Why the mystery of this tower still confuses me
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The circle of rocks at the very peak is a signal fire location and the small drill marks are from twirling a stick against tinder to start the fire over and over. Once the hole gets too deep to easily scoop out the burning tinder they have to move to a fresh location. It's not religious, it's just a signal fire and that's probably an outpost chosen for it's height and strategic advantage
Sound logic delivered with such an authoritative effect gives me confidence in its veracity.. Thanks for the highly plausible explanation, ese.
Definitely sounds completely reasonable. Thanks
This is the correct answer
Nice;) should be another within visual distance.
Very practical explanation. Love it!
Thanks for taking all of us who can’t make it there. Keep educating us!
Thanx again Jeff!!! For allowing your legs to take me on another adventure through the mid-west…
I am grateful you are here! 🙂
Educating us? All he has is questions!
@@thefred8481yes and amen !!!
@@twasbrilligandthesli At least his questions give food for thought. Nobody knows for sure the answers but we can speculate and with deep wonder imagine how it was back in that age. And never underestimate the power of the brain. The logic and feats of that age defeat some of modern day thinking and engineering, with what they had!
I’ve been a daily user of UA-cam for years and have never waited for a premiere before. Your content is great - thanks for being you!!
I feel so honored that you are waiting for a premiere from my channel! Thank you so much for being here! Found A LOT of great stuff on this trek!
*Freemont were pre-Columbian (1492) but horse petroglyphs were from Spanish era.*
Ive watched him for a few years. Im in muddy Mississippi. We have mounds and fields along creeks. These ruins blow me away.😮🔥👍
@@JamesJones-cx5pkI live in Rhode Island this looks like another planet to me lol
@@swankyginger5407 Indian villages here are easy to find. They are on the top tier of the creek/river flood plane. They usually plow around the mounds. Every year a new crop of arrow heads are exposed.👍
Sir, you are a true Rock Star.
Something religious. Thank you so much. There are many older people like me and many handicapped that can’t get out there anymore. You are a treasure for so many.
Yes! Thanks for the legs!!! 😃🥰🥾
@@LoriLockwood-hj1bf Every time he does a shot of the camera watching him walkaway I think, "Nice shot... BUT then you have to go back and pick up the camera, NOT with my legs!!!!!!!!!"
@@user-wm3bf7pi3u Hope he didn't walk too far. LOL
I loved the “ that’s me” drone shot. That really gives perspective.
Navajo Grandma says this is a language to those that pass thru for various first peoples across North America to each other, not art necessarily. She describes in her UA-cam videos what these symbols mean.
I believe I saw that one too
her video was interesting. She talked about people keeping to the high ridges and lighting fires to communicate from ridge to ridge and what some of the petroglyph’s meanings meant.
I know nothing about rock art but have always thought that it's not merely decorative. It's meant to convey info or tell a story.
I love to hear her explain the meaning behind every thing they left behind.
I have seen a few of her videos!
I could just sit there all day and enjoy that beautiful view.
Me too .
Me three!!! And listen to the wind & the birds & the thunderstorms!!
That is one peaceful place. So cool that you're honoring this special Fremont architecture. Thanks Jeff.
I'm from the UK. I really like your videos. I hope that all the ancient structures and rock art, you find, are properly documented and recorded, by the appropriate authorities, before they're lost forever.
A very tiny portion of them have been properly documented and catalogued. My son is studying cultural anthropology and materials art history. He was STUNNED to learn how little is known about the art, the lives and history of North American peoples.
Don't tell anyone mate. Leave it to go back to the earth naturally.
You are a joy to watch. I think it's because you yourself are filled with joy at all your discoveries.
I get huge vibes that was a place of desperation and fear. They were afraid of others and built a very difficult construction on hard to climb ground. They were at war...Or were being hunted. I have theories, but I do not think I can ever prove them. As I travel the southwest and go to all of these beautiful sites, the overwhelming impression is DEFENCE and fortification. Mesa Verde with all of it's beauty...the Anasazi wouldn't move from the mesa tops that they had inhabited for 100's of years and then move into cliff dwellings where access to everything was difficult unless they were defending against attack. And then they migrated away to the Rio Grande Valley. When they moved, everything changed...the pottery styles changed and the Old religion, with the stepped iconography went away and they changed to the Kachina religion. A major cultural shift. The Anasazi died then and became the Ancestral Puebloan and the tribes we know today. (Hopi, Acoma, Zuni etc.)
