I appreciate content creators that are surfacing a lot of the issues with both trends and long-standing practices. But, I'm always hesitant to 100% trust Future Proof videos because the writers seem to color all natural ingredients as "good" and others bad. This is not a healthy push. In addition to questioning unnatural ingredients, I wish you delved into the science of "natural" products too. On the other hand, I appreciate the realistic conclusion of "everything's doo doo right now, and we don't really have any recommendations at the moment," it's these kinds of moments that keep bringing me back to your vids.
This has always been my issue with them. Natural doesn't mean good and that association is usually used by the corporations they're supposedly criticizing.
Weren't they the same people who said "natural ingredients" labeling in food was a big red flag? so why not scrutinize non food products when they claim "natural" as well?
Hey there! We totally get where you're coming from and we'll work harder to present our ideas in a more well-rounded way moving forward. Our goal isn't to paint any and every natural item as the best while excluding plenty of perfectly good products, it's to present all sides of a coin to our audience and give you the tools to make a decision based on what will work best for you. If we didn't mention these claims against the ingredients in these products we wouldn't be telling the full story, but we 100% agree that we should be devoting more time towards questioning the claims of these natural products - because that's important too! Maybe we should devote a full video to the subject, and also dive into how/why the "natural" brands always tend to be the most devoted towards environmental action 👀 If that interests you, let us know!
@@FutureProofTV that would actually be a good video idea! For a channel that focuses on encouraging the viewer a lot of thought on what we consume, sometimes advertisement language is tough. I didn't mean to be a Debbie downer but we just looking after y'all.
One warning about Native (and likely any natural deodorant that uses coconut oil): I personally found it worked well at keeping me stink-free, HOWEVER it left huge oil stains on my shirts that were difficult (and in one case, impossible) to remove.
I had the same issue. Ended up being less sustainable for me because it shortened lifespan of my clothes. Not to mention I had to wash my clothes more often than before, even cardigans, bc the pits would be getting thick residue smelling like BO and perfume :\
Laundry: a paste made of baking soda and hydrogen-peroxide really does work for armpit-stains. Also, boiling water can help melt-away deodorant stuck in fabric. Also, putting laundry in the dryer with fabric softener can trap stains in the fabric. But if your wash comes out satisfactorily clean, then by all means use fabric softener liberally.
I had the same experience, not as good and ruined my clothes with waxy residue. Then you also look into the '"Natural" ingredients in a bit more detail and you wonder if they are any better/safer. Some of the "Natural" ingredients are still highly processed: Ozokerite Triglycerides Magnesium Hydroxide Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride On their website they selectively display the ingredients they want and make it bit hard to find all the ingredients. Bit dishonest..
Might just be me, but personally I more often notice people who used way too much perfume or deodorant and smell like a perfume shop than people with bad body odor on public transit. Also the worst is probably the combination of intense body odor with the smell of deodorant added on top. In the end, washing is usually the better alternative to deodorant.
i release fresh poop in a ziplock bag at the LA anime expo just to add a little more manly funk to the smell cocktail there, its been 6y now and nobody has noticed so far :D
As a skincare junkie, I came across a dermatologist that recommended using the ordinary’ glycolic acid 2-3 times a week and honestly it works and I don’t feel the need for any deodorant.
I do exactly this, TO one too! That or benzoyl peroxide wash underarms and your sweat just doesn't smell, it kills the bacteria that causes the odour :)
Lactic or mandelic acid works well too,particularly for sensitive skin as they’re less harsh AHAs. Lol the trick is to remember to moisturise and sunprotect any areas you use AHAs on as any area you exfoliate can obviously become more sensitive and you don’t want to disrupt the skin barrier or microbiome too much or you open yourself up to a brand new range of possible problems
I do the same. It's great on the scalp too. I do it just because it is better for my budget, not because of any concerns with deodorants or antiperspirants.
I use glycolic acid every day with a deodorant brand called Lume. Its not the best smelling but its the only thing that works for me. For some reason I developed bad BO when I was around 22. Idk if this is related but it coincides with the time I started my first job and started consuming caffeine.
I clicked on the video to just post the joke about deodorants being unnecessary: "If you don't think deodorant is necessary, go to a gaming convention and get back to me after" lol
Been there, also the card games tournaments, but my friend says that is most likely because they don’t shower everyday or wash their hair often and or are using too warmer clothes that makes them sweat more.
In summary: "People don't actually mind the smell of body odor and deodorants have stuff in them which may be harmful even though there's no hard data showing it's harmful but I'm going to strongly suggest it's harmful." I'll keep wearing my deodorant, thanks. I also brush my teeth, take regular showers, and avoid colognes. I hate strong odors from others and wish to return the kindness by not smelling foul. Only reason I don't also use an antiperspirant is that it flakes off all over my clothing and stains my shirts over time. Nasty stuff.
i'm a tawas user. tawas is weaker than deodorant, but it's natural and actually lightens the skin, instead of darkening it like deodorant does. also it's cheaper at least in my region
I beg to differ I mind body odor ! Especially if you’re an individual that’s not really healthy meaning : drinking, drug use, poor diet , poor hygiene. My neighbor doesn’t believe in deodorant and she has a drinking problem where she has been fired due to her smell.
So just to confirm. There are no studies that say antiperspirant or deodorant are dangerous for our health but we should still pay $12 a stick to the same company for a "natural" alternative?
my pov is that even if all these products contain a safe amount of regulated chemicals as they claim, but if you adds up these chemicals in all the products you use, the result might be scary. so this video is just suggesting to go natural whenever possible. keep in mind that "products" are only there to serve a "purpose", not necessarily a "benefit", especially towards your health.
I think the emphasis is that companies making and marketing natural ingredients usually care about the plastic waste, environmental issues, and better/ethical sourcing of their materials.
Not sure if others have mentioned it, but regardless if it name brand or natural, those of us with sensitive skin, finding any product that doesn't irritate the skin is a win. For me it is the Dove Men +Care Clean Comfort 48hr Deodorant that works.
A great point! Having an array of deaderants and antipersperants on the market is what is best. From the comments, everyone’s expereince is different. I have dermatitis and every few weeks I get a flare of dyshidrotic eczema and it appears mostly on my hands and underarms. Putting ANYTHING on my underarms is a no go during that time, and I am still shopping around for a deoderant that works during my flare ups. And as for my hands it is even worse it anyone is familiar with this type of eczema.
Same old spice completely destroyed my arm puts it was so bad the skin around my arm pits started to dry and almost looked like eczema. I use dove men +care and never had that happened since then. The best deodorant I used was women’s secret although it’s marketed to women it works wonders for me.
I think that going not deodorant is a privilege, because there’s a lot of factors that affect your body odor, the weather where you live, the work that you do, the diet that you have and even genetics. I’ve moved from my almost all year cold town where you can re use your clothes a lot of days because you almost don’t sweat, had to move to a city where you can guess what someone ate by their smell in the metro, and have to ventilate my bras after use cuz they are so wet with sweat 😫 it’s the worst, my point is, i you are able to go deodorant free, without smelling and affecting the ones around you, I’m truly glad, but a lot of people need it, me included. But at least try to buy a more likely reciclable package, the aluminum spray bottles nope cuz they a lot of places don’t aceppt them, bar in plastic is so hard to separate te partes and cleaning it to recicle it so nop either, the least bad that I could find is the roll on, since you can take the ball of with a knife and easily clean the inside so you can recycle most of it, I know that plastic free package would be ideal but that haven’t spread to latinoamérica and most lower income countries.
Yeah, I'm the same. I sweat a LOT. I have to use prescription anti-perspirant. Obviously, that means I can't go and buy reusable packaged, natural deodorants.
Target (or at least the ones in my area) has a deodorant that uses replaceable cartridges. There’s still some plastic going to waste when putting in a new cartridge, but it’s a lot less than what buying a new stick would produce.
using deodorant is a privilege as most of the world doesn’t, and honestly you can make your own from items found in the kitchen, all you need is cornstarch and baking soda
I stopped using antiperspirant deodorants back in middle school. When switched to just deodorants, I too experienced the 6-month deodorant fail. However, I found the best deodorant that has not failed me for the past 10 years… Plain old baking soda. Works amazing and it’s cheap!
I’m beginning to wonder if there’s been a push to “do things the way our ancestors did” or to go back to “the way it used to be”. For example, not adopting deodorants/antiperspirants, discontinue wearing shoes that feel like they crumple your toes, or even practicing mewing instead of getting braces or wearing retainers. It’s a clash between what is accepted in the modern age and what _might_ be what was considered normal back then. Hard to say since everything seems to have some kind of twist or gimmick that you either believe or don’t.
@@VAULT-TEC_INC. Certainly. Some things just outright sucked the way they used to be done. But on the flip side, there's bound to be things that were better than they are now.
I think it's because now information is readily available to everyone as opposed to even 50 years ago. People are starting to realize how many things in our lives that we were taught were just standard health practices were just a load of BS made up by advertisers to sell a product no one actually needs. Case in point: deodorant. It is considered to be a standard part of good hygiene, which is defined as "conditions or practices conducive to maintaining health and preventing disease, especially through cleanliness." So much so that I, as an educator, have been asked to teach students the importance of using deodorant for good health! The science is unclear as to whether or not deodorant is actively bad for your health, but it's pretty clear that it isn't actually a benefit. It was just made up to sell a product no one wanted. The only reason people "need" it now is because you'd be a social outcast without it. I know this part first hand because no matter how much deodorant I put on, I smell within 30 minutes of putting it on. I used to to coat it on every 30 minutes because no one would believe I was "practicing good hygiene" because I smelled A LITTLE of sweat. Then my pits started breaking out CONSTANTLY and I was spending so much money on different deodorants. I eventually just stopped. Now I put on 2 swipes of some natural deodorant just to appease my wife and to seem "normal," and then I don't worry about it the rest of the day.
@@VAULT-TEC_INC. some things. Particularly actual medical practices. But a lot of products that we use to promote health were just BS sold to us by clever marketing campaigns.
I started using a deodorant called Nuud about three years ago. It’s all natural, and packaged in a bioplastic (sugarcane) tube. Once your body is used to it you only have to apply it every few days. I’ve gone up to a week and a half with no smell whatsoever, and I sweat a lot. I highly recommend it, though as you’ve said, everybody is different.
@@benjalucian1515 It isn't actually that expensive after you consider that you don't need to use that much. I'm now just use 2 small pea sized amounts once per week. And international shipping is free.
My friend recommended a salt stick deodorant to me a while back and it was amazing. Super cheap too, about $6, if I recall correctly. And it lasts for ages. It was weird to get used to sweating, as I can be almost obsessive about my hygiene, but it worked well. Until I dropped it and shattered it.
@@good-tn9sr One thing to take into consideration is how long lasting the product is. Just because the initial cost might be higher, it could even out long term. Not saying it always is the case but just a tip for any purchase in general :D
This may sound weird, but I just spray my underarms with a couple sprits of 70% alcohol disinfectant you can get at a dollar store every morning before I get dressed. It works for me so far and I’ve been doing it for years. It kills bacteria without leaving any artificial scent.
My fave deodorant alternative - glycolic acid. Put some on a cotton pad and wipe your pits with it. It doesn’t stop you from sweating but it keeps the stink away. Even during/after high-intensity cardio sessions, it kept me stink-free.
it's on my list already, it's a AHA right edit: oh, it's a tiktok trend... tho it is a good exfoliator.. (it's still on my list for exfoliation but not that much on deo)
@@abbiejoyguabna5320 yeah I just read that it was a TikTok trend, but I first started using glycolic acid in early 2019. I can’t remember where I first heard of it, but it was definitely not TikTok!
@@iseemelanie I started using it a few years ago too when I heard it's good for preventing in-grown hairs and lightening dark underarms, but then I had a thought that since it's an acid maybe it will prevent BO... and it did! It's cool that others figured this out too.
"It's good for you because it's natural". So, how about the all natural ingredients of a fresh king cobra injection? Snake venom is 100% natural, so it has to be healthy, right? I always hate it when people go for something that is natural purely because it's natural 😅
Just like the "natural" pesticide made from chrysanthemum flowers, that was used on all sorts of produce, including "organic" (since it's "natural", of course) will likely be taken off of the market due to health concerns.
I get what you’re trying to say but it seems like you’re ignoring a lot of what was said to make a quick point. It’s not like he claimed these deodorant and antiperspirants are bad, because “look at the ingredient list! It has *_chemicals,_* chemicals with big names that I can’t pronounce which means they’re *baaaad* “, he laid out clear reasons for why you might not want to use these products and all available evidence of specific ingredient’s potential harmful effects. If you want to challenge the legitimacy of that evidence or the validity of any of the arguments he actually made, that would be great, but acting like his argument was just “chemical bad” is obviously just a straw-man.
@@Acidlib While it was not my intention to make it sound like that, it does indeed sound like that. I do agree with you. I should've worded it better 😅
Crystal deodorant is worth checking out. It’s basically a stick of pure potassium alum. It’s debated whether or not it could have similar negative effects to aluminum in anti-perspirants though
It can work well for some people for a while, but my wife found it was good for a week and then ... stink. Everyone's body-chemistry is slightly different!
@@shinnam Is it really so? I'm asking because I never used alum before, and from the many reviews I read they say it's very light, like it's acceptable only if you are sedentary, if you move or sweat it's like nothing.
