How Med Schools View Your App-With a Director of Admissions | The Premed Years Ep. 427
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- Опубліковано 9 жов 2024
- Kristen Anderson is Director of Admissions at the new Noorda College of Osteopathic Medicine in Utah. Noorda is one of the newest medical schools in the country. Kristen joins me to talk about applications, curriculum, and what she learned from her years as a premed advisor.
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No way! Kristen used to be my pre med advisor! So happy for her!
Dr. Grey ALWAYS asks the good questions. EXACTLY what the pre-meds want to know
This is exactly what the University in my area told me. I'm an LPN, went to a technical school because my Community College GPA was very poor and couldn't enroll into their ADN program. For LPN transition programs, my current GPA is so poor in my Community College (2.2 I believe, and 2.4 for pre-reqs....basically a C student) that if I transferred to another CC for the ADN transition program...I would need to retake many courses. So I did the math...and it's almost a better option for me to transfer for pre-med at my local four year college (USF in Tampa) than to even pursue the ADN/BSN (and I refuse to enroll in a for profit nursing program which costs 30k). I've recently spoken to an advisor at USF and told her my situation, and she said their medical school would mostly focus on upper division sciences at their college, the last 60 credits, and a good MCAT, and said if I performed well that I would have doors open for PA, Med School and Anesthesiology Assistant. It's crazy to think that I'm actually in a better position for a pre-med route than nursing it's insane and almost makes no sense. From my personal experience, every time I've talked to a pre-health advisor at the University, they were so kind and professional. Every time I've talked to a nursing advisor at a local CC, they were very rude, cold and jaded. My LPN program was the worst experience of my life. The professors and advisors were horrible and unprofessional to our class. We've even discovered that the head of that nursing department had a pro MAGA twitter account with various racist tweets. During a CPR lesson we had to practice on baby dolls (half of which were dark skin) so our professor actually said "I guess they're making these politically correct now". I am so turned off from ever going to any nursing program ever. Many RN's have similar horror stories from their past programs. With med school it seems to be the opposite. I've heard there is so much support throughout the whole process, and various tools at your disposal. While the rigor is intense, med students also have so much available to them to study, as well as a very organized curriculum (something nursing schools lack. My friend attends medical school and she couldn't believe half the stuff I've mentioned about nursing school). I'm ready for a new chapter.
I believe nursing program is pretty hard too. I was thinking of applying to Noorda next year, but the last 60 units are really heavily. I don't think this way is an open door for who have low GPAs at community colleges.
I’m not sure if med school is for you if your CC grades were that low just saying. Not to be mean but it’s very hard.
I’m curious what did you end up doing?
@@jaredwilliams6853 It's possible to improve grades and show a strong upward trend. :)
One of the med schools that I'm interested in is also relatively new and has different curriculum. Its WSU med school in Spokane, Washington. There isnt a lot of info on their school but I think it's got interesting features that I'd personally love to see explored.
Very helpful video. Nice to see a director with an authentic perspective on medical admissions. Thank you!
That scribing thing makes no sense. As a medical student if I was interested in a speciality I would just email docs until someone responded and go check out what they do or schedule an elective once 3rd year came around. Docs were always more than willing to chat if I showed interest in their specialty. Idk how being a scribe would make this any better.
So people without proper medical backgrounds serve as admissions directors? It looks like this is common practice among many medical schools.
@@johna.6985 "We'll let you in if you send us a check, and then not support your success." - For-profit schools
Let’s just think about this economically for one second. If you got a medical degree from a prestigious school would you then sit on admissions making less than you would in practice and not practice what you just learned? I feel like the opportunity cost is too high. Additionally, the sole job of admissions is to see if you’d be an asset to both the school and as a doctor. You don’t need to be a doctor to perform this one task.
My first instinct is, however, to agree with you. Can someone without medical experience determine passion? Yes. But can they determine if they will make it through med school? Idk.
Physicians normally work on the admission committee, who make decisions on admission. Director of admission is someone who is responsible for the admin side of the process. But a lot of the decision making is made from the committee.
@@mitchellvachon Not necessarily. You will see lots of MDs in fields like consulting and management.
Actually more concerned that the undergrad school hired someone with no background as a pre-health advisor
Hmm... I don't like the notion of being forced to do the mental health wellness modules while I'm studying. I rarely ever get burned out and forcing this would make me greatly feel like I'm, personally, wasting time. This is great for those who need it, but gives me pause because it seems to be mandatory.
Med school is full of stuff you feel is unnecessary, get used to it
@@Agtsmirnoff Oh, I figured. I'm doing a doctorate right now and some of these sorts of things there makes me roll my eyes. I was just commenting specifically on the one from this video.
I talked to some current students - they’re not so much wellness modules in the traditional sense, but rather things like “upload a picture of you doing something you enjoy this weekend.”
@@goebelll Seems a lot more doable. Thanks a ton for that update! ^_^
@@ShinySephiroth1 no problem! I’m considering attending this school this fall (deciding between a few schools) so I wanted to make sure all my concerns were quelled before making a decision :)
My life has been perfectly suited to share my stories. My dad would always tell me I could write a book. I thought he was joking until I realized he wasn't.
This school is FOR PROFIT! It shouldn’t be promoted.
Love this!!!♥️
it's the laugh for me lmaooo
Very good interview and sounds like a good school. Issues: she was generic on the rubric with interviews and the video 2ndary bias was a great question but it WILL bring bias even though she said ....(because other people will view low scored videos will essentially not allow that). Also, bringing up the low "women" score makes me think they are trying to boost that which is scary.
A "for-profit", recently established (2019), osteopathic school.... Come on Ryan, really?
arent most med schools for profit?
@@thephoenix7090 I believe the grand majority aren't. That is one of the reasons California Northstate gets so much flack - they're "for profit".
@@ShinySephiroth1 I think my comment got deleted but indeed, most med schools are not for-profit. But Noorda is in this weird space where it’s primarily funded by a charity organization, (The Noorda Family Foundation) so it doesn’t exactly fit into the traditional for-profit model.
I also resent that OP also mentioned that it’s an osteopathic school as if that’s another negative factor on their list. Osteopathic physicians have the same scope of practice in the U.S. as allopathic physicians, and DO schools are still incredibly competitive (and becoming more competitive every year). The only difference is that osteopathic physicians have to complete additional training to earn the DO degree.
Concerns about a school being recently established and for-profit, now those are valid, though there are nuanced responses for both of those concerns.
I will continue to advocate for DO schools, even if I ultimately end up at an MD school (because I have an interest in practicing abroad, where DOs are not yet afforded the same practice rights in every country due to antiquated opinions and misinformation about the DO profession).
@@goebelll ah, I hadn't even noticed the osteopathic part. Yeah, there really isn't a significant difference imo between the two pathways.
Yeah scribing during med school ?
She has such a cringe laugh
Have you ever said that about a man's laugh?
@@MrsTips Here we go, the butt hurt feminist. Always gotta make it about the patriarchy don'tcha?
@@MrsTips no because it's usually middle aged women who laugh randomly in increments for no reason while explaining a lecture or telling a story on a date it's cringe af 😣
@@jayrollo1352 Only someone who felt personally attacked by my comment would have inserted themselves into a conversation to call themselves out like you did right there.
@@MrsTips You got no real come backs so you decide to go with the emotional attack. Classic. Slay queen!