The Greens have been governing the realm for years, they have the better rulers, the better council, a sitting monarch who would be happy to let his experienced council rule, and their claim to the throne is literally backed by the same laws of succession that the entire realm follows. Aegon is still young and hasn’t fully formed yet, much like Tom Glynn-Carney (the actor) says, he would probably make for a great king if he had more time to learn how to channel his fire. Meanwhile, Rhaenyra has been doing absolutely nothing for decades, in fact she’s done everything possible to prove she’s an unworthy heir…and she’s got Daemon by her side, who is objectively the worst possible individual to hand the power of the Iron Throne to.
With literally every content creator I've seen, along with 90% of the audience, simping for team black and completely dismissing all their faults, it's refreshing to hear people who see the conflict the same way I do and actually give team green the props they deserve. I'm way more sympathetic to team green, especially since the writers OBVIOUSLY want everybody to be team black.
The character assassination the show does on the greens is so blunt and obnoxious, it really shows a lack of respect for the audience and is quite insulting. They think were fucking rubes. Green forever.
@OurHiltsHurt I mean it's not like the show necessarily makes the greens look bad (other than Aegon being a grapist that's fucking stupid) they just present it in more of a both sides have a legit claim stand point instead of how the books are more biased. This is especially evident in season 2 so far but this video was released before that so that's neither here nor there
@guerreiroazul3230 While real sigma Borros just bakes his cake 🎂 sitting on solid rock 🪨 "Valyrian steel crown headlock out of nowhere from Cole - Aegon didn't expect that crowning folks. Wait is that?! It's Borros Baratheon and he is going for the Stone cold chair!" - glass shattered and everything
What we will get - a dark souls/berserk/naruto trench coat and fingerless gloves... Possibly an ominous cloak and mask... They should just dub all Aemong says in Japanese at this point. Its so over..
Well if you look at the trailer and the "dragon fight scene" (around 2:10) hes not even wearing armor lol - also theres a promo somewhere that shows him sheathing his swords in the woods (rooks rest?) and hes also wearing just regular clothes not armor.
Team green is the only reasonable choice. Viserys immediately breaking the rule that got him the throne is literal brain rot. Best character on TG is Aemond. Worst is Larys
I think it's worse that he didn't do anything to secure the throne for rhaenyra or teach rhaenyra how to rule and curb her less than exemplary tendencies(mothering bastards and being if not dismissive outright hostile to the lords of westeros being prime examples)and ensure a peaceful transfer of power, sure there would have been some problems and possibly even a small rebellion or two but a massive civil war was entirely avoidable by simply teaching her how to rule and interact with her subordinates as well as making sure she doesn't do anything too destructive(insulting that lannister guy was pretty bad and mothering obvious bastards is even worse)
Team Green is terrible, only great character is Helaena, Aegon is unworthy of the crown, Aemond is more worthy and even then No, and Viserys was the King and he chose Rhaenyra so she’s the heir and should be Queen.
@randycrawford1132 Aegon was stolen his birthright. Blacks really think that just because Viserys said that his daughter should inherit the iron throne, people would actually follow her. She is a usurper, and the people mock her for it.
Video idea Aegon the first vs Aegon the second. We all know the goat Aegon the second is gonna win but let’s see how close “The conquerer” can get to winning.
Great tier-list gents! Always love to see a fair and unbiased tier list for Team Green - the best team. This video just reaffirms that I was right to sub. Cheers!
"now its time to talk about the good guys team GREEN" - : Instantly likes subscribes and commits to watching this video for the nest hour agreeing with everything said
Criston Cole did nothing wrong. He was coerced. Even if he fancied her back, it was still a tricky situation. Show plebs are weird, yassss qwueeen rhaenyra graping criston cole, and then they mald when Criston becomes extremely resentful of her when she tries to have her cake and eat it to when his honor is on the line.
Team green are the best All hail Aegon Second of his name King of the andals,the rhoynar and the first men. Lord of the seven kingdoms and protecter of the realm
Best Green Character has to be post coronation Aegon with his trusty pal Sunfyre like idk what Vissy T was thinking if my son claimed the best boy I would def make him my heir
Viserys should have just made Rhaenyra and Aegon battle it out, call them both to the dragon pit, lock it and tell them that to leave one of them has to be dead.
Aemond looks up to Daemon, u can tell because I'm sure he heard bad ass war stories about him especially zig zagging arrows at the step stones and chopping off the crabfeeder king in half without Viserys help.
Every symbol of legitimacy belongs to Aegon Targaryen ll. He has the conquerors name, wields the conquerors sword, has the backing of the people and all true lords of noble birth. All hail the king
Rhaenyra went to Dragonstone because it's the traditional seat of the Targaryen heir to the throne. She didn't abandon Kings Landing, she was following tradition. My opinion, anyway.