When I hit puberty as a teen, the BO hit so suddenly that it was sooo embarrassing to go to school that day and stink up 3rd period. Then there's my wife who only wears deodorant when she has an intense sweaty day. Most days she doesn't ever need it. And if she's a little musty, she just bathes and it's gone (doesn't help with mine)
I've tried a few natural deodrants and it was a big no from me- two of them gave me really horrible red scaly rashes in my underarms, one just didn't work, another left residue on my clothes, the rock one was okay- but then apparently that's high in aluminium anyway so I went back to commercial and I like it- it works well, it's available easily and I don't have a reaction to it. I feel like I don't smell any more now than when I was trying to stick to natural. I would like to use a plastic free packaging, but I also can't deal with the wasted $ of trying various failed options and probably getting a surprise rash or two
Natural alternatives, greenwashing, and ‘clean beauty’- Lol yay for marketing. Parabens are one of a few commonly targeted compounds by advertising. And whilst the price of the product will go up, sometimes the safety actually goes down, as whilst parabens are effective as preservatives and prevent bacteria, mold etc that is harmful from growing in the product and making you sick, the alternatives don’t have the same demonstrated effectiveness.
Claire: Try a small wedge of a fresh lemon instead, it works. Dermatologists recommend using The Ordinary’ glycolic acid 2-3 times a week and honestly it works, no need for any deodorant. Also, a benzoyl peroxide wash underarms and your sweat just doesn't smell, it kills the bacteria that causes the odor.
From my experience, natural deodorant is all about smell. If you are somebody who sweats a lot, you either need to see a doctor or use a deodorant with chemicals in it, which aren't exactly bad, just like natural deodorant isn't exactly good. Everybody is different and that's one reason why there are so many different selections out there when it comes to hygiene.
AyySorento: Claire: Try a small wedge of a fresh lemon instead, it works. Dermatologists recommend using The Ordinary’ glycolic acid 2-3 times a week and honestly it works, no need for any deodorant. Also, a benzoyl peroxide wash underarms and your sweat just doesn't smell, it kills the bacteria that causes the odor.
sweating a lot is actually a sign of high cardiovascular fitness because to be able to run fast for a long time you need very good thermoregulation, and to have very good thermoregulation you need to be able to rapidly start/stop sweating due to small changes in body temperature
I encourage everyone to look into PROBIOTIC deodorants. The idea is that flat out using antibacterial ingredients kills not only the bad but also the good bacteria allowing the bad bacteria to proliferate faster! Using a product with probiotics recolonizes the skin with beneficial bacteria that eats the bad and cuts down on stink. I personally struggle with acne and no amount of antibacterial face wash has ever gotten rid of it for me. But since using a facial moisturizer with probiotics (i.e. introducing beneficial bacteria to my face after completely destroying all bacteria via an antibacterial face wash) I have noticed a major improvement in my skin and the intensity of acne I used to get. Using products that benefit the microbiome instead of wiping it out completely thus allowing bad bacteria to thrive is such a game changer!
Occasionally using AHAs appears to have a similar affect theoretically in reverse to ‘probiotics’. Removing the fuel source of harmful bacteria (well provided you sunprotect and moisturise the area too lol). ‘Probiotics’ in cosmetics don’t actually contain live bacteria. They more contain tiny shreds and strands, similar to ‘peptides’ which were #trending a few years ago, and likely having the same effect of providing pretty good skin hydration. But unlike the live bacteria and yeast that is shown as effective when ingested, it doesn’t have the same live ingredients or evidence base as probiotics in the gut....If you have any regularly occurring type of acne/pimples etc that’s causing you concern it’s always worth investing in testing and diagnosing the underlying cause as it’s unfortunately an umbrella term where the type is definitely going to effect the treatment approach.
@@lunar686 i actually buy my moisturizer from someone on etsy who incorporates probiotics from fermented rice and kimchi preservatives as well as something called probiotic lysate. now im no expert in how or if her product works but as my original comment said i have seen an improvement in my skin since using it vs when i used a cosmetic brand moisturizer from neutrogena that simply moisturized. i have read that some probiotic deodorants cannot really establish beneficial bacteria to the armpits because the type of bacteria they include is native to the gut, lactobacillus, so that was interesting to read. but i do stand by the belief that recolonizing whatever cleansed area with beneficial bacteria is better than simply wiping out all bacteria with an antibacterial cleanser, allowing bad bacteria to flourish because they are more prevalent in the environment than the "healthy" kind and therefore recolonize quicker making us dirty, smelly, etc. we ultimately dont understand beneficial bacteria because weve only just begun to categorize and study it, but i think its something that will become more prevalent as time passes. as far as acne goes, it seems to be related to inflammation from my diet. so its not going to disappear any time soon but im glad to have found the moisturizer that has helped like it has so far.
@@debutchi 💯! The rates of atopic dermatitis have gone through the roof since the pandemic. Hopefully a lot more people are coming more aware of the role of Microbiota in the health of their skin. Yeah, unfortunately the research isn’t that great, particularly when dealing with cosmetics, and we’re probably still a long way off understanding it. I have however noticed that people take Microbiome to far more seriously when I explained that atopic dermatitis is technically a topical staph infection. Whilst obviously not a contagious kind, and not the only contributing factor (eg, filligran deficiency), I think understanding that we have good and bad bacteria always present on our skin helps people realise that eliminating a lot of bad bacteria allows even worse bacteria to thrive. I am a little bit worried that the clean/natural/beauty Trend may inadvertently be exposing people to allergens and complications, But until the science catches up, we are kind of flying blind. Hopefully more people interested will mean a chance for a profit and then hopefully the science will catch up lmao. But it’s definitely the way forward if we can figure it out. I even came across a paper the other day showing how the treatment of the dermatitis features associated with psoriasis actually reduced symptoms of alexithymia of all things. So balancing it out may even have beneficial effects on mental health, particularly with the recognition of dementia as an autoimmune phenomena. Not to overstate the benefits lol, but embracing simple health concepts like taking care of the microbiota, even if it ends up outdated like ‘germ theory’ still saved lives without us having a clue why at the time
@@lunar686 I feel like dermatitis skyrocketing during the pandemic was largely stress related, not knowing whether you’ll keep a job or even survive to see another day seems like a massive stressor. But it all goes back to inflammation of some kind wouldn’t you say? My acne always surfaces after eating high amounts of sugar, which is caused by the inflammation the sugar causes in my body if I’m understanding it correctly. And what do you mean about natural beauty trends causing complications? That’s also really funny that you mentioned dermatitis and alexithymia because I actually struggle with both. Though the alexithymia i more tied to my autism, I have always struggled with seb derm but I think that’s more so tied to me diet (again inflammation). Care to link the study?
I have very sensitive armpits, and it took years of trying every deodorant and natural deodorant option available to me to find what works for me reliably and remarkably: sprayable hand sanitizer. Literally everything else causes a rash eventually (except Myro and Lume, but Myro was too goopy for me and Lume is just expensive and needs to be shipped). Within a few weeks of using the spray sanitizer I found that I needed it less because I wasn’t as stinky naturally! There are even some natural spray deodorant options coming out and if you look at the ingredients they’re the same as (much cheaper) sprayable hand sanitizer
Maybe an aha like mandelic could work if used occasionally with moisturiser and sunprotection. Sanitiser works, but it can work a little too well and kill everything, with people who use it regularly developing atopic dermatitis (which has drastically increased since the pandemic). Natural and moisture-wicking fabrics can also help.
When the COVID pandemic hit, and I started working from home, I thought it the perfect opportunity to ditch the anti-perspirant and see what happened, because I'd always found it uncomfortable and wondered if it was actually making me sweat more than if I didn't wear it. Three years later, I still don't use anti-perspirant or deodorant, and I can honestly say that I've only ever smelled my own BO a couple of times during that period when I've got particularly sweaty on a hot summer day. I tried a bunch of other lifestyle changes during the pandemic, too, including switching to cooking with as many organic wholefoods as possible, and I have a feeling a cleaner, more "natural" diet probably has some (positive) effect on the smell of what little BO I seem to have now. Don't be afraid to ditch these products if you're even a little bit skeptical about them, as I was.
Me too, I stopped during pandemic and I'm still not using deodorant. I do use perfume and I have natural deodorant for hot day, but other days I'm fine. I don't eat meat, eat lots of veggies, take care of your hormones.
I’ve been using salt crystal deodorant for 8 years now and I find it works great for around 24 hours when used immediately after showering. That said I’m not a very “smelly” person to begin with. The product itself also lasts for many, many, MANY uses. I’ve spent less than $15 on deodorant in the last 8 years.
I have been using WILD deodorant for a few months now and I am pleased to say that I've never smelled better in my life. They are refillable and the refils are compostable! They also have a lot of great smelling scents. It's a great alternative if you want to try natural deodorant and if you are worried about smelling weird. They are also B-certified!
I use this too. Actually, I heard about it from one of Levi and Leah's videos so I was surprised they don't use it anymore. Or maybe they do, but not while they're on the road?
Louise Geens: B-Corp includes Nestle and is not as respectable anymore. Try a small wedge of a fresh lemon instead, it works. Dermatologists recommend using The Ordinary’ glycolic acid 2-3 times a week and honestly it works, no need for any deodorant. Also, a benzoyl peroxide wash underarms and your sweat just doesn't smell, it kills the bacteria that causes the odor.
stopped using deodorant about 7 years ago. mainly for a reason that my sweating was so bad due to my social anxiety that I decided that if none of the deodorants and antiperspirants didn't help me, then I might just stop using it. somehow I became more confident because of that and now I almost don't sweat in the majority of situations. when I do, I don;t care that much, it is in fact natural.
I’m quite surprised basic salt crystal deodorants aren’t more popular. They work extremely well and are very cheap, it’s just a big salt crystal that you get wet before applying and it keeps all the bad bacteria at bay. 8 years now with zero complaints.
@@Napalm_CandyIf you're switching from an antiperspirant there is a two week purge where you stink horribly of BO. I can't speak to if you just switched from deodorant though.
I've been using the same $14 salt block for about 18 months and it's been doing its job. I switched because of plastic and budgeting though not because of chemicals.
I think the relevant question with respect to both deodorants and anti-perspirants is whether or not the molecules are small enough that they can be absorbed through the skin, not whether their ingredients are "natural" in the sense of being something we could safely eat. Unfortunately, this video does not explore whether the ingredients or their fragments can permeate the skin, so this natural deodorant thing could, itself, be consumer exploitation. Anyway, the video title is fairly misleading in that it suggests some of these key question are answered. Alas, they aren't.
I also use Native. I like it, and while it's expensive it does seem to last a long time. I bought three tubes prior to the container redesign and I'm only maybe a quarter of the way through the second one. What does bother me though is how strongly Native leverages their "plastic free" marketing without actually committing to be plastic free. They also sell their deodorant in plastic and push to sell you a tiny plastic travel deodorant that you don't need. As well, their shampoos are all in plastic, as are most of their other products. (Besides bar soap which most brands sell in cardboard anyway.) So their product is good, I like that it comes in a plastic free form, but I wish they'd either commit more fully or stop marketing on it so heavily.
I’d be interested to hear a future proof episode on Lume, a deodorant product that was advertised a ton on UA-cam last year. Supposedly it would alter the bacterial makeup to be not stinky? Or smth like that.
@@KellyS_77 I’m pretty sure it’s for everything. One of the ads told a sob story about a kid being asked to leave class because of his stinky feet. Anyways, so what lol? It’s a related topic.
I've used it, it's quite an effective product. It legitimately does what it says it will do. It's expensive (at least as far as my budget goes) so I can't justify regularly purchasing it.
I think I read that it makes it so the bacteria can't eat or something? I'm not sure, but that's what I use and it's what I've found works best for me, and it doesn't leave gross deodorant residue on my shirts like most stuff does.
I'm glad this video didn't end in a solution. There's a lot of env't, social, & psychological issues around body odor and perspiration. Looking forward to the new channel!
As a stripper, I wear deodorant to work and reapply throughout my shift and really like the native deodorants which are pricey but smell amazing. Also the arm and hammer clear ones are excellent, cheap, and if you don’t have sensitive skin I recommend it for preventing ingrown hairs (glide over any areas after shaving 🪒 but don’t get it on the 🐱). I don’t really know why it works but I literally don’t get any ingrown hairs if I do this and I shave often . But for everyday, I really don’t bother applying deodorant! Not worth it or necessary 😅
I now use an alum (not aluminum!) salt/crystal(?) deodorant. It’s just a solid hard salt rock that I just wet a bit and then roll around. It is odorless, doesn’t block sweat but it keeps me without smells for over 24hrs even in mid summer. The actual product also last me months for each piece.
To be non toxicly stink free; shower normally, dry off, but before you get dressed, put 1/2 teaspoon baking soda on a wet washcloth and rub in lightly to spread around the size of your palm. I use an empty spice shaker. Then, just rub into each armpit like you would when washing. Should be fairly wet, but doesn’t need to be dripping. That’s it. The bicarbonate (baking soda) will inhibit the growth of odor causing bacteria. Works for me much better than the chemical stuff. Can’t beat the price, and it very mild on skin.
This is such an awesome video. I have only used crystals for ages. Never would go back. Please can you make a video on how to buy cruelty free hygiene products.
