You hit the nail on the head with sound proofing the room. If you remember the singer Jewel from the 90's and early 00's? She had a house set up with recording panels in the walls and wiring running under the floors. She also had false walls built and covered with cloth to prevent reverb/echo. She used that house as a guest house for her musicians and recording studio. We now own that house. Its so cool. You could be talking in the kitchen and go into the living room and it sounds so different without any reverb/echo. Half the house is finished that way. I've set up my guitar amps in what was the drum recording room and with both sets of doors closed you can barely make out my playing at a volume level that leaves my ears ringing for a few hours. Unfortunately, the room that I set my aquariums up in (used to be a two car garage/now a second living room) does not have the sound deadening false walls. When I was in the Air Force, living in the dorms, the dorm manager gave me one of the storage closets to use as a sound room. I took ceiling tiles and glued them to the walls to break up and deaden the sound. Again, I played at levels that'd leave my ears ringing but you could only hear muffled sounds on the other side of the door and walls. The trick is to break up and absorb vibrations and sound. Now that I'm 50+ years old and my hearing is pretty much shot, I don't really notice the sounds of water flowing through my tanks or sounds of multiple return pumps. Great video! Thank you for sharing.
@@tidalgardens One thing I forgot to mention above was the use of angles to break up the sound waves. In the drum room, for example, there are no 90 degree corners in the walls or where the walls meet the ceiling.
i use a silikon tube on my skimmer and get fresh air directly from outside this will reduce co2 and noise.. it´s every time a pleasure to watch your videos and i like to say thank´s for sharing your knowledge with all of us.. greetings from portugal
This video is exactly what I needed! Currently obsessed with trying to make my tank quieter. Thanks for the great video. Also, your production quality is top notch!
If you have bends in the plumbing in pipes that end up with a little air in them it amplifies the already noisy flow. You can apply foam pipe insulation to the pipes to deaden the noise as well as adding thermal stability.
if you have a sump in your stand, you can mount a sound dampening panel to the underside of your stand. I would recommend a sound panel designed for external use, less efficient but they are less likely for mold growth.
I use 1.5” samco silicone hose (it’s actually for cars - radiator hoses etc but it’s 100% silicone and has worked perfect for years now! Don’t know if the USA has an equivalent but any “performance” silicone engine hose would be fine? Worth a browse on ebay/Amazon!
Tip #10 - To eliminate cascading sounds of water gushing down into the filter socks in the sump, place an acrylic/glass DIY lid over that area of the sump. You can also buy from IKEA plastic kitchen cutting boards and cut it to size. An alternative way but more cumbersome long term is to place a small amount of filter floss on the surface of the filter socks (clinging onto or clamped onto something rigid) to allow the water to land on, silencing the falling water noise.
Unfortunately the skimmer I have is a little too large. The ones we are using currently are the 8000 series which uses a 870gph pump and the largest Varios DC skimmer pump is a 500gph pump made for a 6000 series skimmer. If it is an option in the future I am definitely going to upgrade to a DC model.
you can get large silicon tubing from Turbo intercooler piping, as well as teh ability to buy sorbothane sheets, which has been proven to reduce noise and vibration the most
Than, Royal Exclusiv in Germany sell the tubing. Granted, it's red and not super budget, but they do. I use them on my RD3 pumps, it makes them super quiet, you can just order direct from them.
Hello Friend, thanks for the tips. Glad you are ocd 😁. I work in biotech and thought I’d give you insight on silicone tubing as I use it quite a bit, USP class vi plat cured. You are having issues sourcing large id tubing because burst pressures and wall thickness for silicone do not apply well industrially over 1 inch. At that point of flow/pressure urs, you design in hoses which can be lined with Teflon if you like. You could buy hosing and cut them and outer screw clamp them over pvc piping at transition points. There is also braided tubing for help with pressure or suction collapse. Check out VWR/avantor or Parker/scilog for tubing solutions.
For those who opt for vortech pumps, understand that you add external noise with the motor being on the outside..they've gotten better but with age do get louder especially at higher speeds...and you will get some vibration through the glass. Internal pumps take up more real estate in the tank but make much less noise if at all.
i work on Hot tubs for a living, and i watched your video, i use a 1 1/2 vinyl tubing called shur-grip, its clear with light blue bands within the tubing. i did order some last week, and im waiting on it to arrive.
Program your flow pumps to do most of the work at night. And BTW the frequency makes a big difference. Like 36% vs 38% on my nero 5s make a huge difference.
