Fleet Talks: Drachinifel at Battleship New Jersey
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- This is a pre-recorded lecture as part of the Battleship New Jersey and Independence Seaport Museum's Fleet Talks Lecture Series. For future dates:
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This was great fun to do!
If you are correct Drach then it makes Holland look even more unlucky than people think he was
It was great fun to Listen!
All of your run in with ryan on video have been great i also watch your channel and ryans fluently and always enjoy and LEARN alot!!!!! Keep these coming
Question for you Drach. In the event of a US/UK war in the early 30’s, would the Japanese have allied with the UK?
The man is in the comments
The most ambitious crossover event in history.
That would be Tom Scott (the red tshirt guy) and Tom Scott (the older one) having a chat on the USS Texas
Marvel and DC should take notes 😅
@@jermasus haha, I just came here from watching both Scotts! Well, the English Scott video was a meme but still!
Not quite because mark felton isn’t in the picture
Forgotten Weapons and Chieftans Hatch challenge this 😉
I said it last time, Drach & Ryan, the buddy-cop show we all need. And here we are. Feature length movie!!
LOL, good luck pitching "Museum Ship Confidential" to a cable channel. On second thought, given the amount of questionable content out there I can see it actually getting green-lit!
You know, I actually found the discussion about the chairs not only amusing, but also strangely fascinating! Who would have thought so much went into something so simple as a mass produced chair
EDIT: Also as a Brit I want to expand on Drachs point of the British use of Hydrocarbons as weapons during 1940. Mass use of Hydrocarbons to burn stuff was not just limited to throwing 55 gallon drums at tanks using Catapults! It also included massive use of emplaced flamethrowers on the beaches the British even *thought* might be at risk. As in you land here, and ARGH FIRE.
So as a Brit I will say to all you Americans... thanks for all the oil we put to incendiary purposes in that desperate year!!!!
Also there was a thing called a flame fougasse. Basically 4-6 55 gallon drums half full of just about any oil product with some sort of explosives in the bottom. Bury them in a bank or tall verge or whatever with the openings aimed at the same point and you have a single shot anti vehicle flamethrower. Nasty.
My favorite British thing in this overall context is the Livens Large Gallery Flame Projector. For me, talk of emplaced flamethrowers without mention of it is like talking about the Earth's atmosphere without mentioning Argon. Sure it was very complicated and barely ever used because of this fact, but damn it is awesome... and utterly terrifying.
(Argon only makes up about 1% of the atmosphere, so not much, but at the same time after nitrogen and oxygen, argon is the third largest contributor to its composition... just in case anyone was wondering precisely what I meant there.)
In WWII one of the reasons why the Japanese would resort to banzai attacks even when ordered not to was that with American firepower and the Japanese refusal to surrender, it was either Death by Maschine Gun or Death by Liquid Fire. Many opted for the former. If nothing else at least you died in the open air and not some dark, stinking bunker.
@@TomFynn interestingly some analysis indicates that the increased use of flamethrowers (either vehicle or backpack mounted) actually increased tendency of even the Japanese to surrender. If you look at the later battles such as Iwo Jima and Okinawa where flamethrowers were more common. proportionally more prisoners were taken than in earlier battles such as Saipan.
@@princeoftonga Facing a flame thrower, I would certainly throw in the towel. But with the mindset of the Japanese soldier at the time, my guess would be that most would opt for the banzai charge. And most of those who opted to surrender would be killed by their own superiors, long before they were killed by suspicions and jaded Marines. But I have no hard data on this. Which made me think that I have never seen any study (out there, surely, but out of reach for the amateur) which details what the average Japanese grunt at the time thought. Gung-ho, Tenno Heika Banzai? I am only following orders? We gotta get out of here if it's the last thing that we'll ever do? I simply have no idea.
Wasn't really that interested in ships when I started watching this channel. Just was impressed that a UA-cam community gets along and collaborates for a common goal of getting this history recorded before it's lost. Please keep posting these lectures!
