For everyone wondering about why Santa is being mentioned, Bortus was told the story of Rudolph and how if his parents had decided to 'fix' his red nose then he wouldn't be able to save Christmas with said nose.
Ah a great story of how your differences make you a freak unless they're useful. Seriously tho, the original had santa shaming dasher or whoever the father was for rudolph's differences, man old people have insane lore for their children stories.
So basically Boris and his pals Gordon and them watched Rudolph the Red-Nosed reindeer where I guess borders picked up the understanding of being prejudged and that being different can be a good thing😂😂😂 so basically Rudolph the Red-Nosed reindeer cured his bigotry that has been taught to him his whole life😂😂😂@@ronaldhudson169
@@ronaldhudson169 quick run down These two wanted to change their baby's gender to male because their alien species frowns and hates females for some reason They try to get the ship doctor to change the baby's gender and even try to get the captain to force the gender However, after they show one of the parents the story about Rudolph, the red nose reindeer to convince him that just because their baby is different does not mean she will be failure So when he says "Or perhaps you could've achieved glory for leading Santa Claus!" That's why. This show is so good I gotta watch it
My favorite part of all of this is he was given a very old Christmas story and turned it into an analogy to explain to Clieden about how he feels about having their child altered. The funnier part of this is that last line before it cuts off
It's crazy how this parody of Star Trek has proven to be a far better Star Trek show than any of the actual modern Star Trek shows that have come out in recent years.
Bortus was invited to watch an "ancient" human movie about rudolph the red nose reindeer. Bortus Veeeery reluctantly attends. He becomes transfixed by the moral of the classic, and when Santa realizes that Rudolph hid what makes him different and unwelcome, he is angry at first...but then realizes, Rudolph's differences, may be what saves Christmas. Bortus has the same epiphany about his cultures hatred of females. That, maybe, acceptance, may result in glory. It broke down a rigid moral wall. So cool how well these stories and ideals are brilliantly wrapped in humour, pain, surprise, honor, and tolerance💗
If I remember right his crewmates tried several different ways to convince him and none of them worked the Rudolph thing was a bit of a fluke but it's the one that stuck with him I also love that even after they lose the court and their daughter becomes their son what is first gift from his parents is a Rudolph plushie😊
@nicolesmith2297 my personal headcanon is that lamar and gordon wasn't actually trying to convince him and just used it as an excuse to drink with bortus and chose Rudolph as an excuse to the captain that they tried instead of just getting drunk
@@octopassi2528 I was thinking something similar, but more like they were going to try talking to him after the movie. Get him a loosened up with a bit of beer and a nice kid's movie, then try talking to him. Then the movie did the job and they were just like "Yep! Totally planned that!"
@@joedepalo3230My understanding is this is an analogy for babies in our society who are born intersex (as in being both sets of organs), their gender ultimately left to the parents to decide, as unfortunately as I understand it, there can be many complications for intersex children. It is also addrsssing the damage it does keeping that information hidden from them even as they become adults and the shock of finding out that your entire life could have been entirely different (for better or for worse). Their species has some poor opinions about being female to the point where they treat it as correcting a mistake surgically changing their females into male so that they can fit in their society. But their child is born within the federation so it muddies this idea as these two in particular have been exposed to many other societies that don't have such cultural and societal views. Possibly meaning that the future of their child should be left for the child to decide once they have developed the capacity to choose for themself. Unlike them who weren't given that option.
Paragraph person!!! Bortus (the one yelling about Christmas) is with Klyden. They are mates. Their race consists of like 99% males. If any are born female they are changed into Males. Klyden was born a female but was changed into a male. Bortus is upset because their new born has been born a female, originally he was going to have her changed into a male. But after the crew convinced him that being a female and different is not a bad thing. He wanted the baby to choose for itself when she is older. Obviously Klyden doesn't want that and sees it as, this is the way it must be and to have the baby changed into a male. Spoilers: They go to their home planet, Bortus meets a female that was in hiding and she happens to be a very intelligent philosopher in hiding, that everyone from the planet all quote and reference (she used a male name when publishing) They go into court battle where Bortus fights for the baby to stay a female and Klyden fights to have her changed into Male. Bortus loses and the baby is changed into a Male. It kind of puts a damper on the relationship but they press on with lives. Their culture is crazy, if they want a divorce they will kill the other. They also pee once a year or something like that. And they lay eggs when they reproduce and they keep it warm by sitting on it.
