I got my Zforce800ex on 12/5/22. I live in Wisconsin and have 10090mi on it with the only thing being replaced is the drive belt for piece of mind. 🤷♂️
Roland, what an excellent and totally true video this is! We bought a pair of CForce's (as you know) with help from your videos and others like it. WE LOVE OUR ATV's and yes they are Chinese! Please people, get over the stigma and RIDE!🙌🙌
I agree. Brand loyality is foolish. As Derek Jeter says, "loyalty one way is stupidity", and for sure the brands aren't loyal to us. As a consumer it's important to do your research, know what you are going to use the machine for, and find the machine that fits your needs within your budget. The truth is that as the economy gets tougher and tougher CF Moto will become more of an option to those in the market b/c they are competitively priced.
Just bought a Uforce 1000 Saturday and should be delivered in about 2 weeks. Can't wait to get out on it. I live off grid so this will be used for work, hunting, and fishing all over the woods around my cabin.
Probably your best video yet my friend 👍. We need to get together soon and go for a ride. I miss my HO EX. The guy that bought it from me has went with us on a few rides and it's still 💯. Just under 5000kms on it I believe.
We have a cforce 400 and currently have 1,100 miles on it and the water pump seal gave way. We really like this ATV and are glad that we purchased it ( it's my sun's) I'm currently looking at the c Force 500 for myself.
Oh you said the Harley word and as an ex owner of three Harleys I can say without fear that there are many parts on them and your good old chevy many electronic parts from china .To be honest I have never had a side by side but have a four day trip planed for my first outing next week with two 2024 CF Motos my wifes trail 800 and a 2024 HOEX 950 . I am glad I found your chenel l so I could find imformation about them your skid plate was a great find ,will be getting one very soon love your videos keep them coming God bless
I have a 2020 zforce 950 when they first come out. Have had no problems with mine. I was wondering, will the skid plate work on my year or is it just for the newer years? Keep up the videos and enjoy the riding. There's nothing like it...... Take care and be safe........
I have a RZR Pro XP and a Zforce 950 HO EX, I love both machines. They each have pros and cons, but overall the Zforce does everything the RZR does and at times I feel the Zforce is more comfortable.
I bought a new Polaris 500EFI mid size in 2013 it now has 6,600 miles on it and it still has the original drive belt on it. Only thing I've done is oils and tires. It's just a low budget one but it's dependable. I haul lots of fire wood in it. If I was buying another one I'd look at a CF Moto.
We have had A LOT of fun with our CFmoto 600 and our Honda pioneer 1000. Personal opinion is the CFmoto is excellent and is helping people with lower budgets hit the trails and make this an awesome sport.
Great video. You've really hit on so many points. I honestly can say I was agreeing with you the whole way. Tell it how it is and have fun on the trails. Let us know if the CFMOTO rep responds. Throughout my UA-cam research on side by Sides's I've noticed a trend. This is no disrespect to those out there who are doing this. Apparently, the large name SXS manufactures/dealerships are delivering new sxs/atv models for them to showcase and review for marketing and name brand recognition. Well, those UA-cam channels have incentives to keep making new. content. I understand the philosophy it would be fun. I mean you can't really knock on what they are doing it pays the bills and there having fun doing the content. My point is there are people out there who are using the internet and UA-cam to research on what SXS model to buy. If the content you see is tailored towards the bigger name recognition models. If the content watched has on display the newest flashy SXS with upgrades suspensions, high ground clearance lots of power then your perspective will be pushed into one of those models because that is what you think are the options. What does the user really need for what they are going to-do with it? Do they own or have access to a trailer to haul the side by side to trails systems. Do they own property that it can be used on? After they purchase the side by side will it set in their driveway. If you have to have the dealership haul the side by side to your house maybe you should get the truck and trailer first before owning a side by side. Can you financially afford a side by side? It is always going to be cheaper to rent a side by side than own one. After you own a side by side that is just where it starts. If you're a tuner and performance-oriented person you will be buying accessories. Lift kits, rims and tires snorkels, windows, doors roofs, wenches. At the dealership you can get a base model then add on the accessories and have a side by side that cost more than your vehicle. Wear a helmet with glasses and extra layers save a buck nothing beats the open air and wind blowing in your face. The conveniences of your car or truck cost a lot of money on a side by side. How many days or months of the year can they use it? What's their price range. Just because you have the credit or cash to buy one doesn't mean you should use it to buy one. Life is far more important than a toy for joy riding. There are deals out there to be had UTV hunt is a great website. Facebook Marketplace.
I agree, some creators are making videos to drive sales for the business. I get it and don't have a problem with that. We are all supposed to be intelligent enough to decide what is real or not. What makes sense. But there are folks that think they need all the latest accessories and upgrades which can really drive the cost of these toys up. A person has to have a serious conversation with themselves and ask, do I really need all this? Does my driving style warrant spending thousands on accessories and upgrades when I'm basically going to ride the rail trail only or maybe only ride 3 times a season? I understand, you get excited in what your viewing and the inner kid takes over. You want that lifestyle or super cool looking atv or side x side. It's natural to want fun flashy things. Again you have to be realistic. At the end of the day you will have just as much fun with anything you can afford.