Being able to pin the point of the explosion down to seconds is great detective work. So Hood got hit at the moment, when she started to turn to port. Incredible!
Talk about unlucky
The result of having a reasonably open mind.
@@Knight6831 unlucky indeed. The ship was still fast enough to have the full bow wave exposing the weak spot at the wave hollow below the armour where Bismarcks shell hit.
The Japanese claimed that they scuttled Kirishima, I suppose that the 22-24 16” super heavy AP projectiles had little to do with the the old girl shacking up with Davey Jones quicker than she could have gone down with all the sea chests open! Being of similar design as HMS Hood, it is amazing that any magazine didn’t go off like Hood! Washington’s shells were capable of through and through penetration of the Kirishima‘a armor!
That 90 minutes passed by WAY too quickly! I imagine it seemed even shorter to those lucky enough to be there. Thank you both for not only this presentation, but for all you do for maritime history.
As someone who was lucky enough to be there, yes. It did. It felt more like 40 than 90
Yea it seemed pretty quick. I was a bit disappointed Trent Hone wasn’t there… but honestly Drach was the main reason for being there.
This kind of stuff is really historic. Very much so.
So cool to see you two together!
seeing the americans not getting drachs british humour is so good.
Thankyou BBNJ and Drachinifel for providing quality content so consistently.
This was a great video!!
There's something odd about watching a discussion about incidents in the 1940's with the presenter using 1980ish technology (the whiteboard), while watching on a digital platform in the 2020's. Once past the oddness of it all, It was a great presentation. I always enjoy watching collaborations between Drachinifel and Ryan/Battleship New Jersey.
Two naval history fanatics together. Bliss.
LOL "Abandon ship, women and curators first!" 😆 But I can totally imagine Ryan and Drach as co-hosts of a museum ship version of This Old House!
That was a mighty fine 90 minutes. Drach has an encyclopedic mind. Ryan is engaging. It was a worthwhile pairing.
I love watching people turn passions into lively hoods. Thank you both.
I'd never have imagined a talk about a chair could possibly so interesting and entertaining.
When i was kid in 1965, i was a passenger on USNS General Maurice Rose. The chairs in the mess hall had a cord with a cork attached. There were fixtures aka holes in the deck the cork would go into during heavy seas. We sailed through an Atlantic gale so got to see them in use!
Obviously, IronBru is a health drink since Drach was the only speaker to not get sick and cancel.
😂, indeed
IronBru kills all known germs.... but that doesn't mean it's good for you!
IrnBru*
I was there. It was a very interesting lecture.
Cool, when was this recorded?
@@spacemax8896 February 11, 2023
Your were there when Hood was sunk at the Battle of the Denmark Strait? Were you on Prinz Eugen or on Prince of Wales?
@@adamnouiguer3430 Yes, I was there
Oh would you look at that, the two people most responsible for my love of naval history in one video! Lets goooooooooo! What I would give to get to be there in person
Drach's presentation was great as his talks tend to be, and the bit about the chairs was genuinely fascinating and cool. I love that kind of stuff.
Drach and Ryan are good people.👍
Was great to experience in person, appreciate the New Jersey's hospitality!
Awesome collaboration. My two favorite presenters!
What a great event and collaboration. The time really flew by. Thanks for letting us poor YT fans experience this. 🙏🏻
Either this is going to be the most awesome historical lecture or the sickest industrial techno track is about to drop... ❤
The reason I started to learn about naval history. I don't know what it is but something in the voice of Drach just pulls you in.
❤❤❤ And thank you for the great content!
Off topic but; Drach wouldn't look out of place standing under an X-Wing in the background of a Star Wars scene. What type of clothes are these (Vest and trousers) ? Great video Guys !
