If you click the analyzer window on Pro-Q3, you can set the external spectrum to other Pro-Q3 instances. Helps when you want to compare spectrums of audio, or in your case, emulate the distortion from analog equipment!
How does the stem splitter compare with izotope's RX11? also curious how the chromaglow compares to ozone's exciter. still it sounds great. glad it was a free upgrade :)
Stem splitter is wild. Logic's doesn't null with the original stereo mix, Rx11's nulls with the original mix. But Logic's sounds 'better' on its own, while Rx has more artifacts. I think Logic is doing [vocals + probably vocals], [drums + probably drums] , [Bass + probably bass], [else + probably else], whereas Rx is doing [vocals], [drums], [bass], [else]. The "probablies" have some overlap. Chromaglow sounds like "subtle analog" more so than Exciter, but Exciter can get a LOT dirtier than Chromaglow, so use one or the other accordingly.
Insane how the included stem tool isn't being talked enough about. I've been using the splitter to basically create my virtual band. As a guitarist this is so much fun instead of fighting to find stems of songs. In 2 minutes the band is good go and everyone is ready to play. The only downside is that the guitar falls in "others" and so when I mute the guitars - I often find myself removing other great sounds... Great video - Love your style and especially "all music is distortion" 😊
The dither use is interesting. I think that the noise floor you´ve created is the noise shaping feature of the dither process, you can probably change it´s spread using the various noise shaping profiles available on the L2. But I guess that you let it in Off (no dither) on the L2 before the real time bounce . Check around the 11.21 secs on your video🙂
i’d love to insert dither the way you did with chroma glow - i’ve only ever done that during export. is there a stock logic plugin that can add dither the way you did? or a freebie? Loved this video - subbed!
I am a blind user. I would love to know if you can make a. Plug-in chain so I could do a bouncing place like you did. Since I can’t follow along, I have all the plug-ins that you have. Really appreciate it if you can help me out.
Stem splitter doesn't sound good to my ears .. The higher frequencies bleed over into all the tracks producing artifacts giving it that swishy low quality mp3 sound. The only track you don't get much of that is in the bass stuff. Everything else sounds pretty meh to me. I could see maybe using it for grabbing samples, but other than that, using it to actually 'master' a track. I don't know about that.
Perfect for me. All my tracks are in an underground 90s flavor and I export everything as mp3 already. Being able to take dialogue from tv shows and movies now and get the BR noise out has opened up a whole new universe of nostalgic possibilities for me 🎉❤
@@Bittamin That's why I said it's fine if you're looking for samples. That's what this function is. Just another sample grabber. It still sounds bad though.. doesn't sound like analog bad.. it sounds like digital bad. I don't have any nostalgia for digital artifacts from 'the late 90s' 😂 Maybe I'm just getting old.
@@nicebluejay Well, the video uploader talked about mastering a complete track with it. Yeah, the only thing I think this thing would be useful for would be for some snippet samples.. I wouldn't even want to use it for loops because I think it sounds bad. I'm stating the artifacts sound bad to me. I wouldn't want to listen to something like that floating through an entire track.
How do you get such a huge contextual (right click) menu when choosing the stem splitter? I’ve chosen big fonts in logic but can’t get the font to be that big. What’s the trick? :) thanks!
Aliasing looks nasty on that plugin. Fold back distortion is all over the signal basically giving you random non musical harmonic intervals. Did you try this at higher sample rates? Tubes produce strong even harmonics. The digital harmonics look like Jackson Pollock painted them.
😂 you’re not wrong. Definitely a good argument for getting your gain staging right before slapping this thing on. If you think this is bad… check out Ozone Exciter and Oxford Inflator doing the same test!
@@WillBorza It's wild that developers miss or neglect oversampling in their saturation plug-ins. This plugin in particular requires Apple Silicon to run, so the horsepower should be there to oversample it. You should try these demos again at 192K. I bet it gets closer to your hardware by pushing the Nyquist way back. That way the harmonics don't crash into the Nyquist like a wall and disintegrate randomly into your signal path.