I am confused cause I can’t decide between being emotional about how hard that scene goes or laughing about the simple fact that he keeps bringing up Rudolf
Bortus was invited to watch an "ancient" human movie about rudolph the red nose reindeer. Bortus Veeeery reluctantly attends. He becomes transfixed by the moral of the classic, and when Santa realizes that Rudolph hid what makes him different and unwelcome, he is angry at first...but then realizes, Rudolph's differences, may be what saves Christmas. Bortus has the same epiphany about his cultures hatred of females. That, maybe, acceptance, may result in glory. It broke down a rigid moral wall. So cool how well these stories and ideals are brilliantly wrapped in humour, pain, surprise, honor, and tolerance💗
@@deemiller5024 well I knew that he watched Rudolf and that that’s why he talks about but the situation gives off this the random vibe and it’s just that it’s so random that out of every story he could have seen that convinced it was one of these Christmas stories out there
Yep lol! Rudolph taught him how someone’s “deformity” or difference not accepted by the surrounding society may someday prove useful in unforeseen ways
Bortus was invited to watch an "ancient" human movie about rudolph the red nose reindeer. Bortus Veeeery reluctantly attends. He becomes transfixed by the moral of the classic, and when Santa realizes that Rudolph hid what makes him different and unwelcome, he is angry at first...but then realizes, Rudolph's differences, may be what saves Christmas. Bortus has the same epiphany about his cultures hatred of females. That, maybe, acceptance, may result in glory. It broke down a rigid moral wall. So cool how well these stories and ideals are brilliantly wrapped in humour, pain, surprise, honor, and tolerance💗
Tbh Klyden has always looked a little feminine, so this explains it. I am not saying that there’s anything wrong with looking female or feminine, just saying that Klyden has some characteristics
Bortus was invited to watch an "ancient" human movie about rudolph the red nose reindeer. Bortus Veeeery reluctantly attends. He becomes transfixed by the moral of the classic, and when Santa realizes that Rudolph hid what makes him different and unwelcome, he is angry at first...but then realizes, Rudolph's differences, may be what saves Christmas. Bortus has the same epiphany about his cultures hatred of females. That, maybe, acceptance, may result in glory. It broke down a rigid moral wall. So cool how well these stories and ideals are brilliantly wrapped in humour, pain, surprise, honor, and tolerance💗
Klyden doesnt realise that the only reason to why it hurt him so much is because he was raised into this culture He wouldn’t have been so upset if he found out when he was younger, if anything, he would’ve been angry at his culture and would’ve went into hiding like the rest of the females on his planet He was so well raised into HIS culture to the point that he REFUSED to leave it even when it hurt him, even when it hurt his own child. He only left it at the very end when it almost costed his child’s life I think that’s because he never knew that u could be killed for being a female and when he realised this, he left. As much anger that i hold against his character i cannot deny the fact that he did very much do his best as a parent He played with topa he ate with topa he taught topa and topa even trusted him with personal information which shows goodness and topa knows this which is why she was so ready to forgive him at the end, and so does bortus The only real villain here is the culture.
Sometimes admitting you were abused is the most difficult part. Moclas is a culture built on strength and uniformity admitting even to yourself is a cause of great pain. That’s why he regretted his decision and realizes that Moclan culture is broken.
Kylden was giving a surgery at birth that changed his biological sex to the gender he identified with. He assumes every female will internally identify as male like him. That is why he pushes for it for their baby and rejects her when she does identify as female (the same as her biology). He can't imagine being female even though he biologically was because he identifies as male. So how can she? Does that invalidate him?. It is a great play on transphobe rhetoric.
This is why you do not let doctors get happy with their knives on intersex children. I would much rather homeschool them, and let them make their own choice.
@@JVandthebrotherhoodhonestly schooling has TONS of advantages, as long as you don’t forget that they still have to be socialized. I’d never accept my child going to a government or religious school.
@@UpperDarbyDetailing alright, have fun ruining your inocent kid's life. In a proper country this is ilegal. School is not just about memorizing stuff or socializing, there is a reason why you go to college to teach. When your kid needs a doctor try "homehospitalizing" too
@@JVandthebrotherhood 😂😂😂 you assume you know me or anything about what that homeschooling might be like. I’ve seen what went on in schools when I was a kid. I see what’s happening now. Sending them to school is what will ruin their life and their mental and physical health.
