thing. And it was EU that set itself against Russia, not the other way around. Of course that neutrality and national sovereignty must feel very anti-EU to you.
@@Hardcore_Remixeryes I remember the EU violating international treaties and launching an invasion of Ukraine... wait no that was Ruzzia lol
Being pro-Russia is not exactly pro-Europe
@@JeffPar50 Being fully neutral means ignoring Russia's wars and just making business as usual, aka no sanctions.
Of course, neutrality must feel pro-Russian to you.
Is this party actually “far-right” or is it more so centre right
Its right wing but not far right
The party wants to:
-Completely halt asylum migration, violating multiple international treaties
-Deport immigrants already living in the country
The party also openly supports Russia, a dictatorial terrorist state, and wants to cut all aid to Ukraine.
The party is also massively corrupt, which was explained in this video
I wouldnt considers these things "center right"
They are Nazis in disguise.
If they could, they would start the 4th Reich.
very far right, nowhere near the centre
Any party that is not pro immigration is considered far right by tldr
As an Austrian myself i dont like this party (far-right) at all. They where the strongest in this election, but they probably wont be even in the government, because they dont have 50 percent. 70% of Austria is against them and that is good. If some Americans would say now it is unfair that the strongest party will not be part of goverment, then you are wrong because thats not how parlamentary elections work over here.
True! There are countless examples of all sorts of parties (usually centrist establishment parties) at 30+% of the vote that get zero government/policy influence because the opposition coalition is bigger in modern European political history. That’s just how parliamentarianism works.
@@FabianAndra-pd6ks Yet, the Greens who only a minority ever supported are often included in a coalition and represented, whereas a majority is often excluded. Doesn’t sound right to me.
Bullshit, not voting for them !=against them, by that reasoning 70% of Austria is against the ÖVP and SPÖ. In reality, a potential blue black government has the biggest approval rating in Austria.
70% are not against them, I'm fairly certain most of the 26% who voted ÖVP would rather have a coalition between the ÖVP and the FPÖ instead of one between ÖVP, the SPÖ and some small party like the Greens or the Neos. That the Nehammer faction managed to dig itself into the hole of "not with Kickl" is another matter.
Exclude them from government and they will be back for more in the next election
So being anti imigration makes you far right nowadays ?
@@andrazstrmcnik2331 No, but being a racist does - Rightfully so, I might add.
Yes
Kinda sad right?
@@soundscape26sad isn‘t it?
@@Verox42Racism and nazism is something completely different
Far right? Because we don’t want Vienna to become Baghdad?
because it's more right-wing than the current right-wing party. What ? You want to call FPO centre right and die volkspartei centre left ? Die volkspartei is right, so FPO is more/far right
tell your government to leave the middle east then
@@thatoneunemployedmf 🤡🤡
Faszinierend wie manche Leute fremde Menschen fürchten. Wien ist gemischter als früher, sicher, aber was ist das Problem dabei? Richtige Integration, fast alle machen keine Probleme.
Greens "Centre Left"
Nah .. green on outside, blood red on the inside
You say that as if it was a bad thing.
@@leGUIGUIit is commie.
Green on the outside, red on the inside? Are you saying that the Greens are watermelons? 😉
The Red represents the blood on their hands
Ah yes, my father died getting the Klimabonus. I still see the mass graves from the Österreich-Ticket sometimes.😂😂
Far right meaning right...
The FPÖ was also part of the coalition government from '83 to '87. Do your research!
As an Austrian I am very happy. 😁
when you speak Russian in a few years we'll se how happy you'll be 😁
@@igrex. better than Arabic
People like you are the reason why im ashamed of being an Austrian. 😁
@@igrex. I speak Russian now. I prefer Russian to Arabic.
ich auch
It’s very encouraging to see talk of “remigration” become mainstream in Europe and parties winning elections with that kind of rhetoric. Major progress has been made, even in just the last 5 years.
