Jeffree revived the allegations against James Charles with Blaire White's help. Jeffree doesn't speak out, he deflects and uses people and of course Blaire was down to help her racist friends.
Pheonix TaunWangBam either way jeffree still used her of her past with sexual assault and then sensed the voice memo knowing it would trigger her and deter her away from the davhie vanity stuff, she litterally posted a story saying she’s not going to talk about it anymore which sounds so stupid
I bet Jeffree and Shane won’t be friends any more within the next couple of months. Jeffree will move on to someone else like he always does and leave Shane.
Yh you wonder why all these videos came out recently about Shane when all the heat was on jeffree especially when jeffree has said he has evidence on everyone
Luke Ohalloran you would think since they are like “family” Jeffree would defend Shane but instead he’s been promoting his 50 shades of grey pallette 🤦♀️
"I have dirt on everyone and they know to keep their mouths shut." Jeffree thinking he's Al Capone over here people HAVE GOT to speak out against him....Even BLAIRE WHITE said "if I'm found dead in a ditch somewhere it was Jeffree." like holy shit....Gabbie Hanna recently tweeted: I'm saying this again publicly out of fear-if anything happens to me/my loved ones, it's not an accident. This is crazy.
Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if Jeffree was the one digging up Shane’s past. It’s good that people call Shane out for his old videos but the timing seems really suspicious. 🤔
He wanted someone else to go out and say "there is this memo and it's legit" so that he doesn't have to be the one who breaks the silence after the victim asked....well blaire white took the bait
I almost sure that voice memo is fake , James Charles may be annoying and immature but I don't think he is that stupid to try to sexually assault a big youtuber.
Because he's a coward or a liar (or both). If he did have the voice note, he'd be protecting a s*x off*nder. If he doesn't, it's slander and it'll still be illegal.
@@VC-ux3wb Blaire actually talked about the Jeffree and Dahvie stuff. She took a video by Tehmimi which stated that Jeffree distanced himself from Dahvie but later went on tour with him anyway. Blaire only had shown the first part of this story and after a few of her fans pointed that out she straight up blocked them.
Lenny P For real. And how did she even know the waiter wasn’t gay or bi? Like last time I checked gay and bi people look the same as everyone else. Like you said it’s homophobia.
Kara and Lenny P YES! im a lesbian and if men hit on my i dont like it but i brush it off but its seen as flattering or just boys being boys but when a lesbian does it to a straight woman its predatory smh the double standards are gross
The only reason he was “inspired” by Jenna was because her apology was well received. If it wasn’t he wouldn’t have. Jenna seems to genuinely want to grow and is sorry. Shane did it to try and save his “good boy” image.
Emelia Libbesmeier what got me was he was blaming this on his childhood... Boy please, I have living in poverty, I was sexually assaulted and bullied horribly. Never in my life acted this way and never wore blackface because I thought it was a joke or described a child as “sexy” . It’s not funny. It’s horrible. He doesn’t get to use his past as a fucking excuse. He doesn’t get to use mental illness as an excuse. At some point he needs to stop pointing fingers and own up to his shit and seek help. Period.
He's using his mental health and trauma as an excuse, but if he has enough money to get a golf cart, to drive around instead of walking, he can afford getting treatment like therapy, which is something not everyone has access to
Great point! I know so many people trying to get a therapist and they can’t and guess what... they don’t suddenly have the urge to do black face because they are going through a rough time
Yes! The first step in getting help is admitting you need it. But if he were to admit it, then whenever he will do a "joke" like that, he won't be able to play the mental health card.
its so manipulative aswell am i supposed to ignore all the racist shit and be like oh im so sorry for your childhood!?? and ignore everything? sounds like bs..weird..
@Alien X he cant but hes talking like he wasnt the person that done all that shit hes not owning up to it and apologizing hes making excuses and being manipulative
@Alien X these podcast and sexual comments about children are from the past 5 years. Not that long ago... it's fucking gross for a 30 year old man to talk about fucking his cat and calling 6 year olds sexy.
Not making the mistake of jumping the gun and assuming that James is a “predator”. Who knows if that recording is real, Jeffree can literally pay anyone to say random shit. Unless the victim is ready and willing to come out with a statement I don’t think we should cancel James immediately like a lot of us did.
I honestly think James might of done it but I think it’s something like he grabbed someone’s ass without permission or something that would make sense why they said he needed “a slice of humble pie”. And now it’s gone too far if they released the voice note it might be anti climatic to everything going on.
Linda Wilson true but in those videos that have James and Grayson together Grayson always looks really uncomfortable around James. Wouldn’t be surprised if James actually sexually harassed someone.
I agree. A voice note can very easily be made or edited by anybody. And if it is real, with how dramatic these people are, I wouldn't be surprised if it was more like harassment than assault since I too have been to high school and college, and honestly have not known many men to take the initial "no" or "I'm not interested" without further attempts. Not saying that's OK, but it is pretty normal for the age James would have been, and the others have not given much in terms of context.
They continued to follow him when they knew of his crimes, saw how he treated people (including his fans). They’re not gonna stop now. They just don’t care
I used to be his fan but seriously there is so much stuff people should've woken up like I did some time ago. I tried to explain why they shouldn't support Jeffree, they were like "UHH where's the proof??" Like have you not seen JS's video of James!? What about the other stuff?? Have you been under a rock?
Yeah he was literally like it was a sign to make a video you shouldn’t need a sign to apologize for a racist past also if he would have never been called out he never would have apologized in the first place
@@myjumpsuittakesmeshigh2022 yes but it wasnt a thorough and genuine apology. it was due to being scrutinized for it, just as he is today which forced him to make an apology as a way to not get cancelled. he even admits this, how all of his apologies were shit in the past, and his lack of action to correct and rectify that behavior
The BIG difference is that nobody was coming for Jenna. She owned up and reflected on her own shit. Shane only apologised AFTER his content became a problem. So when he says he was "inspired" by Jenna it's absolute BS. 🤙🏽 EDIT: Jenna also expressed her continued support for the black community as an ally during this time and removed herself. Which shows that she is actively also trying to make a difference. Shane however issued a half assed apology and isn't doing anything to change, still hanging out with racist ass Jefferson Staircase and isn't/hasn't been trying to uplift the communities he built his clout over for decades. Apology: Rejected.
@@douae5857 Thank you for that addition! He's crossed lines that you cannot come back from and has made statements that are very unsettling to communities of colour and said unforgivable things about children. I've always said that karma catches up to you and it's about time that it did.
Childhood trauma does not equate to ‘dark humor’ not that kind of dark humor. I may make light of my situation but would never talk about kids in that way, EVER!
Too Tired To Care i have childhood trauma and have extremely dark humour but even i have boundaries. shane can’t excuse it as dark humour when people who actually have dark humour still have boundaries
Exactly! I'm a victim myself, I might make jokes about *my* situation, about what happened to *me*, but I'd rather die than call a 6 year old sexy as a "joke." That is just disgusting.
Too Tired To Care kindda? Like I have a friend he makes this kinds of jokes to laugh at how people are disturbed or creeped out by the things he said . They say it is dark humor but it ain't
I knew someone that said to me once "id rape her" ... I said thats disgisting and i dont want to hear that again... People who have sufferd from a tragic childhood know theirs no excuse
Plus they have a massive audience. They basically raising a generation of kids to think that way. He wasn’t responsible with his platform. Now there’s probably a bunch of kids about thinking all of this stuff is okay.
Every time Jeffree has a “best friend” he uses them for clout, they somehow get “cancelled” and Jeffree eventually turns on them.. I’m waiting for Jeffree to turn on Shane too
It bothers me how they’d rather make UA-cam videos instead of reporting a CRIME to the police. The victim probably didn’t sign up for his voice memo to be passed around from one person to another.
They can't report the crime for the victim, that's the victim's job and at least they didn't reveal the memo publically which would be worse. If they make the report and victim stays silent, they'll look dumb as fuck. I think the reason why the memo is being revealed to some people is to prove that Jeffree did not lie about the molestation story. My view is that the victim really did contact Jeffree about the story, but then decided to back out when things got to serious. So it made Jeffree seemed like he lied. But even if Jeffree was telling the truth, that doesn't dismiss all the manipulative and cynical things he's done. Right now the victims is the only person with the power to put all of this to rest but they don't want to come forward which is completely understandable.
here's a thought. jenna directly showed us what she was apologizing for and it felt genuine. shane skirted around mentioning what he was actually apologizing for, so his apologies didn't feel legitimate. conclusion: the more direct a person is about saying what they did wrong, the more sorry they really are.
And when people said something to her about the videos, she privated them and stopped profiting off them. Shane didn't until the heat really hit him, he had it on merch until as late as last year
abstract_tiger okay so he was touched as a child sure but their is no reason for him sexually assault animals. He’s been on camera sexual assaulting animals multiple fuckin times.
@@marandabolish He's old, he has the money for therapy. We understand that he was abused but nobody has any excuse to be sexualising young children, be racist towards oppressed groups and being a goddamn asshole them using "I was abused! I have shitty mental health!" as an excuse
@@marandabolish I was sexually assaulted when I was 12, I still understood that simulating a sex act with a poster of an 11 year old was wrong and that it wasn't "funny" to call children sexy, to give him and any abuser a "get out of jail free" card like that not only absolves them of accountability and consequences for their frankly disgusting behaviour, it also paints every survivor of that kind of abuse as a potential predator and makes it far harder for us to not only open up about our experiences but also to move forward in our lives because everyone will expect us to do something like this, that's what minimizing and excusing Shane's behaviour does
@@marandabolish Yes, everyone responds to trauma differently, but that still doesn't give him an excuse. Don't stan predatory behavior, it's not a good look.
Thank you lyla ppl tend to forget that pofc aren’t the only ones who tend to get bashed. No race is safe from ppl like Shane. Especially the Asians when everyone found out about corona and found out it was from China 🙄
James Charles = cancelled / no receipts or evidence Jeffree Star = not cancelled / receipts / proof / evidence Can someone please explain how jeffree just slips through the cracks on every shitty thing he does or has done, like even shane has been cancelled.
Because he's a shitty person. People know that he's a shitty person and they've accepted it. We expect better from people who we hold to a higher standard.
@@ereristark425 yeah its really sad for people to accept this, no surprise he got Millions and millions of stan, even i'm embarrassed to be his stan last year, but my eyes finally open and sees how toxic he is, just hope more and more people will see the truth about him.
ANDROID MIKE I couldn’t agree more. People will always support him because they don’t want to let go of something they have supported and invested so much time and money into, kind of sounds like a manipulation tactic if you ask me.
Camille Lambert I know but he has been losing subs, it’s like 400k now which isn’t a lot for him but I think he is on his way out if you know what I mean.
he keeps deleting comments on the apology video, but like every other comment is, basically word for word, “anxiety and depression is not an excuse to sexualize children, shane” i have to stan
That’s what I kept thinking, he said “us, Shane and I” yet he isn’t going down like Shane. And if one falls, they’ll be more people worried about Shane and bringing him down, rather than worrying about J
@@star_is_deactivated4731 my theory is,he had to divert attention because if we had kept digging we would find something even worse than what we already know.
