Excellent example of how to communicate difficult subjects with self awareness, willingness to consider you might be wrong, and respect for the other person.
Cenk: Does Ben not believe in Chomsky's Manufactured Consent reality, which I see as your main argument? It sure sounds like it. I don't think Ben is addressing your point. His defensiveness towards the media's relative goodness is his bias showing thru!
Ben: "the media are fair and above rebuke, and you're irresponsible and the same as Trump if you criticize them. I'm a thoughtful centrist I mean progressive."
Normally I agree with Ben but he is wrong on this. The establishment does hate Bernie because he represents real change and a threat to the level of influence they have in the system.
Dude...Ben is showing some cognitive dissonance here. Even if I ignore all of the UA-cam news analysis shows that I watch and focus objectively on mainstream news sources coverage of all things Bernie Sanders -- news coverage of leftist politics is anecdotal and subjective almost all of the time. If it weren't for the 2 or 3 instances per year of fair or positive coverage it would literally be dishonest and biased against leftist politics 100% of the time.
I think Ben’s main concern is that he wants TYT to be seen as a legitimate and objective news source because he is affiliated with it, and he doesn’t like what he perceives as Cenk framing issues and making claims without solid evidence.
Like Ben, I look at the thousand glowing puff pieces about Pete Buttigieg, and think the media don't deserve to be called out in any way for promoting and protecting center-right ideology.
@@Shaun-Vargas He sure talks like they do! I'm so tired of the fact that they expect us, without any evidence at all, to trust them that are the only type of people that really know how it is. there excuse always is that, I've been doing this for years, ok that may be true but answer me this, if it is true what they say then why has the political process, for all these years of them doing this, it has gotten way worse. step aside ben and let us new thinkers have a go
everyone calm down i like Ben and i like Cenk. I like when they put Ben on the show because he gives a different point of view that is rooted in logic. Having people with different perspectives who want the same things helps me examine my own biases
Rooted in logic? What? Ben has the BIAS that the rich elitist media is righteous, bc he can't talk about his dinner party friends. That's his class. He is rooted in the establishment. The nerve to call Cenk an idiot over this. He stopped talking to Dore and throwing shade at him in an attempt to curb his anti russia-gate coverage. Now he is trying to stop Cenk from calling out the media which would be a horrible look for TYT but a win for investors and Ben's friends. It's gross. Ben provided no logic or reason other than his elitist friends are born royalty. Cenk gives as much evidence as he can on the spot, and Ben just calls him crazy and an idiot. Ben is an idiot. At least have a cover argument if your going to blindly support the establishment.
Wanting to go back in time politically, socially, technologically, etc is regressive. Which party is trying to Make Something Great Something-Something? I forget.
cenk's big epiphany is perfect, in the dark cabin he's wondering if ben is right ? is he crazy ? is he too angry ? hell no, he's just a rebel, i love cenk just the way he is prosaic, feckless, and hilarious
I like whenever Ben thinks he's said a clever thing. His body gets tense, he shifts excitedly in his seat, looks away, clasps his hands and drinks from his mug. It's pretty funny. It's like he's imagining a million hands patting him on he back
@@tonysmith6967 if that's your opinion im all for it, i don't really listen to him that often, but i do believe you need those type of people, i don't feel he's that far from progressive view points tho
@@sauce_moses5731 Ben is disingenuous. He takes a dig at Greenwald for not doing journalism but then accuses Cenk of not being nuanced about the media and being too emotional and bias. Ben has also been very flippant in what he says about people like Assange or even Jill Stein. Yet he always tells others to temper their criticism of mainstream media figures. He is an example of someone surrounded by people further left than him who then thinks his mainstream opinion is unique. It is not unique. I don't see why having a parrot for the mainstream who pretends to be sympathetic to progressives is useful. He seems like a contrarian just trying to trip up Cenk with his choice of words. What purpose does this serve the viewers?
Cenk expressing anger over the shenanigans, is cathartic. He is a champion for a point of view. Sometimes, I don't agree with his take, but often I'm grateful Cenk is passionately fighting for us.