@@UpperDarbyDetailing yeah, keep telling yourself that to make you feel like you're right when all evidence shows otherwise. There is a reason why this trash is allowed in the USA, it's because it sucks. Just like security, healthcare system, infrastructure, policy making, and the list goes on and on and on
Bortus was invited to watch an "ancient" human movie about rudolph the red nose reindeer. Bortus Veeeery reluctantly attends. He becomes transfixed by the moral of the classic, and when Santa realizes that Rudolph hid what makes him different and unwelcome, he is angry at first...but then realizes, Rudolph's differences, may be what saves Christmas. Bortus has the same epiphany about his cultures hatred of females. That, maybe, acceptance, may result in glory. It broke down a rigid moral wall. So cool how well these stories and ideals are brilliantly wrapped in humour, pain, surprise, honor, and tolerance💗
Comparing to intersex is bad faith, a intersex is undefined, so a choice is necessary for health reasons, as the person can have a lot of organic complications if unsolved, this case is a forced assignment surgery to conform to moclan standarts, in fact the change her sex was harmfull to her mind, she was born healthy. This is about using the scalpel on children for political reasons, is not even a analogy but a direct example.
@@pbonfantiforced conformity like what we have now when people who are trans can’t get the care they need. The laws against them forcing that conformity. Topa goes on to want to change her moclan society doesn’t want that to happen
Females are rare. Like 1 in 100 or something. So all females automatically gender reassigned to male. Now and again a parent decides to not to force it on there child but I think it has only happened once in 75 years which is fuked up.
This why I hate Klyden he doesn't know what he could have been and is always seem to be fighting against those he loves especially he's own Daughter who only wanted he's support
That line of i still love you that hasn't changed but you lied should be given more credit because people really get scared easily if they admit a mistake rhey wont be loved anymore
Bortus and Klyden were going to have their baby girl surgically altered into a boy because their species considers being female to be a shameful deformity. Bortus changed his mind about the procedure after watching Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer.
Parents who change their newborn baby's gender are sick. Would you want that to happen to you? Of course not because obviously you are proud of your gender. Why would you deny that fact to a newborn baby?
Yeah, exactly, the show is referencing the fact that in real life babies who are born intersex with both sets of physical genitalia characteristics are typically given surgery as infants in order to make their genitalia appear more normal, even though it can cause lifelong damage. All so everything can appear normal, it’s sick.
@@synder_sync7834 I don't believe in doing that. It's different from being a transgender. I believe children born like that should have the choice on what gender they are, & if they want to keep both part. I know of a fanfic that talked about this. When the child's deformities where confirmed at birth & Drs offered the surgery they refused & decided to let the child decide. They used gender neutral colors & clothes etc for a few years then when the kid was older they let the kid picks it's own toys & other things, HE ended up figuring out he was a boy, but decided not to have the surgery because they didn't know if the boy parts worked or the girl & decided to keep them all as to not remove the wrong ones so that HE could have his own children 1 day.
Exactly I hate when the transphobia comes out about this. Cos klydan is a guy even if he was born female he doesn’t choose to then identify as female like topa does. And the most funny part to me was when someone starts refuring to klydan as the mom and I’m like even if we go by who birthed the child or layed the egg that makes bortus the mom
@@VincentMothling This is a joke, right? Even when this happens as a direct consequence of vicious misogyny, homophobia or other bullshit, you can’t help yourselves. Your desperation for ‘representation’ and lack of comprehending context is truly pathetic.
@@lateformyownbirth no? Cos like the only reason to actively call a person born female who identifies as male she/her is mild transphobia. Especially since no one would have done that outside of language barriers until it was revealed. I’m 50% sure that someone who was forcibly transitioned is not the kinda representation most trans people want Honestly the fact that people don’t like when you call out bigotry is hilarious
Klyden identifies as Male. I would prefer that folks would accept his identity despite this. Klyden may have been born female, but he does not identify as such. They are a fictional character, yes, but respect for identities MUST be maintained.
This is a basic decency for ALL trans people. Despite our status when we were either forced or born, we are how we Identify, and Klyden is Male identified and it should be respected. Perhaps he feels shame for his birthright in gender, but he STILL identifies as Male. And it is for HIM to decide who he is.
ok so i get the santa part plenty of the comments say the same thing.....what proceedure r they talking about?!?!!?! what was "altered" soon after Klydens birth??
Klyden was born female, but it is forbidden to have or be a female Moclan. In order to not be killed, all baby female Moclans are forced to become male. Klyden was born female but is now (supposedly) happily and proudly male and wants their daughter to go through the same surgery he did to become male herself. Bortus is incredibly against altering her now that the “ancient” human movie ‘Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer’ makes him realize differences can bring different strengths and glory.
