Would very much enjoy a series on the Sonible products, or even more interviews with their development team. Loved your interview with their CMO. A comparison series between the Pure and Smart plugins would also be neat. Might even be worth throwing in the FAST plugins from Focusrite since they use Sonible algorithms. I sense Sonible is going to be at the forefront of AI/machine learning software, so jumping on now seems like a good idea. As someone new to mixing, their AI is seriously speeding up my learning of mixing techniques. It's like having someone next to you while you mix alone, offering hints and suggestions on what might sound good. Can't recommend their stuff enough.
It took me 5 min of trying the demo to buy this plug in, I have tested every de esser known to man, non are perfect and somebody somewhere will complain, this one is just close to perfection. Tutorials yes please!
I very much enjoy watching you with a new plugin and I appreciate the occasional fumble with controls. The fact that you let us mortals see this is a true comfort when I’m staring at a new interface and trying to remember why I bought it. :-)
I'm kind of on the fence about buying the Sonible smart plugins, because I don't NEED another eq, another compressor, etc. But, learning more about the extra bits and bobs that these plugins can do might just be what makes up my mind to buy, so happy to see future videos covering those.
Sonible really does some good stuff. One suggestion - would it be possible to make a quick comment on the latency on plugins you test in the future. Obviously it doesn't really matter for mixing engineers, but a lot of us producers use mixing tools during production and latency can really kill the usefulness of a plugin! It's been especially noticeable with newer spectral and/or ML/AI plugins compared to the dumber ones from yesteryear :) Cheers
... and maybe some words about the CPU usage. I have several sonible plugins and they seem to use a lot of it - up to the point where other plugins (from UAD) are getting disabled in a DAW session.
Even for people who are mixing...you get to a point in a production where you realize an overdub or punch in needs to happen, but you've already done all kinds of processing. That latency can affect the performance when you are trying to throw things in there.
Ok this is going to be really, really good!..... I can already hear there's a sweet spot there, that you can reach pretty quickly. A tutorial would be very nice as a reference 😉👍
Some Sonible tutorials would be awesome. I’ve found they’ve crept into my workflow but feel there’s more depth to them than maybe I’m wringing out, thanks in advance!
i would watch and rewatch these tutorials, i have smart bundle (except this one), so i would definitely benefit from it. i currently use hornet de esser, but i love sonible UI's, so i'm considering buying this one as well
Finding that Sonible plugins big time savers on my work. I typically record live events that go for hours. I've found a lot of the other de-essing plugins way too fussy unless you are working on just one song/one performance at a time. On many occasions I've had to resort to manually reducing plosives and sibilance.
I think on balanced source material like your recording it's not doing better than a standard de-esser. I will try it on some heavy stuff, bad recordings.. excited to see how it performs
Service post on "What's a phoneme?" A phoneme is the top category of phons with a phon being a single utterance of a speech sound - for example: [s]. All [s] that anyone ever uttered are then part of the phoneme /s/. I expected the plug-in to treat different phonemes, differently (like for example the sibilants in thick, sick and chic). But apparently it's only making a difference between plosives and sibilants which are categories above phonemes.
Id love some tutorials for the Sonible smart line. Ive got most of them, but dont use them that often, because I dont get to it to really dive in and I keep falling back on my familliar Fabfilter plugins
I'm surprised you don't have an SS'y vocal which you know the issues and you compare to who you used to fix. I've tried EVERY De-esser as I have an SS'y vocalist I work with. :) The Eiosis e2deesser does it now for me! I'll compare to this.
Oh dear. You complained so much about the need to push a button to analyse vocals that you missed the little button beneath that big green "analyze button". It says something like "auto analyse on start-up". Would that help?
While I really love Sonible plugins and the Deess is not an exception, it lacks a crucial thing. Did you hear that it doesn't recognize "f's"? Not just a tiny bit, no, completely. Which means that I have to manually correct every "f" or use a second de-esser. Quite a big miss in my book. Other than that it is the quickest and best sounding de-esser I have ever used, software and hardware wise.
Am I the only one who typed the Dutch word in Google translate and got "Orange Juice Effect"? 😊 I think I liked the sound but would love to hear your update on this plugin, since I think this is one application Sonible's AI could really blow away other approaches. It reminds me of the Sibilance plugin from Waves, but I'm intrigued by the tone shaping controls offered here.