I just bough 2 cforce 600's. one last week and one yesterday. although i haven't had a chance to get them out for a real test. they seem to be incredibly powerful and agile for their size. And all the "tests" folks keep putting these machines through trying to break them, they get my vote.
Love the way you did this video. Band bashing is not good and never will be. I like Cfmoto and Polaris and other brands. Matter affact we are planning to buy a polaris xpedition, Cfmoto zforce 950 hoex and a can am maverick sport if things work out that way in 6 to 8 months. Thank you for the videos that you do they are very enjoyable to watch. Keep doing the good work, my nabor to Northern Vermonter enjoys your work.
Well you got me beat because my Sportsman XP1000 with less than 1,000 miles has sent me home 3 times, fan quit, U joints failed and tie rod ends and almost the same thing with my Scrambler XP1000 S Fuel pump failed, U joints and tie rods. After the right upgrades they are both Awesome. I almost got a Cforce XC 800 but it was no comparison to the Scrambler XP1000 S and I'm very glad to have the Scrambler XP1000 S it's a beast.
@@FANATICALSIDERIDER I forgot to mention that even my 2017 Yamaha Kodiak 700 EPS had fuel pump failed at less than 800 miles. And the Sportsman XP1000 had to have the $1,800 front gear case replace because the ADC quit working and bushings.
I have a 22 zforce800 EX and am very pleased with the reliability of this machine. 1,300 plus miles with no issues. $10,000 less than General. Guys that don't want to take out a 2nd mortgage just to buy a toy will appreciate that!
Where are you riding that 75% of the machines on the trail are CFMoto? I ride in Colorado & I rarely see a CFMoto on the trail. I mostly see RZR’s & CanAm’s, some KRX’s & Honda Talons.
I have investigated all brands before I bought my Uforce600 and it seemed like there were more negatives on the rest compared to mine . I must say though that my Yamaha Grizzly has been a top notch machine ! Hopefully the CF will be some ware near that reliable.
I bought a Chinese excavator 2 years ago. Its made in a factory just down the road were they make a brand name machine. The only issue I see with buying these machines is you take a bigger % hit when you try to sell it, But the loss will be the same overall. Just bought a used KRX and saved over $10,000 on it. The used market is real soft now for everything.
I have a 950 HO EX and X3 Turbo RR Max and my CF Moto is every bit as good. And it has some standard features that are extra money on other brands. Plus, the 950 came with a 3 yr wrty!!
@@FANATICALSIDERIDER I would say "no". The wheelbase is shorter and doesn't have as much travel (by a small margin) but can be set up to be soft. The X3 has smart shox and can be set for comfort on the fly so it can be pretty soft which helps the rear seat passengers. But keep in mind that the X3 is double the money. But, as a trail machine, the CFM can't be beat. I've got the full skid plate pkg, tuning kit, xtra lites, and f&r glass. Also, I love the visibility out of the CFM.
Tell it like it is Brother! Love my CFMOTO 1000 XL 2024 has 1200 miles Already! Just as good as a machine but half the price as the others all of them will take you where you want to go do what you want them to do if you take care of them
You must not actually ride it hard. Ride something with some real power, real ground clearance, etc.. and you'll see the difference immediately. I'm sure they're nice and all, but not just as good.
@WolfinWolvesClothing713 I understand what you are saying. But man I'm nearly 60 and riding rough and hard doesn't appeal to me anymore. So what I have for my style does the job.
Hi! Thank you for your very helpful vids, I recently purchased 2018 Zforce 800ex and used your videos to do a complete first service so now I have starting point for regular services. I Think that one of my rear shocks isn't good, found them pretty cheap directly from China so I'm thinking of replacing both of the rear and later on both of the fronts. The problem is that I think that all what im finding is 4~cm longer (mine have the black Slow-Fast round ring and the once I found have red disc at the bottom). The question is If you have any idea if they'll fit. Searched all over and couldn't find any final answer
First I agree all the cfmoto shocks are crap. Maybe that's where they save money and we pay less for a machine. I don't know. lol As far as shock info, I know nothing about them. Sorry
I have a ‘22 Overland 1000. Love the machine, however, I was a mile from home driving 20mph and it shut down. Not sure why. Dropping off at the stealership in an hour. Fingers crossed
Just found out. Blew valve out of cylinder. No symptoms, ran fine until it happened. I do nothing but trail ride with my son. $1400 to repair, plus no idea on other issues after and no idea on parts availability. I’ve been happy with it the last 2 years, but goodbye CF Moto.
Hi , I'm asking would u buy a used cfmoto 500 2up 2017 with 18 000 km on it ?? It was driven back forth to work and than traded in for a better machine. I'm Mark from Owen Sound, Ontario
Hi Mark, wow thats a lot of kms. It depends on the condition, if it was used only for commuting. The price would seriously factor in my decision. I wouldn't pay too much for it.
I have driven and ridden with a few CF moto. While they have gotten better, they are not on par with the other big brands but the pricing has gotten very close to them. The warranty is CFmoto's big selling point, till you try to use it.
I hear that all the time online and irl. Actually a bigger channel also said he will never buy chinese junk, well now he talk good about cfmoto and segway and even drive them on his channel. The most important is to get around, so with cfmoto we save a lot of money we can use on other things.