Battlegroup Ryan and Force D finally joined forces
great outfit @drach! functional, stylish, and unique! you sir are a man of action as well as knowledge. also, you appear ready to service an x-wing at a hidden rebel base. I'd hire you for that for sure
True gentleman and scholars. Thank you!!
That was a great intro, Ryan. You're becoming a really good public speaker.
Mr Drachnifel is so cool
The crossover we've all been waiting for. Drach has been my go to source for all things naval for years now.
This was outstanding. LOVE seeing these collabs and lectures and Q&A.
The museum shop should sell copies of the nuclear key like the titan museum does. You could use the money to put in an elevator to the curator's lunch room.
I suggested that to Ryan last time i saw him - he said they were looking for an engraver
Didn't he say the keys seem to be universal in one video?
Handing out the launch keys to in service tomahawks may end badly... I've seen under siege 😂
@@benbrummitt7953 Too late. Keys can be copied from pictures. It's why TSA keys are terrible.
Fantastic explanation of what happened to the Hood. Thku
I feel like the funniest part was Drach's Iceland story. I feel like we need to hear more stories like that
2 of the world's leading authorities on the topic. No less. Astonishing !
two of my favorite Naval Guys.....Cheers....from Orlando, Florida, Paul
That's something that gets me. Everyone calls the bombs from the high level bombers as armor piercing bombs. They were not bombs. They were 16-inch armor piercing shells from the Nagato. They were adapted to get dropped from an aircraft. It could have been why they didn't work as well.
Man, Drach and the channel have come a long way. Great job and a lot of fun.
My favourite naval historians together !!.
Completely out of nowhere but to the guy struggling to speak in a normal rhythm at 23:20. You did great❤.
Yay! It's Drach!
So Tuesday was the collaboration with drach and the unauthorized history 9f the pacific war, today drach and Ryan, outstanding.
Drac dressed up like a star wars fighter pilot 😅
This is like being provided with a Vegas buffet of naval history bliss.
Drachinifel is awsome !!
As a youtuber I am just blow away, that Drach can just do a presentation without any Aids for so long :)
My two favorite anime characters
Drach should bring one of those chairs home.
Ryan you have a natural ease and humor in front of a live audience that is fun to see. It comes through somewhat in your videos too.
This was a great talk. Even if it didn't go according to plan, everything was great. From getting Hood's sinking down to seconds and somehow making talking about chairs interesting is impressive. Also the questions are all very intriguing and some of the audience's points were also nice food for thought. Overall very engaging talk.
Great collaboration fellas
This was an excellent lecture. I can listen / watch Ryan & Drachinifel for hours like this! Please, next one though, a roving mic for the audience questions - some I could not really pick up (Or the responder repeats the question).
Fantastic discussions!!!
This was such a pleasure to watch! Thank you Drach and the BNJ team!
My favourite line was "if the chairs were German they would have been serialised" and that got me thinking if the Kriegsmarine had a chair like that they would have given it a German military compound name eg
Starkerlangerseekriegsstuhl
(strong longevity sea war chair)
😅
Drach, straight from the Rebel Base in "Empire Strikes Back" 😄
What's with the outfit, dude?
Nah, just teasing. I love both you guys and your channels!
Brilliant 👍‼️
The battleship bros are back!
Drach.. an excellent historian, a very nice speaking voice, a fashion pariah..
This made my day! The content on this channel just keeps getting better and better!
Very enjoyable; I'm sorry I missed this. My only suggestion is for purposes of the recording to either repeat the questions into the mic or maybe during editing add them as text to the screen. I'd love to be able to hear what made Ryan laugh so during the chair presentation.
Great video! Really enjoyed the talk, and thank you so much for making sure the audio is as good as it is! It's a common issue with talks like this on YT.
Great stuff, thanks lads.
I from the Postal Service after 34 years of service. I was involved with a number of maintenance programs at the national level and my travels took me into many USPS facilities. I seem to recall seeing those aluminum framed chairs in several larger post offices and I wonder if they came out of a GSA warehouse somewhere as ships were decommissioned.
