@@ManCaverTools For your education David. Flagship - FX1271T-1H Turbo Hammer Mid Tier - FX1171T-2B Turbo Drill Low Tier - FX1251-2A Hammer Drill Entry - FX1151-2A Drill Perhaps this might help, I did all the research for you in the hopes you quit spreading misinformation.
I have the DCD805 (the hammer drill version of the DCD800), and that thing is a beast. The size reduction alone had me sold. Still keep my DCD999 around in case I need that extra power. But so much power in such a small form factor makes DeWalt’s new drill more than worth the cost.
To whom it may concern: Makita XFD13 with 3ah battery and charger was on sale at $70, in-store, two years in a row at my local Home Depot. Also, the XFD12Z is more comparable to these other drills. I own the XFD12 & 13, XPH07 & 14, DeWalt DCD800. The XFD13 is my preferred drill most of the time and it's my "around the house" drill because it's so light, compact and comfortable. The DeWalt lives on my work truck (as well with other DeWalt tools) because it's so powerful for such a small footprint, but it's not as nice to use as any of the Makitas.
Makita DDF485 / XFD 131 is not heavy duty, and reach only 25 Nm soft torque in speed 1 - like the newer DDF 487/ XFD 15. Makita DDF 484/XFD 12 is pretty heavy, not compact, and slips even in drill mode. More apropiate would be DDF 480 / XFD 061 brushless and the one before DDF 456 with brushes but heavy duty, all 36 Nm soft torque in speed 1 like Hilti SF4 A22, but @ lower RPM on Makita, and all discontinued. There is also the crapy DDF 482 / XFD 10 with brushess that has higher RPM but it's not heavy duty.
Well done informative video . Flex is good but to big and heavy and the batteries are to bulky. Dewalt crazy powerful and light and compact especially with the 5 amp battery. Yellow and black for me.
@@ManCaverTools Makita DDF485 (XFD131) size-wise is in the semi-compact category, but not in the powerful compact category, and right now Makita doesn't have a powerful compact. Funny enough, this compact DDF 485 (XFD131) has same 25 Nm soft torque in speed one as the sub-compact DDF487 ( XFD15), but the sub-compact DDF487(XFD15) has more soft torque in speed 2, coz' of the RPM diference, 1700/500 for the subcompact vs 1900/500 for the compact, so 7.35 Nm for the subcompact vs 6.57Nm for the compact. The closeest Makita was - more then a decade ago DDF456(XFD01) with brushes @ 2Ah compact, 36 Nm soft torque in speed 1@400RPM, 9.6 Nm in speed 2@ 1500 RPM, 1,53 Kg @ 2Ah compact, 300W motor with brushes. The brushless model that replaced that was wey worse - DDF480 (XFD06) was wey-wey noisyer - so much so that I started to hate some brushless, bulkyer, wey heavyer, not just 10 grams but because it has 360W motor plus pretty close driver losses ~ 20% in adition to those 360W - so draw more amps and needs the 5Ah pack so 1.794 Kg..., has same soft 36Nm in speed one but less torque in speed 2 coz' it has 50 RPM more in speed 2 (1550) and same 400 RPM in speed 1, and is less reliable and the parts are more expensive... Next DDF 484 (XFD12) is even heavyer, and DDF 482 ( XFD10 ) is a crapy one, not coz' it has brushes, but coz' it has crapyer parts @ higher RPM... The ex compact brushless DDF459 (XFD05 or something like that, LXPH05 fot DHP459) was even wey worse, absurdly bad trigger control, etc.
Ya DeWALT is making some amazing tools lately, they have the best impact wrenches on the market right now, smaller stronger and more features than Milwaukee
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@@loochan325 Great info man, you work in Makita development or where do you get the info about motors and torque?
The kit that comes with the DCF850 and the DCD805 with 2x 4AH batteries seems like the true successor to the kit that had DCD796 + DCF887 and 2x 2AH batteries that I bought back in 2018. Honestly DCF845 was not a good successor to DCF887. I really believe that belongs to DCF850 due to reduced size and slightly increased power.