I don’t think the 2 harmonic views look hugely similar. There a lot of extra harmonics and fewer gathered around the fundamental. How well you could hear these is be less certain but I would give it a go
@@WillBorza I purchased a PC with 32GB RAM, 8GB 3060 Ti RTX, 1 TB disk and the whole thing cost me less than $1500 this would have been in the $3K for an M chip Mac... i own by the way an iMac from 2017 intel and that at the time cost me $2300 with 32GB RAM and 1 TB of disk. stem splitting is available for FL Studio 21.2 for both Mac and PC and since i have an iPad that's M1 and i have logic pro 2 it also allows for Stem Splitter and Chromaglow.. so at this moment going to an M chip apple computer is not cost effective. i have everything you have and left over change as well.
I burnt 32 calories to stand up and walk to bring my headphones to hear 25k $ tube distortion vs stock plugin, and... it never happened 🥲 I'm considering legal action.
If you click the analyzer window on Pro-Q3, you can set the external spectrum to other Pro-Q3 instances. Helps when you want to compare spectrums of audio, or in your case, emulate the distortion from analog equipment!
I love that trick!
How does the stem splitter compare with izotope's RX11?
also curious how the chromaglow compares to ozone's exciter. still it sounds great. glad it was a free upgrade :)
Stem splitter is wild. Logic's doesn't null with the original stereo mix, Rx11's nulls with the original mix. But Logic's sounds 'better' on its own, while Rx has more artifacts.
I think Logic is doing [vocals + probably vocals], [drums + probably drums] , [Bass + probably bass], [else + probably else], whereas Rx is doing [vocals], [drums], [bass], [else].
The "probablies" have some overlap.
Chromaglow sounds like "subtle analog" more so than Exciter, but Exciter can get a LOT dirtier than Chromaglow, so use one or the other accordingly.
Yes, yes, and YES!!!! I LOVE the new real time BIP! It's by far my favorite upgrade.
So good right?!?
Insane how the included stem tool isn't being talked enough about. I've been using the splitter to basically create my virtual band. As a guitarist this is so much fun instead of fighting to find stems of songs. In 2 minutes the band is good go and everyone is ready to play. The only downside is that the guitar falls in "others" and so when I mute the guitars - I often find myself removing other great sounds... Great video - Love your style and especially "all music is distortion" 😊
Good stuff brotha
7:29 what if you would’ve changed the style from clean to colorful? Maybe it would’ve added that noise floor you were looking for internally? 😮
I tried that, it makes the harmonics more intense, but doesn’t add noisefloor
Mind blown! Good video
The dither use is interesting. I think that the noise floor you´ve created is the noise shaping feature of the dither process, you can probably change it´s spread using the various noise shaping profiles available on the L2. But I guess that you let it in Off (no dither) on the L2 before the real time bounce . Check around the 11.21 secs on your video🙂
Do you know if it is possible to change the grey on grey contrast in Logic Pro? i would like white on black so it is easier to read.
Came for Logic 11 news, subscribed for old school attitude era 'wrasslin memes.
I’m coming back to the videos….Citycreed is fantastic !
i’d love to insert dither the way you did with chroma glow - i’ve only ever done that during export. is there a stock logic plugin that can add dither the way you did? or a freebie? Loved this video - subbed!
Not quite free but Good Dither from Goodhertz is both very inexpensive and very good :-)
havent been in band or produced a new song in about 4 years. its time to get a new mac and clock in
Can Logic "punch in" audio (while playing along) and have it loop record? Every time I try... it stops recording on the next loop. Thanks
what are those white speaker
I can see the Kali audio gone and replaced by some Kii 3 haha
I am a blind user. I would love to know if you can make a. Plug-in chain so I could do a bouncing place like you did. Since I can’t follow along, I have all the plug-ins that you have. Really appreciate it if you can help me out.
Actually everybody is talking about it haha
😂
😂
Click bait 😅
I am also working with logic 11
Stem splitter doesn't sound good to my ears .. The higher frequencies bleed over into all the tracks producing artifacts giving it that swishy low quality mp3 sound. The only track you don't get much of that is in the bass stuff. Everything else sounds pretty meh to me. I could see maybe using it for grabbing samples, but other than that, using it to actually 'master' a track. I don't know about that.
i never use this kind of thing, but aside from grabbing sample or ripping a vocal for a remix, what are the other use cases for stem splitting?
