What if Obi-Wan Died INSTEAD of Qui-Gon

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  • @someonlinedouche6992
    @someonlinedouche6992 Місяць тому +92

    It ok, everyone. We all know our Master of Wit will come back as a Force Ghost to see Qui-gon with a simple "Hello there."

    • @nobbyfirefly57
      @nobbyfirefly57 Місяць тому +6

      Wasn’t he taught how to do it by qui gon’s ghost or something?

  • @justingrillon
    @justingrillon Місяць тому +75

    What if Obi-Wan and Satine's marriage was a treaty between the mandalorians and the jedi?

  • @socialaccount0000
    @socialaccount0000 Місяць тому +54

    Obi-Wan: "M-master, you're a jedi master, surely you know force heal, r-right?"
    QuiGon: "Uhh, hmm, uhhh, the uh, the force works in mysterious ways"

    • @kuunt6065
      @kuunt6065 10 днів тому +1

      "that's not canon anymore, we aren't allowed to do it because its "barbaric" or something"

  • @rafaelc8800
    @rafaelc8800 Місяць тому +3

    Christopher Lee was just absolutely incredible

  • @jchea1764
    @jchea1764 Місяць тому +7

    By the Force.... this brings tears to my eyes
    I love how it clearly refences the movie plotlines, but it does so with characters who fell to the dark side making the right decisions..
    Dooku refusing to work with Sidious and joins Qui Gon and Anakin
    Anakin restraining himself from killing innocents out of anger under Qui Gon's tutelage
    Dooku pleaded with Trebor and knocked him out as a last resort
    Dooku working together with Mace to defeat Jango
    And culminating with all four of them facing Sidious together.
    P.S. I also absolutely love how Padme didn't come into the picture at all, Qui Gon would not have let Anakin fall into love that would one day spiral into his downfall.
    Although I do think that he definitely would have freed Anakin's mother.
    This brings tears to my eyes...

  • @mediumvibesonly7974
    @mediumvibesonly7974 Місяць тому +11

    You are a briliant story teller, your talent is unreal!!

  • @dianesinger9729
    @dianesinger9729 Місяць тому +18

    I love the final battle with Palaptine. Well done. Would be funny to see Obi-Wan's ghost watching in amusement.

  • @joshuaschreiber1914
    @joshuaschreiber1914 Місяць тому +11

    Also, for a few what if ideas: What if Anakin was visited by reformed dark-side users from the past, and they talked him out of being a sith by recounting their own experiences? Or what if Palpatine and Yoda came to an agreement and started a new order, with both doctrines included (legitimately)? What if Maul ran away during the final confrontation in the Phantom Menace?

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus Місяць тому +1

      Which reformed dark sider were you thinking of?
      Darth Revan was reformed only because he suffered severe brain damage and lost all his memories (except for his dying moments on the bridge of his flagship). The Jedi Order used the Force to transfer someone else’s memories into his brain, making him into a different person. So he’s not an ideal choice IMO.
      Going back into Legends, one option might be Ulic Q’el Droma - a Jedi Knight who, motivated solely by revenge, tried to defeat the Sith by infiltrating them. His plan backfired and he fell to the Dark Side. Ulic was redeemed only after experiencing the shock and horror of striking down and killing his own younger brother Cay, and after being permanently cut off from using the Force.

    • @ericj6636
      @ericj6636 Місяць тому

      Yoda and Palpatine wouldn't come to an alliance unless you had something catastrophically horrifying that dwarfed both of them as a universal threat.
      Like... Silentium Flood from the Forerunner Saga in Halo. Yoda and Palps would be best friends for a little while before they both got eaten and assimilated by unfathomable cosmic horrors

    • @LetsHavePun
      @LetsHavePun Місяць тому

      ​​@@ericj6636 And Sidious would still try to find a way to reap the most benefit while killing Yoda

  • @cunningsmile4166
    @cunningsmile4166 26 днів тому +4

    What is broken cannot truly be restored to what it once was. It can be mended but not as it was. Such shall be the trust between Dooku and Qui Gon

