John Deere 830 Industrial - Getting it Home
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- Опубліковано 25 січ 2024
- With winter on its way, i had to get the tractor out of the field and back home so that I could work on it and get running. I wish I could have gotten it running and drive it out, but it wasn't in the cards this time. But it is still fun to see it move for the first time in about 2 decades, even if it needed a little assistance from the A.
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Good to have it home where you can perform your magic. I said it before and I will say it again," Never underestimate the heart and ability of the John Deere A."
Well said! Absolutely!
I'll tell you that those are called split ring tires. That ring if not 100% perfectly positioned can and will fly off when airing it up after changing the tires or patching the inner tube. I worked in a full service gas station as a teenager and we routinely worked on big truck and tractor tires. One thing for sure is always double wrap that tire with two chains when airing it up for the first time.
Thanks for the info! Hopefully I don't need to mess with them for a while.
@@jonelsonster let's hope not, they are pretty scary as you can never be certain that ring is going to stay in place. Once it's aired up, they're fine. I had a 71 Ford F-250 with 16 inch split ring rims. When I put tires on it my boss used the lift in the service bay, and actually set the lift arms down on the rims when airing them up. He was a hard worker, I can still see him standing on top of the bigger tires, using what looked like a duck billed sledgehammer to break the tire loose from the rims. We didn't have an air powered tire machine, we had an all manual tire machine. Elbow grease and leverage was how we did it. No spin balancer, nope, we had a bubble balancer. So simple and worked so well too. I've looked online and they still make the bubble balancer for tires today, and they're inexpensive.
Great find, glad you got it home. If you ever work with those front wheels, just be sure that the rings and grooves are clean and properly seated when they are aired up. In a cage for safety. 😊
Thanks for the instruction! I'll follow your advice for sure if/when I ever change the tires.
Congratulations on getting it home! Even tho not running, I'm sure that's a big relief! Glad you're going to keep it yellow as you got a pretty rare piece of history there. As much as I love the green paint, that would ruin the history and value of a JD 2 cylinder Industrial. Looking forward to hearing it in the video next week. Can't wait to see you and Dad with both the 830s in a field together, what a pair! And a pair of Rs now too, it should be illegal to have that much fun! 🙂
We actually have a spare front axle and frame from an 820 that would bolt into this 830-I to make it look like an Ag tractor and my dad was surprised I wanted to not only keep it yellow but also keep the straight front axle and truck rims. But that's why I like this tractor so much. And that's why I bought it... Because, as you said, it's a piece of history. There are thousands of 830s... But only a handful of these industrials.
And I'm totally going to do a side to side comparison with both the 830s and the R's. They are surprisingly different from each other.
Those are better than the kind that hook in the center of the rim, but make sure if you service them to keep the rings and rims together.... don't mix and match. Also if you must service it, tube, tire, etc. air it up with a lock on chuck in a pipe cage.
Totally agree with this person. At the very least wrap the tire with two thick chains. If that ring slips off it will go flying and hurt someone.
That matches exactly what I've seen other well informed people say. Most incidents with these split ring rims are due to damaged or non matching ring/rim combos.
Those are not the Goodyear Widowmaker rims, they split in the middle of the rim and not on the edge. There are several designs of the rim style split rims like yours that are fine. Treat them with respect when airing up and working on them, but they aren't like a snake ready to bite you at any second after they're mounted. If they aren't too corroded or damaged they'll seat fine when you go to replace the tires. Co-op and farm tire stores usually will still handle them.
Thanks for the info! I agree, after reading and watching a few videos while these are split rims, the ones that are scariest are the RH5 degree split rims. These are more like the Budd BW 5 degree split ring.
Very well said, The true "widowmaker" is a split-rim wheel that is actually a two-piece wheel with two complete halves that connect in the middle. I have a lot of them and still use them, but they are tricky and also dangerous when inflating them. The Budd snap ring wheel like yours is much safer especially if you follow the advice you have already been given about proper care in a clean groove, matched parts and secured when inflating. I also agree that you should keep it Yellow. Great videos, thanks
Excellent video glad got home always best work on for sure and looking forward more videos too on hear run too!
Thanks 👍
The view of the mountains 🤘🤘
Pretty nice, huh
The front tires appear to be in surprisingly in good shape.
Yes, they aren't really worn at all.
Definitely a good decision to bring it home. Easier and quicker to work on! Wish I knew more about the different rim types but I haven't had to deal with them....yet
One thing for sure, if I ever have to change the front tires, I'll do whatever is needed to keep these rims. They are one one of the coolest features of the industrial tractors.
Good to see it at it's new home. Much easier to work on now.
Yes indeed!