The House with the Plan 💚 I would way the worst from what has been shown to the audience is Alicent. That is not a conclusion I enjoy simply because she is being told stuff is happening behind her back and the Greens don't appear to trust her due to her empathies with Rhaenrya. From the show perspective, Alicent is a liability who has no control of the situation. Aegon has this problem, but it does appear to be somewhat mended as he appears to be taking on the role and will get into the nit and grit of the battles which is where I disagree in the Joffrey comparisons. I am not saying Alicent needs a sword or dragon to have agency, but what she does need is to take charge in the small council as being a dowager queen is useful to the Greens cause.
It is no secret that we live in a polarized world and our political system more tribal. We all have our own biases whether we would like to admit it or not. That’s why I wanted to say what a breath of fresh air this vod was. Despite our natural tendencies, you were both able to put that aside to look at just the facts alone. I thank you for being so fair and impartial.
Aegon was just a wasted character, exaggerated/invented faults aside. Even if they didn't want to go with a guy who'd be a "good king" in the medieval sense of the term. Martial and all that like Aemond. They could still have gone down a Richard II of England or Louis XVI of France route. Even combining the two rulers persaonalities/policies. Particularly in regard to the Louis XVI route as a well meaning but personally ill-equiped man destined to be king to early due to his own early father's death, much like Viserys. So many ways they could have made him a "bad king" without making him a "bad man" and what's shaping up to be a "tyrant king". Particularly annoyed because I know the actor who plays him has the stones to play a totally authentic hedonistic, power-hungry and cunning badass!!! Check him out as young Julius Caesar in TV Show - Domina. So if nothing else, he has the ability to if not play Aegon if not as a badass. As he did with a young Juilus Casear. He at least as the acting chops to play a more complex Aegon II. Rather than the barely three-three dimensional character we got Season 1 and possibly Season 2. Fingers crossed I'm wrong and we see some growth.
Love the new vid lads, keep up the amazing work! One theory i have regarding as to the shows constant sucking up to team black ( and im certain im not the only one to have this theory ), is that mushroom's perspective will be revealed in season 3 or 4, or perhaps one half of season 2, though i will admit that is certainly wishful thinking on my own part
I originally was Team Black, but then I heard other YTers talk about how tragic Rhanera is for not having a good father figure. King V is King. Unsubscribe if you disagree.
Team Black has zero cake while team Green has... I dont have to even have to say it. It should be clear to anyone with a brain that the Greens are in the right.
Marketing House of Dragons as Team Black and Team Green is really clever, much better strategy than over hyping a stupid Fan Theory that the producers and George RR Martin read in the internet, and when they executed in the TV Show ended in a disaster, but is pointless really, there aren't good or bad characters in this war, are degrees of how bad they are, discounting the children, some of them end being killed because arrogance or stupidity, but House of the Dragon of the Dance of the Dragon is George RR Martin version of Shakespeare Hamlet. No one remember how nearly all the characters in that play ended?
I disagree with every one of your videos, but I like all of them. They are the best thing to listen to while working out, giving me the rage to finish that last rep.
I think regardless of how it's like in the books and whether they move away from the grapist tendencies, it's already been established within the show now that he is a grapist. Nothing can change or redeem that now and people are valid to dislike his character and not be team green because of it. Kinda hard to root for a grapist ngl
I don't see why in a show with kinslayers, wife and child murderers rape is for some reason where we draw the line. Seriously Daemon is as bad as Aegon and if he is apparently fine, I can look past Aegon's sins too
“In an ideal world, every green character would be an S-tier character” I proclaimed all ruddy and cheerful after Jasper Wylde retrospect and chose to skip to see to uncover the gleeful mystery. For once, I think this world is perfect
Aegon II best character. Should have been called Aegon the merciful because not only did he spare Corlys, not only did he spare Baela, but he ALSO spared Aegon III. What did Rhaenyra do when she took kings landing? Beheaded Otto, beheaded Lord Jasper, and then tortured Tyland for some pocket change.
You are so right with this one You actually understand asoiaf Not like those meateiding simping boss women supporting liberals who are like 99% of the vieweship and the beta directors
The show is trash. They've spent all the budget on dragon special effect and the screenwriting and directing are abysmal. GOT was way better. Even season 8 is better than this.
It's easy to see why Rhaenyra was heir in the show. Viserys was a overall mediocre king who kept Westeros as a whole stable but was weighed down by his own failing body and dreams. I can easily see how the horror of having to butcher his wife to potentially save his son caused an overwelming desire to see the reminder of his love (Rhaenyra) in the best position possible. Even if the Greens showed to be the greatest thing since Valaryia I don't believe he would change.