  • @gunslinger1824
    @gunslinger1824 Місяць тому +12

    That he failed a second Padawan, I highly doubt he’s going to take a third and Anakin. Failing Xanetos was devastating for him, obi-Wan dying in his arms would’ve been 1000 times worse

    • @kuunt6065
      @kuunt6065 10 днів тому

      depends whether that is canon to this story, I don't think xanetos exists in Disney canon

  • @Doobie0113
    @Doobie0113 Місяць тому +7

    13:54 I've been listening, havent quite finished yet but at this point I have to completely disagree with Anakins portrayal thus far. This version of him aligns to how we know of him in canon. I strongly beliebe he would have been more patient and emotionally disciplined had Qui-Gon been the one to train him. I doubt there would have been emotional outbursts like this. I think he would have been more pensive and calculating had Qui-Gon spent the same number of years teaching him in comparison to Obi

    • @Doobie0113
      @Doobie0113 Місяць тому

      13:54 - So nobody is shocked he just pulled it a red crimson lightsaber? 😂 Like the ultimate "red flag" you're dealing with someone at the very least associated with the Sith? Lol

    • @Matt-yg8ub
      @Matt-yg8ub Місяць тому

      Anakin’s emotional volatility in the canon is the result of the combination of 10 years a slave…. And Obi-Wan being incapable of providing a father figure for him.
      Qui Gon is exactly what Anakin needed …. And an Anakin raised by Qui Gon would be nowhere near this volatile…. If at all. Adjectives like rage and fury have absolutely no business here.

  • @shadowkion.
    @shadowkion. Місяць тому +25

    What if Batman adopted Boba Fett? 🤔

    • @seth3k
      @seth3k Місяць тому +5

      boba would just become a robin

    • @shadowkion.
      @shadowkion. Місяць тому +7

      @@seth3k But even cooler. 😎

    • @Doobie0113
      @Doobie0113 Місяць тому +3

      I like this!!!!

  • @Zakkary2ndChannelOffical
    @Zakkary2ndChannelOffical Місяць тому +11

    I've been asking for this on other people's channels for a while!!! Thanks for doing it!!

  • @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134
    @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134 3 години тому +1

    Just got back to Watching Darth Theorist Videos again , stay consistent on the channel 🔥

    • @DarthTheorist
      @DarthTheorist  3 години тому +1

      Happy to see you back bro

    • @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134
      @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134 2 години тому +1

      @@DarthTheorist
      Defo I wouldn't disappear forever , just had to take a break from The Star Wars stuff since the Acolyte got Cancelled ✅.

  • @alexander.tahtadjian
    @alexander.tahtadjian Місяць тому

    Why do I have the feeling that the mere idea of Obi-Wan dying and Qui-Gon surviving would not only give the Sith a run for their money but is also a very bad thing for everyone involved…specifically their enemies. Plus it’s nice to see an amazing ‘what if’ centered around Qui-Gon surviving because for some reason it just makes sense for Qui-Gon to survive and train Anakin because I always felt that these two are some of the strongest characters in SW history and is just so beneficial in so many ways and they would definitely conquer any challenge that’s thrown their way because they wouldn’t stand a chance against battle hardened warriors and it would fit perfectly well within the SW universe. Plus, who doesn’t love a good Anakin and Qui-Gon teaming up adventure, with Dooku tagging on along the way. Also the voice acting for Qui-Gon and Dooku was just amazing.
    I do have a few ideas for some possible what if’s:
    1) What if Rey was a Mandalorian…essentially what if Din Djarin found Rey and took her in as a Foundling.
    2) What if Ezra was a Mandalorian…something like how both his parents were Mandalorians who left Mandalore and went to start their own lives (you could still keep most of Ezra’s backstory) and potentially make Ezra and Sabine a couple (since Disney won’t, we have too…#ezrabine4ever.
    3) What if Jango Fett and/or Boba Fett Joined the Republic…I think something interesting could happen with this.
    4) What if Rey, Finn and Poe went back in time to the Clone Wars…this would make the World Between Worlds even more of an important focal point and I could also see them get along well with Anakin, Ashoka, Rex and the rest of the 501st (it would be fun to see Rey, Finn and Poe join the 501st)
    I hope these are some amazing ideas for some potential What if’s

  • @joshuaschreiber1914
    @joshuaschreiber1914 Місяць тому +3

    I like this! It has a certain gravity to it, but still has a good ending! I would love to see more videos like this - although it always pains me to see Obi-Wan be un-alived lol

  • @chasetauscher9544
    @chasetauscher9544 Місяць тому +5

    What if Kina Ha trained Anakin Skywalker?
    What if Anakin Skywalker found the Omnitrix?