Was an entertaining vid, now we know who's got power. Would be interesting to know the build quality/precision of each. Simple run off test on each chuck would give some insight. Great format, thanks for the entertainment.
justing build quality is something I can't legitimately do. unfortunately. I dont have enough experience with that to tell is some thing is good or bad and what situations they would be best at.
your tool collection is superb. You deserve your 67k subs man. keep it up and you will crack that 100k. If you invested in a torque dyno equipment, i bet you would get a lot more views a lot faster.
The new Kobalt drill driver has 850 in/lbs of torque and 2000 max rpm. Comes with a handle to prevent anti kickback, reversible belt clips (unlike the flex, but I heard some of them do have them reversible), metal chuck, and it is only 6-5/8 in length front to back. Design looks a lot like the new Dewalt DCD800 than its cousin Flex. The handle is redesigned to look like the XTR, but this is not part of the XTR line up.
How bout Metabo HPT, Dave bro? Ive a few lying around, Ima can send you one? Looking good on this ‘newer format!’ I’d say this was a good and representative test, and I’m glad that stinkin Flux didn’t win! Makita is the sleepy Joe of the bunch, but is still a good all round homeowner/ light tradesman drill. 👍 👍 👍 ✌
@@ManCaverTools Dave Brah Metabo HPT has that promotion thing going whereby get a tool, get a battery free! You might check into it? You want I send you one of my spares? I have extra 1P 3.0 Ah, and MultiVolt 2.5 Ah/ 5.0 Ah batteries. Liking the ‘look’ and presentation of your channel. You've come a long way dude! Peace
The lil flex has high rpm and good power and its small I have the dcd800 and the compact flex and they go back and forth the dewalt with the powerstack is awesome so light I pair this drill with the dcd840 with powerstack I can work overhead all day
You don’t need to get the Hammer Drill to have the Turbo. There are two mid tier Flex Drill Drivers, with and without Turbo. People like this UA-camr know such things and purposely misinform so as to make their brands look better… except nothing can make Hilti look better, and Ryobi will never compete with Ego… Both Brands own by Chervon..
@@athannaelanderson3806 do you have the model number on the mid tier flex with turbo mode. I know that they have a drill driver version of their top tier drill that has same torque and speed specs as the hammer drill but I believe this model is the one that has about half the torque and 300 less rpm’s.
@@TinkerWithToolsOf course Brother. Flagship - FX1271T-1H Turbo Hammer Mid Tier - FX1171T-2B Turbo Drill Low Tier - FX1251-2A Hammer Drill Entry - FX1151-2A Drill All Flex Drills and model numbers as accordingly, the only one I left out is the old flagship with the old batteries. Currently only Flagship comes with the option for Stacked Lithium.
Each brand has a premium drill driver and hammer drill of equal specs i. e Makita XFD14 & XPH 14. Both have equal specs except the latter is a hammer drill
Like many cars today, drills have more than enough power if power was the deciding factor americas cars would outsell every other brand. Actually they’re third after europan and japanese cars. The same applies here, at your store, spend time with the tool, after some minutes see how you feel-This way impulse isn a factor From here, makita s light weight makes it most desirable. If there’s anything it can’t do obviously grab your impact!
This seems like a weird match up. That Makita is in a completely different class than the other brands. HD has it in a kit for $119 right now with the bigger 4ah battery. I picked up an XPH14 bare tool with free promo 2ah battery last summer for $150.
@@ManCaverTools Well...I have to agree with this guy, although he suggested the wrong makita. Im not saying it would have won but to make it a fair comparison you should have used the makita Makita XFD12Z. That is NOT a hammer drill and in the same class as the other's shown. m.media-amazon.com/images/W/WEBP_402378-T1/images/S/aplus-media/vc/2150d74a-f05b-4560-8d0e-1da911a589ee._SR285,285_.jpg
1. Makita used is like half the price of other tools bare, not a direct comparison 2. They actually do have mid tier 40v model, 60nm rated. That one would be interested to test, and it costs similar to other drills in this video
That poor makita..It even looks cheaper. Flex would have did that big hole in speed 2 if you didn't push so hard 7:50. You said battery on the makita, 5.0 was full, but I see a bar missing. Oops. 10:06
i wonder is it worthy to upgrade to a stud drill instead of these smaller drill because ive lost mine, the stud drill can cover more heavier usage compare to these.