So here is a question for you, my 650 ltr has an overflow & sump, but only one downpipe 😭 and I struggle with noise. What would you suggest to fixing the noise of water running and bubbling into my sump? Great video. Take care from🏴
There is a trade-off here, passively cooled LEDs tend to age out and lose color calibration faster than their actively cooled counterparts. To counteract this, passively cooled LED systems must have much larger heat sinks, making them more difficult to rig. Looking at a few actively cooled systems today, it looks like replacing the fans is pretty easy, which, with my experience with LED lighting over the years, this is pretty normal.
I have a nano and I really want to put my sump in my basement, way more volume and stability without the foot print in my living room. Couldn’t get my better half on board... yet
Mass loaded vinyl stuck to inside of cabinets quiets them down a lot.. ,some people use dynamat also but it’s more expensive,, it’s the stuff people use to reduce vibration for bass in cars 🔊
when building this place I wish I had the budget to install mass loaded vinyl under the entire floor upstairs and in the walls. I have heard it does a great job soaking up sound.
I’m with you on this one . Pumps and air flow products make too much noise. I have ocd on annoying nosies. When someone “accidentally” set their car alarm off. I’m like really again? STFU!
Than, you didn't mention the second drain of the BEAN Animal containing a small tube on top of the drain which runs down into the overflow box just beneath the surface of the overflow water. Any reason? This makes the second drain even more powerful because it deals with excess air in the drainpipe to flush away and thus creating a full siphon. The emergency drain is not a full siphon because air tends to always get into the straight pipe. The first and second drains are no straight pipes but have an elbow on top of them in order to silence the drain some more and create a somehow larger siphon. I have a Bean Animal type of overflow in my 40 gallon cube but as I had no experience (or the manufacturer I must say) the overflow box is a little too shallow which is why the first drain is positioned just a little too high so that it isn't as silent as I envisioned. RIP Bean Animal!
I personally wouldn't add silicone tubing just because the loops are connected through bulkheads on the bottoms of the tanks, mostly just to not tempt Murphy's Law into draining the tank because of damaged/ruptured soft tubing. Even with the trays, it wouldn't take long for it to drain a significant volume of water onto your floors given the head height at the pump, not to mention however much the sump holds that can be pumped by the return. Just my thoughts/word vomit
Be careful with telling people that they can DIY sound absorption panels. While this is somewhat true, sound absorption panels made by legit companies carry a special fire rating that you don't get with off the shelf cloths and foams that you can buy from your local hardware/sewing store. Just about anything that can be built DIY for super cheap is going to be fuel in the event of a fire while the pro-grade still will resist burning.
You hit the nail on the head with sound proofing the room. If you remember the singer Jewel from the 90's and early 00's? She had a house set up with recording panels in the walls and wiring running under the floors. She also had false walls built and covered with cloth to prevent reverb/echo. She used that house as a guest house for her musicians and recording studio. We now own that house. Its so cool. You could be talking in the kitchen and go into the living room and it sounds so different without any reverb/echo. Half the house is finished that way. I've set up my guitar amps in what was the drum recording room and with both sets of doors closed you can barely make out my playing at a volume level that leaves my ears ringing for a few hours. Unfortunately, the room that I set my aquariums up in (used to be a two car garage/now a second living room) does not have the sound deadening false walls. When I was in the Air Force, living in the dorms, the dorm manager gave me one of the storage closets to use as a sound room. I took ceiling tiles and glued them to the walls to break up and deaden the sound. Again, I played at levels that'd leave my ears ringing but you could only hear muffled sounds on the other side of the door and walls. The trick is to break up and absorb vibrations and sound. Now that I'm 50+ years old and my hearing is pretty much shot, I don't really notice the sounds of water flowing through my tanks or sounds of multiple return pumps. Great video! Thank you for sharing.
That is really cool. I would love to put up false walls with just sound absorbing in mind.
@@tidalgardens One thing I forgot to mention above was the use of angles to break up the sound waves. In the drum room, for example, there are no 90 degree corners in the walls or where the walls meet the ceiling.
Small foam sound panel inside the cabinet works well to isolate sump noise.
Than..... the sharpest dressed coral owner
i use a silikon tube on my skimmer and get fresh air directly from outside this will reduce co2 and noise.. it´s every time a pleasure to watch your videos and i like to say thank´s for sharing your knowledge with all of us.. greetings from portugal
Neoprene matt on the bottom of your cabinet with your sump on top. Goes a long way towards isolating vibration and also helps waterproof your cabinet!
Red Sea reef cabinets have this built in 😎
@@volaticus really !! Who’d have though…. i have a redsea peninsula and never knew :)
This video is exactly what I needed! Currently obsessed with trying to make my tank quieter. Thanks for the great video. Also, your production quality is top notch!
If you have bends in the plumbing in pipes that end up with a little air in them it amplifies the already noisy flow. You can apply foam pipe insulation to the pipes to deaden the noise as well as adding thermal stability.
Vests are coming back. Well done, fine sir.