  • @Doobie0113
    @Doobie0113 Місяць тому +3

    Thanks for another fun video! Looking forward to the next. Keep it up

  • @kylo-juju3796
    @kylo-juju3796 Місяць тому +3

    great history as always, it was a nice find to stumble with your channel
    but as always i must do this:
    + what if palpatine decided to return to the light side of the force??
    + what if rei existed during the events of return of the jedi??(she could be left in tatooine, instead jakuu)
    + what if the kiseijuu(parasite) existed in star wars??, showing up during the events of episode 1

  • @cunningsmile4166
    @cunningsmile4166 Місяць тому +6

    Oh if only Dooku just admitted to being blackmailed by Sidious for their prior alliance. Admitted that it was to stall yO keep Anakin out of his hands.

  • @awesomewarrioramburn9830
    @awesomewarrioramburn9830 Місяць тому +3

    May the force be with you all

  • @ericsilivestru6529
    @ericsilivestru6529 Місяць тому +5

    What if Samurai Jack trained Annakin?

  • @Doobie0113
    @Doobie0113 Місяць тому +4

    19:30 Jangon Fett having the ability to hold back and preoccupy Mace Windu from entering a battle with Sidious is like Robin trying to stop Superman from fighting Darkside while they're all standing in the same room. He's so outclassed and just on a completely different level than him that it wouldnt happen. But I digress, let me press play to continue listening and see where this goes 😂

    • @19TheFallen
      @19TheFallen Місяць тому +2

      I agree......Jango lasted......what? Twenty seconds against Mace in _Attack of the Clones_ when they fought......If *that!*

    • @19TheFallen
      @19TheFallen Місяць тому +2

      He literally "lost his head" during that fight!

    • @quadeong7453
      @quadeong7453 Місяць тому +1

      I dunno. If Cad Bane can beat Obi-Wan in a fight, I think it's possible for Jango to at least hold his own for a while.

  • @sbeiln
    @sbeiln Місяць тому +2

    6:50 hmm what is that mysterious ticking noice

  • @davidjames6671
    @davidjames6671 Місяць тому +2

    How is the voice acting so good

  • @dylanh7600
    @dylanh7600 Місяць тому +3

    I somehow doubt jango could take on two very powerful jedi for that long

  • @josephprendergast771
    @josephprendergast771 Місяць тому +3

    What if Ahsoka Tano trained Gungi in SW Rebels with Kanan and Ezra?
    What if the Arbiter was a Jedi Sentinel trained by Yaddle and then trained Anakin Skywalker?
    What if Anakin Skywalker was born a Wookie?

  • @kroskerkronger5402
    @kroskerkronger5402 Місяць тому +4

    i guess everything is good because qui gon trains anakin if qui doesnt get mental problems

  • @Edward-nf4nc
    @Edward-nf4nc Місяць тому +1

    Finally, an ending!
    You're learning. Good.
    Keep giving endings, and your videos should be good ones like this is!

    • @DarthTheorist
      @DarthTheorist  Місяць тому

      That's the plan 👀 I take constructive criticism from my viewers haha constant improvement is the key

  • @Therekyle258
    @Therekyle258 Місяць тому +6

    What if the jedi allowed attachments 4,000 thousand years ago during revan era

  • @UnrulyRantLord
    @UnrulyRantLord Місяць тому +3

    Well..... Roll credits

  • @josephmcnamee6394
    @josephmcnamee6394 Місяць тому +8

    This is really good

  • @ThePlaidman-
    @ThePlaidman- Місяць тому +2

    What If when Anakin told Padme his plan to overthrow Palpatine on Mustafar she was onboard with it? And what if Obi-Wan wasn't there to try and talk them out of it?

