UPDATE: I did get accepted to one of my top DO schools of choice! I’m here to let everybody know that the journey is worth it. There were so many times where it felt impossible, and I’m aware that my application had significant holes. But as Dr. Gray preaches, it just has to be “good enough” to get you in front a committee. Thank you Dr. Gray, and thank you to the pre-Med community. Be great!
He is very positive and has such a great attitude taking in all of Dr.Grays feedback, thank you for sharing your app renovation with us & best of luck to him !
I would seriously love if we could have a recap of every session at the end. There's so much information but its hard to remember every single nugget that Dr. Gray puts out.
I feel like some people spend so much time in bio etc. and forget that English skills are important. I write the way I talk thus I must edit my essays for days but its worth it because it would look and sound just like this. This show has helped me so much. I used it to apply to Canadian Universities for the first time and it worked. I wonder if Dr. Gray would like to read them.
I hope he can do it and ve accepted. Its really hard to apply and stressful, plus when they get in, its really harder to be a medical students, studying all the time, sometimes eating in a hurry, I can see how hard because am in healthcare who worked with residents and i saw some ms volunteers, so I really appreciate the hard work these medical students endure from their very beginning until their done with their final residency
The information is great in this episode. Please fix the gain in future (it got a little hard to listen too in the last half of the video due to the jarring difference between your guest and your mic)
not necessarily. if you're taking the mcat multiple times and have big jumps in your retakes, then that's different. if you are talking about taking the mcat many times and scoring around the same or worse, then not ideal
I agree and disagree. If you're comparing student A who got a 515 the first time and student B who took 2-3 tries for a 515, student A would be considered as someone who can handle coursework over student B. However, I don't think that taking more than one try to reach a good score shows that you can't get things done, and it certainly doesn't reflect on how you would perform on a board exam
As a person who did really well in an MMI a while back (after having the grades and being bad at the interview). You should do is know the different MMI stations read a bit about it and enjoy the ride. Really, if you make the other person feel good, they'll remember you. They have 5-8 minutes, you can't have a comprehensive answer to their questions, just try to be a human and that goes miles away.
Nah this guy doesn’t have that many extracurriculars for entering college in 2014. His extracurriculars kinda suck. Not much volunteering, clinical, or even research. I think research is incredibly important for someone who wants to become a neurosurgeon.
I agree. Some people who seem advantaged do not necessarily have the advantage. Some people have parents who make their child work for it no matter what this dude thinks.
I'm not sure that every school will feel like retaking courses at a community college will demonstrate ability. I thought you were supposed to retake at a school comparable to your UG institution?
Reapplicant for the schools you submitted to, but a new applicant for schools you didn't submit to before. Some might ask if you applied to others before too
Oh he applied to Morehouse....that's not likely happening. Morehouse is mostly dedicated to the Black community. I'm surprised he didn't notice the matriculation stats on the MSAR.
@C B hahaha. That's a great one. "The nation’s 4 historically Black medical schools have graduated more Black physicians over the last 10 years than the top 10 predominantly White medical schools combined." Morehouse is also in Atlanta GA, The state has the greatest black percentage population in the country, and some of the most horribly racist schools historically outside ole'Miss (cough EMORY cough). This has led to some awful health disparities and complete distrust of the healthcare system.
@C B Absolutely more diverse schools are generally stronger and have better outcomes, and as the gap closes in actual medical care and coverage across the board, those gaps that these schools fill can close as well. But until then, one must be active in filling the lack of diversity in medicine. The difference here is Emory is starting at 100%, and Morehouse started with zero. To try and equal the two would, of course, be a complete false equivalency. Especially since we're not filling those gaps still today.
@C B Can you point out where exactly I said he had no chance? I'm pretty sure I didn't, I clearly said "Not likely" which is accurate. I also didn't say Emory started at 0%, clearly you need to re-read what I wrote. I also wasn't talking about Emory today, but I get that you would somehow equate the progress Emory has made in the last 5 years with the lack of equity that has existed since 1836, there is a lot of ground to make up there. Also, Georgia is 31% black, so not quite there yet with that 17%.
The 505 isn’t bad at all, it all depends on what makes you unique and how you can tell your story as a candidate to the committee. I know of someone who got an admission into MD/PHD with 505 at Uni of Miami SOM. He had a lot of research experiences.
UPDATE: I did get accepted to one of my top DO schools of choice! I’m here to let everybody know that the journey is worth it. There were so many times where it felt impossible, and I’m aware that my application had significant holes. But as Dr. Gray preaches, it just has to be “good enough” to get you in front a committee. Thank you Dr. Gray, and thank you to the pre-Med community. Be great!
Congrats!
CONGRATULATIONS JORDYN !!
Congratulations that is so exciting!!
Congratulations!!!
CONGRATS
He literally did everything that his advisors/admissions told him to do. I really hope he gets in next cycle, he deserves it.
I really like his demeanor. If you're reading this, you will get in, I believe in you!
He is very positive and has such a great attitude taking in all of Dr.Grays feedback, thank you for sharing your app renovation with us & best of luck to him !
I would seriously love if we could have a recap of every session at the end. There's so much information but its hard to remember every single nugget that Dr. Gray puts out.
People out here complaining about him ripping up his application have no idea what’s coming further in medical training
If you're in medical school, getting ripped up is nothing. If you're not in medical school, getting ripped up is everything.
I’d rather get ripped up by my preceptor and mentor than have my training delayed or not getting into my dream job.
I feel like some people spend so much time in bio etc. and forget that English skills are important. I write the way I talk thus I must edit my essays for days but its worth it because it would look and sound just like this. This show has helped me so much. I used it to apply to Canadian Universities for the first time and it worked. I wonder if Dr. Gray would like to read them.