Thank you very much for all this educational content - incredibly useful
if you have a sump in your stand, you can mount a sound dampening panel to the underside of your stand. I would recommend a sound panel designed for external use, less efficient but they are less likely for mold growth.
Than: I take this to a super extreme level
Yeah, “this” 😂🤣
I use 1.5” samco silicone hose (it’s actually for cars - radiator hoses etc but it’s 100% silicone and has worked perfect for years now! Don’t know if the USA has an equivalent but any “performance” silicone engine hose would be fine? Worth a browse on ebay/Amazon!
Radiator or inter cooler hose was the first thing I thought of as well
Vibration dampers...we used them when installing standby generators in mech rooms.
I make a cover top for all over flow boxes. It not only quites the noise but it also keeps the jumpers from getting in there as well.
Tip #10 - To eliminate cascading sounds of water gushing down into the filter socks in the sump, place an acrylic/glass DIY lid over that area of the sump. You can also buy from IKEA plastic kitchen cutting boards and cut it to size.
An alternative way but more cumbersome long term is to place a small amount of filter floss on the surface of the filter socks (clinging onto or clamped onto something rigid) to allow the water to land on, silencing the falling water noise.
I run flexible lines which reduces noise.
I utilize food grade PU hoses with stainless spiral embedded for overflow and pump.
You can also retrofit your skimmer, change your old pump to a DC one, it works beautifully.
Unfortunately the skimmer I have is a little too large. The ones we are using currently are the 8000 series which uses a 870gph pump and the largest Varios DC skimmer pump is a 500gph pump made for a 6000 series skimmer. If it is an option in the future I am definitely going to upgrade to a DC model.
Love the vid as always Than keep it up. Building is looking more and more amazing.
Thanks a ton!
you can get large silicon tubing from Turbo intercooler piping, as well as teh ability to buy sorbothane sheets, which has been proven to reduce noise and vibration the most
The most important video in reefing history.
Than, Royal Exclusiv in Germany sell the tubing.
Granted, it's red and not super budget, but they do.
I use them on my RD3 pumps, it makes them super quiet, you can just order direct from them.
Lol sure if you want to spend 130 euros per meter.
@@user-rk3id2zf8c LOL agree, but it's pretty substantial tubing. and it's 80 euros haha (not even kidding)
Sicce sells dc skimmer pumps that you can add to most small-medium sized skimmers. I think the Sicce PSK SDC 1200
I ended up going with something much larger in my recent video - ua-cam.com/video/XG2Jno6GzwE/v-deo.html
Excellent video thank you! Looking sharp
Hello Friend, thanks for the tips. Glad you are ocd 😁. I work in biotech and thought I’d give you insight on silicone tubing as I use it quite a bit, USP class vi plat cured. You are having issues sourcing large id tubing because burst pressures and wall thickness for silicone do not apply well industrially over 1 inch. At that point of flow/pressure urs, you design in hoses which can be lined with Teflon if you like. You could buy hosing and cut them and outer screw clamp them over pvc piping at transition points. There is also braided tubing for help with pressure or suction collapse. Check out VWR/avantor or Parker/scilog for tubing solutions.
That suit... sharp and snazzy. I like it!
Tips on how to make a Maxpect Gyre 230 more quiet? You can here the pump run up and down when it is changing flow.
Those pumps need to be cleaned regularly or else that stuff happens
@@tidalgardens What is regularly? Like every month?
For those who opt for vortech pumps, understand that you add external noise with the motor being on the outside..they've gotten better but with age do get louder especially at higher speeds...and you will get some vibration through the glass. Internal pumps take up more real estate in the tank but make much less noise if at all.
Cars use large Dia silicon tubing, for the air intake box. Like 100mm or so.
Love your setup just in a smaller personal scale
i work on Hot tubs for a living, and i watched your video, i use a 1 1/2 vinyl tubing called shur-grip, its clear with light blue bands within the tubing. i did order some last week, and im waiting on it to arrive.
Thanks for the tips!
Incredible video quality. I could see the pores in his skin.
Program your flow pumps to do most of the work at night. And BTW the frequency makes a big difference. Like 36% vs 38% on my nero 5s make a huge difference.
Lids for your overflows and sump compartments
thanks this will help me reduce noise in my reef tank!
Glad I could help!
Than plays GQ suit against 2020. Super effective!
Royal Exclusive sells these tubes and even complete sets for acoustic decoupling
Great vid as always. The word you keep looking for is dampin. And the objects that do this are referred to as dampers.
So here is a question for you, my 650 ltr has an overflow & sump, but only one downpipe 😭 and I struggle with noise. What would you suggest to fixing the noise of water running and bubbling into my sump? Great video. Take care from🏴
Tip number 10: avoid lights that have fans. They are by far the noisiest equipment in my tank.