Don’t matter where it’s made it matter’s how and what it’s made with! I have Chinese amp that is amazing it was designed here but built there with good stuff so it works better then the other Korea or American amps! It’s a JL audio Hd1200-1! Most Chinese amps are just paper weights but these are top notch with only the best stuff in them.
Great video I agree 100% just about everything is made or have parts made in China. I’d definitely buy a cfmoto if I rode 4 wheelers. I’ve got a 2020 ssr300s dirt bike and had no problems and it rips
I own a CF Moto NK 400. it's a motorcycle and I love to ride it, I use and abuse it, never let me down. I'm thinking of switching my dying I-Phone for a Huawei soon.
Had a pretty interesting debate a few years ago in Florida with this guy who was all about Made in the USA pride when we were talking about trucks...which I understand but things got interesting when I told him half of trucks today probably have parts made in China, Mexico, Taiwan etc.
The best vehicle is the one that you can afford. My best experiences had i with my old sh1tboxes that i had really long when i was poor. They brought me every where the spare parts were really cheap and i was able to fix them in a second. The new 5 series and E Class looks cool and i like the comfort but everytime something breaks i want to set em on fire.
I had a 2018 cf moto 800 ex and sold it because not enough leg room or power for me but it was a great machine, I replaced it with a 2023 x3 200 hp in 2023 and it still doesn't have enough hp, lol
promise is a strong word, Id say they remembered saying that. saw a cfmoto650 the other day, looked solid tbqh. china did have a bad rep in manufacturing for a reason and still make lots of low quality stuff. but today "made in china" has as much variation in quality between the brands and could mean anything and people give it a negative connotation.. for mostly no reason ive abused electric motors from china for 5+ years and honestly great quality and not hard to fix. and I feel that european manufactures are going to implement pay to play features and make things extremely difficult to fix and stonewall this stuff and china does not have this demographic to profit from, and are going to get good graces for this.
I was wondering if they were Chinese. I’ll pass. 1200 miles ain’t very many miles either. After 6k miles and 4 years of hard riding and it’s still running then you can compare it to the low end of better machines. I’ve personally seen Japan made atv plastic and motors hold up way past 6k miles
I have a Cforce 1000 Nordic Edition. 2023 model and i have a blast with it so fare only have 1024 km on it but nothing have broken and it have been in the cold garage the whole winter and it started up easely here the other day so i love it never any broken thing with it so fare. 😎😎 And a good video best so fare. So my pice of Chinese shit working as good as anything else. Regards from Norway.
Only thing wrong with CFMoto dealers near me is they rape you on BS dealer fees, I've priced the 450Nk street bike from $6900 to $8300 out the door for this $5399 motorcycle, I had the SS450, bought it used, it was awesome, didn't like the riding position so I opted to try the new NK version, paid the $6900 as mentioned above, nice bike, having some little issues with it but nothing that can't be sorted. I'm fortunate enough to have a Honda dealer close by that "only" charges $100 in fees plus the normal taxes. I think CFMoto is on to something but on the street bike side, be very careful on your investment, even KTM (obvious relationship with CF) isn't strong in this area. After 2 yrs of ownership on these bikes, plan on getting back 50-60% of your investment, again, it's the fees dealers are tacking on that is killing the industry.
idk, of all the different brands ect i have worked on as a dealership tech,,,,,, cf moto bottom of the barrel in allot of ways. hate the v twins, spun bearings and cross contamination of fluids.. electronic nightmares ect. service manuals and info is absolutely brutal. timing procedures completely wrong, wiring diagrams, and infact different parts ect on same model years..... its a nightmare.
2 years ago I decided t buy a Suzuki King Quad 750 and I had my girlfriend with me. I love Suzuki! While at the dealership they said what about your girlfriend and that's when I was really introduced to CF Moto they had a CF moto brand new for less than 6000.00. I had heard of them before and I thought the same thing ( Chinese shit ) Well I took it for a test drive and she did as well. I was really impressed with the way it drove and it came loaded, a winch different ways to charge the phone, very nice rims, the tires were top notch and the power steering is incredible. I do a lot of 50 inch trails and it handles it amazingly, probably better than the Suzuki since it's a little smaller - 500. I have had friends say , YOU GOT WHAT? After they take it for a spin and see everything that it came with they are not fully on board yet but are willing to give it a second look. I love my Suzuki 100% but Cf Moto get's a bad wrap for no reason!
I’d rather not support China, but CFMoto makes a good reliable machine at half the price of the competition with all the same features. Can’t beat that. I went with an 800XC. If the competition had better features or more competitive pricing, I’d go with them. Capitalism.
Cfmoto are becoming expensive theses days. The new canam 700 is price very competitively and I'm thinking of getting the pro hunting edition. I originally looked at CF Moto but when I saw the price I went Damm 😳. For the same price my choice is clear.
For what? Cfmoto offers u to the price Point I don't think you can go wrong. Obviously if you have deep pockets buy whatever you want But to me see if moto is a working man's brand. And you are 100% about Harley, Davidson and many of the big 4 Japanese brands having some of their components made in China.. There was one point where Honda had temporarily suspend production of their Honda rebel line because they're waiting for components to come from China. I own cfmoto 700 CLX 700 motorcycle. And so far I'm very happy with it. The only upgrade. I think that motorcycle needs it a thicker seat.