With all due respect to Ben, what has his type of sensibility gotten us? We are fighting for our futures. We may not be violent about it but we are at war and there's more of us now than these complacent boomers so they need to get on board or step aside.
bingo! we can continue to debate the issues from an honest place, but why be fair to an institution that continues to be blantantly unfair to us and in representing our voices? i don't care if Cenk generalizes as the effects of the media's bias are still the same. let them do their jobs and represent the facts appropriately before giving them credit for the handful of times they do. the same watchdog principals the media should rely on in confronting power in government we should have in confronting our media! it's not personal, it's necessary.
@@theebonymaw Yup, I'd rather someone be so angry for us that they're willing to go yell at windmills rather than someone more worried about propriety.
A Democrat supporting the Democratic nominee. How unheard of! Bernie didn't have the votes. He wasn't going to be the nominee. Who the hell was she going to endorse, Jill Stein? Look, it's coming up on 2020. Don't you think it's time to move on?
@@mgeek1 1. support and endorse are not at all the same thing 2. If he wasn't going to be the nominee, why did the DNC cheat and ADMIT it? 3. Your whole argument implies "one democrat is the same as any other Democrat" which is hilariously wrong. 4. do ever get anything right?
don't forget Ben came from money and made his career in local TV news. He absorbed the values of cheap sensationalist journalism. He also wines and dines with the wealthy circles of California. He's wrong on every point here.
@@cmbsoldja The one who pays has always power, call 'em boss or contractor. Semantics apart, the beauty is the dissipation of that power and hierarchy and freely relate as equals.
@ you're watching a TYT video.... so it sounds like you're trolling. I agree with Cenk, we have corporate Democrats getting full coverage, real progressive platforms attacked. If you think I need help that's your right. But our country deserves everything other countries have. We're great at war, killing babies, destroying plush fertile land, but when it comes to making sure we have a healthy, educated nation, corporations rule - profit rules, and they pit us against each other as the 'other' are not worthy. We are worthy - don't fall in the 'separation' trap that keeps us sick and uneducated. Soon they'll make us pay for air! They will bleed us dry because some fall to the 'other' racist illusion. If aliens attacked us, will you then see we're all human?
Ben is like a slot machine that every once in a while Cenk sticks a coin in and Ben just erupts with a geyser of myopic denial ridden conventional wisdom. 🤮
I love that Ben Mankiewicz is on this network. I tend to agree with most of the panelists, but it's important to stay grounded, and he definitely provides that.
Ben is great! He should be on there more often. TYT is largely built around Cenk’s polemic and perspective, and it’s really nice to have a dissenting voice on the show from time to time. I can imagine a lot of viewers won’t like what he’s saying, but there you go. News isn’t just what you want to hear.
I vehemently disagree with Bens position on this but that is the great thing about tyt.. you can get more than one perspective.. more than a perspective you might agree with.. It is ok to have different perspectives and still have rational conversation on the same channel...
Not sure why the hate for Ben is going on here, this is just 2 dudes hashing out their different view points. Ben is a calmer. more level headed guy; Cenk is more emotional. They each have their own approach. This is how discourse should happen.
Trump's "full employment" does NOT mean that it's 1 person 1 job, just so you know. This economy of full employment means damn near half the country has more than one income which is what is the actual reality of the matter. Who likes having little to zilch social life b/c all they're time is spent working for the man.
I so agree with Cenk re: money in politics and Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren is the only one who talks about policy. But until we take money out of politics, nothing but nothing will ever get done. We have to take money out of politics.
@@markgorenshtein1946 I don't equate money with free speech. I see it as buying influence only. But I agree with you in establishing mandates to limit spending and to report all donations. I would also add that all donations should be made public.
Tough call, but overall a great shot over the heads of many partisans. Let's see somebody else be as honestly introspective as TYT and still pat themselves on the back.
Ben answers everything now like he is planning to run for some office, trying not to offend political agents, refusing to even agree with cenk that money influences votes.
@Jesse Lee Peterson Dave being a honest liberal, are you for real? Maybe you havent see his work for last couple of years. TYT is awful, was for a long time, but Dave is much, much worse.