That is a good point. As these fans get older they make more noise too.
There is a trade-off here, passively cooled LEDs tend to age out and lose color calibration faster than their actively cooled counterparts. To counteract this, passively cooled LED systems must have much larger heat sinks, making them more difficult to rig. Looking at a few actively cooled systems today, it looks like replacing the fans is pretty easy, which, with my experience with LED lighting over the years, this is pretty normal.
I have a nano and I really want to put my sump in my basement, way more volume and stability without the foot print in my living room. Couldn’t get my better half on board... yet
I don't know if they make silicone tubing, but, Spriatex will do custom tubing in any length,shape and color you desire.
Thank you for the tip, I will check it out. I have not heard of Spriatex before.
Here in Holland we can get up to 50mm (almost 2 inch) in Silicone tubing. Let me know if that might be helpful.
Mass loaded vinyl stuck to inside of cabinets quiets them down a lot..
,some people use dynamat also but it’s more expensive,, it’s the stuff people use to reduce vibration for bass in cars 🔊
when building this place I wish I had the budget to install mass loaded vinyl under the entire floor upstairs and in the walls. I have heard it does a great job soaking up sound.
I’ve was considering it when I lived in an apartment but yes $$
It's surprisingly expensive (I think?) But USplastic have 1.5inch ID silicone tubing in stock.
Thanks! I will have to check it out.
I'm one of the crazy people that likes the sound of trickling water, I know, I'm crazy
Me too Pion. It is so relieving to pion a shrub, outdoors.
Same! I fall asleep to waterfall,noises.
Word
You are my favorite reefer🤩
Check McMaster-Carr for silicone tubing.
any advise on lighting noise reduction?
Design your cabinet to contain the noice from the equipment, and design the cladding of the cabinet to improve the overall acoustic in the room 😁
I have a way to quiet down the tank.... I just turn my TV up :D :D
I’m with you on this one . Pumps and air flow products make too much noise. I have ocd on annoying nosies. When someone “accidentally” set their car alarm off. I’m like really again? STFU!
Than, you didn't mention the second drain of the BEAN Animal containing a small tube on top of the drain which runs down into the overflow box just beneath the surface of the overflow water. Any reason? This makes the second drain even more powerful because it deals with excess air in the drainpipe to flush away and thus creating a full siphon. The emergency drain is not a full siphon because air tends to always get into the straight pipe. The first and second drains are no straight pipes but have an elbow on top of them in order to silence the drain some more and create a somehow larger siphon. I have a Bean Animal type of overflow in my 40 gallon cube but as I had no experience (or the manufacturer I must say) the overflow box is a little too shallow which is why the first drain is positioned just a little too high so that it isn't as silent as I envisioned. RIP Bean Animal!
The second drain is the one that people modify the most. I favor the simplicity of just keeping it a straight pipe.
Silicon mats, silicon pipes and ball valves solves all ... :)
looks like large diameter silicone tubing is on ebay
Make a panel printing that glows under blues
It's possible I bet. I met some artists that make artwork that fluoresces in actinic light.
0:55 Reeftank in a BEDROOM. What crazy person would EVER do that. hahahahahaha
oh right... I did. ._.
Me. 320g plumbed into a 1200gal system
Insulate your stand and hood. Having everything closed in.
Good info thx 👍
Like the topic. Good vid
Appreciate it
I personally wouldn't add silicone tubing just because the loops are connected through bulkheads on the bottoms of the tanks, mostly just to not tempt Murphy's Law into draining the tank because of damaged/ruptured soft tubing. Even with the trays, it wouldn't take long for it to drain a significant volume of water onto your floors given the head height at the pump, not to mention however much the sump holds that can be pumped by the return. Just my thoughts/word vomit
I got my tank next to my bed and the sound doesn't bother me.
McMaster carr 5296k371 sold by the foot
So this should be called the "be an animal drain" is it just me or does this sound a lot cooler?
5:58 sea apple
Was this filmed with the new camera?
I've had a C200 for a while, but yes, this is the newer camera.
Pic lights without fans
That is a good point. As fans get older they make more noise.
Cast your own tubing
I messaged you on Instagram regarding the silicone tubing
Be careful with telling people that they can DIY sound absorption panels. While this is somewhat true, sound absorption panels made by legit companies carry a special fire rating that you don't get with off the shelf cloths and foams that you can buy from your local hardware/sewing store. Just about anything that can be built DIY for super cheap is going to be fuel in the event of a fire while the pro-grade still will resist burning.
Why bother looking for someone that sells silicone tubing. It may be far easier to make your own.
Just wear earplugs or music
Earplugs
1st :)
3 ads before I hit the 10min mark...you're going to have one less follower if this bullshit keeps up
shut up bro