200 Year Old Map Solves Mystery In The Forest
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- I've finally solved the mystery of the strange deep holes I found in the forest on a recent solo wild camping trip in Ireland. The story spreads over 200 years and involves an epidemic that led to a decision that destroyed an entire rural community.
Big thanks to @IrelandOutdoors for the help on this!
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UPDATE! Temporary fencing has now been put up around the holes. No official reply yet, but I’m assuming this means they have plans for something more permanent.
Did you have many underground coal mines or other mines in Ireland ????
Why are they full of water? Is it the water table, or do they not drain well, and they are full rain water build up?
Still an awesome discovery, and for those wondering why they are full of water, that would probably make sense if they were test holes. Filling up with water would probably be what they were testing for to see if it was suitable to build a dam there. If they fill up with water, the soil is saturated and a dam might wash away which would explain why they didn't build one.
4:30 - that's not a house, that's a mansion, and it's probably more like 500-1000 years old.
Awesome and good job with the string. Hopefully you get to know for sure
Very interesting. The idea of someone walking through those woods (especially at night) not knowing those holes were there, terrifies me.
I do wonder why the test holes were made so close to houses though.
Hi, my latest research puts these holes at about 1945, long after the houses were abandoned. I suspect the holes put there because of ease of access, there was probably remains of old tracks to those houses still in 45.
@@IrelandOutdoors That makes sense.
Cheers for reply and happy history hunting.
@@IrelandOutdoors right since the old map was marking the kilns, that means the holes could be made at any time. thanks for the update
@@offan- Maybe the map was scaled differently than assumed.
Those "dwellings" were probably the lime kilns and the dwellings long gone.
@@IrelandOutdoors So if that's the case, what WHERE they dug for?, if not for checking the water supply for a famine / typhoid time purpose? Test Holes still make sense, though, except why, exactly, may still be a question.
This is the content I need from local channels
That's what I like a good investigation,,, dig up history, maps , papers etc.... Excellent Work Sir !!! Thank You !!!!
Utterly fascinating. Thank you.
What the English government did to Ireland was horrendous and I’m truly sorry the Irish had to go through that horrific time. Love you Ireland ❤️ from 🏴
We need way more folks like this dude here
So cool to find old foundations and walls in a forest, just so many questions.
Gary found out the names of the landowners and the people who lived there. Amazing what can be found in libraries. But can’t reveal any of that as gives away the location plus the video would be too long. The first cut was 50minutes!
I'm so impressed by your research into this! And the footage you've recorded. I was quite literally gripped! Well done on a brilliant film 👏 this is excellent
Thanks Sarah! Currently working on another couple of scripts 🙂
I found a little abandoned hamlet in the Slieve Bloom mountains in Laois. I would love to know more about who used to live there! Also great hiking/camping spot.
Totally enjoyed this. Well done.
Your video got out thank you for sharing I was more interested in the old house and forest very beautiful
Brilliant! very good to find your channel!
Dude, you are a savage. It takes a very strong person to do what you do, alone.
Epic video Stephen. Educational, investigative and fun. Another potential albeit later reason for Mourne Wall?? Well done. Thoroughly enjoyed. Thank you.
Yeah I think it’s a similar reason the wall was built in the Mournes. I’m guessing it was similar practice all over before modern water treatment was invented.
Excellent production, well done mate!
Am I correct in assuming that this area was one of the last in Europe to be modernised? Trying to be vague so don’t answer if you think it’ll give the game away. If I’m right, it’s an incredibly beautiful part of the country...
Loved this video. You have a new Irish-South African subscriber! ❤
Well, done, no pun intended. Those holes are dug and collared like a vertical mine shaft, so it is entirely likely that they had miners digging these test sites. Except the are no drifts stemming off from the shaft, so this is indeed very interesting, and I think you did an excellent job as well as the fellow that helped you dig for the truth about them. The footage you got of the Shafts is very good, and although the second one was a bit murky it was still plenty clear enough to see the structure of the collar. The wider shaft, judging from the closeness of the tress around it and how denser the vegetation is around it, is likely to have much more depth than what you saw because of the amount of Deadfall that can fall into an open shaft during the span of 200 years!!! And the narrower shaft is likely deeper also, because 65 feet is not deep enough to tell if the region can handle and contain a reservoir and Dam. So Good on you for your effort and it totally caught my attention because I am a regular viewer of Mine explorers here on UA-cam. I definitely will subscribe to your channel and keep my eye open for your posts because you have captured my attention for the depth you have gone to, to solve this mystery.