See this video is true to the level of objectivity I subscribed to 3 years ago. Since 2016 tyt has gone from objective independent news media, to the Media Arm of the Bernie campaign
Maybe if the government would pay for the first two years of higher learning then more people could take advantage of it. People could learn a trade and those who want to go for higher paying jobs could pay the additional costs themselves.
It is a little bit unsettling when you figure out that you're taking a path Less Traveled. It can be lonely. But you have to ask yourself the question, could you be Rachel Maddow? You already know you had your opportunity and you know you're not that. The question is, is the life of Rachel Maddow worth living? Not for someone like you. Embrace what you are.
"You sound dumb, you sound crazy". This should be a private conversation, they shouldn't broadcast this undermining and disrespect of the leader of the network.
One of my favorite things about Cenk is his openness, for instance, his willingness to show different perspectives, to show him screw up, to show him being wrong, etc. And my least favorite thing about Ben is his establishment bias.
I'm fine with them all being equals. And that just proves my point. I can't picture Cenk ever telling one of his co-hosts they sound dumb or they sound crazy while on the air. Look, if they get together on their own time and let loose with the language, that's fine and I would expect it. I just think it's improper to do this on the air. You want to say someone is wrong and here's why, that's fine. You want to say "you sound like you're going overboard", that's fine. But calling another Young Turk dumb or crazy is too harsh, especially the leader of the network. It makes Cenk seem less credible and becomes fodder for their right wing haters/opponents to use as video clip memes when berating TYT, or Cenk personally. Don't get me wrong, I love Ben! He's probably my favorite Young Turk beside Cenk, just saying I don't think this is a smart thing to broadcast.
@@mozfan2436 couldn't agree more with your comment this calling dumb and crazy is a bit much, specially if you use it instead of an actual argument, just saying that's dumb and crazy without saying why doesn't mean anything, and it gives cannon fodder for the haters. I know some will say he did gave reasons except he didn't really back them up to any reasonable degree.
I really don't care that the dumb and crazy thing was directed at cenk tho, being head of the network gives you no special immunity, i don't like it when he does it to Jimmy or when Jimmy does it back equally
So Ben... Do you also think we're reading too much into headlines where black people are always described negatively? Or is that the media being honest?
Excellent example of how to communicate difficult subjects with self awareness, willingness to consider you might be wrong, and respect for the other person.
So not Cenk
@We are Doomed That's the best you got?
"You're wrong and you sound dumb." Yeah, that's just AWESOME respect. lol
I think Ben is so afraid to sound „crazy“ that he doesn’t see the truth.
Cenk: Does Ben not believe in Chomsky's Manufactured Consent reality, which I see as your main argument? It sure sounds like it. I don't think Ben is addressing your point. His defensiveness towards the media's relative goodness is his bias showing thru!
i said it before, i say it again, Ben is still, 'with her'
lmao he voted for Bernie you fool
@@DkwonX your mamma is a fool.
@@DkwonX You have no idea who he voted for.
I have never disagreed with Ben so much. He lost me when he said that the number of bias reporters may be under 51%.
Man, tyt is Not the place it was in 2010
The news didn't cover Bernie whereas they focused on Trump even if that meant covering an empty podium.
"Me thinks doth protest too much" Ben is a career establishment guy, status quo has worked out for him
First time I completely disagree with Ben. Please wake up.
This was your first time? Wow
@@avenuePad lol yeah!!
I'm in Cenk's court, but Ben has a view from which we can learn. He's not wrong on every point...
Thank, someone with some sense here lol
... and...what...points...do...you...think...he's...right...about?
Ben "if you don't like me you're antisemitic" Shapiro
Ben is delusional.
I'm a Capricorn ♑!
Ben: "the media are fair and above rebuke, and you're irresponsible and the same as Trump if you criticize them. I'm a thoughtful centrist I mean progressive."
i don't know what universe Ben is living in, but it aint this one
Normally I agree with Ben but he is wrong on this. The establishment does hate Bernie because he represents real change and a threat to the level of influence they have in the system.
Dude...Ben is showing some cognitive dissonance here. Even if I ignore all of the UA-cam news analysis shows that I watch and focus objectively on mainstream news sources coverage of all things Bernie Sanders -- news coverage of leftist politics is anecdotal and subjective almost all of the time. If it weren't for the 2 or 3 instances per year of fair or positive coverage it would literally be dishonest and biased against leftist politics 100% of the time.