Yup it turned Sweden from a safe haven to the rape capital of west Europe
Jeeeej mogration
true! we need deportations very soon, crime is exploding
Can the President really stop the FPO leader from becoming chancellor when they had the most votes though? As far as I know, presidents in Austria are a ceremonial role like the British Monarchy in the UK and Canada. They're not an actual powerful politician like Macron in France.
@giantWario Yes, the president is the only one directly voted by the people, and has more power than people think. He can also dissolve goverments and is the military commander in chief. The use of this power just wasnt necessary yet. If he doesnt order FPÖ to make a government it would be a highly undemocratic move tough
Austrian presidents aren't nearly as much a collection of mannequins as the German ones. He can refuse to swear in ministers for example.
Also, the first party forms the government is a pragmatic convention, not a hard rule. They need a majority.
@@Matko722it wouldn't though, as 71% did not vote for them.
They do not have a majority, so it is up to parties to negotiate the coalition
@@sciencefliestothemoon2305 it is because the president would break a tradition that always existed, because of personal favor.
And well you could say this of every other party too? So i dont understand the point of your statement, especially because FPÖ and ÖVP have similar party program.
@@Matko722 Tradition is not law.
You don't understand it because you confuse tradition with law.
Not really hard to explain. The "classicl" european parties are constantly getting further away from the people who pays their salaries. In some places (like this case) people see that and act accordingly and in other they choose "another round of the same stuff no matter what".
In my opinion, as an Austrian, an FPÖ and ÖVP coalition is the most likely. First, other coalitions would have to include an ÖVP/SPÖ partnership, which is highly unlikely given their current political stands, such as the SPÖ wanting to introduce a 32-hour workweek. They also prefered the FPÖ over the SPÖ in the past when it came to coalition forming. I'm also not sure if Nehammer will remain the leader of the ÖVP. Additionally, it would look pretty undemocratic if Van der Bellen didn't give the task of forming a government to the FPÖ, which would only strengthen them in the next election.
This is the least likely coalition because it would mean one of the party leaders have to step down which historically never worked.
The most likely outcome is a ÖVP-SPÖ-NEOS coalition, simple because the ÖVP/Greens have completely lost trust in each other over the recent months, especially since the EU debacle.
Exactly. Schmähammer, Karoline Edtstadler, Hanger and the rest of that lot will have to go first, and that's down to whoever pulls the strings at the ÖVP (possibly Johanna Mikl-Leitner?). The other alternative would be Germany-like coalition which will do nothing to deal with the issues we face and I predict will fall apart way before full legislature period. And then the FPÖ will get 40%, not 29% of the votes.
@@MaxiTB Yeah,but then again, I can't really see an ÖVP/SPÖ coalition consindering how they interacted with each other during and before the election. So the question is if, as you said, a ÖVP/SPÖ/NEOS coalition would work together just because they really don't want the FPÖ in government which could backfire pretty damn big imo.
@@yinzuro True, keep in mind I said most likely, not best or flawless. NEOS will push them to support reforms or they would totally bite themselves into the behind and the grand old parties will not be happy with that. So the coalition is a high risk affair, it could pay off greatly for everyone or bomb like a grand coalition without them - cause let's be honest, nothing would end up being done in another grand one.
you cant replace a people and expect them to not become radicalized. how is this surprising?????
1) learn english
2) "great replacement" really? Where that has happened lol
@@alessandramaria00 if you can honestly take a look at European demographics and not see that there is a replacement taking place then I dont think there is hope for you
@@alessandramaria00Everywhere where statistics are open.
In UK, Germany, Netherlands, Sweden. Etc
@@alessandramaria00in my home of Texas. When I was born it was 80% European white. It is now majority-plurality Hispanic
@@MinecraftLively it also used to be 100% natives before your kind ___
Good. Good times ahead for actual Europeans. Nationaliststronk.
Ahahahahahahaha, cant wait for the "we couldnt know how bad they were" arguments once these far right lunatics turn everything into shit.
70% of the population is against them and dont want them in the government. Take the L😂😂😂
I remember reading someone's comment on this channel saying "As usual TLDR gets things half right and half wrong" as if they didn't read because it was too long.