@@ManCaverTools oh thank you David! Could you please do a top of line drill comparison? I have the gen 3 m18 drill but also picked up the XGT 40v recently. They both seems very close in performance. But I don’t do any heavy duty work just mostly wood work, so it’s good to see you guys put these tools to the test! Thanks !
Has Makita got a MID tier drill in 40 volt range ? I just checked ,only XGT drill driver available is top tiered 141nm model which is not fair to compare with these drills.
The 40V isn't a good comparison, but neither is the model he tested. The XFD14T is more on par with the higher torque drill drivers. He tested a lower tiered model
There's no wonder DCD800 has more torque in speed two. It's spect 34 Nm soft torque, and that's in speed one @ very high 650 RPM, so having 2000 RPM in speed 2 we have 11.05 Nm soft torque in speed 2. Forget about 90 Nm hard torque - that is also only in speed 2, from hard stop in shock from max RPM with small load, from inertia, momentum and kinetic energy in relation with the speed squared, and is "good" to break screws and the stuff you work on. Hilti SF 4 A22 has 36 Nm in speed 2, but 2100/610 RPM so 10.45 Nm in speed 2.
@@ManCaverTools I remember 16 years ago (2006) or even 12 years ago for some, that people were happy to have 11 Nm even in speed 1, or on some B&D made in England with only one speed gear... In 2008 ( 14 years ago...) I bough a Makita 6270D with 12V@ 2Ah NiCd spect 20 Nm soft, 30 Hard, and I was so ahead of those with screamers B&D... :) My 6270D was in a kit with HR2450 rotary hammer. Although I am very happy with both, or precisely because of this, since then I increased my tool collection so much so that I need a bigger home...
these were regular drill drivers. and their pretty the same size. Each brand has different variants of a drill driver. this video was against these ones.
Hello I need your help, I bought a 4A 20V Deolt battery It has a qrcod on it when scanning it, it took me to the Deault website, but it gave me that the product is not available Does this mean that the product is original to me or what
Hey man, commenting from England, im not even sure if we will get the same range of tools as you do. But could you tell me what the top of the range combi drill in Makita, Milwaukee, Dewalt and Hilti are? I do predominantly light metal work..
Forgot to use the stacked lithium. Yes it’s an unfair advantage but FLEX we’re the ones to drop the pouch cells first. Dewalt dropped the powerstack to the public first however FLEX /CHERVON had the pouch cells long before that.
Milwaukee is in the separate chinesium category, being a chinese brand bought 17 years ago in 2005 by TTI from HK China alongside AEG/Ridgid, Ryobi and others.
HERE'S a little trivia for you , on the original Flex promotional video, the Flex 1151 the same as in this video beat the gen 3 Milwaukee top tier drill !!!!
Milwaukee will be in a different combination. I have an additional 7 other drill to test out. having 11 drills doing these in 1 video would be insane to edit lol. that video is coming soon
that would deffinetly make a change, but the other drills have better variants as well. Hilti has the Nuron version, Flex has the turbo version. and this Dewalt is just 1 of the XR Models.
@@ManCaverTools The Hilti Nuron will a better result maybe but the Flex Turbo i don't thinh it in this stage the Makita xdf12 is in the same Stage as the dcd708/791
Why no turbo????? Flex Turbo Hammer Drill Driver is a thing…. You don’t need to get the hammer function to get turbo…. That’s the lowest possible Flex you can purchase….
What’s the point of doing all these tests if your going recommend one because it comes with a handle? It’s a drill driver test isn’t it? I have little biases I just shopping for one, only looking for info-having a handle would sway me to buy one over another! That gets you thumbs down!!!😮
It’s not “The Makita”. You chose an offering from Makita that can’t compete. If you want to say “The Makita” use the proper tool that’s made to compete in this category, the XGT 40v Makita.
the other tool brands have better drill drivers as well. Hilti does more Flex has more and Dewalt does. Dewatl has a few XR models. this video was. about these 4 models
They should have used the next tier drill in the 18 volt line. The one they used is the low level brushless, when they have another brushless 18 volt with the metal chuck, and high ratings.