I think the problem with cfmoto is there is different quality of (China) parts for all vehicles and it’s not only cfmoto using the lowest quality parts Arctic cat also does were Suzuki,Honda,Kawasaki,Brp are the highest quality of Chinese parts and Polaris is mid grade parts form china the problem is over there there is no quality control so if the brand doesn’t have employees over there in the parts manufacturing and watching over the the build quality of there parts is why the low quality parts are built they all copy each others parts and no iam not brand loyal to any but having my own repair shop the only atvs and side by side I don’t work on is CF Moto and Arctic cat it’s just not worth it to me for the low quality parts and the low quality engineering and design of these units just my opinion remember you get what you pay for.
Tho I agree that everyone can ride whatever they like. However I disagree with the chinese product comment. Most things in some way have China involvement However buying something that has a few components vs a $15k all chinese product is a huge difference. Avoid supporting them where you can. Buying a 100% chinese product is a big difference from buying a harley with a few hundred dollars worth of parts.
last spring a friend of mine bought a polaris 570 atv. on our second ride of the year it caught fire n burnt on the trail. less than 200 miles on it. the following weekend he showed up to the ride with a cforce 600 touring. its never broken down yet.
I have nothing against CF moto except that it’s cheap labor that builds it, In a communist country. … I’m an American and i am willing to pay a little more to buy from an American company, built by Americans. Go Polaris!
🔴 More Cfmoto Reviews for your leisure: ua-cam.com/play/PL81Cr2jsFWsWnllM7uGoHR_a2YhBJUoFg.html
Nice lineup of vids! Keep 'em coming bro!
@@timleinart1645 Thanks
I got my Zforce800ex on 12/5/22. I live in Wisconsin and have 10090mi on it with the only thing being replaced is the drive belt for piece of mind. 🤷♂️
peoplp talk about china. yet i bet no of them thing about their tv phone grill all the stuff in the house. samsung sony etc... people be acting crazy
Any machine is good as long as it gets you out on the trail and back again with a smile on your face and good memories .
💯
Roland, what an excellent and totally true video this is! We bought a pair of CForce's (as you know) with help from your videos and others like it. WE LOVE OUR ATV's and yes they are Chinese! Please people, get over the stigma and RIDE!🙌🙌
Right on, have some fun!
I agree. Brand loyality is foolish. As Derek Jeter says, "loyalty one way is stupidity", and for sure the brands aren't loyal to us. As a consumer it's important to do your research, know what you are going to use the machine for, and find the machine that fits your needs within your budget. The truth is that as the economy gets tougher and tougher CF Moto will become more of an option to those in the market b/c they are competitively priced.
So true!
Just bought a Uforce 1000 Saturday and should be delivered in about 2 weeks. Can't wait to get out on it. I live off grid so this will be used for work, hunting, and fishing all over the woods around my cabin.
Sounds like fun! Congratulations
Just picked up a 2022 Zforce 800 trail with no miles on it. Loving it so far! Now if the snow would ever leave, I can get on those 50" trails!
Snow? Don't mention that word lol
Probably your best video yet my friend 👍. We need to get together soon and go for a ride. I miss my HO EX. The guy that bought it from me has went with us on a few rides and it's still 💯. Just under 5000kms on it I believe.
Yes we do have to get out for a ride. Don't tell me you're tired of your canned ham already. That's a nice atv. Buy a trailer
@FANATICALSIDERIDER I still love my Outlander lol. And I'm working on getting a trailer 🤞🤞🤞
i think ive told ya before brother your videos played a big part in my choice to go cfmoto and may i say thank you. im loving my 2023 HO sport
That's awesome! I'm still liking mine! Have a good day 🌞
Good video.I could have bought anyone,but went with CFmoto.I have a ton of accessories and still under budget....23 950 HO EX
Yep 😊
We have a cforce 400 and currently have 1,100 miles on it and the water pump seal gave way.
We really like this ATV and are glad that we purchased it ( it's my sun's)
I'm currently looking at the c Force 500 for myself.
Oh you said the Harley word and as an ex owner of three Harleys I can say without fear that there are many parts on them and your good old chevy many electronic parts from china .To be honest I have never had a side by side but have a four day trip planed for my first outing next week with two 2024 CF Motos my wifes trail 800 and a 2024 HOEX 950 . I am glad I found your chenel l so I could find imformation about them your skid plate was a great find ,will be getting one very soon love your videos keep them coming God bless
LOL there sure are! Enjoy your trip and thanks for watching :-)
Honda-Davison 🤔💥🫨🫨🫨😅
I have a 2020 zforce 950 when they first come out. Have had no problems with mine. I was wondering, will the skid plate work on my year or is it just for the newer years? Keep up the videos and enjoy the riding. There's nothing like it...... Take care and be safe........
I don't know for sure. You can check on the Iron Baltic website
Excellent video. Love the “forgot Yamaha sorry Don “. Lol
Glad you enjoyed it
I have a RZR Pro XP and a Zforce 950 HO EX, I love both machines. They each have pros and cons, but overall the Zforce does everything the RZR does and at times I feel the Zforce is more comfortable.
I agree they all have pros and cons. Glad you are enjoying the Zforce 950
I bought a new Polaris 500EFI mid size in 2013 it now has 6,600 miles on it and it still has the original drive belt on it. Only thing I've done is oils and tires. It's just a low budget one but it's dependable. I haul lots of fire wood in it. If I was buying another one I'd look at a CF Moto.
