My final ranking of the games played in this stream is below, let me know if you agree or disagree; if you feel some games were unfairly judged and deserve to be elsewhere in the list. 1. Skater (DECO Cassette) (Data East) 2. Diet Go Go (Data East) 3. Go Go! Mile Smile (Fuuki) 4. Monster Farm Jump (Tecmo) 5. Kono e Tako (Mitchell) 6. Funky Jet (Korea, prototype?) (Mitchell) 7. Jumping Cross (SNK) 8. Omega (Nihon System) 9. Check Man (Zilec) 10. Crash Race / Lethal Crash Race (Video System) 11. Kabuki Z (Kaneko) 12. Diet Family (Semicom) 13. Battlantis (Konami) 14. Submarine (Sigma)
I kept hearing you say "Amiga" and was confused. Took me a minute to realize Brits must pronounce Omega that way. We say it like egg. Omegga. I do a podcast with a Brit and get confused often.
Konami in the late 80's (mainly 87~88) didn't have great games (felt like they're more focus on NES/Famicom than in arcades during that time), Battlantis is not particularly great (a jump would've made it better), would say Black Panther ⁅developed by Coreland Tech. (Banpresto)⁆ is Konami's worst (feels unfinished/rushed). Mitchell has a lot of decent/great stuff too (do like Gamshara, Pomping World/Buster Brothers, & Sankokushi). Before Mitchell got into games, Mitchell was formed on Feb 1, 1960 by Roy Ozaki's father, Mitchell was originally a ship/boat building company. Roy Ozaki ⁅尾崎ロイ⁆ & his partner Koichi Niida ⁅仁井田耕一⁆ took over the company after Ozaki's father passed on & started vending/selling PCBs in the late 80's. Roy Ozaki & Koichi Niida were former employees of Data East & TAD [Game Machine May 1, 1987 Issue 307] prior to taking over Mitchell. Mitchell went dormant on Nov 12, 2012 ceasing all (game) development. Diet Family feels like those Plug & Play games, plays (a bit) better than Battlantis though (it still not saying much). Submarine from Sigma, would rather play Sauro from Tecfri, NES/Famicom: Sqoon, & Mariner/800 Fathoms from Amenip. Submarine had potential, but felt it's like missing something. I find Jumping Cross is decent, the characters (the motor-cyclists) look like beavers (with the bucked teeth & black dot nose). I find Check Man alright (I prefer the Japanese set, the slide left & right buttons are pre-setted), Check Man was developed by Zenitone for Zilec & Jaleco, one of the designers of Check Man (Peter Hughes) was director of Zenitone. (The Stampers doesn't seem to be involved with Check Man, as most of the staffs on the game are from Zenitone). Zilec-Zenitone is a joint venture of Zenitone & Zilec. Zenitone was established on Jan 2, 1974, nothing is known with Zenitone's history, but it is likely they made gambling & Pong-type games early on & they even made a Space Invaders kit Super Invaders in 1979(?)/1980(?) ⁅sold by Microsec⁆, then Zenitone made original games for Microsec & Zilec Electronics; Invaders Revenge for Microsec; Check Man, Wizz Quiz, Merlins Money Maze, & Cash Quiz for Zilec. Zenitone then made more gambling games, & Zenitone closed their doors on May 9, 2000. I find Skater from Data East good, also speaking of the name entry screen (were you draw the name & stuff), the (undumped) Japanese version of La-Pa-Pa/Rootin' Tootin' also allows the player to draw on the high score screen (that was remove in the export set); ua-cam.com/video/QmDkG_cpZTQ/v-deo.html . Missed the stream though (didn't know to be fair).
Ahh interesting if it's confirmed that Check Man was mostly developed by Zenitone then, it has such a UK feel to it, and was widely popular (as unofficial clones) on our 8-bits. Would have been nice if it was an early Stamper game as it does feel like the kind of thing they would have done, but if it's not the case, it's not the case. It's a shame so many of those DECO cassettes are still hoarded by the Game Preservation Society, but it really seems nothing can be done about that situation, would love to see that version of La-Pa-Pa. I'll probably do a few more episodes like this, then when we get to about 50 games, try to sort the smaller lists into a large one, and see if I feel differently about the games covered.