Why the hell are you calling Klyden “her” it’s stated pretty clearly that everyone in his species’ society accepts him as a man. Like it’s stated in the show
Imagine being next door to this argument. And hearing these two dudes arguing about the significance of Rudolph saving Christmas. 😭
Dear Sir/ Madam,
Please proofread your comments and use punctuation. Sincerely,
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@@THE.Mr.Potato it’s not that serious
@@THE.Mr.Potato Bruhhh😭. My ass had to be fucked ALL THE WAY UP to type all that out. Thx G✨
@@baumeister5705 it's really not but the way it gave me a headache looking at it....
@@THE.Mr.Potato you're lame
For everyone wondering about why Santa is being mentioned, Bortus was told the story of Rudolph and how if his parents had decided to 'fix' his red nose then he wouldn't be able to save Christmas with said nose.
Ah a great story of how your differences make you a freak unless they're useful. Seriously tho, the original had santa shaming dasher or whoever the father was for rudolph's differences, man old people have insane lore for their children stories.
That’s a level of stupid so perfect for this show
That was deep….the delivery was unexpected lol
@massacremark6782 The original was the song the movie came after, in the song there is no implication that Santa even knew of the bullying
"Or perhaps you would have achieved glory, for guiding santaclause" cutt😂😂😂😂
Edit: been a while so i just wanted to say thanks for the likes❤️
Fucking made me laugh mate xD
What is the story behind **that**
So basically Boris and his pals Gordon and them watched Rudolph the Red-Nosed reindeer where I guess borders picked up the understanding of being prejudged and that being different can be a good thing😂😂😂 so basically Rudolph the Red-Nosed reindeer cured his bigotry that has been taught to him his whole life😂😂😂@@ronaldhudson169
@@ronaldhudson169 quick run down
These two wanted to change their baby's gender to male because their alien species frowns and hates females for some reason
They try to get the ship doctor to change the baby's gender and even try to get the captain to force the gender
However, after they show one of the parents the story about Rudolph, the red nose reindeer to convince him that just because their baby is different does not mean she will be failure
So when he says "Or perhaps you could've achieved glory for leading Santa Claus!" That's why.
This show is so good
I gotta watch it
Santaclause on christmas eve said the dialoge
My favorite part of all of this is he was given a very old Christmas story and turned it into an analogy to explain to Clieden about how he feels about having their child altered. The funnier part of this is that last line before it cuts off
The Moclans are actually very easily moved by old earth stories and culture. Ask the Moclan females about Dolly Parton!
@@nicholashernandez4611 true... True, good thing nobody found hello Dolly or all the old calamity movies
It's crazy how this parody of Star Trek has proven to be a far better Star Trek show than any of the actual modern Star Trek shows that have come out in recent years.
Bortus was invited to watch an "ancient" human movie about rudolph the red nose reindeer. Bortus Veeeery reluctantly attends. He becomes transfixed by the moral of the classic, and when Santa realizes that Rudolph hid what makes him different and unwelcome, he is angry at first...but then realizes, Rudolph's differences, may be what saves Christmas. Bortus has the same epiphany about his cultures hatred of females. That, maybe, acceptance, may result in glory. It broke down a rigid moral wall.
So cool how well these stories and ideals are brilliantly wrapped in humour, pain, surprise, honor, and tolerance💗
If I remember right his crewmates tried several different ways to convince him and none of them worked the Rudolph thing was a bit of a fluke but it's the one that stuck with him I also love that even after they lose the court and their daughter becomes their son what is first gift from his parents is a Rudolph plushie😊
@nicolesmith2297 my personal headcanon is that lamar and gordon wasn't actually trying to convince him and just used it as an excuse to drink with bortus and chose Rudolph as an excuse to the captain that they tried instead of just getting drunk
@@octopassi2528 I was thinking something similar, but more like they were going to try talking to him after the movie. Get him a loosened up with a bit of beer and a nice kid's movie, then try talking to him.
Then the movie did the job and they were just like "Yep! Totally planned that!"
This show actually comes across some good discussion. I like it.
Yep it sure does like in real life situations. Makes you think what you do in this situations
I dont know the full context but whatvabout this is a real life situation?