  • @killerhell1000
    @killerhell1000 Місяць тому +2

    You deserve way more subscribers btw

    • @DarthTheorist
      @DarthTheorist  Місяць тому

      Thank you! All in due time as they say haha

  • @davisouzaferreira7894
    @davisouzaferreira7894 Місяць тому +7

    what if the empire found project shadow and the space colony ark (sonic adventure 2 crossover)

  • @Matt-yg8ub
    @Matt-yg8ub Місяць тому +1

    Sad, but probably much better for the galaxy in general

  • @private_c
    @private_c Місяць тому +4

    What if the dragon balls existed in the star wars galaxy?

  • @wargamesmaster
    @wargamesmaster Місяць тому

    Another day of "what if a human from Earth became General Grievous?"

  • @hanoi9316
    @hanoi9316 Місяць тому +3

    What if Obi Wan was reborn with all his memories ?

  • @dustinnelson123
    @dustinnelson123 Місяць тому +2

    What if, due to a critical malfunction on the Invisible Hand, it blew up, killing everyone inside?

  • @yaboijardo2319
    @yaboijardo2319 Місяць тому +1

    Very good theory but I have to disagree on two things given this scenario, I think dooku would come clean about who he sent the credits and why given his ruse was obviously up. Especially considering how bold he was to tell obi wan the the Republic was under conrol of the sith. Secondly given the portrayals of palpatines powers I think Anakin would lose a solo battle particularly to sidious' powerfully affective and varied ways of using the force. With lighting force, scream and how effective he was at telekinesis I think he would definitely win. Though With the other Jedi to assist the odds would be in their favor I think

  • @Sworswmsdmkx
    @Sworswmsdmkx Місяць тому +3

    Qui-gon looks so confused in the thumbnail..

  • @johnnyv8918
    @johnnyv8918 Місяць тому

    What if Ahsoka became Sidious's apprentice after Darth Vader lost to Kenobi.

  • @PerfectYakon2219
    @PerfectYakon2219 Місяць тому +4

    What if Jinx from Arcane bombs the Jedi Temple and assassinate Chancellor Palpatine

    • @soularprimestudios5930
      @soularprimestudios5930 Місяць тому +2

      Sound like something she would do if I'm being honest lol....

    • @Goolby_555
      @Goolby_555 Місяць тому +1

      Who is Jinx?

    • @PerfectYakon2219
      @PerfectYakon2219 Місяць тому +1

      @@Goolby_555 Jinx from League of Legends and her own show Arcane

  • @relmofvoid8646
    @relmofvoid8646 Місяць тому +2

    what if Anakin, Ashoka and the 501st through a malfunction and bad hyper jump found the planet known as Sera (Gears of War)

  • @ajdominguez1002
    @ajdominguez1002 Місяць тому

    I have money on Padmé becoming Supreme Chancellor. Either her, or Bail Organa...

  • @vieuxreveur617
    @vieuxreveur617 Місяць тому +2

    What if Kix had been found on Earth (us), cryogenically frozen inside a separatist cruiser that crashed into the Mediterranean Sea ?

  • @Hawkeye-ve8bl
    @Hawkeye-ve8bl Місяць тому +1

    What if Qui-Gon Jinn was a Sith Lord?

  • @darcybrummett7004
    @darcybrummett7004 Місяць тому +1

    2:42 So that’s Dantooine?

  • @jorgesosa9788
    @jorgesosa9788 Місяць тому +1

    What if the one year war from Gundam takes place during the clone wars in Star wars .

  • @owenscott6159
    @owenscott6159 Місяць тому +4

    What if the x men lived on the planet coruscant instead of earth in star wars prequels movie

  • @Miguel_Santos1311
    @Miguel_Santos1311 Місяць тому

    What if Count Dooku Was The Emperor In The original trilogy?

  • @amythetransgirl3441
    @amythetransgirl3441 Місяць тому

    What if palpatine created the indominus Rex while testing the zillo beast

  • @djashovel
    @djashovel Місяць тому +2

    What if the lantern rings (not just the green ones )existed in star wars
    Or Any force user can connect to the emotional spectrum
    ( DC and star wars cross over)

  • @emperorsean1
    @emperorsean1 Місяць тому

    Well then Anikan wouldn't have fallen to the Darkside because he would've gotten the master that understood him.