Still true to this day about this channel.
Love the content. Two minor corrections: 1. Only 2% voted for FPÖ because of Kickl. 2. And Kreisky was also called peoples chancellor, who is one of the most celebrated Austrian politicians from all sides. So that's who "others" also includes. It's just a weird thing a controversial German comedian started. Otherwise it's a short, but fair representation.
A little explanation for everyone:
Far-right: Anarcho-capitalism, stalinism (maoism, titoism ecc.), fascism and nazism (also neo-fascim and neo-nazism),
Right-wing: Minarchism (not mOnarchism), national conservatism
Centre-right: Liberal conservatism
Centre: Liberalism, christian democracy
Centre-left: Progressive social democracy
Left-Wing: Socialism, democratic socialism, eco-socialism (always progressive)
Far-Left: Communism, anarchism (anarcho-communism/anarcho-syndicalism), syndicalism.
Stalinism lol is not right wing what are you on
@@superyoism You want the short list or the long list of motivation why stalinism is right-wing?
Eeeh I wouldn't describe Stalinism or Maoism as right wing, mainly just very authoritarian with varying degrees of being centrist to left wing.
@@Chicky_Lumps the problem is linking "authoritarianism" with "left-wing"
@@silverdoctor6298 No it's not, the authoritarian-libertarian scale is not identical to the economic Left-Right scale.
You're correct if you're just talking about Marxian ideals, but Marx being "libleft" doesn't mean other people and governments didn't take on "authleft" ideals in practice.
I shall now need to take a shower and touch grass.
Either democracy ends immigration or immigration ends democracy
all bro can yapp about all day is immigration😂😂😂
"Center-left" Greens!? You have to be kidding me!!! It doesn't get much more radical! And you guys call yourself unbiased. 😂
They are radically conservative. While the KPÖ are center left (parlamentarianism and nothing revolutionary, very sad)
Who would have thought that TLDR is biased af?!
What specific policies of theirs are so radical? Was it the Austria-wide public transport pass? Fighting climate change?
@@chrisbeer5685
Enforcing speech codes which 75 % of the population oppose, supporting mass-illegal immigration and opposing any border control on a EU level, hindering the development of vital infrastructure based on erroneous environmentlism, blocking the construction of hydroplants producing clean energy, blocking the construction of disaster precautions right before a massive flood happened etc. etc.
@@shantyclips6358 What of that would you consider far left? May that be stupid? for sure. But what does this have to do with Left-wing politics (a.k.a. political ideologies that support and seek to achieve social equality and egalitarianism)? You can be center-left and for radical climate action. You can be far right and for radical climate action. Environmentalism isn't captured by the left-right schema, it's another dimension of analysis (e.g. an axis) in itself.
The absolute majority in every EU country want less migration. Politicians needs to start listening to them.
The FPÖ being a junior partner to the ÖVP, while having won more votes isnt a rare thing. Back in Schlüssel I the FPÖ under Haider also backed aside, with Haider returning to Carinthia/Kärnten and the ÖVP putting up the chancellor
Btw. I just want to say that Austria is just so lucky that everyone is always criticizing Germany. If everyone took such a close look at Austria, things would definitely be different there.
Hugs and kisses from Germany 😄
as someone who lives in austria, were cooked
Are they actually "far right" or has the Overton window shifted so much that anyone to the right of Mao Zedong is "far right"?
They are definitely far right.
@@yerst2 According to which of their policies?
@@yerst2 nein
As an Austrian, they are. Literally 2 days ago members of the party sang a SS song at a funeral and things like this happen on a regular basis
Ironically you are also calling everyone to the left of the FPO Maoist.
Keep using the "far-right" label to describe simple populist movements across Europe, like other propagandist corporate media... Clearly using that pejorative has been working! The "far-right" has never been stronger in Europe. Maybe if news channels like yours use that word enough, all the people who want change will feel ashamed! Keep it up! Using pejoratives to describe the majority of Europeans surely will be successful!!!