This is in regards to the LGBTQ+ community, additionally Regarding those who are born one gender but went through a conversion
@@joedepalo3230My understanding is this is an analogy for babies in our society who are born intersex (as in being both sets of organs), their gender ultimately left to the parents to decide, as unfortunately as I understand it, there can be many complications for intersex children. It is also addrsssing the damage it does keeping that information hidden from them even as they become adults and the shock of finding out that your entire life could have been entirely different (for better or for worse).
Their species has some poor opinions about being female to the point where they treat it as correcting a mistake surgically changing their females into male so that they can fit in their society. But their child is born within the federation so it muddies this idea as these two in particular have been exposed to many other societies that don't have such cultural and societal views. Possibly meaning that the future of their child should be left for the child to decide once they have developed the capacity to choose for themself. Unlike them who weren't given that option.
@@StripesChaosGremlinnot only intersex but yeah you're right.
Paragraph person!!!
Bortus (the one yelling about Christmas) is with Klyden. They are mates. Their race consists of like 99% males. If any are born female they are changed into Males. Klyden was born a female but was changed into a male. Bortus is upset because their new born has been born a female, originally he was going to have her changed into a male. But after the crew convinced him that being a female and different is not a bad thing. He wanted the baby to choose for itself when she is older. Obviously Klyden doesn't want that and sees it as, this is the way it must be and to have the baby changed into a male.
Spoilers: They go to their home planet, Bortus meets a female that was in hiding and she happens to be a very intelligent philosopher in hiding, that everyone from the planet all quote and reference (she used a male name when publishing) They go into court battle where Bortus fights for the baby to stay a female and Klyden fights to have her changed into Male. Bortus loses and the baby is changed into a Male. It kind of puts a damper on the relationship but they press on with lives. Their culture is crazy, if they want a divorce they will kill the other. They also pee once a year or something like that. And they lay eggs when they reproduce and they keep it warm by sitting on it.
Thank you?
This was the comment I was looking for
How does this culture reproduce if there are no females
Thank you
Wow excellent. Thanks.
The way this clip ends is such harsh whiplash lmfao
You better watch the show man.
@@gabrielgingras814 What if I don't want to? Huh, tough guy?
@@groovecrusader4924woa woa woa, we can all be friends here 😮
@@groovecrusader4924
Then you dont, but you'll miss out on a fantastic love letter to Star Trek, from Seth MacFarlane. The characters are great.
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Did my reply show up? It's not on my screen.
The "FOR GUIDING SANTA CLAUS" is so random and out of pocket when you don't think of the context 😭
That ending was perfect “You could’ve been Rudolph guiding Santa’s sleigh!”
An outcast in moclun society sure, but Not in an organisation with members from multiple star systems
I am confused cause I can’t decide between being emotional about how hard that scene goes or laughing about the simple fact that he keeps bringing up Rudolf
Bortus was invited to watch an "ancient" human movie about rudolph the red nose reindeer. Bortus Veeeery reluctantly attends. He becomes transfixed by the moral of the classic, and when Santa realizes that Rudolph hid what makes him different and unwelcome, he is angry at first...but then realizes, Rudolph's differences, may be what saves Christmas. Bortus has the same epiphany about his cultures hatred of females. That, maybe, acceptance, may result in glory. It broke down a rigid moral wall.
So cool how well these stories and ideals are brilliantly wrapped in humour, pain, surprise, honor, and tolerance💗
@@deemiller5024 well I knew that he watched Rudolf and that that’s why he talks about but the situation gives off this the random vibe and it’s just that it’s so random that out of every story he could have seen that convinced it was one of these Christmas stories out there
“Or perhaps you would have achieved glory-“
Me: “Yes!!!”
“For guiding Santa Clause-“
Also me: “Santa-what-now?!?”
He learned to accept females after watching Rudolf the red nose reindeer
Yep lol! Rudolph taught him how someone’s “deformity” or difference not accepted by the surrounding society may someday prove useful in unforeseen ways
Bortus was invited to watch an "ancient" human movie about rudolph the red nose reindeer. Bortus Veeeery reluctantly attends. He becomes transfixed by the moral of the classic, and when Santa realizes that Rudolph hid what makes him different and unwelcome, he is angry at first...but then realizes, Rudolph's differences, may be what saves Christmas. Bortus has the same epiphany about his cultures hatred of females. That, maybe, acceptance, may result in glory. It broke down a rigid moral wall.
So cool how well these stories and ideals are brilliantly wrapped in humour, pain, surprise, honor, and tolerance💗
Tbh
Klyden has always looked a little feminine, so this explains it.