The construction you found are all over (As you well know) and they all are of a defensive style, in difficult locations typically quite away from water and places they could farm.
I could blather on, but for anyone wanting to get a great insight into the history of the southwest, please read Stephen Lekson's book "A History of the Ancient Southwest"...a fantastic book that is radically different than what you get at national parks. Violence is not something the Park Rangers want to talk about and I think that omission has hurt the true history of a fascinating and complex peoples.
When I lived on a reservation there were high places used for ceremonial dances
There used to be a river. The natural beauty of the whole area seems pretty significant, and like majestic and overwhelming. It's spiritual, I think.
I love your work.
Thank you.
Yes, a thousand years ago that river was full.
Art, I saw a video recently that was from a tribal member, and he said sometimes we take things too seriously, then he showed some rock drawings and how they were basically a comic strip in the native language.
The petroglyphs could be a personal diary of their isolation and survival up there. Trying to reach the heavens was very real to them I know at 13 years many tribes have a ceremony of isolation to mark the transformation to adulthood so this could be many generations taking on such challenges for young people because you have to be fit to scale those rocks. Loved the mystery as always you leave us questioning existance lol. :) :)
Drill marks always make me think of calendars, maybe they had a staff in the holes to align with celestial bodies.
That is an interesting idea about using a staff for solar alignments!
@@TheTrekPlanner I've seen a video where a researcher found a series of holes on a rock near the famous Lascaux cave in France. That's the cave with what is arguably the most famous cave paintings, believed to be 17,000 years old. The researcher was able to show that the series of holes was an astronomical & lunar calendar that was shown to be very easy to use. Notably, it was concluded it would have been used to calculate when there'd be a rare alignment with the cave opening, likely considered sacred. If the Utah holes had a similar explanation, I wonder if there was a particular alignment that was significant to its creators and what that might be?
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The shadow alignment with the marks can’t be accidental.
@@SGTSTUUHHDANKKO Oh! Excellent observation. I missed that.
They do really look like somewhere where you’d stick a bunch of sticks.
I want to let you know you’re my favorite hiking channel because you go all the places I could possibly go. I can’t scale mountains and climb dangerous areas. I’m a senior so you keep doing safe treks that I enjoy most. Thank you very much, sir.
Wow! What an amazing video! Watching you free climb up those rocks too was badass! It’s good to know that you have a rock climbing background too - I guess that explains how you’re able to do crazy stuff like this!
Thank you for being awesome and taking us along on another adventure❤
Cleared circles are prevalent in the upper Mojave in many remote locations. Especially in Sailine Valley, west of Lone Pine, CA. Many have holes around the outside indicating they may have been used for construction on a brush wind block or shelter.
That makes sense. Especially as they are so close together.
They're from drilling a stick into tinder thousands of times over the years to start a fire in the fire pit circle of stones. Remote because signal fires can be seen for many miles and info can be passed over huge distances with a network of signal fire outposts
@@SM-mc2zl That seems to be the most logical explanation to me. Also, signal fires and smoke signals aren't just a cliche from western movies. They were really used.
That's about what I would think, something along those lines. People lived high up on cliffs in similar areas. Maybe they were to hold poles for walls or holders for poles for hanging things on, fences, or floor poles?
@@SM-mc2zl nope
When I read Spanish missionary manuscripts talking about Pericu natives of the Southern Baja, they talked about the natives building rock sort of corrals/enclosures with no roofs simply for sleeping in. There is very little rain most of the year down there but the wind is pretty constant and can be cold at night. So some of the circles you found might have been sleeping shelters if not defensive. Great video.
another great hike, thanks for sharing..
Some of the walls, right on the edge look like they were designed to come down all at once with removal of a couple stones. Giant defence.
Love your channel! You take me to places I am unable to go!!
Over 50 years ago as a young middle school student I knew that there was a significance to the cultural artifacts from the state of Arizona. Your videos inspire youngsters who can respect and appreciate the importance of preserving our relationship with the land and the artifacts for future generations to learn about the ancients .