The way Jeremiah Starfish used Shane as a shield in interviews and podcasts when there were accusations against him but now that Shane “needs help” JS is gone ...... he’s an evil genius, I’ll give him that.
I really don’t like the excuse “It was a different time.” Like just because it was more socially acceptable DOESNT MAKE IT RIGHT. It wasn’t ok then and it isn’t now. Slavery was more socially acceptable back in the 1800s, but it wasn’t right then and it isn’t now. Why do people keep using this excuse? Just say you screwed up and own it! No more excuses!
Exactly! Even in the 2000’s blackface was not acceptable I don’t know why people think 2010 was the late 1800s/ early 1900s. Even back then other black UA-camrs spoke out against Shane and people came at their necks
It was 'acceptable' because white people literally didn't give a shit about it. Aka it was acceptable to them and fuck what everyone else thought. In Shane's podcast (before I stopped listening to him entirely), he interviewed Jaime Kennedy (a shitty so-called comedian) who did black/brown face as part of his show and they both agreed it was 'what comedy was at the time' and Shane was still obviously bitter about facing backlash against his blackface videos. He didn't sound remorseful. He sounded angry at being told what he did was not okay. And it should be no surprise that Shane thinks of this guy as his comedy idol.
It’s really upsetting do I think this is ever acceptable! HELL NO. I think everything going is so heartbreaking and to see people grow and never admit that they grew too and address issues like this head on is ridiculous. You never have to wait to admit you’re in the wrong. As soon as you grow into who you’re proud of in yourself you should stand up and take accountability for who you were and show and address everything you did wrong in the past. Explain why you don’t agree anymore no excuses; leave it all out on the table. Do I think people should hurt others and be so angry over something as a society we never addressed? I don’t know but I do know that no matter who you are if I (personally) ever did something like this even on a smaller scale I’d completely fess up. No excuses, no bouts of inspiration, just honesty. If black face had been taken out of theatre in school competitions then why put it out on UA-cam? If you have issues go to therapy. Black face from what I understand during those times he posted those videos was made illegal for the rules of uil one act play which I participated in. So using it was never an excuse for that time in society it was wrong way before then and it still is wrong today.
Blaire speculates in her video that Jeffree is such a shithead that he would hang on to proof of a sexual assault allegation for later use as blackmail or “tea” against James.
Ashley Thompson I lost any respect for Blair when she made the kaityln Bennett video and now she stated on her insta story that Shane was somehow manipulated into this. Extremely disappointed as she was one of the few Republicans I respected.
Watch the entire UA-cam video. At the end she comes back in and speaks about the Shane stuff. She was disgusted by it. But after this video she won’t revisit the subject. She’s already said she’s done.
Not to play devil's advocate, but it wouldn't do any good if he went to the police. They would want to speak to the actual victim and J* either would or wouldn't give up the name and then it would be up to the police to try and track the victim down and at that point they most likely would consider it a waste of their time and not follow up on it.
i couldn’t get through shane’s “apology” video. i clicked off as soon as he said “i hate that person who made those videos” when he was the person who made them.
..... Is it bad that i would end up punching him ... And i mean because of my autism .... Cant stand people like him ive even had to cut off family cause of it
Agree! Shane crap is everywhere! But Jafar Starfish is quiet, not much is about him, it feels like Jefrey could be quite happy everyone is after Shane. Maybe I’m wrong, but... if Jorge Star is slipping trough... disappointment, huge disappointment
If feel like sensible people are already canceling Jeffree but his fanbase isn't sensible or they are children so they won't cancel him for anything in the world
@@shadybeashooketh1911 He took absolutely no accountability for the pedophilic comments tho. He literally said ppl took the clips out of context when there is no context needed to deem those clips as disgusting.
@@shadybeashooketh1911 It was bad tho, and it didn't cover everything that has been coming out. Yes he attempted to take accountability but he still tried to use excuses as a scapegoat: "i had a bad childhood", "i was in the closet", "i have a mental illness" those arent relevant in an apology especially one for as serious issues as this one.
And to blackmail people too !like ...those guys aren't normal. GO TO THE POLICE AND NOT ON UA-cam IF YOU WANT TO REPORT SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS ON SEXUAL ASSAULT!! What's wrong with Jeffre, Blair White and Tati?! UA-cam is not a martial court !🤦🏾♀️
Exactly What I don’t understand is why would a “victim” of James Charles go to JEFFREE STAR of all people? It seems to convenient for jeffree to have a video of an alleged victim of james Charles. Jeffree has a history of being with sexual predators and even sexual assault allegations himself. Dosent add up to me at all
Kymera i personally think it was one of the D**** Twins. Just based on the timeline of their falling out and the collab with Jeffree. If this tape is real I feel like Jeffree was digging for dirt on James because of their feud and one of the twins confided in him and didn’t know he was taping. That’s the only thing that makes sense to me.
Kymera like it’s true. If there’s a voice note and there’s a victim then please show us receipts, show us the truth but I truly don’t believe any of them. I love James Charles but if he did that, then it’s wrong. But if you’re not going to show the truth then please, just shut up and let this end.
The one who has the recording is jeffree star, it was played to BW during a facetime. It's not normal to secretly record spontaneous phonecalls, I can only assume he used his "shane turn off the video I need to tell you something extremely personal" tone of voice to share this information with others and act like he's unloading a personal burden.
@@charismareadsalot but what if that person doesnt want to talk about it? Its not right to just put that out there or tell that story when its not yours to say
shane was in his twenties when he made those racist videos and never had to face any major consequences. james was 19 when he was ACCUSED of being a predator with no evidence and his career nearly ended. um- WHAT??
A 19 year old has the same choices as a 20 year old. Please...James Charles touched someone. Proof...Look at how uncomfortable the Dolen Twins are around him.
Dumpster Fire you can be uncomfortable around someone for multiple reasons. Literally freeze up when ever I’m around some people at school because I don’t like who they are
@@ahonestwoman I'm sorry, that's not proof. The reason they probably felt like that is because maybe they didn't like him personally, or maybe they did it because they were scared he might. Straight men actually have issues being around gay men because they're scared they'll be violated, like how straight men violate women all the time. Doesn't mean he actually did anything, though.
I just find it crazy how millions of people unfollowed James last year and there wasn't even a proof for the accusations but when it comes to Shane or Jeffree people don't seem to care even when there are so many receipts going viral.
i dont want it to sound like im defending james charles but i had a thought: maybe, just maybe jeffree manipulated a "victim" into making a voicenote, either making them intetpreting a situation differently or straight up manipulating them into making up a fake story and recording it. then maybe that person realised they didnt want to be a part of it anymore. so jeffree isnt using the voicenote publicly / going to the police because he knows it would be debunked and is just showing it to people behind the scenes because he is... not a good person. idk its probably a reach but this is also jeffree star.... like i wouldnt be surprised if he went that far to take down a competitor yknow..
Blaire White didn’t really expose anything, she said barely anything in her video Just repeated herself for 14 minutes and didn’t show any screenshots or anything. She just stated she believes the voice memo and that she’s scared
What is she supposed to do? She can’t go to the police on the victim’s behalf, she can’t out the victim without permission, she can’t stay silent, literally... what was she supposed to do? Not make the video and feel complicit to what Jeffrey and James is doing? No. Provide evidence she doesn’t have? No. Give names of VICTIMS? No. She did the best with what she was given.
@@aleksandra9239 she also made a name for herself being a racist, regurgitating transphobic talking points, homophobia etc and being the "poster trans" for the alt right so she's not really got space to talk about anyyyything related to this
@@cokeacola9977 lol no she could just talk about situation like she did but without throwing strong words at James without any valid points, she didnt even Ask James to speak his mind about it as she should if she wants to throw a blame and talk about credibility of something that could be easly fabricated by jefree
Jeffree Star said “Chris if I had evidence on davhie he’d be in prison” but has actual evidence against rapists and he just sits on it for blackmail? OK 🤪
All of them are predators . Jeffree, Davhie and James. That’s why none of them can really expose each other because all of them have dirt on each other
@@cinder2085 EXACTLY ! That's why I've been saying the reason why this scandal is confusing is because each party has leverage over each other that refrains them from telling the truth. If one person says the truth, the other parties will reveal something dark about the truth teller, and they all go down together.
He’s accountable for nothing. That would’ve implied him admitting he was racist, misogynistic and made predatory (pedo) jokes (GROSS!). That would’ve implied him saying he had realized he had not changed as much as he though he did, especially because he still keeps horrendous friendships that only reinforce these behaviors :/ PS sorry if my English was kinda wonky. It’s not my first language.
The point of that video wasn’t to take focus away from Jeffree and Shane it was to put pressure on Jeffree and Shane. Because they allegedly have proof of people they know being predators and are enabling that and treating it like gossip. The issue it theres a lot of shady stuff going on behind the scenes and they’re all covering for each other.
He wanted the positive feedback Jenna got. But she was genuine and her blackface was too much tan, which she looked like all day since she worked at a TAN SALON. Im glad she holds herself accountable, and thats different to his excuses.
Her blackface was her intentionally darkening her skin to look like a black woman. Remove the quotations. I'm tired of jennas dumbass fans trying to downplay her racism when shes trying to take accountability for it
@@fuckersonofbitches she didn't tho...she dressed up as nicki and that was problematic in itself, but her skin wasn't darkened from what it was at the time.
Ehm! I think they are holding him accountable. However I'm sure they secretly wish that he still remains relevant cause he always gets them juicy content
At first I want to say that I am not a fan of James Charles BUT "there is a voice memo and it seems creditable " isn't enough to accuse someone of a crime they could go in jail for. Second by saying that yes this memo exists and that it's a youtuber Blaire also went against the victims wishes. Now all the people are discussing who this victim might be and this person who wanted to stay silent will now feel pressured to come out. Blaire did what J* wanted her to. He wanted her to be the one who confirms that the memos are legit. He was running around showing them in hope that someone will validate his claims so that he won't have to be the one breaking the silence
And this way he can make people view James as an abuser even though he might not be. That's got to suck so bad. Imagine being a kid and if you're innocent, everyone thinking you're an abuser.
@@mridul7639 that's why I am so sceptical...a coworker of mine lost his job and almost got divorced because of a friggin voice memo. Turned out that he was out of town at the time the victim claimed to have been abused
what do you think blaire should have done in this situation? I'm not trying to be rude, I'm genuinely curious because it was a very tough spot in my opinion. I agree that it's not enough to say James 100% committed a crime, but if she heard this and then didn't say anything and there were more victims, that'd be pretty bad on her for not speaking up. im just not sure what the right course of action was.