I don't understand why the far-right is so mad that they're called far-right. It's an objective term ffs. No one would call the FPÖ center-right, would they?
Right, this is just a movement of a concerned SS General 😂
is "far-right" even a pejorative at this point? considering we are the only ideology which is against crime and immigration
would definitely define them as far-right, considering that they
- have a strong anti-immigration stance
- use nationalist rhetoric, with emphasis on austrian identity
- have oppositions to multiculturalism
- promote xenophobic and islamophobic views
- were literally founded by a former SS officer
- their party members regularly end up in controversies regarding nazi-sympathization
Why do far-right people feel so bothered with the far-right label?
Great Britain, germany and France:
I'M STILL STANDING !!!
A FPÖ/ÖVP coalition is (sadly) not as out of the question as you make it out to be. Most Austrians (me included) think that it is the most likely outcome. And even if it somehow isn't, the FPÖ will only have more fodder (Since a OVP/SPÖ coalition will most likely not stop the inflation and we have a major middle east crisis incoming) for the next run and can really lean into the victim role.
Really sad to see that Austria is now viewed simmilar to Hungary...
Far Right loses meaning when overused. It’s crying Wolf.
These guys might be wolves.
They are. And crying wolf when there is one is just normal.
1:32
@@chrisbeer5685 You’re missing the point.
@@corriemooney9812 "youre missing the point" 🤡🤡🤡
@@chrisbeer5685 Have you read the story of the Boy who cried wolf? The point is even if this party is a wolf, the "defenders" have been whining about false wolves for so long that no one is going to believe them when they finally are right.
You guys realize that is EVERYONE is far right, no one is... Right?
The FPÖ was literally founded by ex-members of the Nazi party and SS officers
The ÖVP is definetly Right and not Centre Right like they present themself. Policy wise they are similar to the FPÖ, just more pro business and retorically they are a lot more moderate
Partys is right of ECR are definitely far right.
Fortunately it's far from being everyone.
@@dinozocker_lp1465come on stop talking nonesence övp is very much center. Under kurz not but under nehammer they are. They are pro EU pro Ukraine pro nato and quite center in the question of migration. How are they conparavlr to fpi
Ah shit... here we go again.
1:31 Just wait until you find out what most adult german men between the ages 14-40 were doing between 1935 and 1945.
Not being SS generals or commiting treason.
Quick question for the TDLR staff. Do you tie your left shoe or your far-right shoe first?
LOL TRUE
The ÖVP is right wing, FPÖ is far right.
Seems like you tried there, but your question doesn't make any sense. Anyway, the ÖVP is right-wing, and the FPÖ is far-right, obviously.
1:32
OK Austrian Politics left to right - far left KPÖ, centre left Greens and SPÖ , Centre Neons and Beer, centre right ÖVP, far right FPÖ. Make sense now? The easiest way to think about it is the parties no one wants to work with, so the KPÖ and FPÖ are "far".
May europe wake up and realize the foolishness of progressive policies
Integration is the issue, not migration. If you let people participate and don't treat them like second-class citizens, they will adapt. It is this foundational misunderstanding of the right-wing mindset that fumbles the entire crisis from "bad, but manageable" into "devastating and unfixable". A solution is staring right-wingers in their face, but they refuse to vote for it, even if the work is being done for them.
@@stammesbruder America's treating their migrants better than their citizens right now, and it not working, especially when they refuse to learn the language and dozens more show up every week, integrations sounds nice, but seems unlikely to work in practice,
Since they come illegally why would they wish to integrate? Who said they want to learn the language and learn to live as the native citizens do?
Take a look at U.K France, and Germany, where certain areas law enforcement don't dare go down, these people clearly don't want to integrate, so what do you do about them?
@@stammesbruder No mate, sometimes it really is as simple as the guests being terrible no matter what the hosts do to accommodate them. The Hyksos and the Texians and even the modern R0m-@ are all proof of this.