I've been using a natural and dirt cheap deodorant for years now: milk of magnesia / magnesium hydroxide. It is mainly sold as an laxative but in fact it's just a weak chemical base. See, the reason why we stink is because the bacteria eat our sweat and poop organic acid. Organic acids are volatile and so they smell strongly (vinegar is an organic acid). Acids react with base forming water and salt. The salt is non-volatile so it doesn't smell. Any base would work but it has to be a weak base (for example, sodium hydroxide would work, but it would hurt like hell and convert your skin and fat into soap. I think sodium bicarbonate should also work but before you try it, use it very diluted in water and increase concentration as needed). In Brazil, where I live, milk of magnesia is easy to find and cheaper than deodorant. It is sold in blue bottles as laxatives, but I just spill some onto my hands and rub on my armpits. Been doing it for about 8 years now :) By the way, the acid that bacteria produce is the reason why we get dental cavity and why we have fluoride in our water. Our tooth is made of hydroxyapatite, the acid reacts with the "hydroxi" part and thus our tooth rots away. The fluoride replaces the "hydroxi" and thus our tooth becomes fluorapatite.
I try to avoid using deodorant because I think it’s bad for the skin and health. There are my simple rules what help me to stay odorless. I shave my armpits (hair absorbs smell, no hair- less smell). I have some rubbing alcohol with me and sometimes when it’s needed I wipe the armpits with a paper towel soaked in alcohol when in the bathroom. Also try to avoid running when not at the gym, be dressed accordingly, lose layers when needed, keep ac a little cooler when possible. Of course shower after the gym. Definitely there are exceptions when deodorant is needed, however most of the days we can avoid it. I also use from less to no soap when shower. My body naturally smells less, what I can’t say about the past when I used a lot of products. More products - more problems.
Shaving leaves less hair and less surface area for bacteria to grow. You can purchase pre-packaged alcohol wipes. The medical community uses them a lot.
Loving your body as it is doesn't require plastic, pollution, the wasteful medical industry. A shower every other day (more or less as needed) is a kindness to others, and a worthwhile use of resources.
Having been a person who sweats a lot without exertion, I always used antiperspirant. Ok, aluminum aside, a greater percentage of the active ingredient works better. BUT then, they changed that active to something slightly different (and guessing cheaper!) and then didn't work well at all. Finding the old aluminum ingredient is harder since the change about ten years ago. Some have TOO much and were very irritating to my skin. YMMV. Scent is an issue as well. Dr Dray dermatologist YT channel gives good hints. Here's some, including mine: Use an antibacterial soap - NOT Irish Spring - a salicylic acid or benzoyl peroxide face wash - like Cerave Renewing SA Cleanser. Soap up your pits and avoid your private parts (it's a bit drying) except maybe the groin skin folds. Leave it on for a couple of minutes to kill the bacteria lingering in the pores and rinse. Putting deodorant over lingering bacteria will never work as well as really clean pits. Wear natural fabrics - cotton, viscose, rayon, Tencel, and linen that breathe and absorb some sweat. Do not wear plastic i.e. polyester, nylon, acrylic that do not absorb sweat and smell worse when you do sweat. Shower at night and put on your deodorant/antiperspirant on DRY skin. Then, let it dry! Works better when it seeps into the pores to prevent sweat and odor tomorrow - while you're presumably sweating less at night! You can add more in the morning. Wash your clothes in warm or hot water. I sure do not trust new detergents to work well in cold water. Use Borax/Washing Soda/Baking Soda with your detergent and white vinegar in your rinse to get rid of ALL odors and bacteria. Wash Twice for those really nasty, sweaty clothes. Borax needs hot water to dissolve completely. I use scent free Avon On-Duty 24 Hours Unscented and Almay Sensitive Skin roll-on or clear gel. Avon has an older ingredient: Aluminum Chlorohydrate 20.7% Anhydrous. Almay: Aluminum Sesquichlorohydrate 25%. I don't recall the new ingredient but it will be in most all other OTC dept. store products. I used Mitchum roll-on 20% Aluminum Zirconium (I think) forever. It worked until they changed!
so i worked for a company that was selling beauty products and all that natural, non-animal tested kinda thing but they were betting mostly on the idea that higher prices could mean for some people better quality, but in reality they were producing stuff for 1,5-5€ and selling it for 35€. So i would stick with my 2,69€ deodorant because the 13€ one might be the same with added marketing on top
Humble brand deodorant is my go-to deodorant right now. I switched to their vegan formula after finding out that I'm allergic to beeswax :/ but i have found both their regular and vegan formulas to work well at masking odor! The downside is if it gets on your clothes it can be harder to get out, but not impossible!
While important to acknowledge all perspectives, I think the “well why not avoid just in case” messaging on parabens could use more backing up. I’d be curious to see the concentrations parabens are harmful at abd if that compares to the cumulative exposure we have to parabens in multiple daily- use products Another important thing to note about parabens is that they’re used as a preservative so when buying paraben free products, you need to make sure you trust the company has used a formulation that won’t favour bacteria growth. One more thing - I feel like fear on parabens being hormone disrupters is used for ‘clean’ companies to sell products. Lots of plants that have extracts in products are known to disrupt hormones - also marijuana! But those ingredients fit the green clean brand.
An issue I had looking at Native was when you look at the physical tube of deodorant is lists fragrance as an ingredient. That is not on their website. I'm very sensitive to artificial scents. So when I was looking at their sensitive deodorants in my local food store I was disappointed to find "fragrance" in their sensitive line.
They do have an unscented deodorant that is a part of their "sensitive" brand. No fragrance listed in the unscented version although there is baking soda so I would be careful if you are sensitive to it . However, you'll find a lot of brands have more scented products as opposed to unscented or fragrance-free products as that's what sells and most people tend to associate smelling clean with "smelling good". For sensitive skin babies like me, I avoid all things with added fragrance lol then again, everyone has unique needs so what works for most may not work for some
I got a chemical burn from Native, the combo of baking soda and essential oils ruined my underearms for over a week. I also have the BO gene so all natural deoderants have been ruled out.
@@borkbork4124 omg same. I stick to natives unscented, aluminum free, baking soda free deoderants! Native has so many deoderants with added fragrance and baking soda even in their "sensitive" line which is a bit contrary to the point of making deoderants for sensitive skin lol. I have the gene that turns the pits on my shirt yellow so all commercial brands are out for me 😅
Since you mentioned the Victorian era, let me clarify a few things because, contrary to popular belief, they actually did care about hygiene (bear in mind many health related discoveries were made during the time period): Antiperspirants were not considered needed because: 1. The base layers worn next to the skin were designed specifically to pick up sweat and keep it away from shirts/dresses/coats/bodices; there were other accessories available as well for those that needed a bit more coverage. 2. Other things were used to prevent body odor, such as dusting powders that were either starch or talc based, along with ammonia for the especially conscious types (vinegar being a suitable alternative for those with sensitive skin)! Source: How To Be A Victorian by Ruth Goodman
I've never used it, I have serious allergies to a lot of things we put on our skin and never found one that didn't make me sick so I didn't bother. I've been surprised how vicious people can be when you tell them though - the same people who had never even once said I smelled would become outright hostile to me.
Occasionally using mandelic acid (plus moisturise and sunprotect the areas) seems to be useful if you have sensitive skin. Lol if someone gets hostile just make sure you’re wearing natural fibre and antimicrobial clothing (which everyone I know with allergies ends up needing to wear) and tell them it’s not a problem if you don’t wear plastic lol
@@lunar686 Lol. No, I see no need to use anything. Once I experienced the hostility I started asking people FIRST if they smelled me at all, I would say I was worried for an upcoming blind date and really needed to know for sure, let them get real close and take a wiff, then once they tell me there's nothing is when I tell them. I worked in a shop for a few years and it seemed to be about once a year the subject would be in the news and then hit the water cooler talk. I tried that bit on every new hire. If even one had ever said they smelled something I would have considered alternatives, but not one did.
Hmm, a reason why the victorian and edwardian women probably saw no need for deodorant might be the magic of wearing linen undershirts. Linen and similar fabrics like hemp are way more antibacterial than cotton. And you changed the undershirt daily if you could afford it plus there were things like underarm pads to protect your outer layers. Also looser constructed woven underwear instead of clingy thin knit jersey nowadays dries quicker and is more comfortable in summer. And as a pro tip: Just carry a fresh shirt. A T-shirt weighs not much and you have not just a dry nice shirt but also you can use the old as a towel after you washed your pits.
I have been using BAKING SODA as a deodorant replacement for years now & It freaking works! At least for me and my friends... I use it in the morning immediately after taking a shower and it prevents me from smelling bad all day. Best if the baking soda is very fine. I sweat, but i don't smell bad, even if I do physical activity. I wish it was common knowledge. I suggest to avoid using too much, just brush off the extra grains that didn't stick to the armpit. I noticed that when I don't brush off the extras, and then go for a run I sometimes get and irritation due to the friction of the grains of baking soda on the skin. That's why a very fine powder is the best in my opinion. Lately I've been trying lemon juice too and it does the job as well. You can also cut a lemon in slices, put it in the freezer, and use each day a new slice as a cooling natural deodorant. Hope this helps ;) (If I had not come across this options I'd be still using deodorant tho, thank god they have been invented and brainwased everyone into using them 😅)
I stopped using the classic spray deodorant because some claims it is terrible. Basically, the things this video show. For the first month, I felt that I smelled bad, but I knew that it wasn't a next-day change. By the second month, things got better, I stopped sweating like before, the smell improved and now I feel I don't need anymore. Another thing that I figured out is that trimming my armpit helps a lot. Maybe the most essential part to me.
Although you said that harsh deodorants causing more stink is only a theory, from experience, I will say it's true. I used to use strong deodorants/antiperspirants during the day and natural deodorants at night only because if I was just going to sleep, there would be no need to put on something that was very strong. One time, I ran out of my strong deodorant and just started using the natural deodorant during the day because I kept forgetting to buy a new strong one when I went out. Eventually, when I bought a new strong deodorant, I smelled horrible. I couldn't even get through a day of average movement (no working out) without having BO. Now, I exclusively use natural deodorant and I'm happy with it because it smells good and I don't have to worry about the aluminum risks. If you're wondering, I use Tom's Lemon and Bergamot scent
I noticed no one is talking about witch hazel as a deodorant. Sometimes I accidentally cut or scratch my underarms when shaving and can't wear deodorant at all until the cuts heal. So witch hazel helps me get by and it even makes me smell less than when I use deodorant. I use love, beauty, and planet natural deodorant and while it smells good it always feels like I have to reapply it too often throughout the day (and it can feel like it makes me stink more)
Skeletalfoe: Try a small wedge of a fresh lemon instead, it works. Dermatologists recommend using The Ordinary’ glycolic acid 2-3 times a week and honestly it works, no need for any deodorant. Also, a benzoyl peroxide wash underarms and your sweat just doesn't smell, it kills the bacteria that causes the odor.
@@spaceskeleton2000 I can't even use it anymore and have been on the hunt for new deodorant. I'm stuck using natural dove and it doesn't work very well. It's also extremely strong smelling and I'm very sensitive to smells
I haven’t used deodorant in at least 5 years. If you fix your diet and avoid eating caustic foods like chilli, onion and garlic (which should be avoided anyway if you ask yogis or Buddhists), and make sure to shower daily, you’ll never smell strong enough for people near you to consciously detect your scent.
Honestly i feel like a deodorant without an antiperspirant is pretty much useless and frankly gross. It's just a gel with fragrance oils that melts and mixes with the sweat to cover up the odor for a little bit. I know there's a big opposition to the antiperspirant ingredients that actually work nowadays, but i need them.
I’m surprised you haven’t heard or used Nuud!!! It’s a “deodorant” from Amsterdam and I’ve been using it for almost 2 years now. All natural and one of the most eco friendly products I have in my bathroom. Corn starch biodegradable tubes and paper packaging. One small pea sized amount is all you need for 3-4 days, so that means one small tube lasts for months. It might be a big step for some people because it takes maybe about 1-2 weeks of retraining your body, so for the first week or so, there will be smell, but after that, no BO at all. I haven’t touched conventional deodorants for 2 years now and I honestly can say that I haven’t had armpit BO since I started using Nuud (I work out AND I live in Malaysia - the tropics). And for the fact that one small tube lasts for so long, it’s super affordable.
There's some homemade recipes that are pretty effective. I've used one of those for 3+ years now. It isn't antiperspirant, just a deodorant. Still effective, though. Only downside is that you have to wash your underpits and reapply mid day if the day was hot enough. The recipe is: 35 ml of milk of magnesia (Philips mint flavor is very good), 15 ml of 30/40 ppm colloidal silver and, optionally, 1-3 drops of an essential oil to "flavor" your deodorant with some coconut oil to help mixing the essential oil.
Yeah, the weather or a place and the diet of the people there, have huge influence in how we smell, here in some places of latinoamérica you can guess what the person ate by their body smell 😩
Whenever someone makes the point that deodorant is unnecessary, I simply know they are not from any tropical county. I'll wrap my armpits in aluminum foil if I have to!😭
I actually make my deodorant with alcohol and baking soda, been doing it for years, really the BEST deodorant EVER. literally 0 smell, it works all day it's cheap, only 2 very safe ingridients... it's great!