@@punchy3245 Her best action would be to ignore the voicenote. The potential victim doesn't want to speak up and confirming that a voice note exists only brings attention to the potential victim, and encourages harassment to JC. Warning people about JC is entirely the victim's responsibility (not Blaire's or JS) and according to Jeffree, they don't want to take that responsibility on.
sunstream4 if there is someone going around sexually assaulting people in the youtube community, blair most likely feels responsible to protect others as she is a rape victim herself. saying nothing could do way more harm than good and if the victim didn’t want anyone to know, they shouldn’t have told JS.
Hey Angelika, please talk about the horrible situation in Poland and the dehumanizing of LGBTQ+ people. At least mention it in a next video cause the final part of the election is coming and it looks really bad for now.
@@AlixAgony I really hope she will say something soon. They seem to be scared of international backlash only. I'm literally scared of being dressed the way I want when I leave the house and my anxiety is of the roof. I think I'll just have to leave Poland to feel safe. And the church in Poland is such a gross propaganda machine that enables child abuse and spreads hate.
@@sarshanewton2647 well I did, and bunch of people liked that and I also messaged her but no response. And it was like 2 weeks ago. I don't want to be too pushy and annoying.
I'm black but I live in Czech Republic. Not once was I disrespected because of my race during all the 6 years I live here, but I go on a trip to Poland for a day and people literally spit at me... It's so mindblowing how different neighbouring countries can be sometimes. There's also a thing going on here with people wanting gay marriages too, everyone here is cool with it. Hope it's gonna get better for you there 💜. Please be safe.
It probably is I mean Jeffrey say he had proof last year and decided to not change it for some reason, hmmmm wonder why. And now that the drama is back and now heat is slowly coming back to him so now hes trying to make sure all that heat dies down by the voice memo, which is most likely a paid actor by Jeffrey
Tati took the blunder for the Dramageddon II and now Shane for Dramageddon III. Jeremiah Starfish is every Dramageddon, the only constant, but he just continues to sit on his throne of privilege and wealth????
it's so crazy how shane and j* attacked james for allegedly being a predator, but who is the real predator? with shane there is countless footage that he willingly filmed and uploaded of him being predatory, and yet James according to them was horrible.
Plus Tati is the one who came out worse from all of this when she never called JC a predator, just said that he does stuff to make others uncomfortable and that JC needs to grow
So y'all are seriously going to look over what james did too just because you hate Jeffree? Look over sexual assault? This is nuts to me. Being a predator metaphorically is bad but being an actual predator isn't? Im confused.
Annie Petrea the thing is that we don’t even know if it’s real, like there is no evidence at all, and the voice memo could definitely be fake.. wouldn’t surprise me, it’s Jeffree that we are talking about
About the alleged voice memos on James Charles: How reputable is really Jeffree Star for the whole internet to just believe that this thing exists and if it does that it’s even real. False allegations of sexual abuse is a serious thing, it takes away the validation of the real victims. We fought too hard for sexual abuse victims to have their justice and we don’t need people throwing false allegations like it’s their revenge play in their schemes to ruin the chances of people getting justice for what was done to them.
What I don’t understand is why would a “victim” of James Charles go to JEFFREE STAR of all people? It seems to convenient for jeffree to have a video of an alleged victim of james Charles. Jeffree has a history of being with sexual predators and even sexual assault allegations himself. Dosent add up to me at all
Kymera exactly!!! If this proof really exists Jeffree shouldn’t be showing it to random people either, if he’s so morally correct like he says and doesn’t wanna expose the victim then don’t show it to ANYONE.
I don’t like how Shane says that these racist comments were part of his “edgy humour”, he has said racist things outside of skits, that he can’t brush off as a joke. Like in one video, Shane and his gf at the time, were filming a baking video and on the back of the box of one the ingredients, there was a picture of a black girl and he insulted her natural hair and said some racist things. Proving that Shane is racist outside of “jokes” and playing characters.
Doug Dimmadome nope, he’s just pretending he doesn’t have an incredibly concerning history of pedophilic behavior! I guess he decided it was more socially expectable to be a ‘past’ racist? It’s all so weird and gross. I was a fan of his when I was way younger, and I remember him being on a podcast or something and talking about how he had made some jokes people were upset with but that was his way of expressing his trauma over being molested and it was just jokes. I think that’s complete and total bullshit personally, especially since it’s a fact that there is a link between sexual traumas and pedophilia and, while it’s not something I think should be generally assumed about molestation survivors, I think in Shane’s case it’s pretty clear that (if his molestation isn’t a fabrication for the Internet) his trauma from being abused is manifesting itself in pedophilic thoughts (at least). I really doubt he’ll ever address it 🤷♀️
I think it’s absolutely horrid that Shane gets to say “I had a traumatized childhood” when he ACTIVELY traumatized children throughout his career. Where is the justice for them?
I’m really convinced that Jeffree Star could shoot someone point blank and still remain successful. The vast majority of his viewers STILL continue to turn a blind eye when anything defamatory comes out about him. Scary shit
I think we're all just waiting for someone like Tati or James or Jeffree to come out with a video and really confirm Dramageddon pt 2 because rn this all feels like a giant whisper campaign ran by Jeffree
it's funny to me how everyone of Jeffree's 'friends' eventually get into a scandal and Jeffree is so quick to drop them but he himself always stays untouched.
girl JAFAR omg eye-- tbh i really don't know about the voice mail being fake, Blaire mentioned that it was from a youtuber but she can't say who because it's not her place to talk about it
With everything coming out about Shane it makes me feel weird when you think about how he did collabs wit CHILDREN including Baby Ariel when she was 15 and he was in his late 20s and when he had young kids pretend to be his child. It just makes me uncomfortable now.
Why is all of the focus on Shane? We need to drag Jeffree aswell, I feel like he is slipping through the cracks Edited to say this: I wrote this comment before watching the video, love the fact that Angelika said the same thing
I have a theory that maybe each party in this scandal might have some sort of leverage over each other that's refraining them from revealing the truth. The victim might also be so disgusted and humiliated that they're willing to accept anything just for the story to remain a secret. There's just too many gaps in this scandal. Remember how Jeffree and Tati were so confident about the receipts (Jeffree even sent a confident text to james where he said that Grayson (the alleged victim) and nate were ready to expose him on camera) but then they all backed out. Jeffree explained that they all came to an agreement to just halt the whole scandal because it was getting too toxic and then said the allegation was a lie. What if when Jeffree was about to release his receipts, he was threatened by James,his team or his lawyers that if he did release information, they would in turn release information about his (Jeffree's) past that could ruin him as retaliation. Hence revealing the receipts would lead to mutual destruction so they all stopped. But now that a lot of things from Jeffrees past are leaking anyways, Jeffree has nothing to loose and fear, he therefore indirectly brought back the voice memo story (that might have been true all along) as the information he was being leveraged with has been exposed already. Also if the allegation was true, it's normal for him to try to prove that he didn't lie given that the victim is to afraid to come forward. Of course all of this is speculation, don't take it seriously. However, I've watched another youtuber (who's video has now been deleted by youtube) that despises Jeffree Star but admits that she was aware of the memo and knows many people who have heard it. There was speculation that she was one of the people who heard it, but she cleared her name on the video. Also if you listen to Keemstars' podcast, there's a lot that suggests that this memo is real. Maybe the victim lied but the memo was real. The victim right now is the person with the power to end this whole scandal, but he will not come forward and that's absolutely understandable.
Another thing that suggest the possibility of the allegations being true is this: Grayson Dolan ( the alleged victims and a guy that james has had a crush on for a while as he had been posting lewd comments under his IG posts for years) still followed, interacted and collabed with the person that almost ruined Jame's life with extreme allegations (and the person who was revealed to be in the wrong during the scandal ) yet cut all ties with James even after everything behind the scandal was revealed. Why would you even interact with someone that made such horrible and life damaging accusations against your ex friend and almost drove him to suicide. Even from a business standpoint, that's a bad association. There was even a baskeball game that the twins had confirmed they were going to, but as soon as it was revealed that James was going to sing at the event, the twins bailed. I'm sure not everything about this scandal has been brought to light as there are so many gaps. Just like the DeFranco show guy said, the scandal ended in a very peculiar manner with a lot od unanswered questions. Also the twins had a fallout with james for an unknown reason about a month before the scandal. Anyways we can't label James a predator yet nor confirm that Jeffree lied about the molestation story. I just hope both James and Jeffree are going to address this, as I know that the victim (if there is one) will never come forward. However if neither James or Jeffree says anything, in my view they're both guilty of something we don't know that is key to this scandal.
Starfish is literally a monster. IF this voice memo exists. hes going around using SOMEONE ELSES sexual assault story as tea to cast a shadow of doubt over james. and if it doesnt exist, hes actively going out of his way to falsely accuse james of sexual assault. Jeffree is not a good person no matter what side you look at.
Yes! idk why everyone is just saying it doesn’t exist and that’s why he’s a bad person. imagine being a victim of something so traumatic and having so many people know when they’re simply not ready to come forward yet. if it’s not real it’s an extreme form of slander just to eliminate his competitor.
part of me wonders if tati included the part about james being inappropriate with men in her original video because Jeffree showed her the voice memo and convinced her it was a big issue.
James is a predator. However we shouldn’t excuse Jeffree for holding back important information. He is a monster for using a victims story to elevate his status
I think Jeffree and Shane orchestrated this. Manipulated Tati (who would take most of the fall out). And James Charles potentially for them also take a big hit too.
There are so many commentary channels that report on the ‘drama’ whilst accumulating their own by being bias. Yours is such an important channel. Keep it up.
Gabbie Hanna recently tweeted: I'm saying this again publicly out of fear-if anything happens to me/my loved ones, it's not an accident. Someone tweeted: she has a stalker that's been sending her death threats I think this is about that. GABBIE RESPONDED: It's not the angry fans I'm afraid of. I.....WHAT IS GOING ON. We all know she has shiz on Jeffree FROM SHANE according to Peter Monn like why aren't people talking about THAT? "I have dirt on everyone and they know to keep their mouths shut." like who does Jeffree think he is Al Capone? I wonder if Blaire White just burst the door wide open here....I think Gabbie might actually say something too....And a lot of other big youtubers as well-the OG tubers HAVE to say something....I know Philip DeFranco PROBABLY will talk about this and after that I think it's just gonna SPIRAL.
@@khadijasalem9612 true but I wouldn't think she'd tweet that for no reason-could be coincidence but....with everything that's going on people ARE going to expect the OG youtubers-phil, jacksfilms, pewdiepie to talk about this so I dunno. I think should phil talk about this in his news segment today or tomorrow it'll just spiral out of control-it happened last year too.