Tyland "The Most Titanic Steel Testicles In the Seven Kingdoms" Lannister. What an absolute beast. Probably the best small councilman in Westeros history besides Septon Barth. Of course the show disrespects him and makes him a lame yesman when in fact he's basically a fusion of Tywin's genius ruthless pragmatism and Tyrions personal fortitude and loyalty.
For them to say “Aegon wasn’t like this in Fire and Blood”🙄 Fire and Blood was vague on purpose. It glossed over a lot of details and wasn’t even from any of the Targaryens perspectives, it was the perspective of Maesters and Mushroom. If the Lannisters wrote the history about Joffrey they’d say he was a galant and brave king who defended kingslanding against his usurper uncle. Of course the histories wouldn’t mention Aegon being a r*pist or forcing kids to fight to the death, especially since the Hightowers own Old Town, the Citadel, and the Maesters.
I wonder if Alys is actually Team Green? Or maybe "Team I desperately want to survive"? From FnB, we learn Alys tried to use her feminine wiles to seduce Daemon, but she failed to. Then, Aemond took her as his war prize- in other words, made Alys his freakin s*x slave, a literal object he could use as he pleased. I don't believe she could consent to sleep with Aemond, let alone developing romantic feelings for him! I think Alys didn't have to either cast a spell or be incredibly hot to make the freakin unexperienced 19 year old virgin ass Aemond "besotted" with herself. She was his first woman, doubtlessly more experienced than him, whether she was 25, 40, or really ancient. Good for her, if Aemond's infatuation had granted her a better treatment.Also, if Alys had actually been a witch/seer and foresaw the battle above the God's Eye , she had consciously sent Aemond to his death. Smells like regaining her agency and taking revenge on her captor rather than supporting the man she loved. A pretty badass move, tbf. Of course show adaptation of Alys' arc could be totally different. I'd rather they don't turn it into some overly romantic love story... After all there is no denying the HOTD Aemond differs from his book counterpart and the fact he was probably SA'ed as a young boy could have tremendous impact on how he perceives intimacy and sexual relationships. (No, I don't believe in Aemond's secret affair with Helaena. It seems rather ooc for both of them.I have no doubt they care about each other- when Meleys emerged from beneath the boards, Aemond shielded Helaena with his body and , in spite of her reluctance towards physical contact, Helaena reached out and touched Aemond's arm, as if she wanted to check if he was all right, but IMO it's just siblings' affection, and not a proof of something Targaryen going on between them. I can totally see Aemond seeking comfort in his gentle sister's presence, since character traits, making the book Helaena a good mother could have a soothing effect on him. I won't be surprised if Helaena turnus out to be the woman whose lap Aemond pillows his head on in the trailer, since in my view, despite Aemond's shirtlessness, that footage screams vulnerability , trust and non-sexual intimacy.)
Otto really held team green down. he has vision, standards, and can actually think about the big picture. Him telling everyone off for making stupid decisions will never get old. Absolute gangster. Absolute chad. Zaddy, I daresay. Easy S rank.
I think writers deliberately deteriorate Aemond 's character, he began to be likable. He couldn't be so fool to torture small folk.Just an intentional spoil for extra episodes.
Screw the blacks and greens, they all want to kill each other for iron slab that is shaped like a chair. When King V. Stated the real reason why Aegon conquered the 7 kingdoms. Ice Zombies beyond the wall. If Rhaenyra really wanted to become queen then she should have stayed in Kings landing and made relations with other noble houses. She should have found her own husband, hell married herself of to the Dorne. Unite the last kingdom through marry and maybe convince other lords that she care for them. (Tax Exemptions, Trade deals, city charters.) anything to help her win the throne. The greens are just as bad, Otto in his pursuit for power sold his family off. There wouldn’t be a civil war if Alicent didn’t marry and had kids with her best friend’s dad. Otto was the one who suggested Rhaenyra become King V. Heir but pushed his daughter to marry him. This war was made possible because Otto wanted his blood for the throne. If he truly believed in the good of the realm he would have tried and teach Aegon or marry Rhaenyra to his son or someone better. And if he truly feared Daemon, kill him or have someone else do him in. Both sides will make the realm bleed, and the family will shatter. And in the end no one wins.
Team Black really just sucks. The only ones I root for are Daemon, Corlys, and the kids. Everyone else is either boring as hell, severely flawed no matter how much the showrunners want to hide it, or both. At least with the Greens they keep their flaws honest and let THE AUDIENCE come to their own conclusions instead of being forced to see one team as "the good guys". Also, green council scenes are always the best scenes in the show, this isn't a debate.
Let us know which character you think is the best or worst for Team Green
Y'all trollin' lol
Aegon not S tier. He was scared to be king. How dare you compare anyone to lord Fray or Kruster????