Very interesting hike and exploration in this video. I really enjoyed the scenery and Native people's structures and art.
wonderful video. I am a maker of flutes and drums in the native style. when you show shots of you atop the stones with the land spread out below. I wish to sit there one night by firelight and weave music out under the stars. As I am sure was done in one form or another by the people who lived there long ago. perhaps it is just my thinking. those who made their homes upon lofty stone. If they still linger there. may not understand our words. But if it were to slip through the weave of time the notes of music. they would understand. And perhaps answer in kind.
And I want to join you. Years ago, a friend played her violin in the evening at Chaco Canyon. The next morning, people told her they wept at the beautiful sound.
It might be a place for smoke signals. The holes were from fire starting? You could communicate across to the next ridge...
So nice to see you again! Thank you for sharing
There's a Fremont ruin about a mile away from my brother's house in Sandy Utah. It's in a city park in a suburban area but after study by the university of Utah, it was buried to protect it from vandalism.
Good..🧐
To prevent anyone from 'vanadlizing' it they buried it so it's instead, forever lost. Good plan.
I love all the colors on the rocks from the different types of lichen or whatever it is
I really appreciate the peaceful vibe your videos carry. Instead of trying to force anything you really let the landscapes speak for themselves. Thanks for sharing these adventures.
Looking at those holes, made me think of weaving. Stick some upright sticks in those hole and weave "rope" between them as a wind break? Especially in winter, the winds must scream down those plateaus during winter. The windbreak would protect a fire from being blown out and keep warmth along those stacked rocks. Just a guess. 😃
Cool theory. Worth more research.
awww, c'mon, gimme a break......i had watch duty yesterday!
If you are being hunted you become proficient at protecting yourself. Thanks again for taking us along!
You are so lucky to be in such a beautiful place !I have never realized the wonder and the beauty of the western desserts of the United States I hiked a very small part of the Appalachian trail and the Smokey mountains where our people are from I have only driven thru the desserts.I am a quarter Apache and you have seen more than I have! I grew up in the cities, running to the oceans and the mountains every chance I could! I like your show and the respect you show to those who came before us. God Bless.
Glad to be here
Love this hike. Excellent job of naration, Jeff. 😊
I would think they are torch holders. It looks like a security lookout 😊 Also a way to communicate, as you can see another lookout at a distance.
I'm hooked on trekking with you, Jeff! From the comfort of my couch... after just falling off my bike, on a paved trail lol.
I get the feeling that it was a look out.
A warning system.
Maybe they lit a fire in the small circle on top.
Maybe the drill holes were purely done from boredom by the posted watcher. Lol
Great explore!
I really enjoyed this one.
Thank you 🙏
Your boredom hypothesis is interesting. It reminded me of a story by an old WWII navy vet I worked with in the 1980's. He told me how when he was enlisted he'd frequently get drunk & insubordinate. The punishment was to get thrown into the lockup with a two pound length of the thick rope used to tie ships to the docks. The prisoners would get released only when they'd completely unbraided the rope. The fibres would be weighed before release. Some sailors would unbraid the rope in a day, others a week. My coworker said he once did it in a day but his fingernails & gums were bleeding from the effort it took to pick & knaw apart the tightly braded cable.
Anyways, thinking of the boredom hypothesis and my story, maybe a young warrior had to stay posted up there until they produced a satisfactory hole?
@@rossmacintosh5652 they make marbles in the holes like that
Smoke signals !
Maybe I watched too many cowboy movies ! 😂
Again I will say you have a great channel! You entertain the audience with the mystery and history.👊
I wonder if it could be a watch tower/fire tower. Did you see any wood tucked under that rock? I could see a teenager up there, maybe the circle had a pile of wood and the attached bit was a little covered area to sit out of the sun? Light the fire and run away if they see anyone come around the bend of the river?
I think the thing to remember is how different it all would have looked hundreds of years ago. There was clearly a river running beside the hills and mesas that would have been able to sustain life. It is just so very amazing what they were able to accomplish.
That would make a great watchtower. Or a signal post. (I hate to mention the old 'smoke signal tripe, but a signal fire might have been good on that point.)
In any case, a very cool find.
You being up that high freaks me out. But thank you for climbing up for us!