Someone LITERALLY said in reply it was about the stalker but gabbie said no it wasn't. Blaire White said in her video "If I'm found dead in a ditch somewhere, it's Jeffree." Tab or Kam said they're terrified Jeffree will send a hit out on them in their sleep like what the actual fck.
jared jones or the alleged victim stayed silent because their trusted friend that they confided in is spreading their shit like wildfire. would you really come out in open arms to someone who says “hey i heard the memo. i know i wasn’t supposed to but do you wanna confirm?” like??? and it also means that it could be false. they gave no answer and at this point with all this shit going around i don’t even know if this alleged person will.
tati didn't really talk about james being a danger to society or being predatory though..., so whatever comes out now she won't be more wrong or write than she was before, tati's video seemed to talk about more personal issues, while jeffree added the danger to society stuff. also, jeffree had sent james saying that grayson dolan (among some others that were debunked in james' video) would also come out with a video about james molesting him while he was sleeping. And Blaire said the alleged victim was a youtuber, so it all fits, meaning grayson is the alleged victim. But in these cases who knows, "molesting" might've been james touching grayson's hair while he was sleeping and he talked to jeffree about that and jeffree exaggerated it. Like, until we learn what the whole truth is, nothing has really changed that much from what we already knew.
yea maybe, but after the drama, the dolan twins reached out to James and asked if he was okay, and followed him back. I'm not being dismissive or anything but the alleged victim could be a friend of Jeffree.
that's absolutely what i think happened, and that's why he won't come out about it because he kind of feel embarassed that his experience got so exagerated and doesn't know how to handle it anymore, anyway i don't believe james raped or assaulted anyone, maybe he did something innapropriate but i don't think it's to that extent.
@@notapplicable125 we know for sure the alleged victim is a youtuber, most likely a decently well known one. What friend of Jeffre fits that description lol? The evidence points to grayson since he's the only other one that Jeffree mentioned in his message to James and he's also a youtuber.
@@assiaaiicy6876 oh you're right, I even forgot how the twins reached out to him. I'm almost sure grayson was the alleged victim and this would just mean it's a huge misunderstanding
@@notapplicable125 also, in addition to what I said,remember the Dolan twins are or used to be pretty close to jeffree so it would make sense if they talked about stuff
the fact that Shane is getting dragged through the mud and Jeffree is just sitting back and not saying anything just shows what type of 'friend' he is
Jeffree revived the allegations against James Charles with Blaire White's help. Jeffree doesn't speak out, he deflects and uses people and of course Blaire was down to help her racist friends.
@@unicorntulip4481 Blaire White isn't friends with Jeffree, they have spoken VERY rarely.
Shane had the nerve to call him “Family”
Pheonix TaunWangBam either way jeffree still used her of her past with sexual assault and then sensed the voice memo knowing it would trigger her and deter her away from the davhie vanity stuff, she litterally posted a story saying she’s not going to talk about it anymore which sounds so stupid
@@myapya8377 how do you know they don't talk to each other behind the scenes?
I bet Jeffree and Shane won’t be friends any more within the next couple of months. Jeffree will move on to someone else like he always does and leave Shane.
Yh you wonder why all these videos came out recently about Shane when all the heat was on jeffree especially when jeffree has said he has evidence on everyone
J needed to wait until that last restock before dropping him 😂👋🏻
Luke Ohalloran you would think since they are like “family” Jeffree would defend Shane but instead he’s been promoting his 50 shades of grey pallette 🤦♀️
"I have dirt on everyone and they know to keep their mouths shut."
Jeffree thinking he's Al Capone over here people HAVE GOT to speak out against him....Even BLAIRE WHITE said "if I'm found dead in a ditch somewhere it was Jeffree." like holy shit....Gabbie Hanna recently tweeted: I'm saying this again publicly out of fear-if anything happens to me/my loved ones, it's not an accident.
This is crazy.
i doubt it. jeffree and shane are too far up eachother's ass and think they're both soooo great that if they could they would've already.
SHANE: makes an entire series on Jeffree/still stands up for him.
*SHANE GETS DRAGGED*
JEFFREE: 🤐
Jeffrey : Ya'll hear sum ?
Jeffree when it's his "friend" getting dragged: 🙈🙉🙊
Jeffree: oh to see without my eyes ➖👄➖
Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if Jeffree was the one digging up Shane’s past. It’s good that people call Shane out for his old videos but the timing seems really suspicious. 🤔
LMFAOOO I bet his toxic ass is going to jump in and cancel Shane in order to save his career
now that shane is being _cancelled_ , i can just smell jefree’s video “why shane dawson is a danger to society”
Cancel culture is disgusting
omg stop.. you’re so right
I can already see it: "Shane dawson is SICK. The things he said behind the scenes...it would give you guys nightmares."
PLSSSSSSSS 💀💀💀
Samuel M ok but why did I hear that 😭
I don't think Shane realised that after giving James a slice of humble pie,he needed to eat the rest of it
He needed the whole pie James only needed a sliver
No more like a whole dam buffet
My dude consumed a factory full of empire state size 'humble' pies
I still hope there‘s some pie left for jeffrey star
Ugh I hate reading 'humble pie'. I always read it in a weird southern voice in my mind for some reason lmao
_ok, but why is jeffree not defending shane. aren't they "family"??_
Jeffree Star claims that he doesn’t want to out James’ victim, yet he plays that voice memo for ANYONE to hear. Make it make sense 🤔
Lol damn that's a good point
He wanted someone else to go out and say "there is this memo and it's legit" so that he doesn't have to be the one who breaks the silence after the victim asked....well blaire white took the bait
I almost sure that voice memo is fake , James Charles may be annoying and immature but I don't think he is that stupid to try to sexually assault a big youtuber.
Because he's a coward or a liar (or both). If he did have the voice note, he'd be protecting a s*x off*nder. If he doesn't, it's slander and it'll still be illegal.
@@VC-ux3wb Blaire actually talked about the Jeffree and Dahvie stuff. She took a video by Tehmimi which stated that Jeffree distanced himself from Dahvie but later went on tour with him anyway. Blaire only had shown the first part of this story and after a few of her fans pointed that out she straight up blocked them.
let me get this straight,when Shane was 20 and doing blackface, he was "young and naïve",but when James makes a mistake at 19,he's a predator?
Depends on the mistake
@@veledwin1 the mistake was definitely not smth predatory
Edwin V it wasn’t even a mistake, people made up lies saying he was trying to make a straight man gay when he was bisexual.
Lenny P For real. And how did she even know the waiter wasn’t gay or bi? Like last time I checked gay and bi people look the same as everyone else. Like you said it’s homophobia.
Kara and Lenny P YES! im a lesbian and if men hit on my i dont like it but i brush it off but its seen as flattering or just boys being boys but when a lesbian does it to a straight woman its predatory smh the double standards are gross
The only reason he was “inspired” by Jenna was because her apology was well received. If it wasn’t he wouldn’t have. Jenna seems to genuinely want to grow and is sorry. Shane did it to try and save his “good boy” image.
yeah his good boy rep is dead!! i mourn the old shane dawson the one who would do conspiracy theories not a 40 min bullshit vid
He was talking about how he hates that person who posted all those racist, blackface videos. He couldn’t even admit it was him!!!
Emelia Libbesmeier what got me was he was blaming this on his childhood... Boy please, I have living in poverty, I was sexually assaulted and bullied horribly. Never in my life acted this way and never wore blackface because I thought it was a joke or described a child as “sexy” . It’s not funny. It’s horrible. He doesn’t get to use his past as a fucking excuse. He doesn’t get to use mental illness as an excuse. At some point he needs to stop pointing fingers and own up to his shit and seek help. Period.
honestly mad that he dragged jenna's name into this at all
He's using his mental health and trauma as an excuse, but if he has enough money to get a golf cart, to drive around instead of walking, he can afford getting treatment like therapy, which is something not everyone has access to
Great point! I know so many people trying to get a therapist and they can’t and guess what... they don’t suddenly have the urge to do black face because they are going through a rough time
He is in therapy. Not excusing his behavior. He is canceled.
Yes! The first step in getting help is admitting you need it. But if he were to admit it, then whenever he will do a "joke" like that, he won't be able to play the mental health card.
Jeffree too, he's always bragging about how rich he is but somehow can't get/doesn't go to therapy so he can find a healthy coping mechanism
its so manipulative aswell am i supposed to ignore all the racist shit and be like oh im so sorry for your childhood!?? and ignore everything? sounds like bs..weird..
i hated how shane kept saying “i would never say or do that” when he literally did...
@Alien X he cant but hes talking like he wasnt the person that done all that shit hes not owning up to it and apologizing hes making excuses and being manipulative
it's a damn paradox and it's crazy to hear.
@Alien X these podcast and sexual comments about children are from the past 5 years. Not that long ago... it's fucking gross for a 30 year old man to talk about fucking his cat and calling 6 year olds sexy.
U forgot to add the “now” on the end of rhat
Alien X good for you. If you murdered people 10 years ago, you still going to jail. Even if you haven’t killed anyone recently.
Not making the mistake of jumping the gun and assuming that James is a “predator”. Who knows if that recording is real, Jeffree can literally pay anyone to say random shit. Unless the victim is ready and willing to come out with a statement I don’t think we should cancel James immediately like a lot of us did.
I honestly think James might of done it but I think it’s something like he grabbed someone’s ass without permission or something that would make sense why they said he needed “a slice of humble pie”. And now it’s gone too far if they released the voice note it might be anti climatic to everything going on.
Genuinely that voice note isn’t evidence it’s just a recording of allegations
Linda Wilson true but in those videos that have James and Grayson together Grayson always looks really uncomfortable around James. Wouldn’t be surprised if James actually sexually harassed someone.
I agree. A voice note can very easily be made or edited by anybody. And if it is real, with how dramatic these people are, I wouldn't be surprised if it was more like harassment than assault since I too have been to high school and college, and honestly have not known many men to take the initial "no" or "I'm not interested" without further attempts. Not saying that's OK, but it is pretty normal for the age James would have been, and the others have not given much in terms of context.
Don’t you think he would have already said something if indeed that was false evidence?
The sad part is that even after this, Jeffree Star’s cult will still be defending him, through crimes and everything else.
They continued to follow him when they knew of his crimes, saw how he treated people (including his fans). They’re not gonna stop now. They just don’t care
He’s done such bad stuff I think his stans are immune to it by now
I used to be his fan but seriously there is so much stuff people should've woken up like I did some time ago.
I tried to explain why they shouldn't support Jeffree, they were like "UHH where's the proof??" Like have you not seen JS's video of James!? What about the other stuff?? Have you been under a rock?
Jeffree demographic is just a bunch of edgy whit girls and boys looking for clout
bUt i LovE hiS coNteNt anD viDeoS. AnD hIs paLeTtes arE gReaT!
why does everyone have a racist past? like who are these people? why is everyone with a platform awful?
it's not that 'cancel culture' is trying to cancel everyone with a platform. everyone with a platform has just done awful stuff or is just awful.