I think Ben’s main concern is that he wants TYT to be seen as a legitimate and objective news source because he is affiliated with it, and he doesn’t like what he perceives as Cenk framing issues and making claims without solid evidence.
"But what about Russia Ben?!"
Does Ben not know poor or normal people?
No, he doesn't. He was born into wealth and Hollywood influence. He is completely out of touch and always has been.
He did. He forgot them...purposely. It's an LA thing.
It's been so long since I've heard arguments between people at least appearing mannered and intelligent. Thank you!!!
Thx for watching
Like Ben, I look at the thousand glowing puff pieces about Pete Buttigieg, and think the media don't deserve to be called out in any way for promoting and protecting center-right ideology.
wtfu ben watch msnbc for 10 minutes during the day then you'll be convinced
@@Shaun-Vargas He sure talks like they do! I'm so tired of the fact that they expect us, without any evidence at all, to trust them that are the only type of people that really know how it is. there excuse always is that, I've been doing this for years, ok that may be true but answer me this, if it is true what they say then why has the political process, for all these years of them doing this, it has gotten way worse. step aside ben and let us new thinkers have a go
everyone calm down i like Ben and i like Cenk. I like when they put Ben on the show because he gives a different point of view that is rooted in logic. Having people with different perspectives who want the same things helps me examine my own biases
Rooted in logic? What? Ben has the BIAS that the rich elitist media is righteous, bc he can't talk about his dinner party friends. That's his class. He is rooted in the establishment. The nerve to call Cenk an idiot over this. He stopped talking to Dore and throwing shade at him in an attempt to curb his anti russia-gate coverage. Now he is trying to stop Cenk from calling out the media which would be a horrible look for TYT but a win for investors and Ben's friends. It's gross. Ben provided no logic or reason other than his elitist friends are born royalty. Cenk gives as much evidence as he can on the spot, and Ben just calls him crazy and an idiot. Ben is an idiot. At least have a cover argument if your going to blindly support the establishment.
I can assure that Cenk is actually sane
The word you are looking for is
" insane ".
Colby Mason Well either way he’s in that stuff is all I’m trying to say
Ben's always irritated me for some reason.
Now, we know why.
Ben Diane Rodham Mankiewicz is sounding less and less progressive.
Wanting to go back in time politically, socially, technologically, etc is regressive. Which party is trying to Make Something Great Something-Something? I forget.
cenk's big epiphany is perfect, in the dark cabin he's wondering if ben is right ? is he crazy ? is he too
angry ? hell no, he's just a rebel, i love cenk just the way he is prosaic, feckless, and hilarious
Ben correcting Cenk on "the cruise I went to" tells you everything you need to know about Ben.
I like whenever Ben thinks he's said a clever thing. His body gets tense, he shifts excitedly in his seat, looks away, clasps his hands and drinks from his mug. It's pretty funny. It's like he's imagining a million hands patting him on he back
Ben you sound crazy !
Why is Ben on a so called progressive network?
Ben and Cenk founded the network
Yes. Most times I don't find any difference between Ben & MSNBC
@@tonysmith6967 if that's your opinion im all for it, i don't really listen to him that often, but i do believe you need those type of people, i don't feel he's that far from progressive view points tho
@@sauce_moses5731 Ben is disingenuous. He takes a dig at Greenwald for not doing journalism but then accuses Cenk of not being nuanced about the media and being too emotional and bias.
Ben has also been very flippant in what he says about people like Assange or even Jill Stein. Yet he always tells others to temper their criticism of mainstream media figures.
He is an example of someone surrounded by people further left than him who then thinks his mainstream opinion is unique. It is not unique. I don't see why having a parrot for the mainstream who pretends to be sympathetic to progressives is useful.
He seems like a contrarian just trying to trip up Cenk with his choice of words. What purpose does this serve the viewers?
Ben wtf are you even talking about? Cenk is completely right.
Cenk expressing anger over the shenanigans, is cathartic. He is a champion for a point of view. Sometimes, I don't agree with his take, but often I'm grateful Cenk is passionately fighting for us.