Amen brother! I love my cfmoto also. Thinking about buying a couple more eventually (sxs and quad)
Right on!
Love this video. I have cf moto as well. Keep the videos coming!
Thanks! Will do!
We have had A LOT of fun with our CFmoto 600 and our Honda pioneer 1000. Personal opinion is the CFmoto is excellent and is helping people with lower budgets hit the trails and make this an awesome sport.
Good to hear from someone who has other brands to compare to.
Thanks, Im picking one up Friday.
Enjoy it
Great video. You've really hit on so many points. I honestly can say I was agreeing with you the whole way. Tell it how it is and have fun on the trails. Let us know if the CFMOTO rep responds. Throughout my UA-cam research on side by Sides's I've noticed a trend. This is no disrespect to those out there who are doing this. Apparently, the large name SXS manufactures/dealerships are delivering new sxs/atv models for them to showcase and review for marketing and name brand recognition. Well, those UA-cam channels have incentives to keep making new. content. I understand the philosophy it would be fun. I mean you can't really knock on what they are doing it pays the bills and there having fun doing the content. My point is there are people out there who are using the internet and UA-cam to research on what SXS model to buy. If the content you see is tailored towards the bigger name recognition models. If the content watched has on display the newest flashy SXS with upgrades suspensions, high ground clearance lots of power then your perspective will be pushed into one of those models because that is what you think are the options. What does the user really need for what they are going to-do with it? Do they own or have access to a trailer to haul the side by side to trails systems. Do they own property that it can be used on? After they purchase the side by side will it set in their driveway. If you have to have the dealership haul the side by side to your house maybe you should get the truck and trailer first before owning a side by side. Can you financially afford a side by side? It is always going to be cheaper to rent a side by side than own one. After you own a side by side that is just where it starts. If you're a tuner and performance-oriented person you will be buying accessories. Lift kits, rims and tires snorkels, windows, doors roofs, wenches. At the dealership you can get a base model then add on the accessories and have a side by side that cost more than your vehicle. Wear a helmet with glasses and extra layers save a buck nothing beats the open air and wind blowing in your face. The conveniences of your car or truck cost a lot of money on a side by side. How many days or months of the year can they use it? What's their price range. Just because you have the credit or cash to buy one doesn't mean you should use it to buy one. Life is far more important than a toy for joy riding. There are deals out there to be had UTV hunt is a great website. Facebook Marketplace.
I agree, some creators are making videos to drive sales for the business. I get it and don't have a problem with that. We are all supposed to be intelligent enough to decide what is real or not. What makes sense.
But there are folks that think they need all the latest accessories and upgrades which can really drive the cost of these toys up. A person has to have a serious conversation with themselves and ask, do I really need all this? Does my driving style warrant spending thousands on accessories and upgrades when I'm basically going to ride the rail trail only or maybe only ride 3 times a season?
I understand, you get excited in what your viewing and the inner kid takes over. You want that lifestyle or super cool looking atv or side x side. It's natural to want fun flashy things. Again you have to be realistic. At the end of the day you will have just as much fun with anything you can afford.
@@FANATICALSIDERIDER Tottally agree
@@FANATICALSIDERIDER how does someone get in contact with the UTV company for testing and reviewing of the buggies?
I just bough 2 cforce 600's. one last week and one yesterday. although i haven't had a chance to get them out for a real test. they seem to be incredibly powerful and agile for their size. And all the "tests" folks keep putting these machines through trying to break them, they get my vote.
First Congratulations! I love the Cforce 600's You are going to have a blast, they are great atvs
Im still rocking a old 2006 Y Rhino 700, looking to up grade and CF Moto is on the short list as I can get 2 for the cost of one from the big 4.
Great video Roland! What kind of popcorn you like??
Thanks I'll take Chicago Style
Love the way you did this video. Band bashing is not good and never will be. I like Cfmoto and Polaris and other brands. Matter affact we are planning to buy a polaris xpedition, Cfmoto zforce 950 hoex and a can am maverick sport if things work out that way in 6 to 8 months. Thank you for the videos that you do they are very enjoyable to watch. Keep doing the good work, my nabor to Northern Vermonter enjoys your work.
I agree I like all the brands for the most part. Thank you for your support 🙏
Well you got me beat because my Sportsman XP1000 with less than 1,000 miles has sent me home 3 times, fan quit, U joints failed and tie rod ends and almost the same thing with my Scrambler XP1000 S Fuel pump failed, U joints and tie rods.
After the right upgrades they are both Awesome.
I almost got a Cforce XC 800 but it was no comparison to the Scrambler XP1000 S and I'm very glad to have the
Scrambler XP1000 S it's a beast.
Geesh that's alot of failure in a short time. Nobody said it was an inexpensive past time 😊
@@FANATICALSIDERIDER I forgot to mention that even my 2017 Yamaha Kodiak 700 EPS had fuel pump failed at less than 800 miles.
And the Sportsman XP1000 had to have the $1,800 front gear case replace because the ADC quit working and bushings.
I have a 22 zforce800 EX and am very pleased with the reliability of this machine. 1,300 plus miles with no issues.