Except our boy Kurtis Conner
Zhra fully agree
Amelia Ford periodddd
because that's how u get big
It’s gross that Shane basically said he apologised because Jenna made it trendy.
apologies aren’t a trend so idk how he’s making it sound like a trend
Yeah he was literally like it was a sign to make a video you shouldn’t need a sign to apologize for a racist past also if he would have never been called out he never would have apologized in the first place
Cailin Donaghy his oldest video on his Shane channel is from 2014 it was him apologizing for all of this shit he apologized 6 years ago
@@myjumpsuittakesmeshigh2022 yes but it wasnt a thorough and genuine apology. it was due to being scrutinized for it, just as he is today which forced him to make an apology as a way to not get cancelled. he even admits this, how all of his apologies were shit in the past, and his lack of action to correct and rectify that behavior
The BIG difference is that nobody was coming for Jenna. She owned up and reflected on her own shit. Shane only apologised AFTER his content became a problem. So when he says he was "inspired" by Jenna it's absolute BS. 🤙🏽
EDIT: Jenna also expressed her continued support for the black community as an ally during this time and removed herself. Which shows that she is actively also trying to make a difference. Shane however issued a half assed apology and isn't doing anything to change, still hanging out with racist ass Jefferson Staircase and isn't/hasn't been trying to uplift the communities he built his clout over for decades.
Apology: Rejected.
Exactly
Also pdophelia is added to the mix. He's just horrible don't know how he thought the outcome would be the same as Jenna's.
@@douae5857 Thank you for that addition! He's crossed lines that you cannot come back from and has made statements that are very unsettling to communities of colour and said unforgivable things about children. I've always said that karma catches up to you and it's about time that it did.
Well, not exactly. She took a break after receiving backlash, so while it was her own conscious decision, it was still caused by cancel culture
F E R N Exactly. Jenna spoke on her past unprovoked, not due to backlash. That shows she actually cares.
Actually the 6 year old girl from the pod cast is the daughter of a member of blink-182, so that's 3 celebrity families Shane has pissed off
Oh god I did not know that. Shane’s about to die lmao
Mary's Mother The Carters. He made fun of blue ivy by caller her a 'him' and saying she looks like a 48 year old man.
@@LauraLaura-mv4xh what did he say??
@@chloemotsebo2075 he said something along the lines of ,"Maybe if you had a job you wouldn't be walking around at night."
@@valeria-qs5ux what the actual fuck, so damn disgusting
Childhood trauma does not equate to ‘dark humor’ not that kind of dark humor. I may make light of my situation but would never talk about kids in that way, EVER!
Too Tired To Care i have childhood trauma and have extremely dark humour but even i have boundaries. shane can’t excuse it as dark humour when people who actually have dark humour still have boundaries
Exactly! I'm a victim myself, I might make jokes about *my* situation, about what happened to *me*, but I'd rather die than call a 6 year old sexy as a "joke." That is just disgusting.
Too Tired To Care kindda? Like I have a friend he makes this kinds of jokes to laugh at how people are disturbed or creeped out by the things he said . They say it is dark humor but it ain't
I knew someone that said to me once "id rape her" ... I said thats disgisting and i dont want to hear that again... People who have sufferd from a tragic childhood know theirs no excuse
Plus they have a massive audience. They basically raising a generation of kids to think that way. He wasn’t responsible with his platform. Now there’s probably a bunch of kids about thinking all of this stuff is okay.
It's kinda sad to see how silent Jeffree is right now considering how vocal Shane was in defending him
Every time Jeffree has a “best friend” he uses them for clout, they somehow get “cancelled” and Jeffree eventually turns on them.. I’m waiting for Jeffree to turn on Shane too
Shane Dawson was clearly just a pawn or some type of "sheild" for Jeffree😒😒😒
@@HeatherMareeDesignStudio child r*pe?!?!?! whatttt???? when?? where? where have i been
Feeling like Shane Dawson needs a slice of humble pie...
he needs the whole bakery
@@Helen-cs2zx haha fax
The size of the empire state building
He needs a slice of humble pie the slice of the whole universe.
Shane's new mukbang video
"If you're not a black person, JEWISH... a child or animal, this apology is not for you" YESSS omg this!!
shane: you don’t have to forgive me, i don’t expect you to.
also shane: deletes the comments that aren’t praise
TEA
I hate when they do that... no funny comments to read
It bothers me how they’d rather make UA-cam videos instead of reporting a CRIME to the police. The victim probably didn’t sign up for his voice memo to be passed around from one person to another.
Exactly like why do you go to the internet and not actual people of the law
Because going to the police won't make them 💰 or give them clout. It's a weird word we are living in
They can't report the crime for the victim, that's the victim's job and at least they didn't reveal the memo publically which would be worse. If they make the report and victim stays silent, they'll look dumb as fuck. I think the reason why the memo is being revealed to some people is to prove that Jeffree did not lie about the molestation story. My view is that the victim really did contact Jeffree about the story, but then decided to back out when things got to serious. So it made Jeffree seemed like he lied. But even if Jeffree was telling the truth, that doesn't dismiss all the manipulative and cynical things he's done. Right now the victims is the only person with the power to put all of this to rest but they don't want to come forward which is completely understandable.
right, cause you can trust the authorities 100%
@@jaredjones5870 my thoughts exactly
here's a thought.
jenna directly showed us what she was apologizing for and it felt genuine.
shane skirted around mentioning what he was actually apologizing for, so his apologies didn't feel legitimate.
conclusion: the more direct a person is about saying what they did wrong, the more sorry they really are.
And when people said something to her about the videos, she privated them and stopped profiting off them. Shane didn't until the heat really hit him, he had it on merch until as late as last year
judge to shane: how to you plead?
shane: listen...i had a bad childhood
judge: how do you plead?
shane: tragic backstory, your honor
judge to shane : how do you plead?
shane : i'm poor and fat and have anxiety 😢
Tiara Mesias “and fat” 😂😂😂😂
sounds a lot like tana mongoose
Shane: I'm a cancer 😔 we r just so sensitive
When do people finally cancel Jeffree and Shane?! I've waited for years!
He knows how to manipulate ppl to an extreme level
And Shane, I've been waiting since before I was born
i feel like people already know how problematic he is but already chose to stan him or not, it’s crazy how delusional they can be.
I think he and shane are both done now..: time for a new generation of big you tubers to emerge and be better!
@@catgoo17 same. I've never found him funny or entertaining.
Shane’s main channel got demonetised. UA-cam are actually doing something.
Was about time. Imagine spending two weeks every 5 months to make incredibly bad videos and making tens of thousands of dollars out of nowhere
but what will he do now? I mean I don't think he has any education but then again he already made millions.
Didn't they do this to Logan paul and then monetized him again
@@sohailape even if he made millions he lives a lavish life(big house, cars etc) he'll run out of money quick if he doesn't figure out something
Ryland probably makes enough or they have investments
Re: Jeffree and grandma - > if you come for him now you’re “ruining my time with my 103 y/o grandma”
Omg, yes!!! He is such a manipulative b*tch!
Did you see he actually lied about it?😂😂😂😂 he used a picture from JANUARY LMAOOOO hes such an embarassment 😂😂
It has actually been proven that he already posted that picture on Twitter with another caption. He's reusing it
how even old is she? wasn’t she 104 last year?
Hachi C. her age changes faster than my moods on god 😭
Shane, 10 years ago, in his 20's: is being racist, making p*do jokes.
me, 10 years ago, 16yo: "the Jonas brothers kinda sucks tbh"
shaked ohayon LMAOOOO Me 10 years ago: googling Hannah Montana fan fiction
me, 10 years ago, 5yo ahah
me, 10 years ago, 14yo: reading warrior cats fanfic
me, 10 years ago: 7, playing transformice online
Me, ten years ago, 3 and a half: screaming bc my ice cream melted
Shane: makes an excuse video
Everyone who isn't foolish: *depression and anxiety isn't an excuse to sexualise children, Shane*
abstract_tiger still no excuse 😶
abstract_tiger okay so he was touched as a child sure but their is no reason for him sexually assault animals. He’s been on camera sexual assaulting animals multiple fuckin times.
@@marandabolish He's old, he has the money for therapy. We understand that he was abused but nobody has any excuse to be sexualising young children, be racist towards oppressed groups and being a goddamn asshole them using "I was abused! I have shitty mental health!" as an excuse
@@marandabolish I was sexually assaulted when I was 12, I still understood that simulating a sex act with a poster of an 11 year old was wrong and that it wasn't "funny" to call children sexy, to give him and any abuser a "get out of jail free" card like that not only absolves them of accountability and consequences for their frankly disgusting behaviour, it also paints every survivor of that kind of abuse as a potential predator and makes it far harder for us to not only open up about our experiences but also to move forward in our lives because everyone will expect us to do something like this, that's what minimizing and excusing Shane's behaviour does
@@marandabolish Yes, everyone responds to trauma differently, but that still doesn't give him an excuse. Don't stan predatory behavior, it's not a good look.
Shane deleted everything untill now. He would of still been profiting if he hadn't been called out.
i think that’s the difference between him and jenna. jenna deleted all those videos of hers awhile ago
@@meganl9573 and jenna did barely anything compared to Shane!
Alaina Bender it was literally a bad spray tan I feel bad for Jenna
Slasherbxtch jenna deplatformed herself because she was taking accountability no one was trying to cancel jenna
Fia Locke you’ll be surprised a lot of people wanted to cancel her
He came for Asian and Mexican people as well, just to clarify
And for transgenders as well; like, the man really went out of his way to bring down every oppressed group in existence, ffs...
Thank you lyla ppl tend to forget that pofc aren’t the only ones who tend to get bashed. No race is safe from ppl like Shane. Especially the Asians when everyone found out about corona and found out it was from China 🙄
and also muslims lmao🤢🙄
And jews too
thank you!
Do y’all remember when onion boy said Shane was a pedo? He’s prob thru the roof rn.
The fact that he might be happy disgusts me and he needs to be cancelled immediately
birds of a feather...
man onion boy might have been warning us about him 😳
I’m not happy about it but onion boy is probably having the time of his life
@@jaidensmith5680 dw he's not, he's too busy with his own pedo allegations against him and kai
James Charles = cancelled / no receipts or evidence
Jeffree Star = not cancelled / receipts / proof / evidence
Can someone please explain how jeffree just slips through the cracks on every shitty thing he does or has done, like even shane has been cancelled.
Because he's a shitty person. People know that he's a shitty person and they've accepted it. We expect better from people who we hold to a higher standard.
shane hasn’t been canceled yet :(
@@ereristark425 yeah its really sad for people to accept this, no surprise he got Millions and millions of stan, even i'm embarrassed to be his stan last year, but my eyes finally open and sees how toxic he is, just hope more and more people will see the truth about him.
ANDROID MIKE I couldn’t agree more. People will always support him because they don’t want to let go of something they have supported and invested so much time and money into, kind of sounds like a manipulation tactic if you ask me.