Very interesting video mate I love to stumble across old abandoned buildings in forest
Thanks Pete, was a fascinating find!
Found this by accident Stephen, but what a find! Fascinating stuff. Many thanks.
Thank you! 🙂
Axing the lost history and reasons for things that occured , also that these didn't have direct reticence to the community affected.
Mysterious holes. Thanks for uploading!
Thanks for watching!
Who else watched the “hole” video hoping it was going to be where the dead were thrown?
Guilty! I thought it was like a quarantine type burial pit.
It definately leads to the nighted temple of one of the Great Old Ones.
People still disappear in midland forests as there's airshafts from the older mines around that weren't filled in.
I think it's more likely the holes are extraction sites to quarry out the lime. It seems pretty odd that each lime kiln had a hole real close to it if they had nothing to do with lime. They most likely quarried the lime right there close to the kiln so they wouldn't have to transport it very far, they placed the wooden beams on the sides to prevent a cave in. It looks identical to mine shafts in the southern US.
The problem with that theory is that there’s no limestone in the ground here, it would have been transported in from the coast
@@StephenJReid Not trying to say you're wrong but I just looked at bedrock map of Ireland and almost the entire country, except for the coasts, is limestone.
I thoroughly enjoyed the video, I'm not trying to be rude or abrasive. Just sharing my thoughts and findings.
Love stuff like this
There are probably bodies on that property . It was very common for people to bury loved ones near the house .
lmfao i also enjoyed this pointless video about. . . test holes.
and i love it! like seriously, this video needs an award
Nice video ! Could u share the interactive map web ?
5:15 Well, it's a "fix-a-upper" for sure.
Fascinating video, great research !
They're crazy deep¡
Alright! Gary,you the man.😮
Is it a flooded bunker ?
I know it was a slip of the tongue, but Victoria came to the throne in 1837, not 1937 like you say at 7:02
🙈 realised too late to fix it
@@StephenJReid if you could manage a video that length without some kind of slip you wouldn't be human. It's the human touches like that which makes it special!
You had a Go Pro and a light on a string, but didn't bring a marine fishing pole? Next time you want to look down a deep hole, bring your fishing pole, they are just about perfect for this.
I love quests
Great video, Thanks
those test holes should be filled in for safety
The Woodland Gynecologist 😂😅
Did only me saw the gold bar in the deep well
I have playlists for saving really cool videos. But YOUR vid.. huh.. do I put it in HISTORY? or into ADVENTURE/EXPLORATION. pfffft.. goes into both. Well done. subscribed.
Nice video.
Fascinating
Thanks! Not my usual kind of video but I went down a rabbit hole
@@StephenJReid my money was on a well, there are apparently about 3000 in Ireland …. I’m now thinking how many of these are actually funny water test pits 🤣🤣
Interestingly there are nearly as many lime kilns as wells on the map from 1830s, had no idea they were so prevalent
I'm thinking it might be a well
And he just said they are wells
Can you take a metal detector out there? Love this kind of content! :)
I normally give you clog about your Paramo fetish but this is oustanding work Stephen.Well done. ATB Simon
Ha thanks! Paramo going away soon, average temperatures are up. So you'll have to put you Paramo spotting fetish to one side for a few months 🤪
We all wanted a skeleton clutching a treasure chest 😊
Quicklime was also used in warfare
You could have spun a fantastic yarn about the great leprechaun hunt of 1835 and how these were the remnants of the traps 🤣
Naw that happened in 1786, everyone knows that 😂
Those were not the traps, those were the places they were digging for the pots of gold, the leprechauns got people digging till their arms tired and then slipped away in the dead of night.
@@StephenJReid 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hi Stephen.
My name is Ed Young & I live in the Southern United States.
I'm 63 years old and this is the very first video of yours I've watched.
Already, I'm hooked.
Your presentation is excellent. The humor in the video is priceless with all the funny texts you include to poke fun at you.
At the same time i admire your work because you've obviously done your research and checked out your findings with reputable sources. BRAVO!
I cant wait to see more of your videos.
Keep up the great work.
- Ed
Not often UA-cam recommendations turns up a gem but this time it did
Ditto! 👍🏼
Thank you ! Spent ages on this 🙂
its becoming rare to find intelligence presented on any media platform anymore, but thankfully there are these that make the trawling worthwhile.
excrement video.. i thought might be mines, for lime..britt, living in aus.. like all britts, should.. oh,,& some irish.. we have an irish day.. & cornish hisory..moonta mines,. s.a. @@StephenJReid
Absolute. banger.
Good lad ringing the water service and putting up that make shift fence!What a terrifying end it would be if some camper fell into that hole.....