Maybe a bit for you to catch this comment but could you explore using this on instruments as well such as acoustic guitar as it is a great technique with some other de-esser's.. at least I find this myself
Often instead of removing the S (knocking the singer’s teeth out), I just want to change the S characteristics to be smoother (implants). Waves Sibilance held a lot of promise with Organic Resynthesis, they promised to do just that. I wonder how Sonible Dees stacks up against Waves Sibilance?
I'm actually using both and I must say the Waves Sibilance is still my favourite for de-essing. No matter how hard you push it it's just so good and natural sounding without any artefacts. I have had some issues with the Sonible Deess that it can sound lispy or oddly digital on certain sounds (I'm not sure if my ears are failing me - but that's what I thought). On the other hand, it's amazingly good at plosives. So I'm super happy using Sonible for plosives and Waves Sibilance for de-essing.
For me its Melodyne sibilance tool in combination with the 902, I feel like I get control and a predictable outcome like this. Also I don't get all those AI type plugins and I did try many of them -- the time it takes the "AI" to learn the settings is longer than it takes me to dial in the settings + the settings the plugin dials in most often are very basic and uninteresting
Last year I've interviewed one of the engineers from Sonible about A.I. --> ua-cam.com/video/ZGetnk222YU/v-deo.html
Sonible tutorials would be really great - make it happen and make us happy!
Would very much enjoy a series on the Sonible products, or even more interviews with their development team. Loved your interview with their CMO. A comparison series between the Pure and Smart plugins would also be neat. Might even be worth throwing in the FAST plugins from Focusrite since they use Sonible algorithms. I sense Sonible is going to be at the forefront of AI/machine learning software, so jumping on now seems like a good idea. As someone new to mixing, their AI is seriously speeding up my learning of mixing techniques. It's like having someone next to you while you mix alone, offering hints and suggestions on what might sound good. Can't recommend their stuff enough.
Yes please! Tutorials would be great.. I have been using all of sonibles plugins since seeing your videos reviewing them earlier in the year
Yes! Would love to see your tutorial on Sonible's Deesser! Thanks for all your great reviews. I learn a lot.
It took me 5 min of trying the demo to buy this plug in, I have tested every de esser known to man, non are perfect and somebody somewhere will complain, this one is just close to perfection. Tutorials yes please!
I very much enjoy watching you with a new plugin and I appreciate the occasional fumble with controls. The fact that you let us mortals see this is a true comfort when I’m staring at a new interface and trying to remember why I bought it. :-)
yes please! I'dd like some in depth tutorials on the smart-plugins :)
Great show ! Yes please reveal all Sonible details, these plugins are very interesting !
I'm kind of on the fence about buying the Sonible smart plugins, because I don't NEED another eq, another compressor, etc. But, learning more about the extra bits and bobs that these plugins can do might just be what makes up my mind to buy, so happy to see future videos covering those.
Very impressed. It sounded perfect on its very first analysis.
Sonible really does some good stuff. One suggestion - would it be possible to make a quick comment on the latency on plugins you test in the future. Obviously it doesn't really matter for mixing engineers, but a lot of us producers use mixing tools during production and latency can really kill the usefulness of a plugin! It's been especially noticeable with newer spectral and/or ML/AI plugins compared to the dumber ones from yesteryear :) Cheers
... and maybe some words about the CPU usage. I have several sonible plugins and they seem to use a lot of it - up to the point where other plugins (from UAD) are getting disabled in a DAW session.
Even for people who are mixing...you get to a point in a production where you realize an overdub or punch in needs to happen, but you've already done all kinds of processing. That latency can affect the performance when you are trying to throw things in there.
@@alexbreyer6921 True words.
@@alexbreyer6921 For sure true! All good reasons to start take notice of latency while test-driving the latest plugins :)
My favorite de-esser is still Melodyne 5's sibilance tool. It's not real time, but it gives so much control.
Does it cut under 1k? I can't stand most of the ripping/distorted sounds and by cutting everything under 1k in a sibilance really makes it sweeter
Too much waisting time for me
Yes please, show us your sonible tutorials !
would definitely love to see sonible tutorials!