@@TheCmascagni Season 2 Aegon is on demon time 😭
@@TheCmascagni that's what makes him great, a true leader isn't one who covets power, but the one that rises up to it
Please to a ranking of every Aegon, that would be so based
100% objective and unbias Tier Ranking of the Greens.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bias asf
The Greens have been governing the realm for years, they have the better rulers, the better council, a sitting monarch who would be happy to let his experienced council rule, and their claim to the throne is literally backed by the same laws of succession that the entire realm follows.
Aegon is still young and hasn’t fully formed yet, much like Tom Glynn-Carney (the actor) says, he would probably make for a great king if he had more time to learn how to channel his fire.
Meanwhile, Rhaenyra has been doing absolutely nothing for decades, in fact she’s done everything possible to prove she’s an unworthy heir…and she’s got Daemon by her side, who is objectively the worst possible individual to hand the power of the Iron Throne to.
With literally every content creator I've seen, along with 90% of the audience, simping for team black and completely dismissing all their faults, it's refreshing to hear people who see the conflict the same way I do and actually give team green the props they deserve. I'm way more sympathetic to team green, especially since the writers OBVIOUSLY want everybody to be team black.
What do you mean, they gave Alicent one of the most sympathetic glow ups I've ever seen.
Borros can read, he just couldn’t be bothered reading the essay Rhaenyra had sent him, so he got the maester to cliff note it.
Canonically he was illiterate.
Based Borros
@@OurHiltsHurtlegit thioo
@@jessjess23brooks89He has wars to fight with the Dornish scum he don’t have time to read.
Green is a cooler color so I agree they are the good guys
Based and green pilled
Green is quite literally not a creative color.
The character assassination the show does on the greens is so blunt and obnoxious, it really shows a lack of respect for the audience and is quite insulting. They think were fucking rubes. Green forever.
True!! Yeah if anyone reads the books and watches the show you can see how the greens are more in the right than not.
@OurHiltsHurt I mean it's not like the show necessarily makes the greens look bad (other than Aegon being a grapist that's fucking stupid) they just present it in more of a both sides have a legit claim stand point instead of how the books are more biased. This is especially evident in season 2 so far but this video was released before that so that's neither here nor there
I didnt even red the Books and am still offended at how blatantly they try to force theyre Black=good Guys, Green=bad Guys Narrative.
Whatever, they give Alicent the biggest sympathetic glow up ever.
Cristen Cole is the best best man to invite to a wedding.
"Watch out! It's Cristen Cole and he's got a steel chair💺 !!!"
😂😂😂😂
Lesser men want to sit on the Iron Throne, Criston will use it to bash people's head in, unbelievably based
@guerreiroazul3230 While real sigma Borros just bakes his cake 🎂 sitting on solid rock 🪨 "Valyrian steel crown headlock out of nowhere from Cole - Aegon didn't expect that crowning folks.
Wait is that?! It's Borros Baratheon and he is going for the Stone cold chair!" - glass shattered and everything
hes absolutely rec. a wwe character 😂
Yeah making Aegon a straight up Grapist was so silly. He's more interesting as some drunkard who avoided responsibilty.
Exactly, this show is marketed as the true story, but it’s all black propaganda, designed to portray the blacks, and the usurper, as the ‘good guys’.
But then again I would make no sense that he risked his life to ambush Mayles if he wanted to avoid responsibility.
But then it wouldn’t make sense for him to risk his life to ambush Mayles if he was avoiding responsibilities.
I think that characterization was too close to Robert Baratheon from the main series for them to keep it.
the greens found him passed out with a 12yo prostitute. It's literally the main thing you remember about him
Oh man. A Green supporter and a Walder Frey enjoyer? Finally found my GoT channel.
Really hoping Aemond’s drip reaches its full potential; armor described as nightblack chased with gold 🔥
He better be
What we will get - a dark souls/berserk/naruto trench coat and fingerless gloves... Possibly an ominous cloak and mask... They should just dub all Aemong says in Japanese at this point. Its so over..
Well if you look at the trailer and the "dragon fight scene" (around 2:10) hes not even wearing armor lol - also theres a promo somewhere that shows him sheathing his swords in the woods (rooks rest?) and hes also wearing just regular clothes not armor.
The writers tried the best to make Aegon the worst, and he ironically became the best character in season two
The logic the bad person = the bad character really didn't work. To me, not having a clear gole makes the protagonist flat and boring.