I make my own natural deodorant for years, which works well for me and doesn't leave stains. Here is the recipe: Ingredients: - about 90 ml of starch - about 90 ml of baking soda - 6-7 spoons of liquid coconut oil - a few drops of tea tree oil OR lemon juice - some essential oils depending on your taste Mix these ingredients, pour it into a small container (better in glass), and keep it in the fridge for a while until it gets solid and creamy. Use this preparation like a cream. On warm summer days it gets liquid again, so you'll have to mix it occasionally. That's it.
I've been thinking entirely too much about deodorant lately. I ended up with a list of what's important to me (in a specific order). 1. Must not give me a rash (unfortunately this rules out all natural deodorants that have baking soda). 2. Has to work. I don't want to stink. It's deodorant not lotion. 3. Aluminum free. 4. Plastic free. (I want to save the earth, but not if it means having a huge rash, being super stinky, or clogging up my system with aluminum. Finding a stick (or spray) that meets all four requirements is ridiculously difficult. I usually have to settle for just the first three. Sorry sea turtles.
I gave up and started applying the glycolic acid toner I use for my face to my pit regions at night. In the morning I use my even less expensive witch hazel there instead. The low pH of these products are acidic enough that it kills off the bacteria that cause odor. No I have no idea if I’m killing good bacteria too but there hasn’t been any rebound odor. The witch hazel is rather astringent so it can help me feel slightly dryer (compared to using nothing) for a couple hours after it’s applied. I also like getting to just use the skincare products I already buy for my other body parts on my my armpit skin instead of buying a designated deodorant for it. Sadly they don’t do anything for sweating so on occasions when I do sweat at least there’s no unpleasant aroma, it’s just uncomfortable during physical activity if my shirt has sleeves and looks gross on the pit part of non-sleeveless shirts. I heard that if you don’t have body odor problems you can just DIY an anti-sweat product on your own with baking soda, corn starch and an application tool like a big fluffy makeup brush. I might try that
You know what also helps? Not wearing plastic. Wear natural fabrics (yes, I mean natural and I think this is a good word) like cotton and linen and viscose, not plastics like polyester. I stopped shaving during lock down (I know shock-horror!) and realised I didn't need deodorant as often. And then one day I got a deodorant on whim that is for whatever reason just a stick of rock salt that you rub on your underarms after shower (when you remember) and it works just fine. I have no idea if this has any consequence on my health whatsoever but I do feel a bit better knowing I don't put questionable paste on my skin everyday. So there's at least that. And no, I don't smell.
@@fish3977 Viscose was explained to me as a fabric made from bamboo fibers and bamboo isn't plastic it's a plant/wood, so why are you defining it as plastic? Do they add something to it during processing or alter it somehow?
In terms of harmful ingredients, axe and old spice are equal to perfume/cologne. I have MCS(multiple chemical sensitivity) and these 2 "deodorants" are a huge issue. If someone can smell your deodorant from across the room, you are going to make people like me ill.
Aluminum has been extremely conclusively determined to be absolutely safe to the point that it’s been deemed useless to even bother researching the topic further.
I never really used deodorants regularly, bc I live in a colder climate and basically never sweat(unless it's summer). No one ever told me I smell bad quite the opposite people like to hug me quite a lot...
I also like the Native plastic-free, and I feel like deodorant is a great application for the odor fighting effects of charcoal, with less downsides than in toothpaste, etc. I’ve been reading good things about Alpine Provisions and they also do a paper pack charcoal deo
Native makes some great stuff, but I found my body adjusted to it and eventually overcame their products. I have to switch back and forth between a couple of brands to keep my pits stink-free.
Mandelic acid. A few drops is all you need. Mix it into some coconut oil if you find it’s irritating when Applying it directly to skin. (It is a gentle alpha hydroxy acid). It inhibits the bacteria from munching on your bits & pieces. For at least 24-48 hours, it will eliminate all odor and there’s no yucky fragrance or synthetic smells. The best part is it can applied anywhere you want to smell like nothing at all. and it’s so cost effective. It’s really changed my life & I will never buy or wear deodorant again.
Anti-perspirant detox made me a believer that it was trapping things it shouldn't. Native actually caused a severe allergic reaction for me. I found an amazing brand of deodorant (yes, expensive) but I can't recommend it only because they can't stay in stock as is! Thank you for this video though to make people aware of the health problems associated with this HBA item we have all taken for granted.
Here's a cheap alternative to natural deodorant that avoids aluminum and parabens: put a bit of glycolic acid or better yet, even just isopropyl alcohol on a towel. Then wipe out your armpits until the stench is mostly gone. Then rub in something soothing (I like to use aloe vera) to soothe your armpits from stinging. Finally, spray yourself with your natural scent of choice.
I tried Tom’s natural deodorant and developed a bad reaction that left me unable to wear anything for a year or so (I washed frequently). Then I started making my own (whatever is in Native and other “natural” ones can be mixed together at home). So far, no reaction and no bad BO (it’s been a few years). My grandma just used baking soda. I saw an experiment done by non-scientists that found lemon worked well…rub a slice of fresh lemon on, peel included. 🤷♀️
Synthetic fabrics make body odours worse. If I stay away from synthetics I use deodorant maybe once a week, and I can wear trousers four or five days without needing to wash them.
Crystal deodorant for the past 10 years and it’s changed my life. No nasty goop feeling, no smell, no itching, the stone lasts for months. I used to have to use a thick layer of the “clinical strength” antiperspirants and I would still smell by the end of the day. This invisible and smell free stone keeps me non-smelly for days! Crazy
We are a product of what we consume. If we smell and can't control it, then it may be time to change your lifestyle and diet. It took me about 6 months to ween myself off of deodorant to a natural thai crystal option, but it's worth it. If I drink a lot of alcohol, I stink for a few days after. This triggers a response of understanding how what we consume is in direct response of what our bodies are trying to rid itself of. Just so everyone is clear, when I eat natural whole foods and don't drink or surround myself with chemicals, I could sweat in 110 degree weather and not have a foul smell. Think about that for a few minutes. The best smell...is no smell. Remove the chemical cleaning products from your home, remove the chemical products for your body, and remove the chemical ingredients from your food. It may take a few months for your body to right itself, but it will go away. Amazing!
Thank you for the enlightening video! As someone who's used Old Spice for so long, I'll be making the conscious effort next time to get something better for my body. As expensive as it might be, a stick will last for a good while anyways.
There's so many options out there as well! We're working on releasing videos with more alternatives for y'all, but please take the time to find a deo that works for you + you consider a responsible purchase ☺
You should know, much of the info is extremely cherry picked in this video, unfortunately. There's no actual link between antiperspirant and alzheimer's for example, but some studies do show increased aluminum in said people's brains. No evidence it's from your Old Spice whatsoever. The same cherry picking continues with kidney disease and breast cancer. I'd personally ask a couple doctors about it.
Used to wear an anti-perspirant old spice starting in high school because everyone did it and kept up with it through my 20s. All it did was make my armpits feel gross and as the video mentioned I began to smell worse and feel more sweaty after wearing it for awhile. I haven't worn anti-perspirant sticks for a decade now, I don't smell or sweat in the pits like I used to even when working out. If I do get a little smelly (which takes at least a full day of sweating and working out without a shower) I spritz or wipe the area with a spray of colloidal silver and some nice smelling oils like peppermint. Something as low as 10ppm and a couple drops of the oil seems to work just fine. Some of it can be clothes or posture too. Wear looser shirts (I don't wear undershirts) and stand straight with your shoulders back so they air out. Being in shape also helps.
I did the change to natural homemade deodorant just as a lost attempt, due to the Alzheimer’s paper, to see if anything would come of it. It’s truly eye opening how much exercise I can do now without smelling bad with the homemade one Set aside the harmful ingredient conversation for a moment, the homemade one is much more powerful than the traditional ones (you do sweat but your sweat doesn’t smell bad) In my case I just use 50% coconut oil and 50% baking soda. Works like a charm👌🏼
As someone who studies how research is done regarding to substances and effect on our bodies, I would stay keep using Deodrant and antiperspirant, first of all in chemical research around the world the accumaltive effect is taken into considerationm. second, the safe doses are always calculated per the most effecrive way of transmission (enjecting Aluminum in your blood). Rubbing ur skin with 1000 fraction of that won't have the same effect. Natural is not always good, and they simply don't work mostly (or you have to reapply multiple times a day, which might actually be adding more of the substances to you that are in natural products, and lastly: I think you should outweigh the risk, everything is going to cause you cancer, you might get it with no outer factors, and breast cancer itself is more intrinsic than extrinsic caused, so we would be making ourl lives (and others lives) too inconvenient for a really small reduction of chances? Use the Aluminum it won't kill you.
Whenever I used deodorant, I developed rash and itching. Eventually, stopped using it even though I was forced several times by my family to use it since my teenage years. I also agree on the fact that you smell way more with frequent application, coercing people to stick to it no matter what. It takes time for the body to reset the microbiome. Apart from Fossil Fuel industries, Cigarette Industries and Plastic industries, Cosmetic industries are the worst! I always feel we have never learnt to respect the nature of our planet Earth and in the same way we continue to treat our body as well! Thank you for making a video on this, much needed!
2 things: - bad body odor is control through diet. Eating greens consistently is natures cleanser. - using rubbing alcohol and a cotton ball is surprisingly affective. And very affordable.
What worries me the most is the cumulative effect. Health authorities always examine the single product, they never put it into context. Therefore it may very well happen that substance XYZ, which would be harmless if used in deodorants only, becomes deadly because you find it in your clothes and your food too. That said, the personal care/hygiene impulse is strong in me... talking about armpits, I find unshaved/untrimmed armpits dirty and ugly in both men and women. I know it's not true, but I still feel that way.
I think one reason why Victorians didn't think the new deodorant as something that they needed was because their underclothes took care of their sweat and they lived in climates that weren't so hot. Personally, I lived in a hot climate for a quarter of my life and didn't have the habit to put on deodorant and instead, stood in front of a fan a lot or showered and changed clothes whenever the chance presented itself because you might as well learn to stay cool and clean. Also, at the time, we didn't have the money to buy things we could do without
Look dude, I work in a shop environment, and there's a couple guys who don't wear deodorant because it's "bad for you" and literally everyone HATES having to work with them because they smell like wet dogs who got soaked from rolling around in rotten milk. I support their decision to be organic hippies but they should respect my sense of smell and only work together, preferably outside.
So, I am the type of person who does not use deodorants, shampoos, conditioners, body washes or anything that might be considered harmful to my health. What I do is clean myself with extremely hot water, use a scrubbing pad and shower once a day. I keep my clothes clean by washing them often (without dryer sheets as they add a layer of plastic to your clothes) so those don't smell. I've been doing this since I was about 18-19 years old. I've noticed that most people will have a weird response to me. Either I don't smell at all to them (which is normal) or they think I smell good. It's usually when I tell them my routine that they get weirded out lol. A side effect I have noticed is that (because I am a guy) when I spend a lot of time around my partner or potential partner, they will have heavy periods within a month or two of spending time with me. It's most likely because I don't do anything to suppress or kill off my pheromones and natural smells. So it jumpstarts the biological process for them. At first, I thought it was just them but I have had this happen with over 10 different women I have been around. Friends and partners alike. It's clear to me that the modern person is so gunked up with all of these chemicals that a single natural person makes them feel weird because we have suppressed so much from each other. Now, don't get me wrong. I DO own body wash and deodorant. I only use them when I will either be in a large group of people or doing something important. I would never go to an Anime Convention or similar place without properly cleaning myself plus using some body wash to make myself a little more pleasant. Anyone who doesn't do that just doesn't care about themselves. Big difference between being health conscious and just being a nasty slob.
This isn’t quite the level of content I’ve got used to from future proof, normally great stuff but here we have a lot of anecdotal evidence and a general point that “natural” ingredients are safe without actually mentioning the ingredients, some of the most toxic substances on the planet are “natural”. I appreciate the ultimate point of “we don’t really know” but I feel like this was really just looking for views by fear mongering without any real evidence.
I appreciate content creators that are surfacing a lot of the issues with both trends and long-standing practices. But, I'm always hesitant to 100% trust Future Proof videos because the writers seem to color all natural ingredients as "good" and others bad. This is not a healthy push. In addition to questioning unnatural ingredients, I wish you delved into the science of "natural" products too. On the other hand, I appreciate the realistic conclusion of "everything's doo doo right now, and we don't really have any recommendations at the moment," it's these kinds of moments that keep bringing me back to your vids.
This has always been my issue with them. Natural doesn't mean good and that association is usually used by the corporations they're supposedly criticizing.
Weren't they the same people who said "natural ingredients" labeling in food was a big red flag? so why not scrutinize non food products when they claim "natural" as well?
Futureproof isn't concerned with quality research or journalism. They're just doing the bare minimum to chase UA-cam views/clicks.
Hey there! We totally get where you're coming from and we'll work harder to present our ideas in a more well-rounded way moving forward. Our goal isn't to paint any and every natural item as the best while excluding plenty of perfectly good products, it's to present all sides of a coin to our audience and give you the tools to make a decision based on what will work best for you. If we didn't mention these claims against the ingredients in these products we wouldn't be telling the full story, but we 100% agree that we should be devoting more time towards questioning the claims of these natural products - because that's important too! Maybe we should devote a full video to the subject, and also dive into how/why the "natural" brands always tend to be the most devoted towards environmental action 👀 If that interests you, let us know!