I miss Jimmy
don't we all
Absolutely.
Love that you debate and disagree with each other on air, I‘m definitely on Cenk‘s side tho
Jimmy should have instead spit the water in Ben's face.
With all due respect to Ben, what has his type of sensibility gotten us? We are fighting for our futures. We may not be violent about it but we are at war and there's more of us now than these complacent boomers so they need to get on board or step aside.
bingo! we can continue to debate the issues from an honest place, but why be fair to an institution that continues to be blantantly unfair to us and in representing our voices? i don't care if Cenk generalizes as the effects of the media's bias are still the same. let them do their jobs and represent the facts appropriately before giving them credit for the handful of times they do. the same watchdog principals the media should rely on in confronting power in government we should have in confronting our media! it's not personal, it's necessary.
@@theebonymaw Yup, I'd rather someone be so angry for us that they're willing to go yell at windmills rather than someone more worried about propriety.
im with Cenk on this..
I love the directness of this conversation.
Warren lost a lot of credibility with me when she endorsed Clinton.
A Democrat supporting the Democratic nominee. How unheard of! Bernie didn't have the votes. He wasn't going to be the nominee. Who the hell was she going to endorse, Jill Stein?
Look, it's coming up on 2020. Don't you think it's time to move on?
@@mgeek1 1. support and endorse are not at all the same thing 2. If he wasn't going to be the nominee, why did the DNC cheat and ADMIT it? 3. Your whole argument implies "one democrat is the same as any other Democrat" which is hilariously wrong. 4. do ever get anything right?
Ben is insane.
Ben brings some balance but Cenk is my favourite TYT host. I wouldn't want him to change. I think he's spot on with his views on the media.
Ben is living in a bubble...
WTF - that‘s some massive amount of nuance trolling by Ben in the first 15-20 minutes.
Ben is the only one who can bring Cenk back down to earth. Love these guys together.
Ben is wrong though.
Ben used to be the level-headed one on TYT, he is completely cloud-headed now...
Yeah I think he should run for president on the Democratic ticket in 2016.
@@mgenetos haha definitely!
....what alternative universe is Ben living in and what’s the rent look like? 🤔
Him and Michael "Mr. Conventional Wisdom" Shure, are bastions of establishment thinking.
Ben tells cenk, enough of the cartoon voices and cenk goes right into cartoon voices. Lol!
Ben is wrong on everything, but Cenk has to stop the goofy voices.
don't forget Ben came from money and made his career in local TV news. He absorbed the values of cheap sensationalist journalism. He also wines and dines with the wealthy circles of California. He's wrong on every point here.
No. Ben is less radical on economic views than wacky Cenk.
And yes, Cenk sounds crazy in this video.
@@HusseinDoha no, Ben is an elitist prick that stopped talking to Jimmy Dore bc he didn't follow the Russia gate narritive.
Totally, his country club etiquette and class bias is coming through strong here. I always value his perspective, though.
@@MichaeltDeely Yep, @Z.F.A. is right. Ben's dad was wealthy and was a Dem insider. Cenk is a son of an immigrant from Turkey. Big difference.
Above all else, what I like the most is a boss allowing himself being offended and focusing on the idea itself, no matter who's idea is better.
To be fair, Ben is an "independent contractor." Lol....
@@cmbsoldja Who are prone to be fired all the same, right?
@@bobzter434 One way to characterize the severing of ties, perhaps. But I would say only a boss can fire someone, and Cenk isn't his boss.
@@cmbsoldja The one who pays has always power, call 'em boss or contractor. Semantics apart, the beauty is the dissipation of that power and hierarchy and freely relate as equals.
@@bobzter434 Tru
Bernie did it with Ted Cruz. He talked about his donors on a debate.
Establishment Ben
I'm with Cenk. You sound crazy!
Cenk is the crazy one,so you need help.
@ you're watching a TYT video.... so it sounds like you're trolling. I agree with Cenk, we have corporate Democrats getting full coverage, real progressive platforms attacked. If you think I need help that's your right. But our country deserves everything other countries have. We're great at war, killing babies, destroying plush fertile land, but when it comes to making sure we have a healthy, educated nation, corporations rule - profit rules, and they pit us against each other as the 'other' are not worthy. We are worthy - don't fall in the 'separation' trap that keeps us sick and uneducated. Soon they'll make us pay for air! They will bleed us dry because some fall to the 'other' racist illusion. If aliens attacked us, will you then see we're all human?