Team green is the only reasonable choice. Viserys immediately breaking the rule that got him the throne is literal brain rot. Best character on TG is Aemond. Worst is Larys
Larys is a useful spy master, Alicent on the otherhand doesn't serve any porpuse and she is in love with the enemy
I think it's worse that he didn't do anything to secure the throne for rhaenyra or teach rhaenyra how to rule and curb her less than exemplary tendencies(mothering bastards and being if not dismissive outright hostile to the lords of westeros being prime examples)and ensure a peaceful transfer of power, sure there would have been some problems and possibly even a small rebellion or two but a massive civil war was entirely avoidable by simply teaching her how to rule and interact with her subordinates as well as making sure she doesn't do anything too destructive(insulting that lannister guy was pretty bad and mothering obvious bastards is even worse)
Team Green is terrible, only great character is Helaena, Aegon is unworthy of the crown, Aemond is more worthy and even then No, and Viserys was the King and he chose Rhaenyra so she’s the heir and should be Queen.
@randycrawford1132 Aegon was stolen his birthright. Blacks really think that just because Viserys said that his daughter should inherit the iron throne, people would actually follow her. She is a usurper, and the people mock her for it.
@@guerreiroazul3230 she holds love for the ennemy that makes her a fool !
Aemond, Aegon, Cole, Tyland(post-op) are all S tier.
Damn, if you mean post-op like I think you are ruthless 😂
lol Tyland Pre Op is good too
Helena being the Elon Musk of team green 😂😂 IM GAAAGGGED
Going by these comments, Team Black isn't just a black hole of charisma, but also humor
Fact check true
Video idea Aegon the first vs Aegon the second. We all know the goat Aegon the second is gonna win but let’s see how close “The conquerer” can get to winning.
Or maybe an all the Aegon’s ranked video maybe? Would be too boring pitting aegon II against aegon the conquerer when the verdict is obvious.
@@mochalotte4702Maybe but seeing Aegon the second dunk on “the conquerer” would be pretty entertaining you gotta admit.
These are both great ideas. Aegon I is overhyped AF
Great tier-list gents! Always love to see a fair and unbiased tier list for Team Green - the best team. This video just reaffirms that I was right to sub. Cheers!
Happy Green awareness month brother ✊🏼
Aegon II Targaryen, first of his name! I love it 😂😂
Seriously guys, we really really need that Craster video before HotD starts back up.
Fax
We want to do the Craster video and we might actually do two videos. But we promise it will come out and it won’t disappoint
borros: “this sign can’t stop me, i can’t read!”
Based borros strikes again
The fairest and most accurate list I’ve ever seen and we definitely need a best House Sigils Tierlist
"now its time to talk about the good guys team GREEN" - : Instantly likes subscribes and commits to watching this video for the nest hour agreeing with everything said
Hope we didn’t disappoint lol
“I apologize aegon , i was not familiar with your game”
Criston Cole did nothing wrong. He was coerced. Even if he fancied her back, it was still a tricky situation. Show plebs are weird, yassss qwueeen rhaenyra graping criston cole, and then they mald when Criston becomes extremely resentful of her when she tries to have her cake and eat it to when his honor is on the line.
There's plenty of yass queen on both sides tbf.
Team green are the best
All hail Aegon
Second of his name
King of the andals,the rhoynar and the first men.
Lord of the seven kingdoms and protecter of the realm
Based and green pilled
I'm team black,and I respect characters from team Green like healena.
You forgot to add the first of his name at the end.
The magnanimous.
Rhaenys and Corlys should be on Team Green in my opinion. Why would they support someone who disrespected and literally murdered their son ?
Tbf in the book Coryls is definitely playing both sides
Best Green Character has to be post coronation Aegon with his trusty pal Sunfyre like idk what Vissy T was thinking if my son claimed the best boy I would def make him my heir
Viserys should have just made Rhaenyra and Aegon battle it out, call them both to the dragon pit, lock it and tell them that to leave one of them has to be dead.
I really need that craster video almost coming
Preach
Pray to the Seven and you shall receive
Seems like the show makes every team green member evil. Aegon the grapist, Larys and the feet, Criston Cole the bitter incel, etc.
Greens. The thinking Mans Faction.
team green needs the justice it deserves i am sick that everyone seeing them as villains
we need your guys review of each episode in depth when season 2 drops
We plan on doing a livestream every Monday after the episode
Good timing fellas ive been running low on hilt hurt content but seeing this upload got me torqued
lol glad we are able to provide. We will be coming making more videos soon too
Once again, your analysis is 100% correct
Aegon is a failson; Aemond has the grindset
Aemond looks up to Daemon, u can tell because I'm sure he heard bad ass war stories about him especially zig zagging arrows at the step stones and chopping off the crabfeeder king in half without Viserys help.