@@FutureProofTV that would actually be a good video idea! For a channel that focuses on encouraging the viewer a lot of thought on what we consume, sometimes advertisement language is tough. I didn't mean to be a Debbie downer but we just looking after y'all.
I feel like you came up with the title and thumbnail of this video before researching the subject.
One warning about Native (and likely any natural deodorant that uses coconut oil): I personally found it worked well at keeping me stink-free, HOWEVER it left huge oil stains on my shirts that were difficult (and in one case, impossible) to remove.
Well, the main ingredient (by volume) is coconut oil, so... yeah. Not surprising. Have you tried pre-washing with Dawn?
I had the same issue. Ended up being less sustainable for me because it shortened lifespan of my clothes.
Not to mention I had to wash my clothes more often than before, even cardigans, bc the pits would be getting thick residue smelling like BO and perfume :\
Try Nuud or Malin&Goetz eucalyptus deodorant. Both don't leave marks on clothes.
Laundry: a paste made of baking soda and hydrogen-peroxide really does work for armpit-stains. Also, boiling water can help melt-away deodorant stuck in fabric. Also, putting laundry in the dryer with fabric softener can trap stains in the fabric. But if your wash comes out satisfactorily clean, then by all means use fabric softener liberally.
I had the same experience, not as good and ruined my clothes with waxy residue.
Then you also look into the '"Natural" ingredients in a bit more detail and you wonder if they are any better/safer. Some of the "Natural" ingredients are still highly processed:
Ozokerite
Triglycerides
Magnesium Hydroxide
Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride
On their website they selectively display the ingredients they want and make it bit hard to find all the ingredients. Bit dishonest..
As a person in high school. Trust me when I say many people need this.
As someone that has been to conventions, and on trains in Europe in summer. Eh... I'm still pro-deodorant. Even if it's not natural.
As someone living in EU and using public transportation daily, I approve this message.
yeahh, im am pro deodorant, natural aint always ittttt. subways, locker rooms, classrooms, work places, hell nah. shower and get that deodorant on.
I bet he's using deodorant
Might just be me, but personally I more often notice people who used way too much perfume or deodorant and smell like a perfume shop than people with bad body odor on public transit. Also the worst is probably the combination of intense body odor with the smell of deodorant added on top. In the end, washing is usually the better alternative to deodorant.
i release fresh poop in a ziplock bag at the LA anime expo just to add a little more manly funk to the smell cocktail there, its been 6y now and nobody has noticed so far :D
As a skincare junkie, I came across a dermatologist that recommended using the ordinary’ glycolic acid 2-3 times a week and honestly it works and I don’t feel the need for any deodorant.
I do exactly this, TO one too! That or benzoyl peroxide wash underarms and your sweat just doesn't smell, it kills the bacteria that causes the odour :)
Lactic or mandelic acid works well too,particularly for sensitive skin as they’re less harsh AHAs. Lol the trick is to remember to moisturise and sunprotect any areas you use AHAs on as any area you exfoliate can obviously become more sensitive and you don’t want to disrupt the skin barrier or microbiome too much or you open yourself up to a brand new range of possible problems
I do the same. It's great on the scalp too. I do it just because it is better for my budget, not because of any concerns with deodorants or antiperspirants.
I use glycolic acid every day with a deodorant brand called Lume. Its not the best smelling but its the only thing that works for me. For some reason I developed bad BO when I was around 22. Idk if this is related but it coincides with the time I started my first job and started consuming caffeine.
but there is a point where you're unable to sense your own smell
I clicked on the video to just post the joke about deodorants being unnecessary: "If you don't think deodorant is necessary, go to a gaming convention and get back to me after" lol
Been there, also the card games tournaments, but my friend says that is most likely because they don’t shower everyday or wash their hair often and or are using too warmer clothes that makes them sweat more.
I went to a Smash Bros tournament once. Never again.
Necessary for them
no they just need to shower and wash their clothes 😭
tbh I think it has more to do with them not wiping or washing their asses well enough.
In summary: "People don't actually mind the smell of body odor and deodorants have stuff in them which may be harmful even though there's no hard data showing it's harmful but I'm going to strongly suggest it's harmful."
I'll keep wearing my deodorant, thanks. I also brush my teeth, take regular showers, and avoid colognes. I hate strong odors from others and wish to return the kindness by not smelling foul. Only reason I don't also use an antiperspirant is that it flakes off all over my clothing and stains my shirts over time. Nasty stuff.
i'm a tawas user. tawas is weaker than deodorant, but it's natural and actually lightens the skin, instead of darkening it like deodorant does. also it's cheaper at least in my region
Good to know you’re ashamed of your natural self. Showering/bathing daily is enough.
@@agps4418 ah yes, good ol colourism.
I don’t mind body odor from women
I beg to differ I mind body odor ! Especially if you’re an individual that’s not really healthy meaning : drinking, drug use, poor diet , poor hygiene. My neighbor doesn’t believe in deodorant and she has a drinking problem where she has been fired due to her smell.
So just to confirm. There are no studies that say antiperspirant or deodorant are dangerous for our health but we should still pay $12 a stick to the same company for a "natural" alternative?
my pov is that even if all these products contain a safe amount of regulated chemicals as they claim, but if you adds up these chemicals in all the products you use, the result might be scary.
so this video is just suggesting to go natural whenever possible. keep in mind that "products" are only there to serve a "purpose", not necessarily a "benefit", especially towards your health.
No I think the point is to be informed and to choose whether you want to pay the 12 dollars
Definitely dangerous if blocking your pours from breathing and allowing to sweat
I think the emphasis is that companies making and marketing natural ingredients usually care about the plastic waste, environmental issues, and better/ethical sourcing of their materials.
@@fizzpoo Toxicology assessments of chemicals in everyday products are done assuming much more usage than just a single product.
Not sure if others have mentioned it, but regardless if it name brand or natural, those of us with sensitive skin, finding any product that doesn't irritate the skin is a win. For me it is the Dove Men +Care Clean Comfort 48hr Deodorant that works.
A great point! Having an array of deaderants and antipersperants on the market is what is best. From the comments, everyone’s expereince is different. I have dermatitis and every few weeks I get a flare of dyshidrotic eczema and it appears mostly on my hands and underarms. Putting ANYTHING on my underarms is a no go during that time, and I am still shopping around for a deoderant that works during my flare ups. And as for my hands it is even worse it anyone is familiar with this type of eczema.
i can see what you're doing Dove employeer /s
@@borkbork4124 my wife had similar experiences and after cut almost all carb she got really better.
Same old spice completely destroyed my arm puts it was so bad the skin around my arm pits started to dry and almost looked like eczema. I use dove men +care and never had that happened since then. The best deodorant I used was women’s secret although it’s marketed to women it works wonders for me.
Dove was also the only one that didn't cause irritation for my pits as well. It was difficult to find any that didn't do that.
I think that going not deodorant is a privilege, because there’s a lot of factors that affect your body odor, the weather where you live, the work that you do, the diet that you have and even genetics. I’ve moved from my almost all year cold town where you can re use your clothes a lot of days because you almost don’t sweat, had to move to a city where you can guess what someone ate by their smell in the metro, and have to ventilate my bras after use cuz they are so wet with sweat 😫 it’s the worst, my point is, i you are able to go deodorant free, without smelling and affecting the ones around you, I’m truly glad, but a lot of people need it, me included. But at least try to buy a more likely reciclable package, the aluminum spray bottles nope cuz they a lot of places don’t aceppt them, bar in plastic is so hard to separate te partes and cleaning it to recicle it so nop either, the least bad that I could find is the roll on, since you can take the ball of with a knife and easily clean the inside so you can recycle most of it, I know that plastic free package would be ideal but that haven’t spread to latinoamérica and most lower income countries.
Yeah, I'm the same. I sweat a LOT. I have to use prescription anti-perspirant. Obviously, that means I can't go and buy reusable packaged, natural deodorants.
The video isn’t about going deodorant free…??? It recommends using an aluminum and paraben free deodorant.
Target (or at least the ones in my area) has a deodorant that uses replaceable cartridges. There’s still some plastic going to waste when putting in a new cartridge, but it’s a lot less than what buying a new stick would produce.
using deodorant is a privilege as most of the world doesn’t, and honestly you can make your own from items found in the kitchen, all you need is cornstarch and baking soda
funny enough aluminum deoderant is usually the best
I stopped using antiperspirant deodorants back in middle school. When switched to just deodorants, I too experienced the 6-month deodorant fail. However, I found the best deodorant that has not failed me for the past 10 years… Plain old baking soda. Works amazing and it’s cheap!
I’m beginning to wonder if there’s been a push to “do things the way our ancestors did” or to go back to “the way it used to be”. For example, not adopting deodorants/antiperspirants, discontinue wearing shoes that feel like they crumple your toes, or even practicing mewing instead of getting braces or wearing retainers. It’s a clash between what is accepted in the modern age and what _might_ be what was considered normal back then. Hard to say since everything seems to have some kind of twist or gimmick that you either believe or don’t.
Nailed it! I feel the same
A lot of things were done “back then” because humanity was ignorant of the science behind it. So “back then” wasn’t always better.
@@VAULT-TEC_INC. Certainly. Some things just outright sucked the way they used to be done. But on the flip side, there's bound to be things that were better than they are now.
I think it's because now information is readily available to everyone as opposed to even 50 years ago. People are starting to realize how many things in our lives that we were taught were just standard health practices were just a load of BS made up by advertisers to sell a product no one actually needs. Case in point: deodorant. It is considered to be a standard part of good hygiene, which is defined as "conditions or practices conducive to maintaining health and preventing disease, especially through cleanliness." So much so that I, as an educator, have been asked to teach students the importance of using deodorant for good health! The science is unclear as to whether or not deodorant is actively bad for your health, but it's pretty clear that it isn't actually a benefit. It was just made up to sell a product no one wanted. The only reason people "need" it now is because you'd be a social outcast without it. I know this part first hand because no matter how much deodorant I put on, I smell within 30 minutes of putting it on. I used to to coat it on every 30 minutes because no one would believe I was "practicing good hygiene" because I smelled A LITTLE of sweat. Then my pits started breaking out CONSTANTLY and I was spending so much money on different deodorants. I eventually just stopped. Now I put on 2 swipes of some natural deodorant just to appease my wife and to seem "normal," and then I don't worry about it the rest of the day.
@@VAULT-TEC_INC. some things. Particularly actual medical practices. But a lot of products that we use to promote health were just BS sold to us by clever marketing campaigns.
I started using a deodorant called Nuud about three years ago. It’s all natural, and packaged in a bioplastic (sugarcane) tube. Once your body is used to it you only have to apply it every few days. I’ve gone up to a week and a half with no smell whatsoever, and I sweat a lot. I highly recommend it, though as you’ve said, everybody is different.
I’m on Nuud too! Just wrote a comment about it as well. Surprised so many people haven’t caught on to it yet.
I also love nuud. I don't like how most deodorants feel and I don't like the strong perfumes in them
@@jauipop Probably because of the price!
@@benjalucian1515 It isn't actually that expensive after you consider that you don't need to use that much. I'm now just use 2 small pea sized amounts once per week. And international shipping is free.
My friend recommended a salt stick deodorant to me a while back and it was amazing. Super cheap too, about $6, if I recall correctly. And it lasts for ages. It was weird to get used to sweating, as I can be almost obsessive about my hygiene, but it worked well. Until I dropped it and shattered it.
$6 is expensive, i get mine for $3 max
@@good-tn9sr One thing to take into consideration is how long lasting the product is. Just because the initial cost might be higher, it could even out long term. Not saying it always is the case but just a tip for any purchase in general :D
I got mine for a dollar at grocery outlet and a year later it is still far from running out, still hard to believe it worked so well
I use the same, and had the same incident. Lol. Highly recommended.
Contains HUGE amounts of aluminum
This may sound weird, but I just spray my underarms with a couple sprits of 70% alcohol disinfectant you can get at a dollar store every morning before I get dressed. It works for me so far and I’ve been doing it for years. It kills bacteria without leaving any artificial scent.
Not weird Old kings of France didn't bathe, they were massaged with perfumes. Perfume = fragrance extract in alcohol.
My fave deodorant alternative - glycolic acid. Put some on a cotton pad and wipe your pits with it. It doesn’t stop you from sweating but it keeps the stink away. Even during/after high-intensity cardio sessions, it kept me stink-free.
Hey I do this too :) Works all day.
it's on my list already, it's a AHA right
edit: oh, it's a tiktok trend... tho it is a good exfoliator.. (it's still on my list for exfoliation but not that much on deo)
@@abbiejoyguabna5320 yeah I just read that it was a TikTok trend, but I first started using glycolic acid in early 2019. I can’t remember where I first heard of it, but it was definitely not TikTok!
@@iseemelanie I started using it a few years ago too when I heard it's good for preventing in-grown hairs and lightening dark underarms, but then I had a thought that since it's an acid maybe it will prevent BO... and it did! It's cool that others figured this out too.
I'm feeling lucky because my sweat doesn't smell. Can't imagine having to buy deodorant all the time.
"It's good for you because it's natural".
So, how about the all natural ingredients of a fresh king cobra injection? Snake venom is 100% natural, so it has to be healthy, right?