That is the worst possible way of pronouncing "Ibiza"
How would you suggest pronouncing it? And if you suggest pronouncing the z you are wrong
The first letzer is pronounced similar to how you say the letter "E" in english. Just ask the "Vengaboys", who's song "We're going to Ibiza" went viral in Austria when the scandal broke
its how spanish people say it, its correct
I wouldn't interpret Van der Bellen's tweet as rejecting FPÖ, rather calming worries of non-FPÖ voters (some of which are quite concerned right now )
It's a shame that you again missed a key factor in analyzing the election results - the education level of the voters. Here are some more detailed numbers from ORF's analysis.
Voters with a University degree:
ÖVP: 27%
NEOS: 19%
SPÖ: 18%
Greens: 16%
FPÖ: 15%
Voters with at least a completed high school:
ÖVP: 29%
SPÖ: 20%
NEOS: 16%
FPÖ: 16%
Greens: 12%
Voters who're currently employed, but don't have a completed high school degree:
FPÖ: 47%
ÖVP: 17%
SPÖ: 16%
NEOS: 9%
Greens: 5%
And another very worrying statistic: 45% of the the voters who cast their vote for the FPÖ believe that democracy is NOT the best form of government..
In short yet another election with a stark difference in outcome between the uneducated and the educated population. The uneducated simply don't have the necessary critical and analytical skills to understand the causes of the current mediocre state of the economy in EU and equally as important aren't capable of devising actionable solutions to the problems and thus fall for populism. Plus they tend to spend a lot of their time on social media complaining very loudly instead of using that time to think about solutions and addressing with their local MP(s)..
Yes high immigration rates are problematic (the majority of the immigration to Austria is from other EU/EEA countries though) and it's important that immigrants from outside the EU are well and quickly integrated (and that was often neglected by social-democratic parties in Western countries). But from my experience (I live in Oberbayern close to the Austrian border) many of these uneducated FPÖ voters who are "anti-immigration" in fact mean "I want Austria to leave the EU, because all these Croats, Slovenians, Romanians, Poles are taking our jobs and Germans/Bavarians are buying our houses in-mass!" equally as much as they dislike and despise "Muslims and Arabs".
So people who didn't go through left-wing indoctrination courses at universities are less likely to vote left wing? Imagine my shock!
Did this guy just call the Austrian Greens "center-left"? No wonder he thinks FPO is "far-righr"; he's completely clueless or flat out lying about everything.
Oh yes, radicalnideas like an Austria-wide public tranport pass or renaturation. That's totally the same as singing SS songs and calling for the end of constitutional human rights
Yeah, they complete mix up Austrian terminology with English one ... here we would rightfully call a party that tries to get rid of Human rights a Neo-Nazi party, they just call that conservative in Britain/US. Completely different base level to what is normal in English speaking countries. In their scale NEOS, a libertarian party, would be basically a "socialist" party if you consider their policies.
@@chrisbeer5685 A song written in 1814 ? Calling for the end constitutional rights? Butt hurt?
@@tomc642 Who cares when it was written, the Swastika is millenia old. Fact is, both are used by Nazis as Symbols.
Yes, Kickl has called for removing central parts of the Human Rights Convention from the Austrian constitution.
@inversion3492 That is, because with emotional little children you cannot have a rational conversation. At one time leftists were intellectuals, not anymore.
Aaah, leftist tears & cope, again.
“You’re far right if you disagree with globalism, also we’re the anti establishment ones even tho we agree with it on everything except for Israel-Palestine”
Nasi
@inversion3492 nah they should just shut up and let other people fix the problems in Europe, caused by losers who think like you.
Sounds like a sane analysis of the situation: FPO came first, OVP isn't happy, coalitions possible between the FPO and OVP or OVP and SPO. OVP leader dislikes FPO leader.
@inversion3492 first they came for the commies and I didn't speak out - because I was not a commie.
Then they came for the moslems and I didn't speak out - because I was not a moslem.
Then they came for the nikkas and I didn't speak out - because I was not a nikka.