@@schemeteam2954FR while Aegon is gooning Aemond is pursuing the same grindset as Daemon
@@dr.s8972Aegon has that fathering grindset. He is going to pump out as many children he can for his line to continue.
wtf man this is the best channel of asoiaf universe, S+ tier
I know he might be edgey but Aemond is easily my favorite
Unironically the greens are the good guys
Correct
@@OurHiltsHurtyou a idiot
Finally unbiased and non blackcell cope, may the seven bless these men
Not being team green should qualify you for a handicap sticker
why? xD
Yes!! Close parking!! Where can I pick mine up?!
Based and green pilled
Ironic considering team green has two cripples, a legally blind man, and neurodivergent woman
@@jaxzor watch the video again and you'd know
Every symbol of legitimacy belongs to Aegon Targaryen ll. He has the conquerors name, wields the conquerors sword, has the backing of the people and all true lords of noble birth.
All hail the king
Rhaenyra went to Dragonstone because it's the traditional seat of the Targaryen heir to the throne. She didn't abandon Kings Landing, she was following tradition. My opinion, anyway.
Aegon the second! First of his name! 🤣
I finally found my people.
The House with the Plan 💚
I would way the worst from what has been shown to the audience is Alicent. That is not a conclusion I enjoy simply because she is being told stuff is happening behind her back and the Greens don't appear to trust her due to her empathies with Rhaenrya. From the show perspective, Alicent is a liability who has no control of the situation. Aegon has this problem, but it does appear to be somewhat mended as he appears to be taking on the role and will get into the nit and grit of the battles which is where I disagree in the Joffrey comparisons. I am not saying Alicent needs a sword or dragon to have agency, but what she does need is to take charge in the small council as being a dowager queen is useful to the Greens cause.
Yeah it sucks because they want to make Alicent a middle greyer character thus making her less definitive and assertive on a single focus goal
It is no secret that we live in a polarized world and our political system more tribal. We all have our own biases whether we would like to admit it or not.
That’s why I wanted to say what a breath of fresh air this vod was. Despite our natural tendencies, you were both able to put that aside to look at just the facts alone. I thank you for being so fair and impartial.
alicent thick as hell in the trailers so icl she’s a tier for me
Aegon was just a wasted character, exaggerated/invented faults aside. Even if they didn't want to go with a guy who'd be a "good king" in the medieval sense of the term. Martial and all that like Aemond. They could still have gone down a Richard II of England or Louis XVI of France route. Even combining the two rulers persaonalities/policies. Particularly in regard to the Louis XVI route as a well meaning but personally ill-equiped man destined to be king to early due to his own early father's death, much like Viserys. So many ways they could have made him a "bad king" without making him a "bad man" and what's shaping up to be a "tyrant king".
Particularly annoyed because I know the actor who plays him has the stones to play a totally authentic hedonistic, power-hungry and cunning badass!!!
Check him out as young Julius Caesar in TV Show - Domina.
So if nothing else, he has the ability to if not play Aegon if not as a badass. As he did with a young Juilus Casear. He at least as the acting chops to play a more complex Aegon II. Rather than the barely three-three dimensional character we got Season 1 and possibly Season 2. Fingers crossed I'm wrong and we see some growth.
Considering how good of an actor Tom is, a Richard II type Aegon would have been cool for the show.
Im on 35:29 and I have my suspicions that all team green is gonna be S tier 😂 love this videos.
Your suspicion was correct
@@OurHiltsHurt it was the only way. 🫡😂
I was literally at that time when I checked the comments hahah
This is the pre-nut video i was looking for. Thanks gator and donboy
I need that Craster video. I am on the verge of frenzy.
#JusticeForVaemond
Killed for speaking the truth :(
Dam me and Thom MUST find some way for us to collab with you guys and vice versa, its just gold listening to you guys.
Thanks Liam. Yeah we need to collaborate soon. Craster for the Throne!!!
Too bad the best part of the video where Don was choking on ghost wieners was ruined by House of the Dragon talk. 2:32
Can you remake this list and put Aegon on triple S and all the other traitors on F?
Aegon is the GOAT
43:02 seriously someone understood finally
Helaena is loved by the people! I love Helaena. I was a bit sympathetic of Rhaenyra and Daemon before what they did to Helaena and her babies.
How fares your Lord.
Well, he requests the honor of your father at his 90th name day.
Tyrion, “chuckles”. He can’t help it.
4 eyed raven... 1st of his name 🤣 you guys crack me up man 😂
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things
Glad you’re still enjoying the content
@@OurHiltsHurt in your opinion who do you like more Targaryens or blackfyres?
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465 Neither, I like the Baratheons.
Love the new vid lads, keep up the amazing work!