I love Ben even harder with crazy hair.
No wonder Jimmy left.
VB3
Yuppp
Jimmy constantly sniped at Ben for being a journalist student from Columbia Uni. He's very corporate.
I love these disagreements!
"You Sound Crazy" @ 5:41
Ben is like a slot machine that every once in a while Cenk sticks a coin in and Ben just erupts with a geyser of myopic denial ridden conventional wisdom. 🤮
IcarusLime nicely put
Really enjoyed this discussion, I find Ben's input and perspective refreshing. TYT needs to keep this guy.
I love that Ben Mankiewicz is on this network. I tend to agree with most of the panelists, but it's important to stay grounded, and he definitely provides that.
Thx
TYT needs Ben back on the main show more often
There are times I absolutely agree with Ben, and TYT needs to be more journalistic, but at the same time, that emotion is what draws people in, sadly.
Cenk you are getting bigger. Is this a ploy to defeat the 'Hulk'?
Ben is bucking for that MSNBC job.
Cenk is right as usual. I don‘t know what‘s goong on with Ben.. does he live in an alternate universe?
Ben just squirms & slowly admits Cenks right as if he didn’t & moves on to moving the goal post.
I like this side of TYT.
Ben is great! He should be on there more often.
TYT is largely built around Cenk’s polemic and perspective, and it’s really nice to have a dissenting voice on the show from time to time.
I can imagine a lot of viewers won’t like what he’s saying, but there you go. News isn’t just what you want to hear.
It would help if Ben had a point. Saying that someone sounds like an idiot and the not being able to articulate why, is pointless.
If you want to hear what Ben thinks, you can hear it from one of the thousands on CNN and MSNBC.
Have you ever held a referendum in the US? About any subject.
I never like Bens point of view he seems so corporate rather then progressive , Ben is super biased !
Cenk is biased yet you like him.
Ben is a critic of fiction, Cenk of reality.
Ben doesn’t belong on TYT anymore
I vehemently disagree with Bens position on this but that is the great thing about tyt.. you can get more than one perspective.. more than a perspective you might agree with.. It is ok to have different perspectives and still have rational conversation on the same channel...
Not sure why the hate for Ben is going on here, this is just 2 dudes hashing out their different view points. Ben is a calmer. more level headed guy; Cenk is more emotional. They each have their own approach. This is how discourse should happen.
"Ben is calmer, more level headed." Ben " You sound crazy. You sound dumb." Yeah, SUPER level headed lol
That's how extremists react. They quickly rely on ad hominem instead of having an actual argument.
Trump's "full employment" does NOT mean that it's 1 person 1 job, just so you know. This economy of full employment means damn near half the country has more than one income which is what is the actual reality of the matter. Who likes having little to zilch social life b/c all they're time is spent working for the man.
Great debate
It's part of their podcast Old School.
I enjoy cenk anger it’s a breath of fresh air when getting the news !
I'm sorry, but you only purchased the five minute argument.
I so agree with Cenk re: money in politics and Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren is the only one who talks about policy. But until we take money out of politics, nothing but nothing will ever get done. We have to take money out of politics.
@@markgorenshtein1946 I don't equate money with free speech. I see it as buying influence only. But I agree with you in establishing mandates to limit spending and to report all donations. I would also add that all donations should be made public.
Remember Ben works on the TMC with loads of sponsors so he has to walk a thin line.
Well he definitely failed the drunk test this day.
Tough call, but overall a great shot over the heads of many partisans. Let's see somebody else be as honestly introspective as TYT and still pat themselves on the back.
Ben answers everything now like he is planning to run for some office, trying not to offend political agents, refusing to even agree with cenk that money influences votes.
agree with Cenk. no more 2 party system which are both corrupt
Backhanded by his friend. Rewatch it. Amazing Cenk for a second put head down for millisecond. Ben M. Domination.
lol have you heard of something called "exasperation"
I see "old school" - I like!