$10,000 less than General. Guys that don't want to take out a 2nd mortgage just to buy a toy will appreciate that!
2nd mortgage, you got that right
Where are you riding that 75% of the machines on the trail are CFMoto?
I ride in Colorado & I rarely see a CFMoto on the trail.
I mostly see RZR’s & CanAm’s, some KRX’s & Honda Talons.
I'm in Canada. Must be getting popular where I ride.
Glad you addressed this issue. Tribalism in almost everything can get a little ridiculous.
All good. Im 1st in line in western Washington to buy the CF Moto Ibex 450MT. $1000 down got me that spot. I personally cant wait.
That's cool. I know a guy who has 3 Cfmoto street bikes. He's happy with them. Congratulations
Yeah I had a 550 UTV that literally broke down on the first day I had it…. But I also have a c force atv 660 that’s still going after 10 years..
Thats great Mark!
I have investigated all brands before I bought my Uforce600 and it seemed like there were more negatives on the rest compared to mine . I must say though that my Yamaha Grizzly has been a top notch machine ! Hopefully the CF will be some ware near that reliable.
The Grizzly has a great reputation
Haters will Hate!! I get it all the time, I have a 2022 ZForce 950 and 21 CForce 800, both great machines
Yes 😀
I bought a Chinese excavator 2 years ago. Its made in a factory just down the road were they make a brand name machine. The only issue I see with buying these machines is you take a bigger % hit when you try to sell it, But the loss will be the same overall. Just bought a used KRX and saved over $10,000 on it. The used market is real soft now for everything.
That is true.
Hi Roland thinking about getting a cf Moto Utv 600 side by side. Are they any good ?
Hello I don't have any experience with a Uforce. I've heard good stuff about them
Love our CFmoto Uforce 600 and XC800 both 2022. What's your other UA-cam channel?
Awesome! Other channel is ua-cam.com/channels/OB1qDrqCyPi0vU1cunc6Kw.html
I have a 950 HO EX and X3 Turbo RR Max and my CF Moto is every bit as good. And it has some standard features that are extra money on other brands. Plus, the 950 came with a 3 yr wrty!!
That's awesome to hear. Do you find the cfmoto suspension rougher than the X3?
@@FANATICALSIDERIDER I would say "no". The wheelbase is shorter and doesn't have as much travel (by a small margin) but can be set up to be soft. The X3 has smart shox and can be set for comfort on the fly so it can be pretty soft which helps the rear seat passengers. But keep in mind that the X3 is double the money. But, as a trail machine, the CFM can't be beat. I've got the full skid plate pkg, tuning kit, xtra lites, and f&r glass. Also, I love the visibility out of the CFM.
Tell it like it is Brother!
Love my CFMOTO 1000 XL 2024 has 1200 miles Already!
Just as good as a machine but half the price as the others all of them will take you where you want to go do what you want them to do if you take care of them
I agree 100
You must not actually ride it hard. Ride something with some real power, real ground clearance, etc.. and you'll see the difference immediately. I'm sure they're nice and all, but not just as good.
@WolfinWolvesClothing713 I understand what you are saying. But man I'm nearly 60 and riding rough and hard doesn't appeal to me anymore. So what I have for my style does the job.
Nice video Roland she have mono makes a good machine cause I know that and I beat the crap out of mine
Yes you atv is a beast. I know because I drove it or I'm following you most of the time. Lol
Hi! Thank you for your very helpful vids, I recently purchased 2018 Zforce 800ex and used your videos to do a complete first service so now I have starting point for regular services. I Think that one of my rear shocks isn't good, found them pretty cheap directly from China so I'm thinking of replacing both of the rear and later on both of the fronts. The problem is that I think that all what im finding is 4~cm longer (mine have the black Slow-Fast round ring and the once I found have red disc at the bottom). The question is If you have any idea if they'll fit. Searched all over and couldn't find any final answer
First I agree all the cfmoto shocks are crap. Maybe that's where they save money and we pay less for a machine. I don't know. lol As far as shock info, I know nothing about them. Sorry
I have a ‘22 Overland 1000. Love the machine, however, I was a mile from home driving 20mph and it shut down. Not sure why. Dropping off at the stealership in an hour.
Fingers crossed
Weird and good luck. Let me know what they find
Maybe a loose battery connection?
@@FANATICALSIDERIDER It has full power. Used the winch to put it on the trailer
@@FANATICALSIDERIDER appreciate it
Just found out. Blew valve out of cylinder. No symptoms, ran fine until it happened. I do nothing but trail ride with my son. $1400 to repair, plus no idea on other issues after and no idea on parts availability.
I’ve been happy with it the last 2 years, but goodbye CF Moto.
Hi , I'm asking would u buy a used cfmoto 500 2up 2017 with 18 000 km on it ?? It was driven back forth to work and than traded in for a better machine. I'm Mark from Owen Sound, Ontario
Hi Mark, wow thats a lot of kms. It depends on the condition, if it was used only for commuting. The price would seriously factor in my decision. I wouldn't pay too much for it.
I have driven and ridden with a few CF moto. While they have gotten better, they are not on par with the other big brands but the pricing has gotten very close to them. The warranty is CFmoto's big selling point, till you try to use it.
Explain the not on par part
Merci!