The 40V model isn't a good comparison, but neither is the one he used. The XFD14T is closer model in their line. He chose to compare a lower tiered drill driver
Great video David
I thank you Logan. You were there since the beginning and I thank you for helping me make the channel better bro. I truly am grateful bro :)
@@ManCaverTools you’ve come soo far since when you started. 😁😁
@@ManCaverTools For your education David.
Flagship - FX1271T-1H Turbo Hammer
Mid Tier - FX1171T-2B Turbo Drill
Low Tier - FX1251-2A Hammer Drill
Entry - FX1151-2A Drill
Perhaps this might help, I did all the research for you in the hopes you quit spreading misinformation.
@@ManCaverToolsHey buddy ,can you please do a test of the Dewalt dcd 805/ 800 against the Dewalt dcd 999 ?
@@athannaelanderson3806The 1151 beat the top tier Milwaukee gen 3 in the promo video.
I have the DCD805 (the hammer drill version of the DCD800), and that thing is a beast. The size reduction alone had me sold. Still keep my DCD999 around in case I need that extra power. But so much power in such a small form factor makes DeWalt’s new drill more than worth the cost.
it really is a great tool
To whom it may concern: Makita XFD13 with 3ah battery and charger was on sale at $70, in-store, two years in a row at my local Home Depot. Also, the XFD12Z is more comparable to these other drills. I own the XFD12 & 13, XPH07 & 14, DeWalt DCD800. The XFD13 is my preferred drill most of the time and it's my "around the house" drill because it's so light, compact and comfortable. The DeWalt lives on my work truck (as well with other DeWalt tools) because it's so powerful for such a small footprint, but it's not as nice to use as any of the Makitas.
Makita DDF485 / XFD 131 is not heavy duty, and reach only 25 Nm soft torque in speed 1 - like the newer DDF 487/ XFD 15. Makita DDF 484/XFD 12 is pretty heavy, not compact, and slips even in drill mode. More apropiate would be DDF 480 / XFD 061 brushless and the one before DDF 456 with brushes but heavy duty, all 36 Nm soft torque in speed 1 like Hilti SF4 A22, but @ lower RPM on Makita, and all discontinued. There is also the crapy DDF 482 / XFD 10 with brushess that has higher RPM but it's not heavy duty.
Dude!!! Love this new format!!!! REALLY GOOD VID!!! 👍 It's good to see the evolution in your work, always to do it better!!
I seriously thank you Luisriver11. it really means a lot me :)
You do the best tool test! That new dewalt drill makes me proud to be a dewalt owner lol finally making new tools that are worth purchasing
I have that dewalt drill. It’s a beast, I was drilling through ROCKS in my backyard with a 35mm diamond drill bit
Do you have _this_ drill which is the DCD800 or do you have the DCD805 Hammer Drill version?
In All the years I've been watching you Dave this was my absolute favorite video of all time seriously you nailed it bro 🙌 👏 👌 ❤
I thank you so much Branden, this is a normal video now. I learned that I can only upload versus videos. that is what the algorithm expects me to lol
@@ManCaverTools well you do a great job at it buddy 👏 👍 I can't wait to see gen 2 vs gen3
Well done informative video .
Flex is good but to big and heavy and the batteries are to bulky.
Dewalt crazy powerful and light and compact especially with the 5 amp battery. Yellow and black for me.
