I have the 40L Grainfather system with its counterflow chiller. It was taking forever and wasted a lot of water, so I rigged up a second immersion chiller and placed it in a bucket with ice. The ground water goes through it and into the counterflow chiller at a much lower temperature. I works great and can cool five gallons to pitching temp in about 15 minutes.
Nothing special is needed here. Simply use a cleaning product like PBW and recirculate it through the CFC for 10 minutes from your brewing system and then do the same with just heated water.
i already have the countrflow chiller that came with my grainfather setup i dont see a reason to buy another one just yet but a nice little video as usual david keep it up
Very nice indeed, the other day it took me almost an hour to get to pitching temp with the Brewezilla 30's immersion chiller, but a little pricey for someone like me who does not brew very often. Any recommendations for something a bit cheaper but still good?
Thank you. Its tricky to recommend more budget chillers as they are unlikely to be an upgrade on what you have, unless you can get something used perhaps.
I am a bit worried about not seeing if the copper inside the chiller starts oxidizing. I'm sure they are great at chilling down wort, but can you tell me how save they are to use long term?
As long as you use a good cleaning schedule after each brew then you really have nothing to worry about in my opinion. Many counterflow chillers are used world wide and the majority use copper inside. Copper was used for water pipes in hosing in most countries for a very long time until the money saving plastic pipes started to be used in newer housing.
David, thanks again for your videos. At 3,30 in the video you show the hozelock connect and mention an adaptor. I've been looking for something like this for a while. Could you share a link please to somewhere i might be able to get one in the UK?
I"d imagine that getting crap out of this twisted copper gonna be a PITA. A bit skeptical about the advertised chilling speed as well. It mostly depends of how cold is cooling water initially and what water pressure you have in your water supply system. Usually the lack of contact surface area is not a problem with these coolers, so no such a twisted pipe even needed unless you have temperature and pressure problems with your water supply.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. A normal cleaning cycle will suffice, this is not the only product of this type. Yes chilling speed will vary but this design will help for sure, its not that its needed more than it offers advantage.
Politely… I refuse to use any more copper in my system. Stainless steel only. You have no idea what the inside of that coil looks like. If you’ve ever screwed up the exterior of copper, you know how tricky it can be to get it in good shape again. Visual confirmation is critical. There’s a reason the pros don’t use any copper. Stainless can handle cleaning with powerful agents - both acids and bases - so you know it’s good to go.
I respect your feelings here. However to say that pros do not use cooper is incorrect. Also many chillers do not allow for visual inspection but a good cleaning routine will keep things in check.
@@theghostofsw6276 exposure to vapor is very different from exposure to boiling wort and hob debris that you can’t visually confirm removal of. I’ve accidentally gotten verdigris (green/blue corrosion) on copper before, and chemical removal (without scrubbing) was very difficult. After that experience I’ll never trust copper I can’t see/scrub. Immersion chillers are fine because the liquid inside never touches your wort.
Fair point, though I do have plenty of subscribers and viewers in Europe and this is certainly a good product to cover for them :) I do mention this in the opening part of the video to not waste anyones time.
Really like the idea of fitting the camlock to the wort in tube. Will make connecting up the chiller much easier!
For sure 🍻🍻🍻
Just got a spike counter flow,it rocks
Yes, it uses the same internal design as this one but is a bit shorter in coil length.
Excellent idea looks very good quality. Great video as usual :)
Thanks Paul 😎🍻🍻
I have the 40L Grainfather system with its counterflow chiller. It was taking forever and wasted a lot of water, so I rigged up a second immersion chiller and placed it in a bucket with ice. The ground water goes through it and into the counterflow chiller at a much lower temperature. I works great and can cool five gallons to pitching temp in about 15 minutes.
Yes, if you have warmer ground water this works well. I dont have that issue in Norway 🍻🍻🍻
I can't wait for the comparaison to know if it worth to change my g30 chiller that have some plastic issues... As usual you did a great overview video
Thank you 🍻🍻🍻
Thank you 🍻🍻🍻
Great video,I've been looking for a quicker way to cool down the wort and to use and waste less water. I'll check it out.
Thanks Joe 🍻🍻🍻
Hi! The internal piping is made of copper. How to wash and disinfect it?
Nothing special is needed here. Simply use a cleaning product like PBW and recirculate it through the CFC for 10 minutes from your brewing system and then do the same with just heated water.
Great review. Would be pretty interesting if you took a look at their fermenters too.
Great, thank you 🍻🍻🍻
i already have the countrflow chiller that came with my grainfather setup i dont see a reason to buy another one just yet
but a nice little video as usual david keep it up
Fair enough and thank you 🍻🍻🍻
Very nice indeed, the other day it took me almost an hour to get to pitching temp with the Brewezilla 30's immersion chiller, but a little pricey for someone like me who does not brew very often. Any recommendations for something a bit cheaper but still good?