Yes please. Turtorials!!! Thanks for all your efforts... :)
Absolutely looking forward to the tutorials I love sonible, plug-ins and own quite a few
Yes, please. Tutorials with that plug would be just great
Ok this is going to be really, really good!..... I can already hear there's a sweet spot there, that you can reach pretty quickly.
A tutorial would be very nice as a reference 😉👍
Tutorial yes plz! Thank you for all your vids!
Some Sonible tutorials would be awesome. I’ve found they’ve crept into my workflow but feel there’s more depth to them than maybe I’m wringing out, thanks in advance!
Yes, we want these videos! Good job!!!
That would be fantastic if you made some deep dives into all the family of Sonible- thank you!!!
i would watch and rewatch these tutorials, i have smart bundle (except this one), so i would definitely benefit from it. i currently use hornet de esser, but i love sonible UI's, so i'm considering buying this one as well
Thanks for doing this. Might come in handy for our podcast.
Order of operations? DS first and then print? Then compress?
Finding that Sonible plugins big time savers on my work. I typically record live events that go for hours. I've found a lot of the other de-essing plugins way too fussy unless you are working on just one song/one performance at a time. On many occasions I've had to resort to manually reducing plosives and sibilance.
Yes please I would love to see the sonible tutorial video, i love using their plugins.
Ye go for it.. love smart eq
I think on balanced source material like your recording it's not doing better than a standard de-esser. I will try it on some heavy stuff, bad recordings.. excited to see how it performs
I definitely want to know your conclusions after having worked with the plugin for a bit. If that turns into a tutorial, great!
The Lindell 902 is my de-esser of choice. Can even use it on the master buss without overall sound loss
Deess:Nuts by Sonible
Always enjoy your videos. Sonible tutorial would be great!
In the logotype, there's a clear gap between the two ee that indicates two words.
Well dome Sonible ! It would be useful test on the cumbals in the mix as well
what a nice clean sounding de-esser!
I would be happy to see a smart:comp 2 tutorial and in particular the best way to spectrally sidechain the instrumental to the vocal lead.
Use FUSER by Mastering the Mix for spectral sidechaining! It is a bargain and incredibly useful
YES! more sonible, plz.
Service post on "What's a phoneme?"
A phoneme is the top category of phons with a phon being a single utterance of a speech sound - for example: [s]. All [s] that anyone ever uttered are then part of the phoneme /s/.
I expected the plug-in to treat different phonemes, differently (like for example the sibilants in thick, sick and chic). But apparently it's only making a difference between plosives and sibilants which are categories above phonemes.
Yes! Sonible plugin tutorials PLEASE!!!!!
Id love some tutorials for the Sonible smart line. Ive got most of them, but dont use them that often, because I dont get to it to really dive in and I keep falling back on my familliar Fabfilter plugins
Yes, Sonible Tutorials Please
i must say out of all the non AI deessers mentioned (including sybillance, Renaissance and Pro DS) I really like the Lindell from PA most.
Sinuous, silvery streams of syllables, seamlessly dispensed? Super!
Hopefully they come out with a version for the Pure line to follow this soon with a similar or same algorhythm.
Of course they will.
@@Fastvoice I meant soon lol
YES PLEASE - for the soniable tutorials
I'm curious: What plugin would anyone use to smoothen bitalisaing noise, besides a rude low pass?
that tutorial would be much appreciated! thank you
Yes to Sonible tutorials! 🤘🏻
Your turorials for Sonible plugins would be much appretiated as I use all of their smart ones.
Would def like a tutorial on how you use Pro DS!
I'm surprised you don't have an SS'y vocal which you know the issues and you compare to who you used to fix. I've tried EVERY De-esser as I have an SS'y vocalist I work with. :) The Eiosis e2deesser does it now for me! I'll compare to this.
Deess is nuts!
I go back to work now.
Please review the whole bunch of sonible plugins in depth
Oh dear. You complained so much about the need to push a button to analyse vocals that you missed the little button beneath that big green "analyze button".
It says something like "auto analyse on start-up".
Would that help?