This one doesn't null with the original mix, but the Rx11 stem split DOES null with the original mix. Would that be more useful for your needs?
Perfect for me. All my tracks are in an underground 90s flavor and I export everything as mp3 already. Being able to take dialogue from tv shows and movies now and get the BR noise out has opened up a whole new universe of nostalgic possibilities for me 🎉❤
@@Bittamin That's why I said it's fine if you're looking for samples. That's what this function is. Just another sample grabber. It still sounds bad though.. doesn't sound like analog bad.. it sounds like digital bad. I don't have any nostalgia for digital artifacts from 'the late 90s' 😂 Maybe I'm just getting old.
@@nicebluejay Well, the video uploader talked about mastering a complete track with it. Yeah, the only thing I think this thing would be useful for would be for some snippet samples.. I wouldn't even want to use it for loops because I think it sounds bad. I'm stating the artifacts sound bad to me. I wouldn't want to listen to something like that floating through an entire track.
How do you get such a huge contextual (right click) menu when choosing the stem splitter? I’ve chosen big fonts in logic but can’t get the font to be that big. What’s the trick? :) thanks!
honestly not sure, I'm working on a 4k monitor - maybe that's it?
Liked and sub'd. Cheers, $0.02 from Tasmania.
Thank you so much!
Aliasing looks nasty on that plugin. Fold back distortion is all over the signal basically giving you random non musical harmonic intervals. Did you try this at higher sample rates? Tubes produce strong even harmonics. The digital harmonics look like Jackson Pollock painted them.
😂 you’re not wrong. Definitely a good argument for getting your gain staging right before slapping this thing on. If you think this is bad… check out Ozone Exciter and Oxford Inflator doing the same test!
@@WillBorza It's wild that developers miss or neglect oversampling in their saturation plug-ins. This plugin in particular requires Apple Silicon to run, so the horsepower should be there to oversample it. You should try these demos again at 192K. I bet it gets closer to your hardware by pushing the Nyquist way back. That way the harmonics don't crash into the Nyquist like a wall and disintegrate randomly into your signal path.
why i dont have stem spliiter
a mastering engineer that needs a stem splitter 😂😂😂
pro tip:
Ask the client to send you the stems
I don’t think the 2 harmonic views look hugely similar. There a lot of extra harmonics and fewer gathered around the fundamental. How well you could hear these is be less certain but I would give it a go
Everyone is taking about these features, which feature is noone talking about?
Bro fell for the clickbait
@@beatsbyalvin yes but only once.
Features no one is talking about? Get real. These features are ALL EVERYONE’S talking about
😂
Exactly.
Pretty sure this is the feature everyone is talking about as its the biggest feature apple ketp advertising it. 😂
Stem Split and chromaglow only works with Apple M chips... doesn't work on older intel computers...
Useless apple, motherfucker apple, moving to FL STUDIO
The M upgrade is worth it for SO MANY reasons
@@WillBorza I purchased a PC with 32GB RAM, 8GB 3060 Ti RTX, 1 TB disk and the whole thing cost me less than $1500 this would have been in the $3K for an M chip Mac... i own by the way an iMac from 2017 intel and that at the time cost me $2300 with 32GB RAM and 1 TB of disk.
stem splitting is available for FL Studio 21.2 for both Mac and PC and since i have an iPad that's M1 and i have logic pro 2 it also allows for Stem Splitter and Chromaglow.. so at this moment going to an M chip apple computer is not cost effective. i have everything you have and left over change as well.
The Apple stem splitting is painfully bad! It sounds like badly encoded 96kbs mp3. 😵💫
Sounds like most all the others I've tried. They all do that to some degree.
@@morbidmanmusic yes! It is great technology, so i look forward to future advancements soon!
Nobody is going to master from split stems
Why not?
V interesting.
Click Bait
There are better stem splitters eg MOISES etc
Click bait
I burnt 32 calories to stand up and walk to bring my headphones to hear 25k $ tube distortion vs stock plugin, and... it never happened 🥲 I'm considering legal action.
😂 I’m gonna do a stock logic vs that analog gear shootout soon!
clickbate stem splitter all they talk about