Camille Lambert I know but he has been losing subs, it’s like 400k now which isn’t a lot for him but I think he is on his way out if you know what I mean.
he keeps deleting comments on the apology video, but like every other comment is, basically word for word, “anxiety and depression is not an excuse to sexualize children, shane”
i have to stan
Shane Dawson going down in flames: Jeffree is like my family.
Jeffree: .....
Jeffree really said: 🧑🏼🦯 🗿
••• that girl ••• wasn’t it: 🏇🏻🏔🚘🌅👨👧👧
13din 😂 that’s more like it
Jeffree: ✔️ Seen: 9:24pm
Low key wouldn't be surprised if J* orchestrated Shane's demise just to pull attention off himself.
I'm still waiting for what happened with Dahvie ya know
That’s what I kept thinking, he said “us, Shane and I” yet he isn’t going down like Shane. And if one falls, they’ll be more people worried about Shane and bringing him down, rather than worrying about J
Trust me,he is. The manipulation never stops with him.
@@star_is_deactivated4731 my theory is,he had to divert attention because if we had kept digging we would find something even worse than what we already know.
Nah everyone finally saw Shane for who he really is
Jeffree: what do you think of James?
Cow: 🐮
Jeffree: you wanna listen to this voicenote?
Hayes Sin 🐮: moo?
😂😂😂😂😂
why did i laugh so much lol
Like a cows opinion.. its moo
unrelated but girl your eye makeup is soooo gorgeous. it makes your eye colour POP.
Look up 'toxic' in the dictionary and you'll find Jeffree Star under the definition.
Look up "the devil"
Dead
Jeffree is beyond toxic. Jeffree is poisonous.
DaleIsALoser those... are synonymous??
The way Jeremiah Starfish used Shane as a shield in interviews and podcasts when there were accusations against him but now that Shane “needs help” JS is gone ...... he’s an evil genius, I’ll give him that.
I feel like this has turned into a messed up episode of pretty little liars.
yeah and jeffree star is Α 😭😭
I- IM SCREAMING
Plot twist, Gabbie Hanna is A 2.0😂😭
I really don’t like the excuse “It was a different time.” Like just because it was more socially acceptable DOESNT MAKE IT RIGHT. It wasn’t ok then and it isn’t now. Slavery was more socially acceptable back in the 1800s, but it wasn’t right then and it isn’t now. Why do people keep using this excuse? Just say you screwed up and own it! No more excuses!
Deborah Clark THIS 🙌🏻
Exactly! Even in the 2000’s blackface was not acceptable I don’t know why people think 2010 was the late 1800s/ early 1900s. Even back then other black UA-camrs spoke out against Shane and people came at their necks
yeah. and there's a difference between "i *thought* this was acceptable at the time" and "this was acceptable at the time."
It was 'acceptable' because white people literally didn't give a shit about it. Aka it was acceptable to them and fuck what everyone else thought. In Shane's podcast (before I stopped listening to him entirely), he interviewed Jaime Kennedy (a shitty so-called comedian) who did black/brown face as part of his show and they both agreed it was 'what comedy was at the time' and Shane was still obviously bitter about facing backlash against his blackface videos. He didn't sound remorseful. He sounded angry at being told what he did was not okay. And it should be no surprise that Shane thinks of this guy as his comedy idol.
It’s really upsetting do I think this is ever acceptable! HELL NO. I think everything going is so heartbreaking and to see people grow and never admit that they grew too and address issues like this head on is ridiculous. You never have to wait to admit you’re in the wrong. As soon as you grow into who you’re proud of in yourself you should stand up and take accountability for who you were and show and address everything you did wrong in the past. Explain why you don’t agree anymore no excuses; leave it all out on the table. Do I think people should hurt others and be so angry over something as a society we never addressed? I don’t know but I do know that no matter who you are if I (personally) ever did something like this even on a smaller scale I’d completely fess up. No excuses, no bouts of inspiration, just honesty. If black face had been taken out of theatre in school competitions then why put it out on UA-cam? If you have issues go to therapy. Black face from what I understand during those times he posted those videos was made illegal for the rules of uil one act play which I participated in. So using it was never an excuse for that time in society it was wrong way before then and it still is wrong today.
If the voice note is so “credible” then why hasn’t Jeffrey gone to the police?
Blaire speculates in her video that Jeffree is such a shithead that he would hang on to proof of a sexual assault allegation for later use as blackmail or “tea” against James.
Ashley Thompson I lost any respect for Blair when she made the kaityln Bennett video and now she stated on her insta story that Shane was somehow manipulated into this. Extremely disappointed as she was one of the few Republicans I respected.
Watch the entire UA-cam video. At the end she comes back in and speaks about the Shane stuff. She was disgusted by it. But after this video she won’t revisit the subject. She’s already said she’s done.
probably the same reason he's quiet about the dahvie situation. bc dahvies got something on him too
Not to play devil's advocate, but it wouldn't do any good if he went to the police. They would want to speak to the actual victim and J* either would or wouldn't give up the name and then it would be up to the police to try and track the victim down and at that point they most likely would consider it a waste of their time and not follow up on it.
i couldn’t get through shane’s “apology” video. i clicked off as soon as he said “i hate that person who made those videos” when he was the person who made them.
Samee!
it's like they constantly try to depersonalise themselves from themself
..... Is it bad that i would end up punching him ... And i mean because of my autism .... Cant stand people like him ive even had to cut off family cause of it
Jeffree should be cancelled. He has always gotten away with EVERYTHING.
I feel like ppl been trying forever to get rid of him. Hes a roach. He would survive a nuclear blast
Guys lets go hard on jeffree as well. We cant let him survive yet another scandal
Agree! Shane crap is everywhere! But Jafar Starfish is quiet, not much is about him, it feels like Jefrey could be quite happy everyone is after Shane. Maybe I’m wrong, but... if Jorge Star is slipping trough... disappointment, huge disappointment
Right people trying to take the heat off of him for Shane then they’ll come right back, we need to completely cut them off along with their empire 😌✨
If feel like sensible people are already canceling Jeffree but his fanbase isn't sensible or they are children so they won't cancel him for anything in the world
JS is using Shane as a shield
Jeffree isn’t talking at the moment because his summer collection is due to come out within the next 2-3 weeks. Wonder how that’s gonna go down
Probably gonna be sold out in an hour or smtn... I bet all this doesn’t affect his sales much.
enenenergp his fans are lost beyond contact
Dylan Davies I will not be buying it. And the people who do will just supporting his actions and his bank account. Nope not doing it.
In flames...
shane: “taking accountability”
also shane: making excuses
@@shadybeashooketh1911 He took absolutely no accountability for the pedophilic comments tho. He literally said ppl took the clips out of context when there is no context needed to deem those clips as disgusting.
@@shadybeashooketh1911 It was bad tho, and it didn't cover everything that has been coming out. Yes he attempted to take accountability but he still tried to use excuses as a scapegoat: "i had a bad childhood", "i was in the closet", "i have a mental illness" those arent relevant in an apology especially one for as serious issues as this one.
I’ve honestly had enough of Jeffree starting legit massive drama and then legit going ✌🏼😘
Agreed
Same
Period
Like really, it’s childish and a very manipulative behavior🙄
I can’t believe jeffree is slipping through when he’s the worst of them all
at this point, i’m done. i don’t care if they both apologize. pe*ophilia, rac*sm, and se*ual abuse are not things to joke about or use as “gossip”
And to blackmail people too !like ...those guys aren't normal. GO TO THE POLICE AND NOT ON UA-cam IF YOU WANT TO REPORT SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS ON SEXUAL ASSAULT!! What's wrong with Jeffre, Blair White and Tati?! UA-cam is not a martial court !🤦🏾♀️
I agree with you Why do you censor yourself those words ?
Everyone is taking about this alleged message but no one is playing the tape or sending it to the police. It just doesn’t add up
Exactly What I don’t understand is why would a “victim” of James Charles go to JEFFREE STAR of all people? It seems to convenient for jeffree to have a video of an alleged victim of james Charles. Jeffree has a history of being with sexual predators and even sexual assault allegations himself. Dosent add up to me at all
Kymera i personally think it was one of the D**** Twins. Just based on the timeline of their falling out and the collab with Jeffree. If this tape is real I feel like Jeffree was digging for dirt on James because of their feud and one of the twins confided in him and didn’t know he was taping. That’s the only thing that makes sense to me.
Kymera like it’s true. If there’s a voice note and there’s a victim then please show us receipts, show us the truth but I truly don’t believe any of them. I love James Charles but if he did that, then it’s wrong. But if you’re not going to show the truth then please, just shut up and let this end.
The one who has the recording is jeffree star, it was played to BW during a facetime. It's not normal to secretly record spontaneous phonecalls, I can only assume he used his "shane turn off the video I need to tell you something extremely personal" tone of voice to share this information with others and act like he's unloading a personal burden.
@@charismareadsalot but what if that person doesnt want to talk about it? Its not right to just put that out there or tell that story when its not yours to say
someone's. assault. story. is. not. tea. and. neither. are. false. allegations.
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also, if there is a victim I can’t imagine someone using your words against your attacker to black mail them for that persons own good but not yours..
The fact that they want to benefit from a crime says alot....
shane was in his twenties when he made those racist videos and never had to face any major consequences. james was 19 when he was ACCUSED of being a predator with no evidence and his career nearly ended. um- WHAT??
carrot yup and those claims against James were almost all lies
A 19 year old has the same choices as a 20 year old. Please...James Charles touched someone. Proof...Look at how uncomfortable the Dolen Twins are around him.
Dumpster Fire That’s not “proof” 🙄🙄🙄I hope you don’t study law
Dumpster Fire you can be uncomfortable around someone for multiple reasons. Literally freeze up when ever I’m around some people at school because I don’t like who they are
@@ahonestwoman I'm sorry, that's not proof. The reason they probably felt like that is because maybe they didn't like him personally, or maybe they did it because they were scared he might. Straight men actually have issues being around gay men because they're scared they'll be violated, like how straight men violate women all the time. Doesn't mean he actually did anything, though.
I just find it crazy how millions of people unfollowed James last year and there wasn't even a proof for the accusations but when it comes to Shane or Jeffree people don't seem to care even when there are so many receipts going viral.
I feel like the apology isn’t really for anyone but himself.
i dont want it to sound like im defending james charles but i had a thought:
maybe, just maybe jeffree manipulated a "victim" into making a voicenote, either making them intetpreting a situation differently or straight up manipulating them into making up a fake story and recording it. then maybe that person realised they didnt want to be a part of it anymore.
so jeffree isnt using the voicenote publicly / going to the police because he knows it would be debunked and is just showing it to people behind the scenes because he is... not a good person.
idk its probably a reach but this is also jeffree star.... like i wouldnt be surprised if he went that far to take down a competitor yknow..
rika that’s exactly what I thought
Come to think of it, that would actually make a lot of sense
the "victim" probably got paid by Jeffree star. JS is known for paying people to say shit and not say other things.