Then pretty much all problems were solved so they never had to come back
"Far-right extremist" = Someone who wants Austria to remain Austrian.
Far-right extremist = any one who disagrees with far left extremist
@menk4 So? You're acting like that's something bad. Why is Israel allowed to have that and we aren't?
@@SilverWave64We weren't talking about if it's bad you explicitely said that they aren't far-right.
The fact that you seem to equate far-right with bad means you probably have no confidence in your position.
Why are you ashamed of calling yourself far-right? Own it.
Wanting an ethnostate is far right, whether you think it's bad or not.
And why are you downplaying it? The FPOe doesn't just stand against immigration, the endore nazi actions, they call themself fuehrer, why are you leaving all that out?
@SilverWave64 Israel is also an Ethnostate, which shouldn't continue its oppressing politics. Israel is critcize by the entire UN and International Courts?!
Austria remain Austria. What is that even supposed to mean. Like as if immigrants are stealing your heritage. You are still living out your life?
Center parties need to understand the current crisis NEEDS to be adressed or the people will keep voting in "extremes".
Respect your "enemies", listen to them, and listen to the problems they are pointing to. You might dislike their proposed solution, but CLEARLY, they are talking about problems the public feels are important.
No Anschluss.
So disappointed he didn't even try pronouncing the umlaut Ö.
Please send help, we're screwed, they literally sang some SS songs one day before the election at a former FPÖ politician's funeral.
whomp whomp
But it’s okay to sing the communist Internationale.
Did they also sing a song by Gigi D'Agostino?
i don't think so, lol
You should move to canada or usa where communism is in full swing, lemme know after how you like it
Say the vowel "Ö", it´s not that hard.
It´s ÖVP, not OVP. It´s FPÖ, not FPO. It´s SPÖ, not SPO.
This sound doesn’t exist in English. You’re watching a video from a Brit so expect that pronunciation. Should you wish to hear a proper “Ö,” watch a German language video
@@gsiff4422 Except it does. Pronounce "Bird". The "i" in Bird is almost exactly how Ö is pronounced
Kurz not Kurtz at 5:44
Also I would wish for a Spö (without Babler) and Fpö (maybe without kickl and rather with Doskozil)
They’re so happy with their 29%
Auslander Raus
Based.
*Ausländer
@@abcdeabcde4877yes on reality lol
cringe
Muslims out nobody has a problem with other eu citizens even if technically they are auslaenders
This is the best news this year. I hope they’ll win more than 51% next election!
Haha never, most austrians despise these far right lunatics!
Another Huge win for europeans
most mentally stable fascist
@@lightningstrike5024Most mentally stable socialist
@@NicolasHaufe mf said the greens of all people had blood on their hands. From what? you putting them under the guillotine?
@@lightningstrike5024 mentally challenged fake leftists
Europeans being anyone you agree with? I'm irish and the far right party here (the national party) is clinically insane to the point where I'd rather leave for America then stay in ireland under a government led by them, the far right is terrible.
Our economy is facing challenges due to uncertainties, housing issues, foreclosures, global fluctuations, and the lingering effects of the pandemic, all contributing to instability. With rising inflation, slow economic growth, and trade disruptions, it's crucial for all sectors to take immediate action to restore stability and promote growth.
In particular, amid inflation, investors should exercise caution when it comes to their exposure and new purchases. It is only feasible to get such high yields during a recession with the guidance of a qualified specialist or reliable counsel.
How can I reach this adviser of yours? because I'm seeking for a more effective investment approach on my savings
3:02 that is not the correct pronunciation of Ibiza, it is not pronounced ai-bi-za, according to Spanish and Catalan pronunciation rules. Ee-bee-tha is the pronunciation according to an English pronunciation rules if there are any rules.
why all right is far right
Because everyone who disagrees with you is a nazi, obviously
ÖVP is right. If you sing SS slogans among literally hundreds of similar incidents, you're far-right.