I always hate it when people go for something that is natural purely because it's natural 😅
Just like the "natural" pesticide made from chrysanthemum flowers, that was used on all sorts of produce, including "organic" (since it's "natural", of course) will likely be taken off of the market due to health concerns.
I get what you’re trying to say but it seems like you’re ignoring a lot of what was said to make a quick point. It’s not like he claimed these deodorant and antiperspirants are bad, because “look at the ingredient list! It has *_chemicals,_* chemicals with big names that I can’t pronounce which means they’re *baaaad* “, he laid out clear reasons for why you might not want to use these products and all available evidence of specific ingredient’s potential harmful effects. If you want to challenge the legitimacy of that evidence or the validity of any of the arguments he actually made, that would be great, but acting like his argument was just “chemical bad” is obviously just a straw-man.
@@Acidlib While it was not my intention to make it sound like that, it does indeed sound like that. I do agree with you. I should've worded it better 😅
@@AnimilesYT oh ok, sorry if my reply came off a bit too intense in return lol
this channel in a nutshell
Crystal deodorant is worth checking out. It’s basically a stick of pure potassium alum. It’s debated whether or not it could have similar negative effects to aluminum in anti-perspirants though
Agree, I use crystal for about 10+ year and only now it is about to finish
Yes,I like the crystal deodorant because I only need to use it every about every 5 days in hot weather. But that tells me it is pretty potent.
same. Ive been using a brand called PitRok for almost 10 years. They just last forever.
It can work well for some people for a while, but my wife found it was good for a week and then ... stink. Everyone's body-chemistry is slightly different!
@@shinnam Is it really so? I'm asking because I never used alum before, and from the many reviews I read they say it's very light, like it's acceptable only if you are sedentary, if you move or sweat it's like nothing.
Deodorant without aluminium doesnt do shit, it's just trying to use strong perfume to cover the BO, making the result even worse
When I hit puberty as a teen, the BO hit so suddenly that it was sooo embarrassing to go to school that day and stink up 3rd period. Then there's my wife who only wears deodorant when she has an intense sweaty day. Most days she doesn't ever need it. And if she's a little musty, she just bathes and it's gone (doesn't help with mine)
Likewise. All too relateable.
Diet can contribute to smells.
I've tried a few natural deodrants and it was a big no from me- two of them gave me really horrible red scaly rashes in my underarms, one just didn't work, another left residue on my clothes, the rock one was okay- but then apparently that's high in aluminium anyway so I went back to commercial and I like it- it works well, it's available easily and I don't have a reaction to it. I feel like I don't smell any more now than when I was trying to stick to natural.
I would like to use a plastic free packaging, but I also can't deal with the wasted $ of trying various failed options and probably getting a surprise rash or two
Natural alternatives, greenwashing, and ‘clean beauty’- Lol yay for marketing. Parabens are one of a few commonly targeted compounds by advertising. And whilst the price of the product will go up, sometimes the safety actually goes down, as whilst parabens are effective as preservatives and prevent bacteria, mold etc that is harmful from growing in the product and making you sick, the alternatives don’t have the same demonstrated effectiveness.
Claire: Try a small wedge of a fresh lemon instead, it works. Dermatologists recommend using The Ordinary’ glycolic acid 2-3 times a week and honestly it works, no need for any deodorant. Also, a benzoyl peroxide wash underarms and your sweat just doesn't smell, it kills the bacteria that causes the odor.
I switched to using a crystal deodorant decades ago and have never looked back. It won't stop me sweating but it does keep the odor at bay.
From my experience, natural deodorant is all about smell. If you are somebody who sweats a lot, you either need to see a doctor or use a deodorant with chemicals in it, which aren't exactly bad, just like natural deodorant isn't exactly good. Everybody is different and that's one reason why there are so many different selections out there when it comes to hygiene.
AyySorento: Claire: Try a small wedge of a fresh lemon instead, it works. Dermatologists recommend using The Ordinary’ glycolic acid 2-3 times a week and honestly it works, no need for any deodorant. Also, a benzoyl peroxide wash underarms and your sweat just doesn't smell, it kills the bacteria that causes the odor.
sweating a lot is actually a sign of high cardiovascular fitness because to be able to run fast for a long time you need very good thermoregulation, and to have very good thermoregulation you need to be able to rapidly start/stop sweating due to small changes in body temperature
@@violetviolet888 That may prevent smell but it does not stop sweating.
@@ScyllasSimp Human bodies need to cool down and this is the mean by which it happens. You can mist yourself instead.
I encourage everyone to look into PROBIOTIC deodorants. The idea is that flat out using antibacterial ingredients kills not only the bad but also the good bacteria allowing the bad bacteria to proliferate faster! Using a product with probiotics recolonizes the skin with beneficial bacteria that eats the bad and cuts down on stink. I personally struggle with acne and no amount of antibacterial face wash has ever gotten rid of it for me. But since using a facial moisturizer with probiotics (i.e. introducing beneficial bacteria to my face after completely destroying all bacteria via an antibacterial face wash) I have noticed a major improvement in my skin and the intensity of acne I used to get. Using products that benefit the microbiome instead of wiping it out completely thus allowing bad bacteria to thrive is such a game changer!
What brand of probiotic deodorant do you use?
Occasionally using AHAs appears to have a similar affect theoretically in reverse to ‘probiotics’. Removing the fuel source of harmful bacteria (well provided you sunprotect and moisturise the area too lol). ‘Probiotics’ in cosmetics don’t actually contain live bacteria. They more contain tiny shreds and strands, similar to ‘peptides’ which were #trending a few years ago, and likely having the same effect of providing pretty good skin hydration. But unlike the live bacteria and yeast that is shown as effective when ingested, it doesn’t have the same live ingredients or evidence base as probiotics in the gut....If you have any regularly occurring type of acne/pimples etc that’s causing you concern it’s always worth investing in testing and diagnosing the underlying cause as it’s unfortunately an umbrella term where the type is definitely going to effect the treatment approach.
@@lunar686 i actually buy my moisturizer from someone on etsy who incorporates probiotics from fermented rice and kimchi preservatives as well as something called probiotic lysate. now im no expert in how or if her product works but as my original comment said i have seen an improvement in my skin since using it vs when i used a cosmetic brand moisturizer from neutrogena that simply moisturized.
i have read that some probiotic deodorants cannot really establish beneficial bacteria to the armpits because the type of bacteria they include is native to the gut, lactobacillus, so that was interesting to read.
but i do stand by the belief that recolonizing whatever cleansed area with beneficial bacteria is better than simply wiping out all bacteria with an antibacterial cleanser, allowing bad bacteria to flourish because they are more prevalent in the environment than the "healthy" kind and therefore recolonize quicker making us dirty, smelly, etc.
we ultimately dont understand beneficial bacteria because weve only just begun to categorize and study it, but i think its something that will become more prevalent as time passes.
as far as acne goes, it seems to be related to inflammation from my diet. so its not going to disappear any time soon but im glad to have found the moisturizer that has helped like it has so far.
@@debutchi 💯! The rates of atopic dermatitis have gone through the roof since the pandemic. Hopefully a lot more people are coming more aware of the role of Microbiota in the health of their skin. Yeah, unfortunately the research isn’t that great, particularly when dealing with cosmetics, and we’re probably still a long way off understanding it. I have however noticed that people take Microbiome to far more seriously when I explained that atopic dermatitis is technically a topical staph infection. Whilst obviously not a contagious kind, and not the only contributing factor (eg, filligran deficiency), I think understanding that we have good and bad bacteria always present on our skin helps people realise that eliminating a lot of bad bacteria allows even worse bacteria to thrive.
I am a little bit worried that the clean/natural/beauty Trend may inadvertently be exposing people to allergens and complications, But until the science catches up, we are kind of flying blind. Hopefully more people interested will mean a chance for a profit and then hopefully the science will catch up lmao. But it’s definitely the way forward if we can figure it out. I even came across a paper the other day showing how the treatment of the dermatitis features associated with psoriasis actually reduced symptoms of alexithymia of all things. So balancing it out may even have beneficial effects on mental health, particularly with the recognition of dementia as an autoimmune phenomena. Not to overstate the benefits lol, but embracing simple health concepts like taking care of the microbiota, even if it ends up outdated like ‘germ theory’ still saved lives without us having a clue why at the time
@@lunar686 I feel like dermatitis skyrocketing during the pandemic was largely stress related, not knowing whether you’ll keep a job or even survive to see another day seems like a massive stressor. But it all goes back to inflammation of some kind wouldn’t you say? My acne always surfaces after eating high amounts of sugar, which is caused by the inflammation the sugar causes in my body if I’m understanding it correctly.
And what do you mean about natural beauty trends causing complications?
That’s also really funny that you mentioned dermatitis and alexithymia because I actually struggle with both. Though the alexithymia i more tied to my autism, I have always struggled with seb derm but I think that’s more so tied to me diet (again inflammation). Care to link the study?
I feel like this video was going somewhere and then just ended. I’ve never felt that way before on a Future Proof video. Perhaps a Part 2 is in order?
I came to find a comment like this
Spend a summer on the Gulf Coast of the US and, I assure you, you'll understand why antiperspirant (and possibly deodorant) is necessary.
I have very sensitive armpits, and it took years of trying every deodorant and natural deodorant option available to me to find what works for me reliably and remarkably: sprayable hand sanitizer. Literally everything else causes a rash eventually (except Myro and Lume, but Myro was too goopy for me and Lume is just expensive and needs to be shipped). Within a few weeks of using the spray sanitizer I found that I needed it less because I wasn’t as stinky naturally! There are even some natural spray deodorant options coming out and if you look at the ingredients they’re the same as (much cheaper) sprayable hand sanitizer
Maybe an aha like mandelic could work if used occasionally with moisturiser and sunprotection. Sanitiser works, but it can work a little too well and kill everything, with people who use it regularly developing atopic dermatitis (which has drastically increased since the pandemic). Natural and moisture-wicking fabrics can also help.
Yes! I found sanitizer wipes was fine for me. Probably not great for the microbiome, but works for me.
When the COVID pandemic hit, and I started working from home, I thought it the perfect opportunity to ditch the anti-perspirant and see what happened, because I'd always found it uncomfortable and wondered if it was actually making me sweat more than if I didn't wear it. Three years later, I still don't use anti-perspirant or deodorant, and I can honestly say that I've only ever smelled my own BO a couple of times during that period when I've got particularly sweaty on a hot summer day. I tried a bunch of other lifestyle changes during the pandemic, too, including switching to cooking with as many organic wholefoods as possible, and I have a feeling a cleaner, more "natural" diet probably has some (positive) effect on the smell of what little BO I seem to have now. Don't be afraid to ditch these products if you're even a little bit skeptical about them, as I was.
Me too, I stopped during pandemic and I'm still not using deodorant. I do use perfume and I have natural deodorant for hot day, but other days I'm fine. I don't eat meat, eat lots of veggies, take care of your hormones.
@@ladyaurinot eating meat is very bad
I’ve been using salt crystal deodorant for 8 years now and I find it works great for around 24 hours when used immediately after showering. That said I’m not a very “smelly” person to begin with.
The product itself also lasts for many, many, MANY uses. I’ve spent less than $15 on deodorant in the last 8 years.
Most of those have aluminum salts AFAIK.
@@handanyldzhan9232 wuuuuuut nnnoooo! Like regular solid crystal salt listed as the only ingredient would have it??
@@AdamBA380 "Salt crystal" deodorants are basically potassium alum.
@@handanyldzhan9232 OMG what a fool I’ve been
I have been using WILD deodorant for a few months now and I am pleased to say that I've never smelled better in my life. They are refillable and the refils are compostable! They also have a lot of great smelling scents. It's a great alternative if you want to try natural deodorant and if you are worried about smelling weird. They are also B-certified!
I use this too. Actually, I heard about it from one of Levi and Leah's videos so I was surprised they don't use it anymore. Or maybe they do, but not while they're on the road?
Louise Geens: B-Corp includes Nestle and is not as respectable anymore. Try a small wedge of a fresh lemon instead, it works. Dermatologists recommend using The Ordinary’ glycolic acid 2-3 times a week and honestly it works, no need for any deodorant. Also, a benzoyl peroxide wash underarms and your sweat just doesn't smell, it kills the bacteria that causes the odor.
stopped using deodorant about 7 years ago. mainly for a reason that my sweating was so bad due to my social anxiety that I decided that if none of the deodorants and antiperspirants didn't help me, then I might just stop using it. somehow I became more confident because of that and now I almost don't sweat in the majority of situations. when I do, I don;t care that much, it is in fact natural.
I’m quite surprised basic salt crystal deodorants aren’t more popular. They work extremely well and are very cheap, it’s just a big salt crystal that you get wet before applying and it keeps all the bad bacteria at bay. 8 years now with zero complaints.
None of the salt crystals ever worked for me, unfortunately xP
@@Napalm_CandyIf you're switching from an antiperspirant there is a two week purge where you stink horribly of BO. I can't speak to if you just switched from deodorant though.
I've been using the same $14 salt block for about 18 months and it's been doing its job. I switched because of plastic and budgeting though not because of chemicals.
@@ryan_onlyyI tried for a while and I feel it helped with the smell but not with the sweating.