@mamehaze Zenitone's a UK company (failed to mention that). I would love to see those DECO Cassette games saved one day, especially that version of La-Pa-Pa (too bad these games are being hoarded off, these games will be worthless one day if they die /or become beyond repair). The Ranking stream does have the Jewel or Junk feel to it (but a revised version of it), I would like to see more if it too (& catch the streams too).
@@ozzyguy100 ahh, I found a US address when I looked up Zenitone last time, and a UK one for Zilec, but yes, it would make sense if they were both UK based. "ZILEC ELECTRONICS EXODIS LTD. UNIT 2, 146 HIGH STREET, BURTON ON TRENT STAFFS. ENGLAND" (which is 20 mins by car away from where I live)
Also Jewel of Junk requires a little more audience participation, which can work on UA-cam, but as I don't really have the same level of audience on Twitch right now isn't as easy to do there, so I stuck to my own rankings with this one.
@@mamehaze Zenitone (Check Man's developer) were based in Sir Frank Whittle Road, Derby, UK. It's likely that Zenitone did had a N.American arm at one point (it's also likely the other Zenitone (the US based one) might be an unrelated company to Zenitone). Understandable that Jewel of Junk only works on UA-cam (really needs the audience participation), as there's not that many folks on Twitch.
Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Stream Starts
00:00:25 - Intro
00:01:22 - Monster Farm Jump (Japan)
00:14:20 - Battlantis (program code G)
00:24:15 - Omega
00:35:28 - Kabuki-Z (World)
00:45:20 - Kono e Tako (10021 Ver.A)
00:55:06 - Diet Go Go (Europe v1.1 1992.09.26, set 1)
01:07:07 - Funky Jet (Korea, prototype?)
01:15:31 - Diet Family
01:23:00 - Lethal Crash Race / Bakuretsu Crash Race (set 1)
01:32:10 - Submarine (Sigma)
01:40:20 - Jumping Cross (set 1)
01:49:46 - Susume! Mile Smile / Go Go! Mile Smile (newer)
01:58:47 - Check Man
02:03:12 - Check Man (Japan)
02:09:00 - Skater (DECO Cassette) (Japan)
02:16:09 - Outro
My final ranking of the games played in this stream is below, let me know if you agree or disagree; if you feel some games were unfairly judged and deserve to be elsewhere in the list.
1. Skater (DECO Cassette) (Data East)
2. Diet Go Go (Data East)
3. Go Go! Mile Smile (Fuuki)
4. Monster Farm Jump (Tecmo)
5. Kono e Tako (Mitchell)
6. Funky Jet (Korea, prototype?) (Mitchell)
7. Jumping Cross (SNK)
8. Omega (Nihon System)
9. Check Man (Zilec)
10. Crash Race / Lethal Crash Race (Video System)
11. Kabuki Z (Kaneko)
12. Diet Family (Semicom)
13. Battlantis (Konami)
14. Submarine (Sigma)
I kept hearing you say "Amiga" and was confused. Took me a minute to realize Brits must pronounce Omega that way. We say it like egg. Omegga. I do a podcast with a Brit and get confused often.
I've heard it pronounced both ways, I don't claim my way to be the most correct one
@@mamehaze The language originated there, so you probably can lay claim.
Konami in the late 80's (mainly 87~88) didn't have great games (felt like they're more focus on NES/Famicom than in arcades during that time), Battlantis is not particularly great (a jump would've made it better), would say Black Panther ⁅developed by Coreland Tech. (Banpresto)⁆ is Konami's worst (feels unfinished/rushed).