Again, you have taken us with you to an ancient ruin mystery. This was worth the wait, Thank you
I could talk about this one forever. In the end, I will mention the second horse. You mentioned on, but not the other. When I screenshot that one for my family, they each said--"Horse". Cool stuff.
There is some very interesting information about How the Horse First Entered Native American Culture. I think about it when I see Indian art of a horse.
I love your respect. I love your wonder. I love your hat. 😂
Thank you for sharing your great treks. Your drone work is gorgeous.
That was GREAT!
Your videos are fantastic!
Wow! So many unexpected and unanticipated treasures on this adventure. Particularly those drilled holes. So cool. Thanks. for the visitation with us.
Beautiful and scenic- thank you for taking us along
Much love from London UK- its so great getting to experience the beauty of your country from this grey urban place.
Hi there, Trek Planner. Love the channel. Sending lots of love from Bermuda!❤
I used to live in beautiful Bermuda many years ago. I miss being there. Did you just get a bad rainstorm?
@@rossmacintosh5652 just Hurricane Ernesto, luckily it didn't blow us all away!
@@LadyDi82 A fews days after hitting Bermuda, the remnants of it (no longer a hurricane) hit us here in Atlantic Canada. Lots of rain! Hopefully only blue skies from now on for both of us! 🙂
I love the hat. Mountain Dude!
That was excellent, questions, questions, questions.....what a fantastic landscape, stay safe mate, and thank you.
Thank you for adding the historical information about the peoples that inhabited this area. That, along with the drone footage, really makes this an interesting video!
Thank you for taking us along on another great adventure!
Thank you for letting me share that experience of wonder with you! WOW!
I'm so happy you take us along on these journies. This is something especially at my age I wouldn't be able to experience or see otherwise.
Thank you so much for widening our perspective and experiences! Fantastic drone work!
Another awesome find. I'd recommend sending a photo of the holes to the State archeologist to record it or perhaps find out what they know about them. Great video. Happy trails. Be safe.
I have suggested he talk to the pros to get a read on these videos. Don’t know why he doesn’t do that.
This complex has been studied for a long time.
@@shaynejenkins446 So, do you know the answer regarding the holes?
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WOW!
Now I’m looking on top of the mountains as I’m driving. I really enjoy your videos.
A beautiful and haunting glimpse of the past. Thank you for sharing!
Wow! What a discovery! Thank you for taking us with you. 🙏
14:00 we get a lot of answers to questions like this by asking the local natives. In a lot of areas, the old ceremonial ways are still remembered if not still practiced.
If you know the type of lichen down in the holes you could get a good earliest-date for the site.
I love the cloud's shadows sliding across the background.
OK Jeff, having studied the Egyptians, Canaanites, Greeks, Etruscans, Romans, Druids, and Nordic beliefs and calendars, my guess is that the location is a celestial observatory. The circular holes could have held vertical sticks to mark days in a lunar month. Time was an existential blessing and a curse so they had to be extremely accurate, and I am sure they were, their lives depended not it. Jeff that is a spectacular site, and I thank you for sharing it with us. Personal note, on Thursday August 29th I walked 27 miles in Scottsdale, AZ in 107 degree weather, a new record for me. Not bad for 70 years of age. Thank You Jeff for all you do for all of us who respect you tremendously. Wow! What a view.
I think you are spot on.
Also, kudos on your heat training. Pushing one's self in the heat is akin to those that do the polar bear plunge. Over time, the body will adapt.
Anyway, I liked your observation.
Me too.
Wow, 70! Good on ya! Marking the Solstice shadows with a permanent hole or spot would make sense. Yes Time to harvest or plant your agriculture is critical, & grainery storage is a good possibility for these small structures.
This was SOOOOOOO amazing, Josh. I felt like I was right there with you!! WONDERFUL!!! Thank you soooo much!!!
The holes are for lighting a fire, you put tinder in the hole and spin the stick to get a little spark going, once the hole gets to deep to use your finger and fish it out you start another hole. If you started a fire nightly you would make many holes. Most things you see are just part of life not for any religious idea. That is too often assigned to things, yes they had beliefs but not everything was because of their beliefs. Much of what they did was to get food and fend off other tribes that attacked to take slaves and more territory. You might like the translations from the explorers into the area, their used to be translations from the Portuguese that traveled all over North America but I have not been able to find them googleing anymore.