One theory i have regarding as to the shows constant sucking up to team black ( and im certain im not the only one to have this theory ), is that mushroom's perspective will be revealed in season 3 or 4, or perhaps one half of season 2, though i will admit that is certainly wishful thinking on my own part
omg yes fucking finally some people see facts for what they are
I'm loving this team green supremacy. I pledge my fealty with a sub
Aegon the 2nd, first of his name!!
I originally was Team Black, but then I heard other YTers talk about how tragic Rhanera is for not having a good father figure.
King V is King.
Unsubscribe if you disagree.
Yeah wtf. Who said this?
Team Black has zero cake while team Green has... I dont have to even have to say it. It should be clear to anyone with a brain that the Greens are in the right.
Marketing House of Dragons as Team Black and Team Green is really clever, much better strategy than over hyping a stupid Fan Theory that the producers and George RR Martin read in the internet, and when they executed in the TV Show ended in a disaster, but is pointless really, there aren't good or bad characters in this war, are degrees of how bad they are, discounting the children, some of them end being killed because arrogance or stupidity, but House of the Dragon of the Dance of the Dragon is George RR Martin version of Shakespeare Hamlet. No one remember how nearly all the characters in that play ended?
Tell me why Craester not prince who was promised and I’ll tell you why you’re wrong.
Based and Craster pilled
@@OurHiltsHurt 😂😂😂
Based Aegon, Based Aemond.
Enough said.
Based and true
I disagree with every one of your videos, but I like all of them.
They are the best thing to listen to while working out, giving me the rage to finish that last rep.
Just wait until we put out our Craster video
@@OurHiltsHurt😭🙏 how can you possibly defend Craster
Love you guys fr
not knowing how to read is highly based.
37:03 yes please I can't believe there are people like you who really appreciate alicent for who she really is
I just need a scope of how you're ranking these guys beforehand. Still confused.
What do you mean?
I think regardless of how it's like in the books and whether they move away from the grapist tendencies, it's already been established within the show now that he is a grapist. Nothing can change or redeem that now and people are valid to dislike his character and not be team green because of it. Kinda hard to root for a grapist ngl
Super cringe,show might as well be black propaganda
It dosn't change the fact that Aegon Targaryen is the one true king.
I mean, team black has Daemon who is a groomer, murderer and according to the leaks is also a wife beater
I don't see why in a show with kinslayers, wife and child murderers rape is for some reason where we draw the line. Seriously Daemon is as bad as Aegon and if he is apparently fine, I can look past Aegon's sins too
@@pg1448 Buddy we are definitely drawing the line at rape. Murder is one thing, as it is war but rape is unjustifiable.
begging for someone to make a parent trap house of the dragon fanfic 🙏🙏
We are praying to be old gods and new
Based and impartialpilled
This is the most unbiased Team Green analysis you’ll get. And thank you so much for the Super Thanks. We really appreciate it.
That last bit had me spitting. coffee
my favorite straight guys on yt just posted and I’m ready to spark my joint!!🥰
Thank you. I know there are a lot of straight guys on UA-cam so this is a great compliment.
“In an ideal world, every green character would be an S-tier character” I proclaimed all ruddy and cheerful after Jasper Wylde retrospect and chose to skip to see to uncover the gleeful mystery. For once, I think this world is perfect
Based list
And green pilled
I am team black but lets be real team Green has alot of great characters. Haelena and Alicent are among my favorite
Aegon II best character. Should have been called Aegon the merciful because not only did he spare Corlys, not only did he spare Baela, but he ALSO spared Aegon III. What did Rhaenyra do when she took kings landing? Beheaded Otto, beheaded Lord Jasper, and then tortured Tyland for some pocket change.
Lmao team black glazers are seething
It’s fun to watch
You are so right with this one
You actually understand asoiaf
Not like those meateiding simping boss women supporting liberals who are like 99% of the vieweship and the beta directors
Jesus
The show is trash. They've spent all the budget on dragon special effect and the screenwriting and directing are abysmal. GOT was way better. Even season 8 is better than this.
It's easy to see why Rhaenyra was heir in the show. Viserys was a overall mediocre king who kept Westeros as a whole stable but was weighed down by his own failing body and dreams. I can easily see how the horror of having to butcher his wife to potentially save his son caused an overwelming desire to see the reminder of his love (Rhaenyra) in the best position possible. Even if the Greens showed to be the greatest thing since Valaryia I don't believe he would change.
"Gelded" lads , you don't wanna get gelded . Gilded is covered in gold so viserys III was gilded . Varys was gelded
Tyland "The Most Titanic Steel Testicles In the Seven Kingdoms" Lannister. What an absolute beast. Probably the best small councilman in Westeros history besides Septon Barth.
Of course the show disrespects him and makes him a lame yesman when in fact he's basically a fusion of Tywin's genius ruthless pragmatism and Tyrions personal fortitude and loyalty.