Yeah, accident waiting to happen! Very few people will likely ever be in that exact area, but I came across it so I’m sure I’ll not be the only one.
No s*** I'd be freaked out I'd be dead probably I camp a lot😮
Ya, no one camps up there. It's still contaminated.
Perfectly taken over by nature and then you add plastic wire...
@@duudsuufd there’s nothing natural about the monoculture spruce plantation that’s growing around it.
The thing I find crazy is that you can load up 200-year-old maps on a hiking app
Can thank the guys at Hiiker for that
Discussing history isn't political... it's historical. If the British government couldn't give a flying what not about the starving Irish...you are entitled to say it, without worrying about whether or not it's politcal.
Fascinating video...and some great images inside those holes 👍
Excellent 👏
I did criticise our current government, that’s definitely political. But yes historical facts shouldn’t be, but not everyone agrees on the facts
As an English man, I'm ashamed of how my ancestors abused the Irish. It was a disgusting time in our history.
@@TIMMEH19991 The land owners abused their English tenants too. As long as they had money coming in they did not care about their tenants
@@TIMMEH19991 👍👌
😹🤣 Irish history is always political.
Good you made it safer. They told us in school that with every data copy we loose a specific amount of data. This was meant for IT age, but it also applies here: By copying the map, they just omitted them and the data got lost.
Not necessarily. By that time, the old kilns were abandoned and probably not worth noting on a map. Maps exist for different reasons, too, and old kilns may, again, not have been fulfilling to the purpose of the map.
Not King William's little "hello" absolutely jumpscaring the piss out of me in the headphones while I'm home alone
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@@StephenJReidnever mind Victoria ascending the throne in 1937? It happens 😂
Omg same. Candles lit and everything. That one really had me jump up 😂
the bit at the end proves you, sir, are a good soul.
Or I’m just trying to avoid liability 😂
@@StephenJReid "Stephen made me go and I tripped over the bobbed wire and fell in the hole head first and died" ... as he tells god why he is dead. ... hahah anyone falling in them holes alone is not getting back out haha.
He’s just a testhole
@@StephenJReidyou're only reliable if you own the land.
@@livingonthetyneBarbed* wire.
Now that was a fun and interesting, and investigative story - really enjoyed that :)
Thanks! Have a couple more videos planned in a similar style. Although maybe not as in depth. This took forever to piece together
The old maps reminded me of time spent in the local reference library poring over OS maps from the 18/1900's looking for cool things to explore. I was a weird kid!
We found a couple of forgotten wells around Ballymena, one in Ballykeel and one in Galgorm, along with an overgrown ringfort in the grounds of Galgorm Castle. It's really cool that all that historical information is available online now. Back then they wouldn't even let us make photocopies of the maps so we sat in the library sketching them out by hand.
Class! Were the wells still there?
We did the same and found a mini Stonehenge near Newcastle and we did go and find it ,it we cool to see
Man what an amazing childhood!!!
So glad you secured those holes Stephen, great video once again. Old ruins in the trees are beautiful.
This is proper exploring finding gems like this to make you curious of what was once going on in these areas many years ago.
Great work by the guys doing the map research 👏
Thanks Ben! Gary was a massive help, he's going to find himself recruited again 🤣
I just spent 21 minutes looking at a video about holes. I enjoy.
Every man, ever.
@@M.Holland ngl there was also good looking sticks there so that's a bonus
@@petimees8844 I fap to this.
Man, wait until you find out about the book and movie
That was fascinating Stephen and well done for securing it so less likely for someone to be killed
Thanks Stephen!
@stephengraham6194 For "someone to be " involves something different to them falling in a hole and dying. Think about it.
@@thekeysman6760 killed just means "caused the death of" so yes, a giant gaping hole in the ground can definitely kill someone.
You're the 678th channel I've subscribed to in the past 10 years. Now I'm having to ignore 677 of them whilst I go through your very interesting back catalogue of over 400 videos. Now I have something to keep me busy for a few weeks.
Hey thanks! Most of them aren’t like this one so hopefully you enjoy a rather wide range of videos! 🙂🙂 great to have you onboard
It's say they're unlikely to be test bores for a reservoir. They would normally be drilled, and be a maximum of 12 inches diameter. I would suggest the water supply idea is asking the right lines, but not actually test bores.
@@TheMatthooks In the 1800s most wells / test holes were hand dug, therefore they were a lot larger than 12"
It's like watching Tony Robinson on Time Team, but less geophysics! Excellent stuff...