I am not saying that there’s anything wrong with looking female or feminine, just saying that Klyden has some characteristics
I thought as much also
Yea Klyden is one of the few ppl of his race that actively use his facial expressions unlike most moclans
It also explains why Klyden is so much moodier than Bortus.
No lie klyden is definitely the bottom in this gay marriage
@@unclejoeoakland Bortus literally laid the egg that became their daughter
the orville is like… social issues presented in a way your gen x dad might understand. which is valuable.
Rudolph the reindeer shit always gets me with Botrus
Klyden: who is this Santa Clause you speak of Bortus?😅
I'd love to see the behind the scenes of this episode because there's no way they did this all without bursting out laughing
Bro i couldn't breath for like a soild 30 secounds after he mentioned santa
Bortus was invited to watch an "ancient" human movie about rudolph the red nose reindeer. Bortus Veeeery reluctantly attends. He becomes transfixed by the moral of the classic, and when Santa realizes that Rudolph hid what makes him different and unwelcome, he is angry at first...but then realizes, Rudolph's differences, may be what saves Christmas. Bortus has the same epiphany about his cultures hatred of females. That, maybe, acceptance, may result in glory. It broke down a rigid moral wall.
So cool how well these stories and ideals are brilliantly wrapped in humour, pain, surprise, honor, and tolerance💗
*his identity
If you can't learn from the series, don't post about the series
Yeah that bugged me as well
Whoever edited this short to end it there is a master of comedic timing
They are the best couple ever.
I love this storyline. They eventually changed the baby back to normal.
Plus the actor for Bortis is PHENOMENAL
99% of the time, I hate cuts. This one time, I'll allow it.
Dude i was so invested i forgot what changed he's mind
Klyden doesnt realise that the only reason to why it hurt him so much is because he was raised into this culture
He wouldn’t have been so upset if he found out when he was younger, if anything, he would’ve been angry at his culture and would’ve went into hiding like the rest of the females on his planet
He was so well raised into HIS culture to the point that he REFUSED to leave it even when it hurt him, even when it hurt his own child.
He only left it at the very end when it almost costed his child’s life
I think that’s because he never knew that u could be killed for being a female and when he realised this, he left.
As much anger that i hold against his character i cannot deny the fact that he did very much do his best as a parent
He played with topa he ate with topa he taught topa and topa even trusted him with personal information which shows goodness and topa knows this which is why she was so ready to forgive him at the end, and so does bortus
The only real villain here is the culture.
TL;DR?
@@crispycuero klyden don’t know culture bad
Topa know klyden good though
Sometimes admitting you were abused is the most difficult part. Moclas is a culture built on strength and uniformity admitting even to yourself is a cause of great pain. That’s why he regretted his decision and realizes that Moclan culture is broken.
Kylden was giving a surgery at birth that changed his biological sex to the gender he identified with. He assumes every female will internally identify as male like him. That is why he pushes for it for their baby and rejects her when she does identify as female (the same as her biology). He can't imagine being female even though he biologically was because he identifies as male. So how can she? Does that invalidate him?. It is a great play on transphobe rhetoric.
This arc was phenomenal
This is why you do not let doctors get happy with their knives on intersex children.
I would much rather homeschool them, and let them make their own choice.
homeschooling no, dude. It has no advantages, and full one disadvantages for the kids
@@JVandthebrotherhoodhonestly schooling has TONS of advantages, as long as you don’t forget that they still have to be socialized. I’d never accept my child going to a government or religious school.
@@UpperDarbyDetailing alright, have fun ruining your inocent kid's life. In a proper country this is ilegal. School is not just about memorizing stuff or socializing, there is a reason why you go to college to teach. When your kid needs a doctor try "homehospitalizing" too
@@JVandthebrotherhood 😂😂😂 you assume you know me or anything about what that homeschooling might be like. I’ve seen what went on in schools when I was a kid. I see what’s happening now. Sending them to school is what will ruin their life and their mental and physical health.
@@UpperDarbyDetailing yeah, keep telling yourself that to make you feel like you're right when all evidence shows otherwise. There is a reason why this trash is allowed in the USA, it's because it sucks. Just like security, healthcare system, infrastructure, policy making, and the list goes on and on and on
HE LOVES RUDOLPH SO MUCH 🥹
I haven't watched the show but I have seen a bunch of clips, and I always thought Klyden was the female in this relationship, guess I was right.
I really need to watch this show. It seems more Trek than Trek has been since... Voyager and DS9.