Would Love to see Sonible tutorials.
includes pure:eq or smart:eq a de:esser?
I'm wondering how this works on a full mix/in mastering (as a potential replacement for Softube Weiss mastering de-esser)?
While I really love Sonible plugins and the Deess is not an exception, it lacks a crucial thing. Did you hear that it doesn't recognize "f's"? Not just a tiny bit, no, completely. Which means that I have to manually correct every "f" or use a second de-esser. Quite a big miss in my book. Other than that it is the quickest and best sounding de-esser I have ever used, software and hardware wise.
Yes please and also the full Focusrite collective plug-ins in partnership with sonible…
Tutorials would be awesome!!
Am I the only one who typed the Dutch word in Google translate and got "Orange Juice Effect"? 😊 I think I liked the sound but would love to hear your update on this plugin, since I think this is one application Sonible's AI could really blow away other approaches. It reminds me of the Sibilance plugin from Waves, but I'm intrigued by the tone shaping controls offered here.
i like the eiosis deesser/fabfilter the most- curious to how this compares. I don't usually like spectral de-essers. I prefer wideband de-essing
This does wideband as well
Curious if you're still using this
Sonible tutorials would be welcome as I use these VST3s on a daily basis.
yes sir, we would like to see sonible tutorials
Been waiting for this 🙏🏻
the analysis part is awesome... tell me about ARA analysis just as in Melodyne integration in Cubase? Killer vibes only... 😂😂😂😂
Maybe a bit for you to catch this comment but could you explore using this on instruments as well such as acoustic guitar as it is a great technique with some other de-esser's.. at least I find this myself
Would love to see the tutorial
Is that an affiliate link or what? The link I get going to their website is different from what you have posted here!
Did you watch the full video? I'm disclosing this pretty clearly...
Would love to see the Sonible tutorials
Often instead of removing the S (knocking the singer’s teeth out), I just want to change the S characteristics to be smoother (implants).
Waves Sibilance held a lot of promise with Organic Resynthesis, they promised to do just that. I wonder how Sonible Dees stacks up against Waves Sibilance?
I'm actually using both and I must say the Waves Sibilance is still my favourite for de-essing. No matter how hard you push it it's just so good and natural sounding without any artefacts. I have had some issues with the Sonible Deess that it can sound lispy or oddly digital on certain sounds (I'm not sure if my ears are failing me - but that's what I thought). On the other hand, it's amazingly good at plosives. So I'm super happy using Sonible for plosives and Waves Sibilance for de-essing.
all-in Sonible overviews/tutorials would be nice, it's one of those companies recently very active, their portfolio is becoming overwhelming :)
Sonible tuts would be very welcome!
Vs the Melodyne Sibilance Advanced Tools?
Any update on your conclusions?? 😄
We need your tutorials!
Seems to be spectral based. Not sure if it is better than the iZotope De-ess using spectral mode which I think is the bomb.
Sonible tutorials. Yes. That's a yes. ❤
I picked this up!
I've tested this one today with singer, not really like the result...
What deesser you prefer instead?
@@marcvoss pro-ds is for me the best i have ftm... not tried yet to do on isotope rx...
Interested to hear more engineers weighing in on this one.
For me its Melodyne sibilance tool in combination with the 902, I feel like I get control and a predictable outcome like this. Also I don't get all those AI type plugins and I did try many of them -- the time it takes the "AI" to learn the settings is longer than it takes me to dial in the settings + the settings the plugin dials in most often are very basic and uninteresting
What's the small cube at the top left doing?
You should get some recordings in polish for your tutorial - tons of esses in our language 😁
Yes please, make tutorials 😀
Please, can u do more videos on dolby-atmos? Studio one 6.5 now supports it.
Impressive!
Sonible tutorials. Yes! Please.
Pro DS is in my wish list. Do you think Smart:Deess could be a better option?
Pro ds in all round mode with split can take care of all your needs
Yes to the tutorials.
Sonible tutorials for sure
smart deess nutz
Seems to work well, but doesn't seem to me yet to be anything revolutionary. I tend to gravitate towards Eiosis E2.
Yes make the tutorials please
Sonible are the GOAT
Sonible update smart bundle first to work with sonoma. Damn
Yes, do it