How to: Home made Tannin concentrate for ebonising with Vinegar and Wire Wool
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- In this video I explain the process of ebonising with wire wool, how using additional tannin can help with that and how to make your own tannin concentrate cheaply.
This is to follow on from my video series where I turn and ebonies a Beech and Sapele Urn.
First, I explain about how to make your own Iron Acetate solution, (wire wool dissolved in vinegar) and demonstrate its effect on woods already high in tannin. The species I use to demonstrate is Oak.
Next, I reveal the secret ingredient that produces my tannin concentrate and show my method of producing it. The process involves boiling Indian Almond or Giant Catappa leaves in water for half an hour to force the tannins to leach out of the leaves. The liquid you're left with is a strong tannin concentrate.
After showing the making process I demonstrate the difference in ebonising a low tannin wood like Beech between using Iron acetate alone and using the tannin concentrate. The results clearly show that a stronger reaction occurs with the use of the tannin concentrate.
I hope you enjoy this video and you find it helpful and informative. I hope it will help you with your own projects if you want to have a natural ebonies finish.
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Indian almond/Catappa leaves can be purchased from various places. I purchased mine from Amazon.co.uk
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Prices vary, searching amazon or google for Almond/Catappa leaves will help you find what is best for you.
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Cool video, i did last week but i used white vinegar and wire wool and left it for 6 days. After trying it the results were not good hardly any change i am guessing the problem the white vinegar or the wire wool was not fine enough it did not desolve so i made up white vinegar and 7 tea bags and left it for 5 days. The result was amazing, one coat and it went so black i did not need to do another.
I am going to make some more useing malt vinegar and very fine wire wool and see if there is much a difference. Cheers.
Paul Emmerson what species of wood were you using? I used 000 wire wool, it didn't completely dissolve but created a strong enough solution to work. For an effective ebonising reaction you need a tannin rich wood, so it may have been down to the species. The will have helped considerably. Thanks for watching and for your comment.
Ah haha i for got about that, i will have to remember that the next time i want to ebonis some thing. Cheers matey.
I appreciate you sharing. This is a great addition to my finishes arsenal!
Jimmie at Stuart Arts you're very welcome
Very informative. I am going to try this. Thanks!
Great video, really enjoyed watching new with the tannin. I have done the 00000 steel wool, cleaning vinegar and 2 cups of coffee grounds for years. But now can’t wait to order some leaves off Amazon. I can’t recall if you hand a ratio of water to leaves, excuse me if you do, but is that usual mixture, 3 leaves to that amount of water? Or could you boil it down further to make a concentrate? Not sure that would work or not. Thanks for any comments. Take care and thanks again.
*The Iron Acetate seemed to have the best ebonising effect.*
*I want my black walnut rifle stock, to look like black wood.*
*It looks like oak right now.*
*Thanks for the great information.*
Great video - well explained and thorough. Will you be making similar videos on how stain with different colours other than black. I am thinking about pallet wood which is very white and I would like to stain with a light to medium tan shade. Thank you.
Amazing
Great tip Nathan, thanks 😀
Thank you Kevin
Does this solution have potential to catch fire?
You can try to use iron acetate. Take iron powder and add 100% acetic acid, then boil it. Or it is possible to buy it.
the river I' fish is black with tannin . wonder if that would work! great job
I bet it would do just the trick!
Excellent work, loved the videos. I wonder if dried Oak leaves in the Autumn would make a similar solution as they are also very high in tannin?
Thank you. They definitely would, I tried looking for oak leaves in the wood where I live but its mostly pine and beech.
Oak leaves would work but white oak acorns have a very high amount of tannins. It's one of the reasons they have been used for that purpose over the centuries for tanning hides. They contain much more tannin than the wood. I'd recommend trying those instead.
(6:00) - You needn't waste anything because you can always reduce down what you've got in the saucepan to whatever volume you desire, however small.
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(7:50) - The tannin itself, in the water, that brown solute, is *_"organic matter"_*
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Hi great video, Dumb question can I use normal vinegar or does it have to be distilled?
5% vinegar or what they call "Cleaning" vinegar works best but in lieu of finding that, plain white vinegar (which I believe is 4%) works too. I first washed my steel wool to remove any oils they may have added to prevent rust during shipping and storeage. I just used dish washing liquid and washed it really well, rinsed it thoroughly and squeezed out as much of the water as I could. I also tossed in a small handful of small finishing nails to hedge my bet. Plain white vinegar with the nails and steel wool, and left it to do its thing for one week. I then removed the wool and nails, strained it through a coffee filter and it works really well. It exceeded my expectations by quite a bit. I tested it on a small piece of black walnut and it actually looked better than a real piece of ebony that I had to compare it with, side by side. Ebony, also being a natural product isn't always 100% uniformly black. There are often streaks of brown throughout so walnut, while expensive is a fraction of the cost of ebony and blackens perfectly with the iron acetate. I love it.
@@dale1956ties thank you
Any other ways to extract cattapa leaves to get more concentrated tanin?
As far as I know boiling the leaves is the most effective way of extracting the tannin.
I would have simmered, with lid on, for at least an hour.
You carefully measured out the volume of water by using that jar.
Now, by not simmering with a lid on your pot, you are going to boil away about half your initial volume.
Geez ! You have no idea.