With my maths ability, probably best I avoid physics! 😂 thanks
The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became the truth.
That explains my friends house , I commented on his shed once and he said there's 6 more down in the forest , an entire village abandoned. Yea top of a mountain almost with river flowing right through it, I know a few more near me but lucky for me never found a hole like that yet or fallen in one.
I agree with the comment below me which says not very often YT recommendations comes up with a Gem but this time they did and of course I had to like n' subscribe Cheers from a new Canadian fan the Crazy Canuck on Vancouver Island
Thank you! I’d love to visit Canada sometime. I had a manager years ago who was from Vancouver
I'm honestly surprised the holes weren't full of dead animals that had accidentally fallen in.
If one had fallen in, the smell of it would keep the rest away
Not that much wildlife in coniferous plantation alas.
Me too, I was looking for animal bones.
Brilliant follow up video Stephen 👍
And thank you for doing all that research and then sharing it with us.
I love this type of history.
Thanks Ivan!
YT thought I might like this video and boy, they were right! Partly because strange holes in the ground are fascinating and partly because I'm a first-generation Irish American! Just sub'd. I hope to see some from where my dad was born and raised, western Co. Clare, backyard overlooking the ocean. But if not, all of ancient Eire is awesome. BTW, a bit of bragging... Bunratty was our family castle for a time during the 1600s. If ever there, you must partake of the medieval feast. Messy AF but totally worth it.
It's a wonder they're not full of rubbish. Where I live, old mine shafts were frequently used as rubbish dumps years ago.
possibly they are, could have been much much deeper originally. Or because they are in remote locations on private land it would be hard to transport stuff to dump in them
No one has been allowed to live near there. The residents were expelled. Now it's government-owned forest land. No one has lived there since the original people had to lose their homes.
But you said the forest service was running them, that's not private land. If the government owns something it's public land, whether or not people are allowed there.
You, Stephen, are brilliant! And to do the right thing at the end too? Brilliant x2! What a brilliant story!
Thanks Tom! 🙂 not my usual video type but too good a story to pass but
Same builder Oak Island!!
The old houses were far more interesting. Do a video about them!
Great stuff. 1: You accidentally found these holes as opposed to inventing a fantastic story to explain a well documented and explained conundrum. 2: You obtained, examined and compared existing evidence that could provide an explanation. 3 : Having completed your field survey you not only drew conclusions but also undertook a personal initiative to both secure a dangerous hazard and inform the relavent authorities.
Yeah that really was fascinating. Thanks for investigating and making this alternative set of videos upon discovering the holes. Loved this, really well done too, and looking forward to any confirmation you get. Hope they'll put up fences too. Nice work on the temp ones, much better than the ankle high trip wire 👌
Thanks! Hope I hear back soon
I think this format is working for you. I loved it. I would have one for you that would take you back to donegal - Gila Island and the history of why people went off the island. Keep going Stephen - you are beginning to snowball.
Thanks🙂 I’m not going to make every video like this as I put probably over 40hours into this, but I am going to try and incorporate a bit more history or interesting location facts or just telling stories into my other videos.
Planning to go back to Donegal Soon so Gila Island sounds very interesting!
Did you mean Gola Island? It’s on my list 🙂
@@StephenJReid i dont blame yah - thats a good bit if work. Ill just say shipwreck of whiskey or so the story goes. Over that way a bit further south too is inishmurray - easily got to from mullaghmore and it has some stories. You never know - these places could spark some ideas.
@@ShawhirHi. I'm new here and enjoying it! So regards this 'format' you mention, what are the characteristic features that are repeated in each video, please?
wow, that was exciting, no matter what it ended up being 👍! That was the first video of yours. My ancestors are Irish and unfortunately I don't know anything about them but I definitely want to go to Ireland ❤️
Glad you enjoyed it Angie! 🙂 so much history here. It’s crazy how many people emigrated from Ireland all around the world.
@@StephenJReid yes, unfortunately circumstances forced so many to move away. It must have been an unimaginably hard time for everyone, otherwise who would want to leave such a beautiful country.
I'm definitely looking forward to what you'll discover in further videos.🙂
Respect after you put a barrier around the test hole. That’s what helped make my mind up to subscribe. Great job. Interesting video.