Ehm, I think Ben is on the wrong network. I hear CNN are hiring
i thought they were only hiring gop loyalists as of lately. thats too much even for ben
@@jaygoldstein1046 Ben AND Cenk do........
Thats excactly what that self serving little weasel is doing right now.
It's time for Ben to go. I really love him. I do. But he's gotta go.
Bring back Jimmy. Let Ben go.
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Jimmy left FOR S REASON!!! READ BETWEEN THE LINES!
Jimmy ain't coming back. That Neera Tandem episode was too much dem pandering.
@@VeteranVandal i didnt think it was that bad. You're talking about the interview right?
@@TCt83067695 Just tolerating her presence was too much. Sum that with Russiagate and you'll see there's no coming back.
@@VeteranVandal lol i know what you mean
I hate when mom and dad fight
🔮 Ben will follow Jimmy and Dave
Jesse Lee Peterson not exactly true (cofounder) but look how Cenk get ousted from the Justice Democrats (that he also confounded)
how can you compare Jimmy to dave? wtf :D
Kamil Chara the point being made was both used to be with the young Turks and are no longer 🤦🏽♂️
@@countrymorgan2942 oh ok, i thought you meant that jimmy will be a shill like Rubin
@Jesse Lee Peterson Dave being a honest liberal, are you for real? Maybe you havent see his work for last couple of years. TYT is awful, was for a long time, but Dave is much, much worse.
Stay pissed Cenk
Ben, the media shouldn’t be part of the system
See this video is true to the level of objectivity I subscribed to 3 years ago. Since 2016 tyt has gone from objective independent news media, to the Media Arm of the Bernie campaign
😂🤣😂🤣
Maybe if the government would pay for the first two years of higher learning then more people could take advantage of it. People could learn a trade and those who want to go for higher paying jobs could pay the additional costs themselves.
It is a little bit unsettling when you figure out that you're taking a path Less Traveled. It can be lonely. But you have to ask yourself the question, could you be Rachel Maddow? You already know you had your opportunity and you know you're not that. The question is, is the life of Rachel Maddow worth living? Not for someone like you. Embrace what you are.
I think it is better now. But we should still call out media and also talk about our own biases
Ben is insulting.
"You sound dumb, you sound crazy". This should be a private conversation, they shouldn't broadcast this undermining and disrespect of the leader of the network.
One of my favorite things about Cenk is his openness, for instance, his willingness to show different perspectives, to show him screw up, to show him being wrong, etc.
And my least favorite thing about Ben is his establishment bias.
This is also another case where he shows that he treats his employees as equals.
I'm fine with them all being equals. And that just proves my point. I can't picture Cenk ever telling one of his co-hosts they sound dumb or they sound crazy while on the air. Look, if they get together on their own time and let loose with the language, that's fine and I would expect it. I just think it's improper to do this on the air.
You want to say someone is wrong and here's why, that's fine. You want to say "you sound like you're going overboard", that's fine. But calling another Young Turk dumb or crazy is too harsh, especially the leader of the network. It makes Cenk seem less credible and becomes fodder for their right wing haters/opponents to use as video clip memes when berating TYT, or Cenk personally. Don't get me wrong, I love Ben! He's probably my favorite Young Turk beside Cenk, just saying I don't think this is a smart thing to broadcast.
@@mozfan2436 couldn't agree more with your comment this calling dumb and crazy is a bit much, specially if you use it instead of an actual argument, just saying that's dumb and crazy without saying why doesn't mean anything, and it gives cannon fodder for the haters. I know some will say he did gave reasons except he didn't really back them up to any reasonable degree.
I really don't care that the dumb and crazy thing was directed at cenk tho, being head of the network gives you no special immunity, i don't like it when he does it to Jimmy or when Jimmy does it back equally
More cursing. No Censorship!
I can't stand centrist Ben. Never could. Rich boy.
Everyone working at TYT is a trustfund brat.
So Ben... Do you also think we're reading too much into headlines where black people are always described negatively? Or is that the media being honest?
There's something wrong with Ben.
Sotally Tober I smell and spot a right whinger.
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First time I have ever respected this show. When Cenk is challenged on his biased view the world has hope.