you are correct but the makita was the lightest one out of the bunch but lacking is power in this model
@@ManCaverTools Makita DDF485 (XFD131) size-wise is in the semi-compact category, but not in the powerful compact category, and right now Makita doesn't have a powerful compact. Funny enough, this compact DDF 485 (XFD131) has same 25 Nm soft torque in speed one as the sub-compact DDF487 ( XFD15), but the sub-compact DDF487(XFD15) has more soft torque in speed 2, coz' of the RPM diference, 1700/500 for the subcompact vs 1900/500 for the compact, so 7.35 Nm for the subcompact vs 6.57Nm for the compact. The closeest Makita was - more then a decade ago DDF456(XFD01) with brushes @ 2Ah compact, 36 Nm soft torque in speed 1@400RPM, 9.6 Nm in speed 2@ 1500 RPM, 1,53 Kg @ 2Ah compact, 300W motor with brushes. The brushless model that replaced that was wey worse - DDF480 (XFD06) was wey-wey noisyer - so much so that I started to hate some brushless, bulkyer, wey heavyer, not just 10 grams but because it has 360W motor plus pretty close driver losses ~ 20% in adition to those 360W - so draw more amps and needs the 5Ah pack so 1.794 Kg..., has same soft 36Nm in speed one but less torque in speed 2 coz' it has 50 RPM more in speed 2 (1550) and same 400 RPM in speed 1, and is less reliable and the parts are more expensive... Next DDF 484 (XFD12) is even heavyer, and DDF 482 ( XFD10 ) is a crapy one, not coz' it has brushes, but coz' it has crapyer parts @ higher RPM... The ex compact brushless DDF459 (XFD05 or something like that, LXPH05 fot DHP459) was even wey worse, absurdly bad trigger control, etc.
Ya DeWALT is making some amazing tools lately, they have the best impact wrenches on the market right now, smaller stronger and more features than Milwaukee
@@loochan325 Great info man, you work in Makita development or where do you get the info about motors and torque?
Love the DCD805…
DeWalt's new name this year is the Come Back Kid!
lol
That DEWALT is beast for its size and yes it’s a atomic with XR badge.
I wanna look into that, see if they did take it over lol.
I love my ATOMIC but not been available in OZ for awhile now ,glad I grabbed mine 2 years ago.
The kit that comes with the DCF850 and the DCD805 with 2x 4AH batteries seems like the true successor to the kit that had DCD796 + DCF887 and 2x 2AH batteries that I bought back in 2018. Honestly DCF845 was not a good successor to DCF887. I really believe that belongs to DCF850 due to reduced size and slightly increased power.
Great job on the new testing format very professional!
I thank you King
DeWalt is the best value for money. I love yellow tools💪💪💪. Regards from Poland🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱
Nice test, lots of power for the size,,I'm impressed
Was an entertaining vid, now we know who's got power. Would be interesting to know the build quality/precision of each. Simple run off test on each chuck would give some insight. Great format, thanks for the entertainment.
justing build quality is something I can't legitimately do. unfortunately. I dont have enough experience with that to tell is some thing is good or bad and what situations they would be best at.
your tool collection is superb.
You deserve your 67k subs man. keep it up and you will crack that 100k.
If you invested in a torque dyno equipment, i bet you would get a lot more views a lot faster.
I think this new mid dewalt drill weighs nearly milwaukee 2704, the mid drills get bigger and more powerful
Great video brother. That DeWalt shocked me, in good way.
The new Kobalt drill driver has 850 in/lbs of torque and 2000 max rpm. Comes with a handle to prevent anti kickback, reversible belt clips (unlike the flex, but I heard some of them do have them reversible), metal chuck, and it is only 6-5/8 in length front to back. Design looks a lot like the new Dewalt DCD800 than its cousin Flex. The handle is redesigned to look like the XTR, but this is not part of the XTR line up.
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How bout Metabo HPT, Dave bro? Ive a few lying around, Ima can send you one? Looking good on this ‘newer format!’ I’d say this was a good and representative test, and I’m glad that stinkin Flux didn’t win!
Makita is the sleepy Joe of the bunch, but is still a good all round homeowner/ light tradesman drill.
👍 👍 👍 ✌
I need more batteries for my Metabo tools.
@@ManCaverTools Dave Brah
Metabo HPT has that promotion thing going whereby get a tool, get a battery free! You might check into it? You want I send you one of my spares? I have extra 1P 3.0 Ah, and MultiVolt 2.5 Ah/ 5.0 Ah batteries. Liking the ‘look’ and presentation of your channel. You've come a long way dude! Peace
The DeWalt gets my vote but in fairness, i haven't tried that flex, just the bigger turbo one.
The lil flex has high rpm and good power and its small I have the dcd800 and the compact flex and they go back and forth the dewalt with the powerstack is awesome so light I pair this drill with the dcd840 with powerstack I can work overhead all day
You don’t need to get the Hammer Drill to have the Turbo. There are two mid tier Flex Drill Drivers, with and without Turbo. People like this UA-camr know such things and purposely misinform so as to make their brands look better… except nothing can make Hilti look better, and Ryobi will never compete with Ego… Both Brands own by Chervon..