This guy is really chill. Would love to have some brews with this dude
Name the time and place brother
Another typo from disadvantaged essay: “sole responsibility” not “soul”.
This dude can absolutely get into a DO program and do well. He’s got the right attitude.
Fix up the PS and extracurriculars and this man can def get in a DO school
Yeah I felt like his personal statement was like a job resume.
I will confirm that UAMS has a neurosurgical residency at UAMS Med. Though it’s nice to have multiple shadowing environments.
really hope he gets in somewhere!
I hope he can do it and ve accepted. Its really hard to apply and stressful, plus when they get in, its really harder to be a medical students, studying all the time, sometimes eating in a hurry, I can see how hard because am in healthcare who worked with residents and i saw some ms volunteers, so I really appreciate the hard work these medical students endure from their very beginning until their done with their final residency
thank you both so much for this!
The information is great in this episode. Please fix the gain in future (it got a little hard to listen too in the last half of the video due to the jarring difference between your guest and your mic)
This guy seems very well put together, he’ll definitely get in going forward
Dr Gray, you missed a typo. It should be “sole responsibility” and not soul responsibility in the disadvantage statement.
You just don’t understand poetry when you see it.
This guy deserves to be a physician. I love his attitude! However, med schools also don’t like when you take the MCAT more than 2 times.
not necessarily. if you're taking the mcat multiple times and have big jumps in your retakes, then that's different. if you are talking about taking the mcat many times and scoring around the same or worse, then not ideal
I agree and disagree. If you're comparing student A who got a 515 the first time and student B who took 2-3 tries for a 515, student A would be considered as someone who can handle coursework over student B. However, I don't think that taking more than one try to reach a good score shows that you can't get things done, and it certainly doesn't reflect on how you would perform on a board exam
@C B I would advise you to watch the talk given by the dean of admissions from JHU. I'm not sure where you're getting your false narratives from.
Where’s the video where he rips up someone’s application
As a person who did really well in an MMI a while back (after having the grades and being bad at the interview). You should do is know the different MMI stations read a bit about it and enjoy the ride. Really, if you make the other person feel good, they'll remember you. They have 5-8 minutes, you can't have a comprehensive answer to their questions, just try to be a human and that goes miles away.
How do I volunteer as tribute to let Dr. Gary rip my medical school application apart.
Look at the description
Also it's "sole responsibility" not "soul responsibility" 😬
Nurses and long time CNAs can easily set up shadowing experiences with doctors too.
Oh what’s up Alex congrats on WVU!
Oh wow wrong person, my friend Alex just got into WVU lol
This guy is actually pretty well rounded. Hopefully he gets in next cycle.
Nah this guy doesn’t have that many extracurriculars for entering college in 2014. His extracurriculars kinda suck. Not much volunteering, clinical, or even research. I think research is incredibly important for someone who wants to become a neurosurgeon.
I agree. Some people who seem advantaged do not necessarily have the advantage. Some people have parents who make their child work for it no matter what this dude thinks.
What med school are they talking about in the beginning?
University of Kansas
I'm not sure that every school will feel like retaking courses at a community college will demonstrate ability. I thought you were supposed to retake at a school comparable to your UG institution?
I feel like his personal statement reads like a job resume.
Maybe that was the nice way of saying everything was "garbage".
I have a Question. If I withdrawal my application, will I be considered as a reapplying student for next cycle?
If you've already clicked 'submit' the answer is yes.
Reapplicant for the schools you submitted to, but a new applicant for schools you didn't submit to before. Some might ask if you applied to others before too
Tell me this man is not Varys from Game of Thrones....
Brace for the 27th
Oh he applied to Morehouse....that's not likely happening. Morehouse is mostly dedicated to the Black community. I'm surprised he didn't notice the matriculation stats on the MSAR.
@C B hahaha. That's a great one. "The nation’s 4 historically Black medical schools have graduated more Black physicians over the last 10 years than the top 10 predominantly White medical schools combined."
Morehouse is also in Atlanta GA, The state has the greatest black percentage population in the country, and some of the most horribly racist schools historically outside ole'Miss (cough EMORY cough). This has led to some awful health disparities and complete distrust of the healthcare system.
@C B Absolutely more diverse schools are generally stronger and have better outcomes, and as the gap closes in actual medical care and coverage across the board, those gaps that these schools fill can close as well. But until then, one must be active in filling the lack of diversity in medicine. The difference here is Emory is starting at 100%, and Morehouse started with zero. To try and equal the two would, of course, be a complete false equivalency. Especially since we're not filling those gaps still today.
@C B Can you point out where exactly I said he had no chance? I'm pretty sure I didn't, I clearly said "Not likely" which is accurate. I also didn't say Emory started at 0%, clearly you need to re-read what I wrote. I also wasn't talking about Emory today, but I get that you would somehow equate the progress Emory has made in the last 5 years with the lack of equity that has existed since 1836, there is a lot of ground to make up there. Also, Georgia is 31% black, so not quite there yet with that 17%.
@C B I don't think you know what Quota means.
@C B Which facts were made up exactly?
Another "low stats" matriculant that is not URM.
50 credits of a 4.0 is not exactly low stats
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I disagree about the 505 being good. It was his 4th take. 4TH TAKE! That is ridiculously unacceptable. It is literally the definition of mediocrity.
A 505 isn't bad tho. And some people are not good test takers, have test taking anxiety, etc.
The 505 isn’t bad at all, it all depends on what makes you unique and how you can tell your story as a candidate to the committee.
I know of someone who got an admission into MD/PHD with 505 at Uni of Miami SOM. He had a lot of research experiences.
anything over 500 is considered good enough to be a doctor, a 505 is the average for DO School