Great facts thank you for sharing your analogy.
The height was scaring me! You're brave! Great video as always, Jeff, thank you.
Hei man ! keep safe! brand new Romanian sub here 😎
Loved it!
Let's go!
I don't know what that site is for... however, it's bizarre how much my heart feels full when I see these places. I'm drawn to the landscapes, and I've even painted many Native American women because their spirits call to me. I have no tribal blood in my DNA so I don't know if my love and appreciation comes from my family and all the rich experiences they gave me when we traveled multiple times to the Four Corners area. Or, is it something else? Anyway, I appreciate these videos... I wish I was the one doing the investigating. It's just all so beautiful and mysterious.
Great video, thank you!
Wow first time here,very cool finds.
I'm jealous of you! I spent a good time of my late 30's walking the sand hills of west Texas hunting arrowheads exploring the sides of the Edward's plateau hunting fossils but all that came to a halt when walking into my kitchen and stumbling while headed to get coffee. That stumble left me with a total ankle rebuild and a new walking assistant called a cane. So climbing sides of hills and hiking days are gone. But I found your channel and I really enjoy watching reminds of the fun I used to have. Keep cranking out the videos I do get jealous but I do enjoy them many thanks!!!
the rock art seems to indicate an abundance, perhaps the locations of natural springs that have long dried up that big horn sheep and other animals would gather.
Gosh- I just LOVE your walk.abouts!! This place feels very special to me....thank you for taking us along...
I, like you, am baffled by this one. Most of my life I have explored sites in the southwest like you have. Been to maybe a hundred different sites, and I’ve never seen one like this. My only guess is perhaps an astronomical observatory. Putting sticks in different holes to see where the shadow would fall, telling them about the seasons, or calculating the solaces. But just a huge guess on my part.
I so enjoy your video's. I am 80 years old and unable to do the things I love. I enjoyed exploring and had a keen interest in the Indian cultures. I lived in Wyoming with my husband, at the time, and we went on many trips. Saw some interesting sites, and things we could never figure out. It was a way of life I so enjoyed. So thank you for your videos, and insights. I often go on google and look up what I have seen. Found a lot are of spiritual ceremonies. Now I am intriqued... so off to exploreon line. Thank you again for the spiritual uplift your shows give me....
Thank you for another wonderful adventure!
Dude that is incredible photography of an incredible site. Touching on The Proper People level, well done lad.
If we were to surmise that the drawings and symbols are a type of language and that the people passing through the area were leaving messages for others, then how hard would it be to imagine that the small buildings at the highest points were also used as another form of communication? I don't know why but the holes that had been drilled in front of the one structure seemed like they could have held torches. They could have been used to signal their location to other travelers. And instead of other people, could the small structures have been used to protect the people manning the signal torches from animals? Don't know what large cats or other animals that would have been native to the area 1000 years ago. Just imagining.....and kicking around ideas. As always, thanks for taking us along!
I really enjoy your adventures and that you take the time to post them. Thank you!
Outstanding!
That transition when you started walking up that steep part from 3rd person to 1st person view was spot on!
Thank you for a wonderful trip! I think it had to be a spiritual place.
What an incredible find! That place feels sacred, though your lense at lease. It is so high, so isolated, and clearly not a dwelling structure. But by all of the petroglyphs, that area was good hunting! The surrounding land seems so hauntingly beautiful. I am loving your photography and your editing. You tell an entertaining story!
Yes, one of your Best videos yet~
Amazing find!!
Thank you Jeff!! ❤
Thank you Jeff for another very interesting video!
Arid, Lonely, Steep, Stoney, Circular, Elevated, Artistic, Stormy, Abandoned, Amazing..........words that came to my mind!
I think the first site was ceremonial in nature. The holes are there as markers of time. The "Priest" would position himself in the smaller round spot.
Thank you for taking us to this beautiful place! I know there are lots of reasons for these structures, from spiritual, to defense, to finding and storing food, but I hope another reason was to sit and enjoy the beauty around them, like you’re helping us to do, today.
Yeah, my fear of heights started kicking in....wow!