Nice find. 👍🏽
Thanks 👍
Those are split lock ring rims. Besides, "widowmakers" are only so because people don't know how to properly use them. We had them on multiple logging trucks and they were fine and also easy to replace tires on obviously tube type only
Thanks for the info. I've been reading about them since I made this video and what you say seems to be what informed people say. As long as that outer ring is locked in place there is nothing to worry about. And the bead of the tie actually extends over the inner lip of the lock ring helping to hold everything in place.
You are so right, thanks for saying so. I so dislike people who spread misinformation as if they really knew the truth and do so with the use of fear rather than knowledge. Thanks
Get it going!! I want to see!!
That video should drop next week
even though it doesn't run for now, you might ought to cover the exhaust stack.
It's got a can over the exhaust. It's hard to see because it fits perfectly, but if you look closely you can see it.
@@jonelsonster perfect
Wow, can't wait to see the smoke coming out of the exhaust pipe.
That video will drop next Friday.
Absolutely bringing it home is definitely a smart decision. Great find .looking forward to new videos on the restoration
Thanks 👍
Good project to keep you busy. Once it’s up and running are you going to leave it yellow? Have fun!
Yes it will be yellow as long as I own it. Just like it was when it left the factory. 😎
Any time you can get a tractor home you're much better off, the biggest thing is the convenience factor of having it available on your time schedule and the second being the safety of it being on your property takes out a huge worry of vandalism. As far as the front wheels go I am not sure if those are the widow maker split rims or not, they can be worked on if handled correctly and with respect so I wouldn't be too concerned about them. 8.25-20 truck tires were pretty common in those days and made a great fit for the application of an industrial tractor not only for wear factor but chances are the construction company had trucks in the fleet that shared the same size tire.
Couldn't agree with you more. So much more convenient.
Look like lock rings to me, just need to know what you are doing to stay safe.
💯 agree
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Great to hear you're representing the antique tractor scene down south!
Widow Maker or not, those rims need to be inflated in a tire cage! It is during the inflating process, that the ring has been known to decapitate.
Yes, I believe your are correct!
Split rim or split ring doesn’t matter both are dangerous BE VERY CAREFUL
Yes, not as fool proof are your normal tubeless rims that are standard today. Care must be taken
Those split rims will kill you my neighbor was killed many years ago by one almost like that. Would be nice to find someone to remove them centers and put them in newer wheels. I love them old two lunger's we have an A,B and 40 dozer.
Good advise. Old iron is the greatest!
How come from 2:45 to 3:40 it is shows the flywheel on the right side?
I'm using the camera on the front of my phone, so it's a mirror image. The weird on my hat are also backwards.
I see that your Model A has the 42” dished rears. And also split pedestal. You should do a research on that tractor. I have a 48’ A with factory widefront. But records indicate it was built as a model AN shipped to Casselton, S.D.. you just never know….
@@tractorguy100 my A is supposed to be an AN with the single front tire. But last winter I put the roll-o-maric front end on it. I still have the single 16"wheel... I just wanted to switch things up. There are a few videos on my channel where I rebuilt the roll o matic and did the switch.
A description of the different wheels ua-cam.com/video/BuFaNv9y29c/v-deo.html found it, trying to understand it myself!
Yes, I found that same video. He did a really good job explaining and showing the differences between a few different styles. And here is a good video showing how they can be serviced: ua-cam.com/video/8UFvWt8OqTc/v-deo.htmlsi=ISXYosWcXg-izqRd
Those front tires are a split rim and will hurt you if not done right. Let the tire shop deal with them! They can kill you.
Good luck finding a tire shop that still services them. An old farm trailer my dad had blew a tire 30 years ago and no shops would touch the split rim
@@farmboy2272 I haven,t tried in quite a few years either but our local shop did them then.
I changed some YEARS ago and the tire shop did them but haven't been around any in ages and sure am glad. Those things scared me to just look at them.@@kendallwilliamson8193
I don't plan on needing with the rims unless they need new tires. These should last me for a while.
GOOD deal. Those things scare me. We had a 42 and a 48 LaFrance pumper with them. When it came time for new tires it went to the tire shop in town and it was a fight at the least. The rims were rusted to the old tires and they had to use a bead breaker to get them broke loose and it was flying up in the air most of the time. Air powered.THEN get the new tires on and inflated in a cage and back on while looking dead at those things in the eye. Glad it's over. I've changed 3 piece myself and didn't worry a whole lot but still paid CLOSE attention. You live longer that way! Blessings!@@jonelsonster
You did it before, this time will be nothing. Those or that one is a killer rim. Be careful when inflating. The 3 piece rims are a lot better. Those are just 2. Blessings!
Yes! Thank you!
YOU TOO! ALL yall! @@jonelsonster
Please get professional help when taking down those tires? They will kill you if you don’t know what you are doing. Those are “widow maker” tires and if not seated properly when airing up, will fly off and do damage even death. I personally have seen tires going through cement block walls!!! I lost a good friend to a split rim. 😢
Good advise.