@@athannaelanderson3806 do you have the model number on the mid tier flex with turbo mode. I know that they have a drill driver version of their top tier drill that has same torque and speed specs as the hammer drill but I believe this model is the one that has about half the torque and 300 less rpm’s.
@@TinkerWithToolsOf course Brother.
Flagship - FX1271T-1H Turbo Hammer
Mid Tier - FX1171T-2B Turbo Drill
Low Tier - FX1251-2A Hammer Drill
Entry - FX1151-2A Drill
All Flex Drills and model numbers as accordingly, the only one I left out is the old flagship with the old batteries. Currently only Flagship comes with the option for Stacked Lithium.
@@TinkerWithTools they also sell a standard hammer drill as well with no turbo. It’s all in my list ☝️
I'm hoping to see the new Bosch GSB 1330 to see how it compares to the other brands
I definitely need to get more Bosch tools
Each brand has a premium drill driver and hammer drill of equal specs i. e Makita XFD14 & XPH 14. Both have equal specs except the latter is a hammer drill
that is correct sir, along with reciprocating and impacts
Incorrect… Flex has a Turbo and Non-Turbo Mid Tier Drill Driver…. As well as a Turbo Hammer Drill… not every brand follows the same trends like a 🐑
Like many cars today, drills have more than enough power
if power was the deciding factor americas cars would outsell every other brand. Actually they’re third after europan and japanese cars.
The same applies here, at your store, spend time with the tool, after some minutes see how you feel-This way impulse isn a factor
From here, makita s light weight makes it most desirable. If there’s anything it can’t do obviously grab your impact!
that is why they have many brands to choose from :)
Why use the 99 $ drill kit from Makita I’ve got 79$ in one 3 amh batterie and the slow charger
that is a goo deal when it comes to holiday deals. those are coming soon :) they better have some darn good deals this year
Flex is the true winner here.
This seems like a weird match up. That Makita is in a completely different class than the other brands. HD has it in a kit for $119 right now with the bigger 4ah battery. I picked up an XPH14 bare tool with free promo 2ah battery last summer for $150.
the XPH14 is a hammer drill, that is a completely different tool then these are
@@ManCaverTools Well...I have to agree with this guy, although he suggested the wrong makita. Im not saying it would have won but to make it a fair comparison you should have used the makita Makita XFD12Z. That is NOT a hammer drill and in the same class as the other's shown.
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@@ManCaverTools the only different is the hammer and your not using it
"If tool weight is a factor in your purchase..." Methinks you're a fellow Project Farm fan 😂
its actually a good proper way to say it.
@@ManCaverTools No doubt. Nothing wrong with borrowing from the best either. Take the good and improve on the bad.
Good tests. I feel as though you've been watching some ProjectFarm vids! This video style has his style all over it!
Project farm is a really good channel.the best there is.
1. Makita used is like half the price of other tools bare, not a direct comparison
2. They actually do have mid tier 40v model, 60nm rated. That one would be interested to test, and it costs similar to other drills in this video
I see "used once" and even brand new unopened DeWalt tools for half their retail price all the time, like on Mercari or eBay.
I'd choose DeWALT, you can adjust the light and it stays on 20 min
that is a nice feature. and I love the 20 min work light option
@@ManCaverTools I love all the new tools from DeWALT, they really stepped it up from all their previous models
Great test..
Great video as always! Really excited to see that new Dewalt against the competition.
I thank you Eric
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That poor makita..It even looks cheaper. Flex would have did that big hole in speed 2 if you didn't push so hard 7:50. You said battery on the makita, 5.0 was full, but I see a bar missing. Oops. 10:06
im only human, even the bigger channels make mistakes.
Hey David have you done any reviews on the Metabo line of tools? Can’t remember ever seeing any reviews on that brand Thx
It would be great if you gave the model # of the drills.
I think I put them in the video
i wonder is it worthy to upgrade to a stud drill instead of these smaller drill because ive lost mine, the stud drill can cover more heavier usage compare to these.
might not be a bad idea to look into that, though size would be a big difference
Great video Dave!