Mitchell has a lot of decent/great stuff too (do like Gamshara, Pomping World/Buster Brothers, & Sankokushi). Before Mitchell got into games, Mitchell was formed on Feb 1, 1960 by Roy Ozaki's father, Mitchell was originally a ship/boat building company. Roy Ozaki ⁅尾崎ロイ⁆ & his partner Koichi Niida ⁅仁井田耕一⁆ took over the company after Ozaki's father passed on & started vending/selling PCBs in the late 80's. Roy Ozaki & Koichi Niida were former employees of Data East & TAD [Game Machine May 1, 1987 Issue 307] prior to taking over Mitchell. Mitchell went dormant on Nov 12, 2012 ceasing all (game) development.
Diet Family feels like those Plug & Play games, plays (a bit) better than Battlantis though (it still not saying much).
Submarine from Sigma, would rather play Sauro from Tecfri, NES/Famicom: Sqoon, & Mariner/800 Fathoms from Amenip. Submarine had potential, but felt it's like missing something.
I find Jumping Cross is decent, the characters (the motor-cyclists) look like beavers (with the bucked teeth & black dot nose).
I find Check Man alright (I prefer the Japanese set, the slide left & right buttons are pre-setted), Check Man was developed by Zenitone for Zilec & Jaleco, one of the designers of Check Man (Peter Hughes) was director of Zenitone. (The Stampers doesn't seem to be involved with Check Man, as most of the staffs on the game are from Zenitone). Zilec-Zenitone is a joint venture of Zenitone & Zilec. Zenitone was established on Jan 2, 1974, nothing is known with Zenitone's history, but it is likely they made gambling & Pong-type games early on & they even made a Space Invaders kit Super Invaders in 1979(?)/1980(?) ⁅sold by Microsec⁆, then Zenitone made original games for Microsec & Zilec Electronics; Invaders Revenge for Microsec; Check Man, Wizz Quiz, Merlins Money Maze, & Cash Quiz for Zilec. Zenitone then made more gambling games, & Zenitone closed their doors on May 9, 2000.
I find Skater from Data East good, also speaking of the name entry screen (were you draw the name & stuff), the (undumped) Japanese version of La-Pa-Pa/Rootin' Tootin' also allows the player to draw on the high score screen (that was remove in the export set); ua-cam.com/video/QmDkG_cpZTQ/v-deo.html .
Missed the stream though (didn't know to be fair).
Ahh interesting if it's confirmed that Check Man was mostly developed by Zenitone then, it has such a UK feel to it, and was widely popular (as unofficial clones) on our 8-bits. Would have been nice if it was an early Stamper game as it does feel like the kind of thing they would have done, but if it's not the case, it's not the case.
It's a shame so many of those DECO cassettes are still hoarded by the Game Preservation Society, but it really seems nothing can be done about that situation, would love to see that version of La-Pa-Pa.
I'll probably do a few more episodes like this, then when we get to about 50 games, try to sort the smaller lists into a large one, and see if I feel differently about the games covered.
@mamehaze Zenitone's a UK company (failed to mention that).
I would love to see those DECO Cassette games saved one day, especially that version of La-Pa-Pa (too bad these games are being hoarded off, these games will be worthless one day if they die /or become beyond repair).
The Ranking stream does have the Jewel or Junk feel to it (but a revised version of it), I would like to see more if it too (& catch the streams too).
@@ozzyguy100 ahh, I found a US address when I looked up Zenitone last time, and a UK one for Zilec, but yes, it would make sense if they were both UK based.
"ZILEC ELECTRONICS EXODIS LTD. UNIT 2, 146 HIGH STREET, BURTON ON TRENT STAFFS. ENGLAND"
(which is 20 mins by car away from where I live)
Also Jewel of Junk requires a little more audience participation, which can work on UA-cam, but as I don't really have the same level of audience on Twitch right now isn't as easy to do there, so I stuck to my own rankings with this one.
@@mamehaze Zenitone (Check Man's developer) were based in Sir Frank Whittle Road, Derby, UK. It's likely that Zenitone did had a N.American arm at one point (it's also likely the other Zenitone (the US based one) might be an unrelated company to Zenitone).
Understandable that Jewel of Junk only works on UA-cam (really needs the audience participation), as there's not that many folks on Twitch.