For them to say “Aegon wasn’t like this in Fire and Blood”🙄 Fire and Blood was vague on purpose. It glossed over a lot of details and wasn’t even from any of the Targaryens perspectives, it was the perspective of Maesters and Mushroom. If the Lannisters wrote the history about Joffrey they’d say he was a galant and brave king who defended kingslanding against his usurper uncle. Of course the histories wouldn’t mention Aegon being a r*pist or forcing kids to fight to the death, especially since the Hightowers own Old Town, the Citadel, and the Maesters.
Goated takes lads
Someone needs to say here on UA-cam
@@OurHiltsHurt yessir! Looking forward to every upload :)
I wonder if Alys is actually Team Green? Or maybe "Team I desperately want to survive"? From FnB, we learn Alys tried to use her feminine wiles to seduce Daemon, but she failed to. Then, Aemond took her as his war prize- in other words, made Alys his freakin s*x slave, a literal object he could use as he pleased. I don't believe she could consent to sleep with Aemond, let alone developing romantic feelings for him! I think Alys didn't have to either cast a spell or be incredibly hot to make the freakin unexperienced 19 year old virgin ass Aemond "besotted" with herself. She was his first woman, doubtlessly more experienced than him, whether she was 25, 40, or really ancient. Good for her, if Aemond's infatuation had granted her a better treatment.Also, if Alys had actually been a witch/seer and foresaw the battle above the God's Eye , she had consciously sent Aemond to his death. Smells like regaining her agency and taking revenge on her captor rather than supporting the man she loved. A pretty badass move, tbf. Of course show adaptation of Alys' arc could be totally different. I'd rather they don't turn it into some overly romantic love story... After all there is no denying the HOTD Aemond differs from his book counterpart and the fact he was probably SA'ed as a young boy could have tremendous impact on how he perceives intimacy and sexual relationships. (No, I don't believe in Aemond's secret affair with Helaena. It seems rather ooc for both of them.I have no doubt they care about each other- when Meleys emerged from beneath the boards, Aemond shielded Helaena with his body and , in spite of her reluctance towards physical contact, Helaena reached out and touched Aemond's arm, as if she wanted to check if he was all right, but IMO it's just siblings' affection, and not a proof of something Targaryen going on between them. I can totally see Aemond seeking comfort in his gentle sister's presence, since character traits, making the book Helaena a good mother could have a soothing effect on him. I won't be surprised if Helaena turnus out to be the woman whose lap Aemond pillows his head on in the trailer, since in my view, despite Aemond's shirtlessness, that footage screams vulnerability , trust and non-sexual intimacy.)
Otto really held team green down. he has vision, standards, and can actually think about the big picture. Him telling everyone off for making stupid decisions will never get old. Absolute gangster. Absolute chad. Zaddy, I daresay. Easy S rank.
Allicent because she has been reduced to a victim in the show.
True, give us our book accurate Alicent
Aegon II is remembered in history as King
Rhaenyra is just remembered as a princess who tried 😆
I think writers deliberately deteriorate Aemond 's character, he began to be likable. He couldn't be so fool to torture small folk.Just an intentional spoil for extra episodes.
Screw the blacks and greens, they all want to kill each other for iron slab that is shaped like a chair. When King V. Stated the real reason why Aegon conquered the 7 kingdoms. Ice Zombies beyond the wall.
If Rhaenyra really wanted to become queen then she should have stayed in Kings landing and made relations with other noble houses. She should have found her own husband, hell married herself of to the Dorne. Unite the last kingdom through marry and maybe convince other lords that she care for them. (Tax Exemptions, Trade deals, city charters.) anything to help her win the throne.
The greens are just as bad, Otto in his pursuit for power sold his family off. There wouldn’t be a civil war if Alicent didn’t marry and had kids with her best friend’s dad. Otto was the one who suggested Rhaenyra become King V. Heir but pushed his daughter to marry him. This war was made possible because Otto wanted his blood for the throne. If he truly believed in the good of the realm he would have tried and teach Aegon or marry Rhaenyra to his son or someone better. And if he truly feared Daemon, kill him or have someone else do him in.
Both sides will make the realm bleed, and the family will shatter. And in the end no one wins.
Team vegetable
Greens are good for you
It took Me way too long to get the joke there's so many layers of irony
handing out S tiers like candy.
Team Black really just sucks. The only ones I root for are Daemon, Corlys, and the kids. Everyone else is either boring as hell, severely flawed no matter how much the showrunners want to hide it, or both. At least with the Greens they keep their flaws honest and let THE AUDIENCE come to their own conclusions instead of being forced to see one team as "the good guys".
Also, green council scenes are always the best scenes in the show, this isn't a debate.