I've always thought the shock the British navy and public felt over the loss of the Hood was in some part due to the British media's constant use of the phrase "the mighty Hood". Call a ship " mighty" enough times in print and in the newsreels and people start to believe it. That also contributes to the myth of German superiority. Any ship that can sink the mighty Hood must be special indeed. The believers in all things German will remind us that it took most of the British fleet to put the Bismarck down.
Hood was the perfect combination of speed, firepower and looks
Oh boy did I miss Drach a second time st my beloved NJ!!!😮
These various collabs are great!
0:24 Drach looking at the pen with confusion is so funny to me lol.
Great video. Well done Gentlemen!
Your work on Hood’s sinking is both riveting (no pun) and personally very significant to me as my dad was on Suffolk during this action. Very much looking forward to reading the paper and seeing the final presentation.
2 GIANTS..2 Legends. 2 guys who like boats!
Very interesting. My question is: How many cupholders does the battleship have, and how does this compare with other countries' capital ships. I know Japanese battleships had just enough cupholders and no more, but the Kriegsmarine was famous for having too few, sometimes none at all. The Royal Navy, being consummate professionals, would not want their beer to spill in the middle of a fight, so I'm sure the cupholder issue was properly addressed in the design stage. But what about the French and Italians?
I think I am missing something here. Ted Briggs said she was turning and her rudder is at 20 degrees on the wreck. The momentary heel against the direction of the turn is, as I understand it almost impercetible. Hood responded quickly to the rudder so we are looking at a mere few seconds in time. So Ted was feeling the heel towards Bismarck and the hull is now deeper in the sea and less exposed than before. What did I miss?
Really enjoyed that!
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, those who have manoeuvred large ships know that when the rudder is put over there is an initial inward heeling moment and then the ships starts heeling outward as she turns.
Women and curators first? You're effectively the captain, so you have to go down with the ship.
I visited New Jersey last summer and sadly probably didn't get to see Ryan. Didn't know Olympia was on the other side of the river lol. Gonna have to go again at some point!!
Very nice presentation Drach!
My two favourite ship experts together.
Drach is everywhere 🎉
Did you try to like hike to the ship? I cant get over the outfit lol awesome presentation though. Your knowledge, grasp of history and engineering is top
Abandon Ship Women and Curators first! A great end to a very interesting discussion about many different things.
Omg I would've paid handsomely to see this. Damn. I'm literally 10 min from the ship
You two could be brothers!
Not only a rudder pushes the prop stream of water to the side that’s deflected, it also pulls the stern in the opposite direction in a similar way an airplane wing creates lift.
like all engineers I worked with, even Drach seems to be needing special remedial drawing lessons? Unfortunately, it looks like he's been taking his from David's route maps on Cruising the Cut? Regardless, Thanks to Drach and Ryan for this very interesting session.
Was great seeing this in person!
I thought that HMS Hood had 4 steering positions the Conning Tower, the lower Conn which below it, the engine room and auxiliary position in the steering compartment. The steering engine is IIRC immediately against the bulkhead with the fore most 4" HA magazine and runs via the port shaft alley to the steering compartment.
Most enjoyable!
Love it. Thanks
Drach, the US battleship fleet was stationed in San Pedro, it's not San Diego. Massive access to oil in the Los Angeles area.
Sweet!
Very Nice!
38:40 I have one of those chairs since I was 14, came out of a renovated school. A great investment, didn't cost me 1350 though lol
I would love to lecture on New Jersey. However, I do not have a beard. Is that permissible?
@55:14, I'm sure Drach meant Lexington at Coral Sea. Yorktown was NOT scuttled at Midway
My former landlord knew the man that manufactured the "Navy chair", PA manufacturing ....Also they were made under contract by other plants, CF Moore's Co Inc.(Philadelphia, PA).