@@pablosanz7614 Yeah, that makes sense as salt is not an antipresperant
i don't know why but my brain just went "Imagine if this video was brought to you by Old Spice"
I think the relevant question with respect to both deodorants and anti-perspirants is whether or not the molecules are small enough that they can be absorbed through the skin, not whether their ingredients are "natural" in the sense of being something we could safely eat. Unfortunately, this video does not explore whether the ingredients or their fragments can permeate the skin, so this natural deodorant thing could, itself, be consumer exploitation. Anyway, the video title is fairly misleading in that it suggests some of these key question are answered. Alas, they aren't.
I also use Native. I like it, and while it's expensive it does seem to last a long time. I bought three tubes prior to the container redesign and I'm only maybe a quarter of the way through the second one. What does bother me though is how strongly Native leverages their "plastic free" marketing without actually committing to be plastic free. They also sell their deodorant in plastic and push to sell you a tiny plastic travel deodorant that you don't need. As well, their shampoos are all in plastic, as are most of their other products. (Besides bar soap which most brands sell in cardboard anyway.) So their product is good, I like that it comes in a plastic free form, but I wish they'd either commit more fully or stop marketing on it so heavily.
I’d be interested to hear a future proof episode on Lume, a deodorant product that was advertised a ton on UA-cam last year. Supposedly it would alter the bacterial makeup to be not stinky? Or smth like that.
lol...um Lume isn't deodorant for armpits, it's deodorant for your genitals.
@@KellyS_77 I’m pretty sure it’s for everything. One of the ads told a sob story about a kid being asked to leave class because of his stinky feet. Anyways, so what lol? It’s a related topic.
I've used it, it's quite an effective product. It legitimately does what it says it will do. It's expensive (at least as far as my budget goes) so I can't justify regularly purchasing it.
@@KellyS_77 lume advertises itself as an all over product
I think I read that it makes it so the bacteria can't eat or something? I'm not sure, but that's what I use and it's what I've found works best for me, and it doesn't leave gross deodorant residue on my shirts like most stuff does.
I'm glad this video didn't end in a solution. There's a lot of env't, social, & psychological issues around body odor and perspiration. Looking forward to the new channel!
As a stripper, I wear deodorant to work and reapply throughout my shift and really like the native deodorants which are pricey but smell amazing. Also the arm and hammer clear ones are excellent, cheap, and if you don’t have sensitive skin I recommend it for preventing ingrown hairs (glide over any areas after shaving 🪒 but don’t get it on the 🐱). I don’t really know why it works but I literally don’t get any ingrown hairs if I do this and I shave often . But for everyday, I really don’t bother applying deodorant! Not worth it or necessary 😅
@@trevoncampbell2744 yikes
@@trevoncampbell2744dude kindly get off the internet.
@@genehayes yikes indeed. 🤣 He just needs to work through somethings its not his fault 🤣
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@@trevoncampbell2744 I am sorry you feel that way about someone's profession. It's sad to see you view the world like that.
I now use an alum (not aluminum!) salt/crystal(?) deodorant. It’s just a solid hard salt rock that I just wet a bit and then roll around. It is odorless, doesn’t block sweat but it keeps me without smells for over 24hrs even in mid summer. The actual product also last me months for each piece.
Can you do a video on HUEL? I'm really interested in what you'll find about the company
To be non toxicly stink free; shower normally, dry off, but before you get dressed, put 1/2 teaspoon baking soda on a wet washcloth and rub in lightly to spread around the size of your palm. I use an empty spice shaker. Then, just rub into each armpit like you would when washing. Should be fairly wet, but doesn’t need to be dripping. That’s it. The bicarbonate (baking soda) will inhibit the growth of odor causing bacteria. Works for me much better than the chemical stuff. Can’t beat the price, and it very mild on skin.
I might give this a shot, sounds sustainable and effective
@@logans3365 what do you have to lose!
This is such an awesome video. I have only used crystals for ages. Never would go back. Please can you make a video on how to buy cruelty free hygiene products.
I've been using a natural and dirt cheap deodorant for years now: milk of magnesia / magnesium hydroxide.
It is mainly sold as an laxative but in fact it's just a weak chemical base. See, the reason why we stink is because the bacteria eat our sweat and poop organic acid. Organic acids are volatile and so they smell strongly (vinegar is an organic acid). Acids react with base forming water and salt. The salt is non-volatile so it doesn't smell.
Any base would work but it has to be a weak base (for example, sodium hydroxide would work, but it would hurt like hell and convert your skin and fat into soap. I think sodium bicarbonate should also work but before you try it, use it very diluted in water and increase concentration as needed). In Brazil, where I live, milk of magnesia is easy to find and cheaper than deodorant. It is sold in blue bottles as laxatives, but I just spill some onto my hands and rub on my armpits. Been doing it for about 8 years now :)
By the way, the acid that bacteria produce is the reason why we get dental cavity and why we have fluoride in our water. Our tooth is made of hydroxyapatite, the acid reacts with the "hydroxi" part and thus our tooth rots away. The fluoride replaces the "hydroxi" and thus our tooth becomes fluorapatite.
I try to avoid using deodorant because I think it’s bad for the skin and health. There are my simple rules what help me to stay odorless. I shave my armpits (hair absorbs smell, no hair- less smell). I have some rubbing alcohol with me and sometimes when it’s needed I wipe the armpits with a paper towel soaked in alcohol when in the bathroom. Also try to avoid running when not at the gym, be dressed accordingly, lose layers when needed, keep ac a little cooler when possible. Of course shower after the gym.
Definitely there are exceptions when deodorant is needed, however most of the days we can avoid it.
I also use from less to no soap when shower. My body naturally smells less, what I can’t say about the past when I used a lot of products. More products - more problems.
Shaving leaves less hair and less surface area for bacteria to grow.
You can purchase pre-packaged alcohol wipes. The medical community uses them a lot.
Loving your body as it is doesn't require plastic, pollution, the wasteful medical industry. A shower every other day (more or less as needed) is a kindness to others, and a worthwhile use of resources.
I'm obsessed with deodorants and perfumes. I want to smell good 😊
Your sent is the best sent for you.
Scent*
@@slayemgaming lol I did not even notice.
Same here. Love deodorant & perfume
Having been a person who sweats a lot without exertion, I always used antiperspirant. Ok, aluminum aside, a greater percentage of the active ingredient works better. BUT then, they changed that active to something slightly different (and guessing cheaper!) and then didn't work well at all. Finding the old aluminum ingredient is harder since the change about ten years ago. Some have TOO much and were very irritating to my skin. YMMV. Scent is an issue as well.
Dr Dray dermatologist YT channel gives good hints.
Here's some, including mine:
Use an antibacterial soap - NOT Irish Spring - a salicylic acid or benzoyl peroxide face wash - like Cerave Renewing SA Cleanser. Soap up your pits and avoid your private parts (it's a bit drying) except maybe the groin skin folds. Leave it on for a couple of minutes to kill the bacteria lingering in the pores and rinse. Putting deodorant over lingering bacteria will never work as well as really clean pits.
Wear natural fabrics - cotton, viscose, rayon, Tencel, and linen that breathe and absorb some sweat.
Do not wear plastic i.e. polyester, nylon, acrylic that do not absorb sweat and smell worse when you do sweat.
Shower at night and put on your deodorant/antiperspirant on DRY skin. Then, let it dry! Works better when it seeps into the pores to prevent sweat and odor tomorrow - while you're presumably sweating less at night! You can add more in the morning.
Wash your clothes in warm or hot water. I sure do not trust new detergents to work well in cold water.
Use Borax/Washing Soda/Baking Soda with your detergent and white vinegar in your rinse to get rid of ALL odors and bacteria. Wash Twice for those really nasty, sweaty clothes. Borax needs hot water to dissolve completely.
I use scent free Avon On-Duty 24 Hours Unscented and Almay Sensitive Skin roll-on or clear gel. Avon has an older ingredient: Aluminum Chlorohydrate 20.7% Anhydrous. Almay: Aluminum Sesquichlorohydrate 25%. I don't recall the new ingredient but it will be in most all other OTC dept. store products. I used Mitchum roll-on 20% Aluminum Zirconium (I think) forever. It worked until they changed!
so i worked for a company that was selling beauty products and all that natural, non-animal tested kinda thing but they were betting mostly on the idea that higher prices could mean for some people better quality, but in reality they were producing stuff for 1,5-5€ and selling it for 35€. So i would stick with my 2,69€ deodorant because the 13€ one might be the same with added marketing on top
salt works and is super cheap. salt water sprayed or a big salt chunk. You might need to reapply at night but it's really not bad.
Humble brand deodorant is my go-to deodorant right now. I switched to their vegan formula after finding out that I'm allergic to beeswax :/ but i have found both their regular and vegan formulas to work well at masking odor! The downside is if it gets on your clothes it can be harder to get out, but not impossible!
While important to acknowledge all perspectives, I think the “well why not avoid just in case” messaging on parabens could use more backing up.
I’d be curious to see the concentrations parabens are harmful at abd if that compares to the cumulative exposure we have to parabens in multiple daily- use products
Another important thing to note about parabens is that they’re used as a preservative so when buying paraben free products, you need to make sure you trust the company has used a formulation that won’t favour bacteria growth.
One more thing - I feel like fear on parabens being hormone disrupters is used for ‘clean’ companies to sell products. Lots of plants that have extracts in products are known to disrupt hormones - also marijuana! But those ingredients fit the green clean brand.
An issue I had looking at Native was when you look at the physical tube of deodorant is lists fragrance as an ingredient. That is not on their website. I'm very sensitive to artificial scents. So when I was looking at their sensitive deodorants in my local food store I was disappointed to find "fragrance" in their sensitive line.
They do have an unscented deodorant that is a part of their "sensitive" brand. No fragrance listed in the unscented version although there is baking soda so I would be careful if you are sensitive to it .
However, you'll find a lot of brands have more scented products as opposed to unscented or fragrance-free products as that's what sells and most people tend to associate smelling clean with "smelling good". For sensitive skin babies like me, I avoid all things with added fragrance lol then again, everyone has unique needs so what works for most may not work for some
I got a chemical burn from Native, the combo of baking soda and essential oils ruined my underearms for over a week. I also have the BO gene so all natural deoderants have been ruled out.
@@borkbork4124 omg same. I stick to natives unscented, aluminum free, baking soda free deoderants! Native has so many deoderants with added fragrance and baking soda even in their "sensitive" line which is a bit contrary to the point of making deoderants for sensitive skin lol. I have the gene that turns the pits on my shirt yellow so all commercial brands are out for me 😅
Since you mentioned the Victorian era, let me clarify a few things because, contrary to popular belief, they actually did care about hygiene (bear in mind many health related discoveries were made during the time period):
Antiperspirants were not considered needed because:
1. The base layers worn next to the skin were designed specifically to pick up sweat and keep it away from shirts/dresses/coats/bodices; there were other accessories available as well for those that needed a bit more coverage.
2. Other things were used to prevent body odor, such as dusting powders that were either starch or talc based, along with ammonia for the especially conscious types (vinegar being a suitable alternative for those with sensitive skin)!
Source: How To Be A Victorian by Ruth Goodman
I've never used it, I have serious allergies to a lot of things we put on our skin and never found one that didn't make me sick so I didn't bother. I've been surprised how vicious people can be when you tell them though - the same people who had never even once said I smelled would become outright hostile to me.
They are the mindless indoctrinated people
Occasionally using mandelic acid (plus moisturise and sunprotect the areas) seems to be useful if you have sensitive skin. Lol if someone gets hostile just make sure you’re wearing natural fibre and antimicrobial clothing (which everyone I know with allergies ends up needing to wear) and tell them it’s not a problem if you don’t wear plastic lol
@@lunar686 Lol. No, I see no need to use anything. Once I experienced the hostility I started asking people FIRST if they smelled me at all, I would say I was worried for an upcoming blind date and really needed to know for sure, let them get real close and take a wiff, then once they tell me there's nothing is when I tell them. I worked in a shop for a few years and it seemed to be about once a year the subject would be in the news and then hit the water cooler talk. I tried that bit on every new hire. If even one had ever said they smelled something I would have considered alternatives, but not one did.
@@burnyizland society
Or you just used the products wrong because you don't understand the ingredients.
Hmm, a reason why the victorian and edwardian women probably saw no need for deodorant might be the magic of wearing linen undershirts. Linen and similar fabrics like hemp are way more antibacterial than cotton. And you changed the undershirt daily if you could afford it plus there were things like underarm pads to protect your outer layers. Also looser constructed woven underwear instead of clingy thin knit jersey nowadays dries quicker and is more comfortable in summer.
And as a pro tip: Just carry a fresh shirt. A T-shirt weighs not much and you have not just a dry nice shirt but also you can use the old as a towel after you washed your pits.
Aluminum is natural
By that logic everything is natural because everything was made from something present in the nature
@@projectx5154 Aluminum is an element in the atomic table... What is more natural, unprocessed, pure than that ?