On the podcast jeffree wanted to go offline and let them hear the memo, yet later he says he doesn't know if it's real... So there's nothing
Blaire White didn’t really expose anything, she said barely anything in her video
Just repeated herself for 14 minutes and didn’t show any screenshots or anything. She just stated she believes the voice memo and that she’s scared
She literally threw the drama back to James without any valid points and stay silent on jefree and shane lol
What is she supposed to do? She can’t go to the police on the victim’s behalf, she can’t out the victim without permission, she can’t stay silent, literally... what was she supposed to do? Not make the video and feel complicit to what Jeffrey and James is doing? No. Provide evidence she doesn’t have? No. Give names of VICTIMS? No. She did the best with what she was given.
@@aleksandra9239 she also made a name for herself being a racist, regurgitating transphobic talking points, homophobia etc and being the "poster trans" for the alt right so she's not really got space to talk about anyyyything related to this
@@cokeacola9977 lol no she could just talk about situation like she did but without throwing strong words at James without any valid points, she didnt even Ask James to speak his mind about it as she should if she wants to throw a blame and talk about credibility of something that could be easly fabricated by jefree
Arthur N. you’re right.
Jeffree Star said “Chris if I had evidence on davhie he’d be in prison” but has actual evidence against rapists and he just sits on it for blackmail? OK 🤪
@iampandabear7 tweeted this
He has all the power,i just dont get it. Even if he broke 1 or 2 contracts he would come out unscathed. Makes no damn sense.
All of them are predators . Jeffree, Davhie and James. That’s why none of them can really expose each other because all of them have dirt on each other
@@cinder2085 EXACTLY ! That's why I've been saying the reason why this scandal is confusing is because each party has leverage over each other that refrains them from telling the truth. If one person says the truth, the other parties will reveal something dark about the truth teller, and they all go down together.
Cinder Biden2020 there’s evidence of Jeffree and Dahvie being predators. No evidence on James. So right now for JC it’s innocent until proven guilty
He’s accountable for nothing. That would’ve implied him admitting he was racist, misogynistic and made predatory (pedo) jokes (GROSS!). That would’ve implied him saying he had realized he had not changed as much as he though he did, especially because he still keeps horrendous friendships that only reinforce these behaviors :/
PS sorry if my English was kinda wonky. It’s not my first language.
your english is fine. i agree
Exactly I hate Shane and Jeffree
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.
Your English is better than the President's.
@@thefemmeobsession They messed up, maybe English isn't their fist language or it was an accident didn't have to be mean.
Hows james being alleged predator cancels out jefree and shane being proven predator? Like tf what is even blair trying to prove?
Something was off about the video
Ikr? It was confusing!
I feel like, either she’s being manipulated or trying to protect shane
The point of that video wasn’t to take focus away from Jeffree and Shane it was to put pressure on Jeffree and Shane. Because they allegedly have proof of people they know being predators and are enabling that and treating it like gossip. The issue it theres a lot of shady stuff going on behind the scenes and they’re all covering for each other.
Yeah something's fishy about her
He wanted the positive feedback Jenna got. But she was genuine and her blackface was too much tan, which she looked like all day since she worked at a TAN SALON. Im glad she holds herself accountable, and thats different to his excuses.
And she removed old content BEFORE being called out
Her blackface was her intentionally darkening her skin to look like a black woman. Remove the quotations. I'm tired of jennas dumbass fans trying to downplay her racism when shes trying to take accountability for it
fucker son of bitches THAT PART
fucker son of bitches So everyone that tans does it because they want to be black?
@@fuckersonofbitches she didn't tho...she dressed up as nicki and that was problematic in itself, but her skin wasn't darkened from what it was at the time.
Jeffree-Shane are legit paying the bills for drama channels
LOL that's why some drama channels won't hold Jeffree Star accountable because who are they going to talk about.
Ehm! I think they are holding him accountable. However I'm sure they secretly wish that he still remains relevant cause he always gets them juicy content
Looking at the threads on twitter, a LOT of Shane Dawson stans are straight up bigots. I kid you not.
At first I want to say that I am not a fan of James Charles BUT "there is a voice memo and it seems creditable " isn't enough to accuse someone of a crime they could go in jail for.
Second by saying that yes this memo exists and that it's a youtuber Blaire also went against the victims wishes. Now all the people are discussing who this victim might be and this person who wanted to stay silent will now feel pressured to come out.
Blaire did what J* wanted her to. He wanted her to be the one who confirms that the memos are legit. He was running around showing them in hope that someone will validate his claims so that he won't have to be the one breaking the silence
And this way he can make people view James as an abuser even though he might not be. That's got to suck so bad. Imagine being a kid and if you're innocent, everyone thinking you're an abuser.
@@mridul7639 that's why I am so sceptical...a coworker of mine lost his job and almost got divorced because of a friggin voice memo. Turned out that he was out of town at the time the victim claimed to have been abused
what do you think blaire should have done in this situation? I'm not trying to be rude, I'm genuinely curious because it was a very tough spot in my opinion. I agree that it's not enough to say James 100% committed a crime, but if she heard this and then didn't say anything and there were more victims, that'd be pretty bad on her for not speaking up. im just not sure what the right course of action was.
@@punchy3245 Her best action would be to ignore the voicenote. The potential victim doesn't want to speak up and confirming that a voice note exists only brings attention to the potential victim, and encourages harassment to JC.
Warning people about JC is entirely the victim's responsibility (not Blaire's or JS) and according to Jeffree, they don't want to take that responsibility on.
sunstream4 if there is someone going around sexually assaulting people in the youtube community, blair most likely feels responsible to protect others as she is a rape victim herself. saying nothing could do way more harm than good and if the victim didn’t want anyone to know, they shouldn’t have told JS.
Hey Angelika, please talk about the horrible situation in Poland and the dehumanizing of LGBTQ+ people. At least mention it in a next video cause the final part of the election is coming and it looks really bad for now.
Add in the church literally writing the laws for the politicians and Rydzyk’s disgusting money laundering and covering up of pedophilia in the church
@@AlixAgony I really hope she will say something soon. They seem to be scared of international backlash only. I'm literally scared of being dressed the way I want when I leave the house and my anxiety is of the roof. I think I'll just have to leave Poland to feel safe. And the church in Poland is such a gross propaganda machine that enables child abuse and spreads hate.
Tweet this to her just to be sure she sees 😭
@@sarshanewton2647 well I did, and bunch of people liked that and I also messaged her but no response. And it was like 2 weeks ago. I don't want to be too pushy and annoying.
I'm black but I live in Czech Republic. Not once was I disrespected because of my race during all the 6 years I live here, but I go on a trip to Poland for a day and people literally spit at me... It's so mindblowing how different neighbouring countries can be sometimes. There's also a thing going on here with people wanting gay marriages too, everyone here is cool with it.
Hope it's gonna get better for you there 💜. Please be safe.
Exactly if we're bringing down Shane, bring Jeffree right down too
a part of me feels like this voice note is fake af.
It probably is I mean Jeffrey say he had proof last year and decided to not change it for some reason, hmmmm wonder why. And now that the drama is back and now heat is slowly coming back to him so now hes trying to make sure all that heat dies down by the voice memo, which is most likely a paid actor by Jeffrey
chill nerd paid actor?? it’s a famous youtuber speaking on the voice note.
Lmao same
I saw other drama videos say it’s Ethan Dolan
@@janet6023 the victim wants to remain anonymous, plus there is no proof. lets not spread that
Tati took the blunder for the Dramageddon II and now Shane for Dramageddon III. Jeremiah Starfish is every Dramageddon, the only constant, but he just continues to sit on his throne of privilege and wealth????
Don't forget Manny and Laura took it for dramageddon I
Problem about misoginy, is that most of the canceling of women creators comes from other women.. And that is sad.
it's so crazy how shane and j* attacked james for allegedly being a predator, but who is the real predator? with shane there is countless footage that he willingly filmed and uploaded of him being predatory, and yet James according to them was horrible.
Plus Tati is the one who came out worse from all of this when she never called JC a predator, just said that he does stuff to make others uncomfortable and that JC needs to grow
So y'all are seriously going to look over what james did too just because you hate Jeffree? Look over sexual assault? This is nuts to me. Being a predator metaphorically is bad but being an actual predator isn't? Im confused.
@@taradactule6052 who did james sexually harass... like i'm just asking
@@xxaphani we will know once the victim chooses to come out
Annie Petrea the thing is that we don’t even know if it’s real, like there is no evidence at all, and the voice memo could definitely be fake.. wouldn’t surprise me, it’s Jeffree that we are talking about
About the alleged voice memos on James Charles: How reputable is really Jeffree Star for the whole internet to just believe that this thing exists and if it does that it’s even real. False allegations of sexual abuse is a serious thing, it takes away the validation of the real victims. We fought too hard for sexual abuse victims to have their justice and we don’t need people throwing false allegations like it’s their revenge play in their schemes to ruin the chances of people getting justice for what was done to them.
What I don’t understand is why would a “victim” of James Charles go to JEFFREE STAR of all people? It seems to convenient for jeffree to have a video of an alleged victim of james Charles. Jeffree has a history of being with sexual predators and even sexual assault allegations himself. Dosent add up to me at all
That’s what I thought too
This is the exact same as last year. I'm glad people aren't jumping on the "cancel james Charles" bandwagon.
@@jessiezachbff exactly my thoughts
Kymera exactly!!! If this proof really exists Jeffree shouldn’t be showing it to random people either, if he’s so morally correct like he says and doesn’t wanna expose the victim then don’t show it to ANYONE.
I don’t like how Shane says that these racist comments were part of his “edgy humour”, he has said racist things outside of skits, that he can’t brush off as a joke. Like in one video, Shane and his gf at the time, were filming a baking video and on the back of the box of one the ingredients, there was a picture of a black girl and he insulted her natural hair and said some racist things. Proving that Shane is racist outside of “jokes” and playing characters.
Queen of consistency ily
did shane ever apologise to willow smith or to that little girl he called sexy ??????? i didn’t see it on his apology video
Doug Dimmadome nope, he’s just pretending he doesn’t have an incredibly concerning history of pedophilic behavior! I guess he decided it was more socially expectable to be a ‘past’ racist? It’s all so weird and gross. I was a fan of his when I was way younger, and I remember him being on a podcast or something and talking about how he had made some jokes people were upset with but that
was his way of expressing his trauma over being molested and it was just jokes. I think that’s complete and total bullshit personally, especially since it’s a fact that there is a link between sexual traumas and pedophilia and, while it’s not something I think should be generally assumed about molestation survivors, I think in Shane’s case it’s pretty clear that (if his molestation isn’t a fabrication for the Internet) his trauma from being abused is manifesting itself in pedophilic thoughts (at least). I really doubt he’ll ever address it 🤷♀️
Well those videos resurfaced after he released the apology. That doesn't change the fact that he should apologize for everything and he didn't.