Which one felt the smoothest and most comfy in the hand?
The HILTI did felt the smoothest
Wait wait….you didn’t use the XGT…please do the test with Makita XGT 40v!
Thanks you!
this video of of these drill, these other brands have different variants of a drill driver as well
@@ManCaverTools oh thank you David! Could you please do a top of line drill comparison? I have the gen 3 m18 drill but also picked up the XGT 40v recently. They both seems very close in performance. But I don’t do any heavy duty work just mostly wood work, so it’s good to see you guys put these tools to the test!
Thanks !
Has Makita got a MID tier drill in 40 volt range ? I just checked ,only XGT drill driver available is top tiered 141nm model which is not fair to compare with these drills.
I do want to get the makita 40v line. I just having got any of them yet.
The 40V isn't a good comparison, but neither is the model he tested. The XFD14T is more on par with the higher torque drill drivers. He tested a lower tiered model
Guy presses the hilti twice for the light test wow🤣
no, for filming I need to reposition these so the light is on while the tool is facing the camera
Project farm would be proud!
Cool Dave
Great comparison video! Did I hear you say the DeWalt light goes for 20 minutes? Your clock showed just over 12 minutes.
It has a three way switch for different modes.
His clock was for 12 seconds.
Cool video bro, great job!
I thank you Jeff
There's no wonder DCD800 has more torque in speed two. It's spect 34 Nm soft torque, and that's in speed one @ very high 650 RPM, so having 2000 RPM in speed 2 we have 11.05 Nm soft torque in speed 2. Forget about 90 Nm hard torque - that is also only in speed 2, from hard stop in shock from max RPM with small load, from inertia, momentum and kinetic energy in relation with the speed squared, and is "good" to break screws and the stuff you work on. Hilti SF 4 A22 has 36 Nm in speed 2, but 2100/610 RPM so 10.45 Nm in speed 2.
it is a worthy compact drill for sure
Ya lost me dude
@@interman7715 11 Nm soft torque ( DCD 800 in speed 2) = 1.121687834 kgf on a 1m long lever, or 5.608+ Kgf on a 20 cm ( 8") lever.
you were talking about specs of the motor with both speeds. I said it is a good tool because it has the power it has for the actual size of the tool.
@@ManCaverTools I remember 16 years ago (2006) or even 12 years ago for some, that people were happy to have 11 Nm even in speed 1, or on some B&D made in England with only one speed gear... In 2008 ( 14 years ago...) I bough a Makita 6270D with 12V@ 2Ah NiCd spect 20 Nm soft, 30 Hard, and I was so ahead of those with screamers B&D... :) My 6270D was in a kit with HR2450 rotary hammer. Although I am very happy with both, or precisely because of this, since then I increased my tool collection so much so that I need a bigger home...
Dave was this a battle of the basic brushless models? Just wondering why the Flex Turbo wasn’t used.
these were regular drill drivers. and their pretty the same size. Each brand has different variants of a drill driver. this video was against these ones.
@@ManCaverTools great video. This video would lean me towards the DeWalt with its smaller size.
@@ManCaverTools also do you plan to test the new brushless Hercules models coming out?
Hello
I need your help, I bought a 4A 20V Deolt battery
It has a qrcod on it when scanning it, it took me to the Deault website, but it gave me that the product is not available
Does this mean that the product is original to me or what
Hey man, commenting from England, im not even sure if we will get the same range of tools as you do. But could you tell me what the top of the range combi drill in Makita, Milwaukee, Dewalt and Hilti are? I do predominantly light metal work..
milwaukee fuel gen 4 and dewalt dcd999. not sure about the other brands.
How did you dare to have a dewalt comparison without its nemesis Milwaukee 😁
Forgot to use the stacked lithium. Yes it’s an unfair advantage but FLEX we’re the ones to drop the pouch cells first. Dewalt dropped the powerstack to the public first however FLEX /CHERVON had the pouch cells long before that.
those will be in a different video.
Dewalt had the pouch technology first flex has to pay Dewalt for use
I really had high hopes for the Makita drill. I was let down😭
I did as well. I was hoping all of them would be pretty close.