Thank you. Its tricky to recommend more budget chillers as they are unlikely to be an upgrade on what you have, unless you can get something used perhaps.
I am a bit worried about not seeing if the copper inside the chiller starts oxidizing.
I'm sure they are great at chilling down wort, but can you tell me how save they are to use long term?
As long as you use a good cleaning schedule after each brew then you really have nothing to worry about in my opinion.
Many counterflow chillers are used world wide and the majority use copper inside. Copper was used for water pipes in hosing in most countries for a very long time until the money saving plastic pipes started to be used in newer housing.
Thanks for the video!
I've been checking their pressure conical fermenters, any plans on trying them?
@@Humlegruvan No plans at this point but that could change 🍻🍻🍻
David, thanks again for your videos. At 3,30 in the video you show the hozelock connect and mention an adaptor. I've been looking for something like this for a while. Could you share a link please to somewhere i might be able to get one in the UK?
These are brewtools components. If you can get brewtools in the UK you can get it from there. 34mm tri-clamps
Yes, I got this from Brewtools. Super good quality for sure.
@@DavidHeathHomebrew Hi David, sorry I wasn't specific, it's the Hozelock to non-Hozelock adapter that I'm struggling to find.
Oh, ok. These screw into your tap. Easy to find on Ali express or in honebrew stores.
Can you give us some times comparisons? How fast is it compared to grainfather counterflow?
I plan to do a comparison later yes :)
Do you see any concerns with the twisted copper? To me it looks like there could be potential issues getting this completely cleaned inside
Personally no. As long as you implement a good cleaning schedule.
Any chance of doing a chill speed test against the Gf CF chiller and Brewtools chiller?
I have been thinking about something like this too. I will see what I can do.
Isn't there a problem of galvanic corrosion when you have a stainless and copper tube with water in between? I mean, you never get all the water out
Ive not had any issues and ive been using CFC with copper for over a decade.
I"d imagine that getting crap out of this twisted copper gonna be a PITA. A bit skeptical about the advertised chilling speed as well. It mostly depends of how cold is cooling water initially and what water pressure you have in your water supply system. Usually the lack of contact surface area is not a problem with these coolers, so no such a twisted pipe even needed unless you have temperature and pressure problems with your water supply.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
A normal cleaning cycle will suffice, this is not the only product of this type. Yes chilling speed will vary but this design will help for sure, its not that its needed more than it offers advantage.
Erm, you forgot to talk about the chilling speed? Is it faster than the competition then?
It seems so but only a carefully set up comparison will verify this.
Looks like they’re located in the Czech Republic, where did you buy yours?
Yes, from the Czech republic 🍻🍻🍻
@@DavidHeathHomebrew Sweet setup for sure. Thanks again!!
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brewtaurus system price looks reasonable too.
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Politely… I refuse to use any more copper in my system. Stainless steel only. You have no idea what the inside of that coil looks like. If you’ve ever screwed up the exterior of copper, you know how tricky it can be to get it in good shape again. Visual confirmation is critical.
There’s a reason the pros don’t use any copper. Stainless can handle cleaning with powerful agents - both acids and bases - so you know it’s good to go.
I respect your feelings here. However to say that pros do not use cooper is incorrect. Also many chillers do not allow for visual inspection but a good cleaning routine will keep things in check.
Why don't you just do a vinegar run....like every distiller does through their copper?
@@theghostofsw6276 exposure to vapor is very different from exposure to boiling wort and hob debris that you can’t visually confirm removal of.
I’ve accidentally gotten verdigris (green/blue corrosion) on copper before, and chemical removal (without scrubbing) was very difficult. After that experience I’ll never trust copper I can’t see/scrub.
Immersion chillers are fine because the liquid inside never touches your wort.
@@grahamhawes7089 If you can't run vapour through your copper then search "551 cleaning mixture" you'll find your solution there.....literally.
@@grahamhawes7089 If you can't run vapour through your copper then search "551 cleaning mixture" you'll find your solution there.....literally.
Three hundred euro 😂
It was never going to be cheap was it? 🍻😎🍻😎
@DavidHeathHomebrew Unless you build one yourself like i did for a third of cost.
Sure, if you have the time and skills for that 🍻🍻🍻
Can't get in the USA, so this is not really useful to most brewers watching this channel, sadly.
Fair point, though I do have plenty of subscribers and viewers in Europe and this is certainly a good product to cover for them :) I do mention this in the opening part of the video to not waste anyones time.
There are other countries in the world dude...
@ Exactly 🍻🍻🍻. This is a worldwide channel.
Wow, just wow