I think it’s absolutely horrid that Shane gets to say “I had a traumatized childhood” when he ACTIVELY traumatized children throughout his career. Where is the justice for them?
he was ‘inspired’ to apologise LMAO what is this
i love the fact i literally only get my drama from Angelika, she’s the only drama channel i enjoy lmao
She's my favourite too but I would recommend itzkeisha and Amanda they have great content too.
smokey glow, itzkeisha and luke alexander have a similar energy, they all hold people accountable and give different opinions. u could like them too!
Another good channel is as told by Kenya
I was about to name channels I love but y’all named them ❤️
I only watch itzkeisha and Angelika
I’m really convinced that Jeffree Star could shoot someone point blank and still remain successful. The vast majority of his viewers STILL continue to turn a blind eye when anything defamatory comes out about him. Scary shit
I think we're all just waiting for someone like Tati or James or Jeffree to come out with a video and really confirm Dramageddon pt 2 because rn this all feels like a giant whisper campaign ran by Jeffree
Lol giant whisper campaign. True dat.
smartest thing for James is to stay silent. the mob runs on "guilty until proven inoccent"
it's funny to me how everyone of Jeffree's 'friends' eventually get into a scandal and Jeffree is so quick to drop them but he himself always stays untouched.
He's like that Epstein guy. He's at the centre of the awful people. Which means they're the common denominator too.
inb4 Shane does a documentary of him struggling with the lawsuits ("oh my god Ryland i can't i'm so nervous" *laughs randomly*) and going to court
also, keep in mind jafar actually said out loud he’s not even sure if that voice note is credible because it’s not coming from the victim 😐
girl JAFAR omg eye--
tbh i really don't know about the voice mail being fake, Blaire mentioned that it was from a youtuber but she can't say who because it's not her place to talk about it
Been refreshing waiting for this ☕️
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With everything coming out about Shane it makes me feel weird when you think about how he did collabs wit CHILDREN including Baby Ariel when she was 15 and he was in his late 20s and when he had young kids pretend to be his child. It just makes me uncomfortable now.
He seems obsessed with Jojo Siwa at the min too...
omg waaaait didn’t he legit hire a kid for a day something?
“If you’re not an animal the apology is not for you” 😂
she said "if you're not a child" aswell lmaoooo
Yeah that was too funny.
omg 😂😂
When? 😂
Shane's apology was so forced and fake. If he needed "inspiration" to make an apology, clearly it's not genuine.
Why is all of the focus on Shane? We need to drag Jeffree aswell, I feel like he is slipping through the cracks
Edited to say this: I wrote this comment before watching the video, love the fact that Angelika said the same thing
I swear having a problematic past is a personality trait for every big youtuber...
I don’t think the voice memo is real. I think Jeffree made a believable one up and shares it with everyone to try to ruin his career.
Yeah cause something is adding up if this person was assaulted they wouldn’t go to jefree of all people that doesn’t make sense
I have a theory that maybe each party in this scandal might have some sort of leverage over each other that's refraining them from revealing the truth. The victim might also be so disgusted and humiliated that they're willing to accept anything just for the story to remain a secret. There's just too many gaps in this scandal. Remember how Jeffree and Tati were so confident about the receipts (Jeffree even sent a confident text to james where he said that Grayson (the alleged victim) and nate were ready to expose him on camera) but then they all backed out. Jeffree explained that they all came to an agreement to just halt the whole scandal because it was getting too toxic and then said the allegation was a lie. What if when Jeffree was about to release his receipts, he was threatened by James,his team or his lawyers that if he did release information, they would in turn release information about his (Jeffree's) past that could ruin him as retaliation. Hence revealing the receipts would lead to mutual destruction so they all stopped. But now that a lot of things from Jeffrees past are leaking anyways, Jeffree has nothing to loose and fear, he therefore indirectly brought back the voice memo story (that might have been true all along) as the information he was being leveraged with has been exposed already. Also if the allegation was true, it's normal for him to try to prove that he didn't lie given that the victim is to afraid to come forward. Of course all of this is speculation, don't take it seriously. However, I've watched another youtuber (who's video has now been deleted by youtube) that despises Jeffree Star but admits that she was aware of the memo and knows many people who have heard it. There was speculation that she was one of the people who heard it, but she cleared her name on the video. Also if you listen to Keemstars' podcast, there's a lot that suggests that this memo is real. Maybe the victim lied but the memo was real. The victim right now is the person with the power to end this whole scandal, but he will not come forward and that's absolutely understandable.
Another thing that suggest the possibility of the allegations being true is this: Grayson Dolan ( the alleged victims and a guy that james has had a crush on for a while as he had been posting lewd comments under his IG posts for years) still followed, interacted and collabed with the person that almost ruined Jame's life with extreme allegations (and the person who was revealed to be in the wrong during the scandal ) yet cut all ties with James even after everything behind the scandal was revealed. Why would you even interact with someone that made such horrible and life damaging accusations against your ex friend and almost drove him to suicide. Even from a business standpoint, that's a bad association. There was even a baskeball game that the twins had confirmed they were going to, but as soon as it was revealed that James was going to sing at the event, the twins bailed. I'm sure not everything about this scandal has been brought to light as there are so many gaps. Just like the DeFranco show guy said, the scandal ended in a very peculiar manner with a lot od unanswered questions. Also the twins had a fallout with james for an unknown reason about a month before the scandal. Anyways we can't label James a predator yet nor confirm that Jeffree lied about the molestation story. I just hope both James and Jeffree are going to address this, as I know that the victim (if there is one) will never come forward. However if neither James or Jeffree says anything, in my view they're both guilty of something we don't know that is key to this scandal.
Real or not a voice memo doesn’t prove anything. It’s just an allegation and no one should be called a predator until proven one by a court of law.
rosa betances you realize that almost never happens right
Starfish is literally a monster. IF this voice memo exists. hes going around using SOMEONE ELSES sexual assault story as tea to cast a shadow of doubt over james. and if it doesnt exist, hes actively going out of his way to falsely accuse james of sexual assault. Jeffree is not a good person no matter what side you look at.
Yes! idk why everyone is just saying it doesn’t exist and that’s why he’s a bad person. imagine being a victim of something so traumatic and having so many people know when they’re simply not ready to come forward yet. if it’s not real it’s an extreme form of slander just to eliminate his competitor.
james should've sued a long time ago
@@milli5968 exactly. This is defamation.
He is "disgusted" by his past but hasn't deleted Shanynay's channel
part of me wonders if tati included the part about james being inappropriate with men in her original video because Jeffree showed her the voice memo and convinced her it was a big issue.
James is a predator. However we shouldn’t excuse Jeffree for holding back important information. He is a monster for using a victims story to elevate his status
@@cinder2085 how can you say James is a predator without any proof? Lmao didnt you learn anything from last year? DO BETTER.
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I think Jeffree and Shane orchestrated this.
Manipulated Tati (who would take most of the fall out).
And James Charles potentially for them also take a big hit too.
There are so many commentary channels that report on the ‘drama’ whilst accumulating their own by being bias. Yours is such an important channel. Keep it up.
Gabbie Hanna recently tweeted: I'm saying this again publicly out of fear-if anything happens to me/my loved ones, it's not an accident.
Someone tweeted: she has a stalker that's been sending her death threats I think this is about that.
GABBIE RESPONDED: It's not the angry fans I'm afraid of.
I.....WHAT IS GOING ON. We all know she has shiz on Jeffree FROM SHANE according to Peter Monn like why aren't people talking about THAT? "I have dirt on everyone and they know to keep their mouths shut." like who does Jeffree think he is Al Capone? I wonder if Blaire White just burst the door wide open here....I think Gabbie might actually say something too....And a lot of other big youtubers as well-the OG tubers HAVE to say something....I know Philip DeFranco PROBABLY will talk about this and after that I think it's just gonna SPIRAL.
@@khadijasalem9612 true but I wouldn't think she'd tweet that for no reason-could be coincidence but....with everything that's going on people ARE going to expect the OG youtubers-phil, jacksfilms, pewdiepie to talk about this so I dunno. I think should phil talk about this in his news segment today or tomorrow it'll just spiral out of control-it happened last year too.
it was about people mailing her telling her to kill herself and threatening her.
I totally believe Peter Monn and I really believe has something on her
Someone LITERALLY said in reply it was about the stalker but gabbie said no it wasn't. Blaire White said in her video "If I'm found dead in a ditch somewhere, it's Jeffree." Tab or Kam said they're terrified Jeffree will send a hit out on them in their sleep like what the actual fck.
Sounds like she just wants attention since shes irrelevant
About the voice note thing: why would Shane apologize to James in his video if the allegations were true? I did the math - this ain't adding up.
In the end, this victim is real. Blair talked to this victim. We should all just stay neutral about this until the victim decides to come forward
Elî FIFO I thought she only listened to the alleged voice note?
@@shyraqqs4520 doesn't the fact that the victim didn't confirm or deny it suggests that it could be true.
jared jones or the alleged victim stayed silent because their trusted friend that they confided in is spreading their shit like wildfire. would you really come out in open arms to someone who says “hey i heard the memo. i know i wasn’t supposed to but do you wanna confirm?” like??? and it also means that it could be false. they gave no answer and at this point with all this shit going around i don’t even know if this alleged person will.
The tea is overflowing at this point holy
tati didn't really talk about james being a danger to society or being predatory though..., so whatever comes out now she won't be more wrong or write than she was before, tati's video seemed to talk about more personal issues, while jeffree added the danger to society stuff.
also, jeffree had sent james saying that grayson dolan (among some others that were debunked in james' video) would also come out with a video about james molesting him while he was sleeping. And Blaire said the alleged victim was a youtuber, so it all fits, meaning grayson is the alleged victim. But in these cases who knows, "molesting" might've been james touching grayson's hair while he was sleeping and he talked to jeffree about that and jeffree exaggerated it. Like, until we learn what the whole truth is, nothing has really changed that much from what we already knew.
yea maybe, but after the drama, the dolan twins reached out to James and asked if he was okay, and followed him back. I'm not being dismissive or anything but the alleged victim could be a friend of Jeffree.
that's absolutely what i think happened, and that's why he won't come out about it because he kind of feel embarassed that his experience got so exagerated and doesn't know how to handle it anymore, anyway i don't believe james raped or assaulted anyone, maybe he did something innapropriate but i don't think it's to that extent.
@@notapplicable125 we know for sure the alleged victim is a youtuber, most likely a decently well known one. What friend of Jeffre fits that description lol? The evidence points to grayson since he's the only other one that Jeffree mentioned in his message to James and he's also a youtuber.
@@assiaaiicy6876 oh you're right, I even forgot how the twins reached out to him. I'm almost sure grayson was the alleged victim and this would just mean it's a huge misunderstanding
@@notapplicable125 also, in addition to what I said,remember the Dolan twins are or used to be pretty close to jeffree so it would make sense if they talked about stuff