Thank you again Martial 😊 Have a great weekend!
I hear that all the time online and irl. Actually a bigger channel also said he will never buy chinese junk, well now he talk good about cfmoto and segway and even drive them on his channel. The most important is to get around, so with cfmoto we save a lot of money we can use on other things.
Lol that's funny. Yes get around out with nature and enjoy friends and family
Does your 950 have turn signals?
Yes I think it's standard in Canada
Don’t matter where it’s made it matter’s how and what it’s made with! I have Chinese amp that is amazing it was designed here but built there with good stuff so it works better then the other Korea or American amps! It’s a JL audio Hd1200-1! Most Chinese amps are just paper weights but these are top notch with only the best stuff in them.
Great video I agree 100% just about everything is made or have parts made in China. I’d definitely buy a cfmoto if I rode 4 wheelers. I’ve got a 2020 ssr300s dirt bike and had no problems and it rips
Right on!
lmao , awesome video Roland and thanks for not forgetting Yamaha 😂😂
Any time! 🤣🤣 I almost did
i bought my 800Cforce, then found your youtube channel. and id only sell it for another cfmoto
That's cool to hear! 😀
I have a cf moto I must say well make and dependable very impressive !
Agreed 👍
I own a CF Moto NK 400. it's a motorcycle and I love to ride it, I use and abuse it, never let me down. I'm thinking of switching my dying I-Phone for a Huawei soon.
LOL
Had a pretty interesting debate a few years ago in Florida with this guy who was all about Made in the USA pride when we were talking about trucks...which I understand but things got interesting when I told him half of trucks today probably have parts made in China, Mexico, Taiwan etc.
It is what it is
I have a 2022 Harley Davidson Roadglide and it had a lot of Chinese parts Saturday in trading it in for a 2025 Uforce 1000 XL
what is your other channel?
youtube.com/@GettingItDoneNorthOf7?si=ouwEIlIA_cMjvwSf
The best vehicle is the one that you can afford.
My best experiences had i with my old sh1tboxes that i had really long when i was poor.
They brought me every where the spare parts were really cheap and i was able to fix them in a second.
The new 5 series and E Class looks cool and i like the comfort but everytime something breaks i want to set em on fire.
I’m a can am guy inlaws got a 950 z force and there’s a really good chance if I get another I’ll get one of these
Cool!
@@FANATICALSIDERIDER yea I haven’t had to work on there’s yet but everything looks so much simpler to do not a ton of plastic to pull like mine
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks 😊
I had a 2018 cf moto 800 ex and sold it because not enough leg room or power for me but it was a great machine, I replaced it with a 2023 x3 200 hp in 2023 and it still doesn't have enough hp, lol
So you're pretty easy on your equipment, noted
promise is a strong word, Id say they remembered saying that.
saw a cfmoto650 the other day, looked solid tbqh.
china did have a bad rep in manufacturing for a reason and still make lots of low quality stuff.
but today "made in china" has as much variation in quality between the brands and could mean anything and people give it a negative connotation.. for mostly no reason
ive abused electric motors from china for 5+ years and honestly great quality and not hard to fix.
and I feel that european manufactures are going to implement pay to play features and make things extremely difficult to fix and stonewall this stuff
and china does not have this demographic to profit from, and are going to get good graces for this.
I agree with all you said.
I was wondering if they were Chinese. I’ll pass. 1200 miles ain’t very many miles either. After 6k miles and 4 years of hard riding and it’s still running then you can compare it to the low end of better machines. I’ve personally seen Japan made atv plastic and motors hold up way past 6k miles
I have a Cforce 1000 Nordic Edition. 2023 model and i have a blast with it so fare only have 1024 km on it but nothing have broken and it have been in the cold garage the whole winter and it started up easely here the other day so i love it never any broken thing with it so fare. 😎😎 And a good video best so fare. So my pice of Chinese shit working as good as anything else.
Regards from Norway.
Glad to hear you're having a good experience with your Cfmoto! Thanks for watching
Only thing wrong with CFMoto dealers near me is they rape you on BS dealer fees, I've priced the 450Nk street bike from $6900 to $8300 out the door for this $5399 motorcycle, I had the SS450, bought it used, it was awesome, didn't like the riding position so I opted to try the new NK version, paid the $6900 as mentioned above, nice bike, having some little issues with it but nothing that can't be sorted. I'm fortunate enough to have a Honda dealer close by that "only" charges $100 in fees plus the normal taxes. I think CFMoto is on to something but on the street bike side, be very careful on your investment, even KTM (obvious relationship with CF) isn't strong in this area. After 2 yrs of ownership on these bikes, plan on getting back 50-60% of your investment, again, it's the fees dealers are tacking on that is killing the industry.
Agreed
I love my 22 800 trail
Hell yeah!
I purchased my Polaris only because the dealer is three miles from my house and they are open Sunday
That works!
If anyone has a Ford F-150. Look on the back of your aluminum rims, in big writing " Made in China".
Mine don’t. Neither did the other 2 f-150 said China on any rims
Iam thinking of pulling the pin on a CFMoto these videos are good to watch to help my chicken ass😂
Good luck with your shopping. Let me know what you get
idk, of all the different brands ect i have worked on as a dealership tech,,,,,, cf moto bottom of the barrel in allot of ways. hate the v twins, spun bearings and cross contamination of fluids.. electronic nightmares ect. service manuals and info is absolutely brutal. timing procedures completely wrong, wiring diagrams, and infact different parts ect on same model years..... its a nightmare.