They have a higher up 18 volt drill. This one is the low tier brushless drill.
This a lower tier Makita model. The XDF14 is the more comparable model.
@@ccbowers We really are just a bunch of tool nerd in here hu? lol
Were is milwaukee
Milwaukee will be in a different combination. I have an additional 7 other drills to test out as well.
Milwaukee is in the separate chinesium category, being a chinese brand bought 17 years ago in 2005 by TTI from HK China alongside AEG/Ridgid, Ryobi and others.
@@loochan325 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Milwaukee is in China located at TTI
Am really surprised by the DeWalt drill
I am too.
What adapteur chainsaw is that do you have a link
I will put it in the description :)
HERE'S a little trivia for you , on the original Flex promotional video, the Flex 1151 the same as in this video beat the gen 3 Milwaukee top tier drill !!!!
dewalt is nice
MAKITA FOREVER ♾️🫵💪☝️🤘✌️👌
Why no milwaukee?? :c (great video tho)
Milwaukee will be in a different video with other drill driver
@@ManCaverTools Awesome, I can't wait to watch! Thanks
For once, a power tool reviewer actually called out the model #. Many do not.Thanks
you are welcome inspector mills
Where’s Milwaukee?
Milwaukee will be in a different combination. I have an additional 7 other drill to test out. having 11 drills doing these in 1 video would be insane to edit lol. that video is coming soon
Chinese brand Milwaukee?
👍
Uhm i don't know how the result if change the Makita in video into the Makita Xfd12
that would deffinetly make a change, but the other drills have better variants as well. Hilti has the Nuron version, Flex has the turbo version. and this Dewalt is just 1 of the XR Models.
@@ManCaverTools The Hilti Nuron will a better result maybe but the Flex Turbo i don't thinh it in this stage the Makita xdf12 is in the same Stage as the dcd708/791
once I get those tools I will be doing a versus video on them :)
Where do I get that chainsaw attachment?
I got it from amazon. I looked up drill attachments on amazon.www.amazon.com/dp/B0B2PGM6KQ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
What kind of sockets are those? I could use some stubbys like that.
they are Husky low pro sockets. $31 at Home Depot
Dewalt series dcd????
that is correct
What is this adaptor for shaw for drills?
Don't like ridgid much do ya?
It's look like the Makita 5ah battery has 3 bars of battery life.
А у меня есть DeWalt dcd 800.
Makita lives in last place. Milwaukee is the best so they decided not to participate 🤣
Tool sound was a little too loud while you were talking. Everything else was great
I thought the same thing. I should have tuned them down more
Where was the Ridgid?
Ridgid will be in a different drill combination video I have 7 other drills to test out
@@ManCaverTools alright
DeWalt dcd805 100%
im not complain, and in my opinion dewalt whas the best!
Dewalt did win and it is very powerful, it would have been nice if they all had a handle.
Why no turbo????? Flex Turbo Hammer Drill Driver is a thing…. You don’t need to get the hammer function to get turbo…. That’s the lowest possible Flex you can purchase….
You didn't get the Nuron one yet?
I have not, I recently got the Nuron single handed reciprocating saw. I will get it soon though
Yehaa, dewalt win
it is a nice drill.
What’s the point of doing all these tests if your going recommend one because it comes with a handle?
It’s a drill driver test isn’t it?
I have little biases I just shopping for one, only looking for info-having a handle would sway me to buy one over another!
That gets you thumbs down!!!😮
It’s not “The Makita”. You chose an offering from Makita that can’t compete. If you want to say “The Makita” use the proper tool that’s made to compete in this category, the XGT 40v Makita.
Makita is my tool of choice. But I shouldn’t have to use a 40V tool to compete with the 18/20v tools.
the other tool brands have better drill drivers as well. Hilti does more Flex has more and Dewalt does. Dewatl has a few XR models. this video was. about these 4 models
They should have used the next tier drill in the 18 volt line. The one they used is the low level brushless, when they have another brushless 18 volt with the metal chuck, and high ratings.
The 40V model isn't a good comparison, but neither is the one he used. The XFD14T is closer model in their line. He chose to compare a lower tiered drill driver