Thanks for subscribing 🙂 glad you enjoyed the video
I actually LOVE videos like this, going back and investigating old places like this that have been forgotten over time. My Great Aunt's house actually has a well INSIDE the house. My great grandpa built the well BY HAND way back when (sometime around the early to late 1930s). The well is somewhere around 60 feet deep as it is located near the rear of the house where the house's 1st floor is technically the 2nd due to a basement. My great grandpa also lined the first 20 feet or so in brick before getting to bedrock where he didn't have to use brick anymore. The well is in what is now the laundry room of the house and is now bordered over and no longer used. But i can remember back in the late 1980s when i was like 6 or 7 years old, my great aunt would freak out anytime i got anywhere near the thing, as she was afraid it might break and id fall in...lol. I would LOVE to be able to actually reopen the well and see what its like down inside it today. I wonder if there is still water in there and if so how clean it would be with ZERO disturbance for the last 50+ years.
Got this video in my feed for some reason. I'm glad I watched it. Loved it.
I'll be checking out your other videos.
Brilliant, the mundane reason doesn't matter, just loved the story.
Thanks David 🙂
found your video about the "Algae" in the Loch. decided i'd see what the rest of your chanel's about. and i'm in love. with your content, at least. and your heart. the thing that really made me hit the subscribe button, was you putting up that temporary fence to keep other people safe at the very end.
🙂
Recommendations for further investigation:
Attach a hook to a rope and pull out limbs and debris.
Attach weight to rope and get depth measurement.
Attach magnet to rope and see if you have any luck.
Attach GoPro to rope and lower to half a foot shy of bottom.
Hopefully you now have a water hole that is free from obstructions and by dropping short you won't have soot (mulm) blacking out the visibility for best production result.
''Attach a hook to a rope and pull out limbs''
damn nightmare holes
Hey man, what's up? Would you be willing to share the rough location of those buildings like the houses and lime kilns you showed in the video? I don't have any interest in those holes. I would love to visit the houses and take some pictures since I'm a photographer. I love abandoned places like this.
Not publicly but you could always message me on Instagram…
I'm glad you contacted the government and let them know that the barbed wire was down. It would be bad for some midnight hiker to fall in one of these holes. Your documentary was excellent! Your research was very good. Professionally done! Very interesting and educational content! Thank you.
Get you a metal detector. Sweep the area and tell us what you found. If you could find the latrine/outhouse it would be like a time capsule. Old Stoneware and glass bottles are ways to date the area. Old maps you have are great way to find historical sites. But remember people move, teardown, and rebuild. 200 years is a lot of change to discover.
the algorithm worked today, glad this showed up for me
very interesting, well researched! Nice meeting you at Glencoe Mountain Resort today! Anna from Germany
Such a good video Steve! 😊 Love learning a bit of history, even if it’s less fun than a portal to the upside down. 😂
🙂😁😁😁 no vecna at the bottlm
When I saw how deep the holes were, I immediately thought that they were test holes.
Anyone who owned land back then, would’ve wanted to know the geology beneath them, if they were sitting on top, of a potential fortune.
Test holes for a reservoir, sounds a bit iffy to me. They could easily avoid getting typhoid, by boiling their drinking water and educating the public, to not drink unboiled water. And doing their toilet business, away from streams and in designated areas, as opposed to doing it all over the place. And keeping their livestock away from designated, drinking water streams.
A reservoir would’ve been an unnecessary expense that they simply couldn’t afford, the money and manpower to build. Unless the tunnels paid for themselves, with minerals or metals.
Plus digging such deep reservoirs, would be completely unnecessary. As they can be built on the surface, or by damming areas near to streams, or they could simply collect rainwater. This is Ireland we’re talking about!
They 100% could afford to build reservoirs. There are lots from that time all around the country.
Hmm. Why wouldn’t they fill the test holes when done with the test. Seems mysterious still
Good question. Maybe they partly did, could have been much deeper originally or maybe it was too much work, or maybe it was useful to leave them long term as a water supply
Imagine digging those holes by hand
I’m sure they at least used spades 🤪
An excellent video young Stephen, thankfully you got answers to all the questions. Many thanks for all your hard work.
Thanks Andy 🙂
Absolutely great video steven ! A lot of effort has clearly gone into this so well done you !! Always great work from you 💪💪
Thanks Matthew! Spent a lot more time on this than I expected. Kept thinking I’d figured it out and then new info appeared or I found something
Probably just a square well. if you want to keep people safe from falling in, someone should cover it up.
Great video, very informative. And well done for fencing it off.
Thanks Mark! Hopefully gets a proper fence soon
I saw a video PROVING DEMONS channel where he found a stone house old outside of London I think it was and a well inside the structure that was measured to 450' deep, dug by hand,,, how in the hell was that done ?????
Just phenomenal cinematography my friend, captivating and masterfully narrated!
Thank you! looks like I'm going to have to put more effort in from now on 🤣