I haven't heard anything like that from dealership friends
2 years ago I decided t buy a Suzuki King Quad 750 and I had my girlfriend with me. I love Suzuki! While at the dealership they said what about your girlfriend and that's when I was really introduced to CF Moto they had a CF moto brand new for less than 6000.00. I had heard of them before and I thought the same thing ( Chinese shit ) Well I took it for a test drive and she did as well. I was really impressed with the way it drove and it came loaded, a winch different ways to charge the phone, very nice rims, the tires were top notch and the power steering is incredible. I do a lot of 50 inch trails and it handles it amazingly, probably better than the Suzuki since it's a little smaller - 500. I have had friends say , YOU GOT WHAT? After they take it for a spin and see everything that it came with they are not fully on board yet but are willing to give it a second look. I love my Suzuki 100% but Cf Moto get's a bad wrap for no reason!
Wow good story! I had a 2004 Suzuki Eiger. Awesome atv. Ya nothing wrong with Cfmoto
Yup still driving my CFMOTO junk And my Arctic Cat junk. And you know something they both been great.
LOL nothing like good reliable junk Jay! I wish I kept my Suzuki junk. lol
I’d rather not support China, but CFMoto makes a good reliable machine at half the price of the competition with all the same features. Can’t beat that. I went with an 800XC. If the competition had better features or more competitive pricing, I’d go with them. Capitalism.
Agreed
If you drive a car many parts on it came from china.sooo yea you support China. Everything comes from China and Japan
Cfmoto are becoming expensive theses days. The new canam 700 is price very competitively and I'm thinking of getting the pro hunting edition. I originally looked at CF Moto but when I saw the price I went Damm 😳. For the same price my choice is clear.
A cfotce 1000 overland is 10400 I think, that's a good price all cited out
The ones I see getting fixed most often seem to be Polaris!
That seems to be the trend
Try reselling it after you’re tired of owning it, then you’ll know why Honda should have been the choice from the beginning
Honda? I haven't heard of that brand. Where is that built?
For what? Cfmoto offers u to the price Point
I don't think you can go wrong. Obviously if you have deep pockets buy whatever you want But to me see if moto is a working man's brand. And you are 100% about Harley, Davidson and many of the big 4 Japanese brands having some of their components made in China.. There was one point where Honda had temporarily suspend production of their Honda rebel line because they're waiting for components to come from China. I own cfmoto 700 CLX 700 motorcycle. And so far I'm very happy with it. The only upgrade. I think that motorcycle needs it a thicker seat.
Great to hear, glad you chimed in. Nothing worse than a seat that feels like a wet bag of sand
China Forever Moto 🤔💥🫨🫨🫨😂
I think the problem with cfmoto is there is different quality of (China) parts for all vehicles and it’s not only cfmoto using the lowest quality parts Arctic cat also does were Suzuki,Honda,Kawasaki,Brp are the highest quality of Chinese parts and Polaris is mid grade parts form china the problem is over there there is no quality control so if the brand doesn’t have employees over there in the parts manufacturing and watching over the the build quality of there parts is why the low quality parts are built they all copy each others parts and no iam not brand loyal to any but having my own repair shop the only atvs and side by side I don’t work on is CF Moto and Arctic cat it’s just not worth it to me for the low quality parts and the low quality engineering and design of these units just my opinion remember you get what you pay for.
Tho I agree that everyone can ride whatever they like. However I disagree with the chinese product comment. Most things in some way have China involvement However buying something that has a few components vs a $15k all chinese product is a huge difference. Avoid supporting them where you can. Buying a 100% chinese product is a big difference from buying a harley with a few hundred dollars worth of parts.
last spring a friend of mine bought a polaris 570 atv. on our second ride of the year it caught fire n burnt on the trail. less than 200 miles on it. the following weekend he showed up to the ride with a cforce 600 touring. its never broken down yet.
Yikes! that's a scary thing to happen. The 600 touring is a great machine.
Here’s a shocker most of the parts for ATv’s are made in china
CF Moto isn't "junk". They're cheaper because they don't charge for all the stupid 💩 everyone else puts on their machines.
Noooo…. They’re cheaper because they are cheaper! Oh and the child sweat shops that build them keep costs down
killer 7:15
Its funny people who own Arctic Craps have zero room to insult Cfmoto ! Without question Arctic Cat is the worst product made.
I agree
2023 Z950 HO SPORT and it dont cost me $400/mo. 🤙
Right on!
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Cf moto is trash, cheap parts and poorly built
All trail machines from any brand will break. If you cant handle that buy a Hyundai and stay on the pavement.
Lol 😆
I have nothing against CF moto except that it’s cheap labor that builds it, In a communist country. … I’m an American and i am willing to pay a little more to buy from an American company, built by Americans. Go Polaris!
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I bought a ZFORCE 950 O.H. E.X. today and broke the stock "Skid-Plate" already.😂
Ouch! Ya they're junk. Better armor up and protect it. 😊
is not a bulldozer
@@charleshall6676 lol
@@charleshall6676 I guess I bought the wrong model.😁