@@chrisbeer5685 but SS were socialist
1:32
@@chrisbeer5685 I'd argue the ÖVP has shifted towards the far-right over the past decade. One of their members openly stated that they are "like the FPÖ, but with actual solutions".
Common sense is Far right, not supporting terrorists is Far right, protecting your country is Far right.
Right wing politicians were right so far
Nope, singing SS songs is far right, being founded by an SS General and traitor is far right, conciously using Nazi symbols and rhetorik ("Volkskanzler", "Sytemparteien", "Lügenpresse") to attract Nazis is far right.
>Supporting Putin is far right.
Or are Ukranians terrorists?
@@chrisbeer5685ok gaybo
@@galaxyred7 What a convincing argument.
@@chrisbeer5685 has no argument because knows that he is wrong
Unbiased my ass
Facts don't care about your feelings.
@@chrisbeer5685oh yeah Typical leftist having a miserable life and things like this make you happy 🤣
@@chrisbeer5685 ok shlomo
@@chrisbeer5685facts weren't spoken.
Only falsehoods.
@@kingofcards9 you can pretend anything you want if you just claim anyone disagreeing with you is lying with no evidence
What to expect from a country where one of the presidents in the 80s was an ex-SS officer who spent a lot of time in the Balkans (I wonder what he was doing there, it's not like that place was one of the most brutal when it came to ethnic cleansing in WW2, right?). Maybe chronically not dealing with your past is a ticking time bomb, which was going to explode soon. What a shame. It is a beautiful country that I am in love with, the landscape, the culture, architecture, the amazing mountains... the list goes on and on. The place looks like a paradise, for crying out loud. But the demons had to come out full force at some point. It was inevitable.
We got a new fascist country before GTA 6💀🙏🏻
"Far" right?
Why is all right "Far right", but nothing on the left, no matter how extreme is "far left"?
The channels bias is showing.
THIS PARTY WAS FOUNDED BY LITERAL NAZIS FFS !
How do you define Far Left? Many confuse Social Democracy with Socialism-Communism and claim its far let, but its certainly not. We could discuss if German "Die Linke" is at least in parts far Left. But its not a noteworthy Party anymore.
The FPÖ is right of Reform.
The party was founded by a Nazi, and is in constant contact with Nazis.
Jeez some of them sang the SS hymn on a funeral a couple of days ago
Because the Parties that are far left didn't make it into parlament, simple as that. Theys only got ~3,5% between them instead.
SPÖ is social democratic at the beast, so centre-left.
Meanwhile the "not far-right" members of FPÖ sang a nazi song
29% of my fellow austrians have the memory of a goldfish...
@@sirxander5420
Says the guy who probably doesn't even show interest in history. 😂
every commited FPÖ voter I met in my life had the prudence and profundity of a hate-filled hyena with a fentanyl addiction.
Sad but true
Wanting slightly less immigration - automatically a Hitlerist lol
The capital Vienna has become a litteral battleground for rival Afghan and Chechen gangs (google it). Maybe 29% of Austrians just dont want all of Austria to become like that. 🤔🤔
As an Austrian Citizen I am nothing less then deeply ashamed.
Yeah I’d be ashamed too, if over 70% of my country voted for their own destruction
It’s hilarious all the people in these comments like their Austria is not a weak nation with no defense. These are the same Austrians that demand to be protected because of their “neutrality” by NATO, free trade while they’re protectionist, and EU subsides. This is the Orban mindset that doesn’t live in geopolitical reality, tourism to Vienna is not gonna save Austria from those consequences. I never really understood how these types of parties never understood immigration is a domestic issue, and if it is international based on a flow from example North Africa then you have to give concessions to those countries to help you stem the flow like Spain recognizes Morocco’s claim on Western Sahara
3:00 Not knowing and not bothering to check how Ibiza is pronounced makes the video's content seem less well researched than it is...
Pretty difficult to pronounce everything correctly on a Europe-wide news show. Ibiza was like the least important thing they mispronounced here. It's not like they said any of their Ö-s correctly.
They do habitually make actual factual errors though, so it's definitely something to look out for.