Yeah, yeah-wait, what about Santa 😅 😂😂😂😂
So emotional then “gained glory for guiding santa claus”
Why didn't she just not just get the procedure reversed? She'd be a lot happier, she sounds so angry all the time.
Why did you kept this from me
500 cigarettes?
What💀 tf did that come from
Santa Clause? 😅 There must be more on to this
Bortus was invited to watch an "ancient" human movie about rudolph the red nose reindeer. Bortus Veeeery reluctantly attends. He becomes transfixed by the moral of the classic, and when Santa realizes that Rudolph hid what makes him different and unwelcome, he is angry at first...but then realizes, Rudolph's differences, may be what saves Christmas. Bortus has the same epiphany about his cultures hatred of females. That, maybe, acceptance, may result in glory. It broke down a rigid moral wall.
So cool how well these stories and ideals are brilliantly wrapped in humour, pain, surprise, honor, and tolerance💗
Sometimes a lie will cost you everything. Tell the truth.
The ending was giving me a insane tonal whiplash. From engaging and dramatic to a full blown comedy 😂
Comedy? No you just missed the point of the analogy
It's crazy how both Orville and Ted are so good, but family guy is tanking
They are argue with such articulation.
Oh i get it now....all i found until now were level 8 ori 9
*his
I love the conversation this has about people born intersex, beautifully written
Well not exactly intersex they kinda just mutilate the females into males
It is not intersex, Topa was born female.
@@pbonfantiyes, but the reason it is written this way is to be an analogy of intersex people in real life
Comparing to intersex is bad faith, a intersex is undefined, so a choice is necessary for health reasons, as the person can have a lot of organic complications if unsolved, this case is a forced assignment surgery to conform to moclan standarts, in fact the change her sex was harmfull to her mind, she was born healthy. This is about using the scalpel on children for political reasons, is not even a analogy but a direct example.
@@pbonfantiforced conformity like what we have now when people who are trans can’t get the care they need. The laws against them forcing that conformity. Topa goes on to want to change her moclan society doesn’t want that to happen
So their race is all male and no females
Females are rare. Like 1 in 100 or something. So all females automatically gender reassigned to male. Now and again a parent decides to not to force it on there child but I think it has only happened once in 75 years which is fuked up.
I watched season 1 and i always loved how the moclans looked at human culture.
*That fact he can be taking about Santa Claus with a straight face!* 😂😂
What is the title of this movie
Wait? He's a reindeer?
Well.. that explains a lot about klyden
Kinda of creepy weird gay alien love ruins a otherwise good show until it’s turned into alien LGBTQ who cares keep it to yourself we’re it belongs.
Stop whining
@@flytrapYTP is what it is
*his identity
His identity.
Not this video misgendering Klyden LMAOOOO y'all are impossible
I mean technically speaking, withholding information isn't lying
Technically, a lie by omission is still a lie.
@@sol848
Not if it's NOT said
A lie of omission is a type of lie, it’s about withholding important information
@synder_sync7834
I'm still not say anything until people are ready to receive the truth Most people cannot handle outright truth
It's always best to be honest with your partner about who you really are to avoid... complications.
This is where the show gets weird. Don’t think I like it
I suppose. But that wasn't the point of this scene
Lucky the Klingons does not have this type of culture. This is gay version of Klingons😂😂😂😂
His*
This fact also really complecates their future child
Wait when I saw the caption it says she but in the video it says mate. So is this a gay couple or is there a female who looks the same
Struggling with understanding all of this 😮? But I love both Kleinden and Bortis the same... ❤️
Santa Claus?
Bortus was apparently recently told the tale of Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer, and really took the positive themes of individuality to heart.
Or perhaps you would have achieved glory for guiding Santa Claus 😂 Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer really hit his heart hard🤣
Y’all I finished this clip, scrolled to the next short, and it was the next part of this clip 😂😂😂
It was a genuine moment and then i heard santa clause.
I didn’t see this scene specifically so it circling back to the Santa Special caught me so off guard 😂😂
And yet, Klyden is the one who won’t accept Topa’s reversal.
Fuck yeah go Rudolph
Yet another episode about his out-of-mainstream crouch.