  • @toomanygrenades
    @toomanygrenades 10 днів тому

    What if a Murder Hobo replaced Anakin as the chosen one.

  • @joshuamerriweather2861
    @joshuamerriweather2861 Місяць тому +1

    22:57

  • @akeemayeni156
    @akeemayeni156 Місяць тому +4

    To the voice actor think of Qui-gon's voice as lighter and not so nasally. A blend of Obi Wan but lighter.

  • @rexidexi7681
    @rexidexi7681 Місяць тому

    You know... I get that this is probably 90% AI but I enjoy these more than what ever didsney does lol.

    • @DarthTheorist
      @DarthTheorist  Місяць тому

      Huh? It’s 0 % AI my friend :) we have a spectacular team that puts these videos together

  • @Adiddy927
    @Adiddy927 4 години тому

    Qui Gon would have train and handle Anakin better then Obi Wan

  • @heatherdonnell9166
    @heatherdonnell9166 Місяць тому

    What if Anakin woke up from the matrix.

  • @Matt-yg8ub
    @Matt-yg8ub Місяць тому +3

    There’s no way Django is even slightly this good…. Both Anakin and Qui Gon are Jedi and so they won’t just crush him, but we all know Anakin could literally crush him like a tin can.
    The story took a wrong turn upon the return to Serrano… Dooku, ever the suave aristocratic elder, would not have been phased by the Jedi presents, nor would he have been so easily flustered by mace waving a data pad around.
    The Jedi show up on this world, claiming some kind of financial impropriety? And suddenly Anakin wants to kill Master Duku for supposedly betraying them because there’s some money missing and they claim he hired a bounty hunter and without asking for an explanation or giving him a chance to explain the situation. …. Anakin Just flies off the handle and attacks him, and everyone instantly believes that Duku must be guilty without any evidence of guilt simply because somebody took some money.

  • @johnnyv8918
    @johnnyv8918 Місяць тому

    So Mace Killed an unarmed man? That is not the jedi way, lol

  • @juniorsolis8916
    @juniorsolis8916 Місяць тому +1

    Nice

  • @jakobmolbek7808
    @jakobmolbek7808 Місяць тому

    What if Amy from dead Island 2 trained anakin?

  • @CakeZRqGoTR
    @CakeZRqGoTR Місяць тому

    why red

  • @tylergranger2159
    @tylergranger2159 Місяць тому

    What If Star Wars and Guerilla Games Horizon series crossover?

  • @lordofpain3476
    @lordofpain3476 Місяць тому +6

    If Obi-Wan would have died instead of Qui-Gon the galaxy would have been a much better place .

  • @marcusisgod2592
    @marcusisgod2592 Місяць тому +2

    As we know darth vader was a natural engineer and could use mechaguru or whatever so what if he used skill to create nanobots to repair his lungs and burns while also making limbs that could conduct the force to make lightning. This could relate to inquisitor baris as she used nanobots in the bomb and he may remember nanobots and their uses. He could could also conduct experiments diguised as torture to fool sidious, learning to heal wounds, make force sensitive droids/limbs and using nano bots to manipulate mididclorians to strip or enhance the force in individuals.
    What I was thinking was that he used nanobots to remove scar tissue especially around the lungs and he would be dipped in bacta or bacta would be applied this would allow him breath which means he can meditate more deeply. And for the limbs, it is possible to make material force sensitive and I was thinking he make limbs skeletal looking like in attack of the clones but would then cover the we either grafed flesh from his body or flesh made from his blood and other ingredients like perhaps kyber crystal this would make the force flow from him easier and perhaps with the sith alchemy in the limbs making his force lightning more powerful. Basically an uber vader who is perhaps stronger than full potential anakin.

  • @wolffang471
    @wolffang471 Місяць тому

    What if the jedi ended slavery?

  • @marcusisgod2592
    @marcusisgod2592 Місяць тому +1

    What if darth vader went to darthomir to learn. New suit or perhaps more unique powers.
    Resurrect talzin maybe.
    what if Vokara Che became a mentor to anakin as anakin was being treated for bullying and trauma from being a slave.
    What if anakin fell in love with luminara unduli, serra keto or bultar swan.
    What if anakin was taught by agen kolar or sasee tin or adi gallia.

  • @cecilarthurton3795
    @cecilarthurton3795 Місяць тому

    what if anaki skywalker was born female

  • @marcusisgod2592
    @marcusisgod2592 Місяць тому +1

    What if jocasta nu helped obi wan with anikan training providing texts and knowledge on the force and the original version of the code. Were obi wan can provide training about combat he does not possess knowledge of the higher mysteries which nu does such as force healing which would be useful in attack of clones. Plus it would anakin greater resources for learning and may become a consular or at least a sentinel instead of a guardian. All this could happen because of instead of sending anakin to his room where he just tinkers they send him to work in the library where nu will give him more discipline and may take a maternal interest.

  • @marcusisgod2592
    @marcusisgod2592 Місяць тому +1

    What if anakin was found by jedi belonging to another sect like corelia or those nomadic jedi who allow attachment.
    What if anakin went to dathomir in revenge of the sith to search for ways to save padme.
    What if yoda decided to swap the masters of ferus olin and anakin.
    So anakin with siri.
    Obi with ferus
    What if ahsoka and anakin crash landed on bendu's planet. Also what if darth vader joined thrawn in meeting the bendu and went on a spiritual journey back to the dust ball tatiotene.
    What if the whills turned padme into a literal force angel to save vader.

  • @SgtStarSlayer
    @SgtStarSlayer Місяць тому +1

    the prequels would be so much better and entertaining.

  • @marcusisgod2592
    @marcusisgod2592 Місяць тому +1

    What if vader healed himself (after finding out palpatine uses slavery) to overthrow sidious and reform the empire to an effective government eradicating slavery and corruption instead of palpatine empire of ego and sadistic pleasures.

  • @marcusisgod2592
    @marcusisgod2592 Місяць тому +2

    What if anakin spirit in the world between worlds saved padme by making her a force ghost or new mother if the ones. She could make him help ben solo and others saying you got to help people who are suffering from your past actions.
    What if anakin was piloting before attack of the clones and sensed ventress fall to the darkside as her master died and took his ship to the planet to investigate. Perhaps starting a romance as they are very similar in their stories.
    Also what if ahsoka taught ben skywalker as she saw him as history repeating itself.
    What if anakin was a jedi watchmen or wayfinder.
    What if anakin went with kenobi to face maul and savage instead of adi gallia.
    What if anakin fell in love with luminara or your own version of aayla secura romance.
    What if oppo rancis trained anakin.
    What if anakin met and fell in love with ventress just before the clone wars just after her masters death.
    What if anakin became a jedi sentinel like a watchmen or one of those who find younglings.
    What if evan piel became a mentor or second master to anakin.
    Or anakin became a healer either before or after his mother death could be related to his friendship with offee or alternatively what if he was trained by tra sa who taught windu and actually did not forbid attachment as shown by her relationship with tholme , they could become like a pseudo parents to anakin and train him away from the temple in azati martial arts and from trasa the living force as she is a plant lady so imagine anakin controlling plant life.

  • @UncensoredScion
    @UncensoredScion Місяць тому

    These what ifs always keep the reckless angry nature of characters like Anakin without understanding the context of why he was like that in the Prequels.
    Obi-Wan was a bad Master for Anakin, he treated him like a Brother rather than a pupil, did teach him how to control the force but not WHY to control the Force, in all honesty he wasn't ready for knighthood by the end of Phantom Menace.
    The inclusion of Qui-Gon would be a very different thing for a young Anakin, he would've tempered Anakin's hostility and fuelled it into causes that allow him to release his negativity in positive ways, leading to a more balanced and calm young man when we see him in Attack of the Clones, he'd not have had a duel with Tyrannus, he wouldn't be letting his anger get control over him. In all honesty I think he'd not be as proficient in Lightsabre combat, he'd have been more of a Force user than warrior, detaining people with mastery of the Force, crushing specific parts of enemy armour as he's gained control over it and tempered anger.
    This is just the same person in the canon timeline but with Qui-Gon where Obi-Wan would be.