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This why I hate Klyden he doesn't know what he could have been and is always seem to be fighting against those he loves especially he's own Daughter who only wanted he's support
Its sad because this arguement could be made in America right now -.-
Being Devils advocate.... if they dont get the procedure then they wouldnt have met each other and lobed each other
That line of i still love you that hasn't changed but you lied should be given more credit because people really get scared easily if they admit a mistake rhey wont be loved anymore
"For santa clause on christmas eve" hol up wuh
Bortus and Klyden were going to have their baby girl surgically altered into a boy because their species considers being female to be a shameful deformity. Bortus changed his mind about the procedure after watching Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer.
I have watched this entire plot line through UA-cam shorts by now
I haven’t watched the show was klayden supposed to be female 💀
Parents who change their newborn baby's gender are sick. Would you want that to happen to you? Of course not because obviously you are proud of your gender. Why would you deny that fact to a newborn baby?
Yeah, exactly, the show is referencing the fact that in real life babies who are born intersex with both sets of physical genitalia characteristics are typically given surgery as infants in order to make their genitalia appear more normal, even though it can cause lifelong damage. All so everything can appear normal, it’s sick.
@@synder_sync7834 I don't believe in doing that. It's different from being a transgender. I believe children born like that should have the choice on what gender they are, & if they want to keep both part.
I know of a fanfic that talked about this. When the child's deformities where confirmed at birth & Drs offered the surgery they refused & decided to let the child decide. They used gender neutral colors & clothes etc for a few years then when the kid was older they let the kid picks it's own toys & other things, HE ended up figuring out he was a boy, but decided not to have the surgery because they didn't know if the boy parts worked or the girl & decided to keep them all as to not remove the wrong ones so that HE could have his own children 1 day.
bro crazy that ur misgendering a fictional alien 💀
If i hadnt seen this episode already, the ending of this clip would have thrown me so far off 😂
He had me till " Glory for guiding santa clause " bit lmao
Why is klyden more expressive than bortus?
there is past we wish didn't play out why share broken parts of us... why make it repeat in the present i don't want the future to hold bull shit
This is edited this didn’t happen in the show, it uses clips from the show but this didn’t happen
See ive been seeing orville or what ever this shows called endlessly on youtube shorts and i still have no idea about anything
I love listening to Bortus qoute Rudolph 🤣
Am i tripping or Bortus is just sounded like Kratos
Why does their entire race just sound like Kratos
I'm pretty sure Klyden still identifies as a dude
Exactly I hate when the transphobia comes out about this. Cos klydan is a guy even if he was born female he doesn’t choose to then identify as female like topa does.
And the most funny part to me was when someone starts refuring to klydan as the mom and I’m like even if we go by who birthed the child or layed the egg that makes bortus the mom
@@VincentMothling This is a joke, right? Even when this happens as a direct consequence of vicious misogyny, homophobia or other bullshit, you can’t help yourselves.
Your desperation for ‘representation’ and lack of comprehending context is truly pathetic.
@@lateformyownbirth no? Cos like the only reason to actively call a person born female who identifies as male she/her is mild transphobia. Especially since no one would have done that outside of language barriers until it was revealed.
I’m 50% sure that someone who was forcibly transitioned is not the kinda representation most trans people want
Honestly the fact that people don’t like when you call out bigotry is hilarious
This is the least gay gay couple I’ve ever seen
What? The last sentence lead to more questions.
So wait Klyden was actually born a girl
Klyden identifies as Male. I would prefer that folks would accept his identity despite this. Klyden may have been born female, but he does not identify as such.
They are a fictional character, yes, but respect for identities MUST be maintained.
This is a basic decency for ALL trans people. Despite our status when we were either forced or born, we are how we Identify, and Klyden is Male identified and it should be respected.
Perhaps he feels shame for his birthright in gender, but he STILL identifies as Male. And it is for HIM to decide who he is.
ok so i get the santa part plenty of the comments say the same thing.....what proceedure r they talking about?!?!!?! what was "altered" soon after Klydens birth??
Klyden was born female, but it is forbidden to have or be a female Moclan. In order to not be killed, all baby female Moclans are forced to become male.
Klyden was born female but is now (supposedly) happily and proudly male and wants their daughter to go through the same surgery he did to become male herself.
Bortus is incredibly against altering her now that the “ancient” human movie ‘Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer’ makes him realize differences can bring different strengths and glory.
So Klyden was born female?
“I love you. That has not changed” geez dude with a bumpy head making me cry.
They're so transmasc coded
What was that bit about Santa Claus?????
Why the hell are you calling Klyden “her” it’s stated pretty clearly that everyone in his species’ society accepts him as a man. Like it’s stated in the show
Bro doesn't pay attention
What was that about Santa Claus?!?