So is lead, mercury and uranium; all things that can kill you
I have been using BAKING SODA as a deodorant replacement for years now & It freaking works! At least for me and my friends... I use it in the morning immediately after taking a shower and it prevents me from smelling bad all day. Best if the baking soda is very fine. I sweat, but i don't smell bad, even if I do physical activity. I wish it was common knowledge. I suggest to avoid using too much, just brush off the extra grains that didn't stick to the armpit. I noticed that when I don't brush off the extras, and then go for a run I sometimes get and irritation due to the friction of the grains of baking soda on the skin. That's why a very fine powder is the best in my opinion. Lately I've been trying lemon juice too and it does the job as well. You can also cut a lemon in slices, put it in the freezer, and use each day a new slice as a cooling natural deodorant. Hope this helps ;)
(If I had not come across this options I'd be still using deodorant tho, thank god they have been invented and brainwased everyone into using them 😅)
I stopped using the classic spray deodorant because some claims it is terrible. Basically, the things this video show.
For the first month, I felt that I smelled bad, but I knew that it wasn't a next-day change. By the second month, things got better, I stopped sweating like before, the smell improved and now I feel I don't need anymore.
Another thing that I figured out is that trimming my armpit helps a lot. Maybe the most essential part to me.
You can't smell you because you got used to it.
The rest of us definitely smell you.
Although you said that harsh deodorants causing more stink is only a theory, from experience, I will say it's true. I used to use strong deodorants/antiperspirants during the day and natural deodorants at night only because if I was just going to sleep, there would be no need to put on something that was very strong. One time, I ran out of my strong deodorant and just started using the natural deodorant during the day because I kept forgetting to buy a new strong one when I went out. Eventually, when I bought a new strong deodorant, I smelled horrible. I couldn't even get through a day of average movement (no working out) without having BO. Now, I exclusively use natural deodorant and I'm happy with it because it smells good and I don't have to worry about the aluminum risks. If you're wondering, I use Tom's Lemon and Bergamot scent
I noticed no one is talking about witch hazel as a deodorant. Sometimes I accidentally cut or scratch my underarms when shaving and can't wear deodorant at all until the cuts heal. So witch hazel helps me get by and it even makes me smell less than when I use deodorant. I use love, beauty, and planet natural deodorant and while it smells good it always feels like I have to reapply it too often throughout the day (and it can feel like it makes me stink more)
Skeletalfoe: Try a small wedge of a fresh lemon instead, it works. Dermatologists recommend using The Ordinary’ glycolic acid 2-3 times a week and honestly it works, no need for any deodorant. Also, a benzoyl peroxide wash underarms and your sweat just doesn't smell, it kills the bacteria that causes the odor.
yeah love beauty and planet is a Unilever crap with mostly filler ingredients, doesn't even dry properly
@@spaceskeleton2000 I can't even use it anymore and have been on the hunt for new deodorant. I'm stuck using natural dove and it doesn't work very well. It's also extremely strong smelling and I'm very sensitive to smells
I haven’t used deodorant in at least 5 years. If you fix your diet and avoid eating caustic foods like chilli, onion and garlic (which should be avoided anyway if you ask yogis or Buddhists), and make sure to shower daily, you’ll never smell strong enough for people near you to consciously detect your scent.
Honestly i feel like a deodorant without an antiperspirant is pretty much useless and frankly gross. It's just a gel with fragrance oils that melts and mixes with the sweat to cover up the odor for a little bit. I know there's a big opposition to the antiperspirant ingredients that actually work nowadays, but i need them.
I agree with you 100%.
I’m surprised you haven’t heard or used Nuud!!! It’s a “deodorant” from Amsterdam and I’ve been using it for almost 2 years now. All natural and one of the most eco friendly products I have in my bathroom. Corn starch biodegradable tubes and paper packaging. One small pea sized amount is all you need for 3-4 days, so that means one small tube lasts for months. It might be a big step for some people because it takes maybe about 1-2 weeks of retraining your body, so for the first week or so, there will be smell, but after that, no BO at all. I haven’t touched conventional deodorants for 2 years now and I honestly can say that I haven’t had armpit BO since I started using Nuud (I work out AND I live in Malaysia - the tropics).
And for the fact that one small tube lasts for so long, it’s super affordable.
Oh, and another thing, to “smell nice”, I just spritz on a perfume or cologne.
Big fan of Future Proof. But after being in south Florida, there’s a reason Aluminum is in deodorant.
There's some homemade recipes that are pretty effective. I've used one of those for 3+ years now. It isn't antiperspirant, just a deodorant. Still effective, though. Only downside is that you have to wash your underpits and reapply mid day if the day was hot enough. The recipe is: 35 ml of milk of magnesia (Philips mint flavor is very good), 15 ml of 30/40 ppm colloidal silver and, optionally, 1-3 drops of an essential oil to "flavor" your deodorant with some coconut oil to help mixing the essential oil.
ye nah, talk to me after you went to a 2000 people 3pm conference in Karnataka india..
Yeah, the weather or a place and the diet of the people there, have huge influence in how we smell, here in some places of latinoamérica you can guess what the person ate by their body smell 😩
I dig the honesty in this video.
Whenever someone makes the point that deodorant is unnecessary, I simply know they are not from any tropical county. I'll wrap my armpits in aluminum foil if I have to!😭
I use Hey Humans and love it! sooo much cheaper than native and completely plastic free in the package.
I actually make my deodorant with alcohol and baking soda, been doing it for years, really the BEST deodorant EVER. literally 0 smell, it works all day it's cheap, only 2 very safe ingridients... it's great!
I make my own natural deodorant for years, which works well for me and doesn't leave stains. Here is the recipe:
Ingredients:
- about 90 ml of starch
- about 90 ml of baking soda
- 6-7 spoons of liquid coconut oil
- a few drops of tea tree oil OR lemon juice
- some essential oils depending on your taste
Mix these ingredients, pour it into a small container (better in glass), and keep it in the fridge for a while until it gets solid and creamy. Use this preparation like a cream. On warm summer days it gets liquid again, so you'll have to mix it occasionally. That's it.
I've been thinking entirely too much about deodorant lately. I ended up with a list of what's important to me (in a specific order).
1. Must not give me a rash (unfortunately this rules out all natural deodorants that have baking soda).
2. Has to work. I don't want to stink. It's deodorant not lotion.
3. Aluminum free.
4. Plastic free. (I want to save the earth, but not if it means having a huge rash, being super stinky, or clogging up my system with aluminum.
Finding a stick (or spray) that meets all four requirements is ridiculously difficult. I usually have to settle for just the first three. Sorry sea turtles.
Try Ethique
Native deodorant in the cardboard tube works well for me. I sweat a lot lol
I'm allergic to coconut so definitely get this :/ so many natural and plastic free options have coconut oil in them -_-
@@debbymendoza6875leaves stains
The truth about deodorant is that we all need it😂
Not true. Over half the population in the world doesn’t produce the bacteria which causes odor.
I gave up and started applying the glycolic acid toner I use for my face to my pit regions at night. In the morning I use my even less expensive witch hazel there instead.
The low pH of these products are acidic enough that it kills off the bacteria that cause odor. No I have no idea if I’m killing good bacteria too but there hasn’t been any rebound odor.
The witch hazel is rather astringent so it can help me feel slightly dryer (compared to using nothing) for a couple hours after it’s applied.
I also like getting to just use the skincare products I already buy for my other body parts on my my armpit skin instead of buying a designated deodorant for it.
Sadly they don’t do anything for sweating so on occasions when I do sweat at least there’s no unpleasant aroma, it’s just uncomfortable during physical activity if my shirt has sleeves and looks gross on the pit part of non-sleeveless shirts.
I heard that if you don’t have body odor problems you can just DIY an anti-sweat product on your own with baking soda, corn starch and an application tool like a big fluffy makeup brush. I might try that
You know what also helps? Not wearing plastic. Wear natural fabrics (yes, I mean natural and I think this is a good word) like cotton and linen and viscose, not plastics like polyester.
I stopped shaving during lock down (I know shock-horror!) and realised I didn't need deodorant as often. And then one day I got a deodorant on whim that is for whatever reason just a stick of rock salt that you rub on your underarms after shower (when you remember) and it works just fine. I have no idea if this has any consequence on my health whatsoever but I do feel a bit better knowing I don't put questionable paste on my skin everyday. So there's at least that.
And no, I don't smell.
...and the evidence against fast fashion and plastic materials continues to grow...lol
Viscose is a plastic...
@@fish3977 Viscose was explained to me as a fabric made from bamboo fibers and bamboo isn't plastic it's a plant/wood, so why are you defining it as plastic? Do they add something to it during processing or alter it somehow?
@@Lilacs4 It's a plastic made from cellulose from bamboo fibers.
@@thereandbackagain7034 It is cellulose, just chemically reformed into a smoother fiber shape.
In terms of harmful ingredients, axe and old spice are equal to perfume/cologne. I have MCS(multiple chemical sensitivity) and these 2 "deodorants" are a huge issue. If someone can smell your deodorant from across the room, you are going to make people like me ill.
Come to Livingstone Zambia 🇿🇲 and try walking around without deo in October. You won’t last 10 minutes
Aluminum has been extremely conclusively determined to be absolutely safe to the point that it’s been deemed useless to even bother researching the topic further.
Future Proof is now Proven Smelly.
I never really used deodorants regularly, bc I live in a colder climate and basically never sweat(unless it's summer). No one ever told me I smell bad quite the opposite people like to hug me quite a lot...
I also like the Native plastic-free, and I feel like deodorant is a great application for the odor fighting effects of charcoal, with less downsides than in toothpaste, etc. I’ve been reading good things about Alpine Provisions and they also do a paper pack charcoal deo
Native makes some great stuff, but I found my body adjusted to it and eventually overcame their products. I have to switch back and forth between a couple of brands to keep my pits stink-free.
Mandelic acid. A few drops is all you need. Mix it into some coconut oil if you find it’s irritating when Applying it directly to skin. (It is a gentle alpha hydroxy acid). It inhibits the bacteria from munching on your bits & pieces. For at least 24-48 hours, it will eliminate all odor and there’s no yucky fragrance or synthetic smells. The best part is it can applied anywhere you want to smell like nothing at all. and it’s so cost effective. It’s really changed my life & I will never buy or wear deodorant again.
Anti-perspirant detox made me a believer that it was trapping things it shouldn't. Native actually caused a severe allergic reaction for me. I found an amazing brand of deodorant (yes, expensive) but I can't recommend it only because they can't stay in stock as is! Thank you for this video though to make people aware of the health problems associated with this HBA item we have all taken for granted.
Here's a cheap alternative to natural deodorant that avoids aluminum and parabens: put a bit of glycolic acid or better yet, even just isopropyl alcohol on a towel. Then wipe out your armpits until the stench is mostly gone. Then rub in something soothing (I like to use aloe vera) to soothe your armpits from stinging. Finally, spray yourself with your natural scent of choice.
I tried Tom’s natural deodorant and developed a bad reaction that left me unable to wear anything for a year or so (I washed frequently). Then I started making my own (whatever is in Native and other “natural” ones can be mixed together at home).
So far, no reaction and no bad BO (it’s been a few years). My grandma just used baking soda. I saw an experiment done by non-scientists that found lemon worked well…rub a slice of fresh lemon on, peel included. 🤷♀️
The baking soda in most natural deoderants irritates me. I can only use the "sensitive" versions.
I only use baking soda too 😅 I'm 25!
I also only use sodium bicarbonate and it works well for me.
Synthetic fabrics make body odours worse. If I stay away from synthetics I use deodorant maybe once a week, and I can wear trousers four or five days without needing to wash them.
Just cause you don't notice the stench, doesn't mean everyone around you doesn't.
Crystal deodorant for the past 10 years and it’s changed my life. No nasty goop feeling, no smell, no itching, the stone lasts for months.
I used to have to use a thick layer of the “clinical strength” antiperspirants and I would still smell by the end of the day. This invisible and smell free stone keeps me non-smelly for days! Crazy
We are a product of what we consume. If we smell and can't control it, then it may be time to change your lifestyle and diet. It took me about 6 months to ween myself off of deodorant to a natural thai crystal option, but it's worth it. If I drink a lot of alcohol, I stink for a few days after. This triggers a response of understanding how what we consume is in direct response of what our bodies are trying to rid itself of. Just so everyone is clear, when I eat natural whole foods and don't drink or surround myself with chemicals, I could sweat in 110 degree weather and not have a foul smell. Think about that for a few minutes. The best smell...is no smell. Remove the chemical cleaning products from your home, remove the chemical products for your body, and remove the chemical ingredients from your food. It may take a few months for your body to right itself, but it will go away. Amazing!
Thank you for the enlightening video! As someone who's used Old Spice for so long, I'll be making the conscious effort next time to get something better for my body.
As expensive as it might be, a stick will last for a good while anyways.
There's so many options out there as well! We're working on releasing videos with more alternatives for y'all, but please take the time to find a deo that works for you + you consider a responsible purchase ☺
You should know, much of the info is extremely cherry picked in this video, unfortunately. There's no actual link between antiperspirant and alzheimer's for example, but some studies do show increased aluminum in said people's brains. No evidence it's from your Old Spice whatsoever. The same cherry picking continues with kidney disease and breast cancer. I'd personally ask a couple doctors about it.
Used to wear an anti-perspirant old spice starting in high school because everyone did it and kept up with it through my 20s. All it did was make my armpits feel gross and as the video mentioned I began to smell worse and feel more sweaty after wearing it for awhile. I haven't worn anti-perspirant sticks for a decade now, I don't smell or sweat in the pits like I used to even when working out. If I do get a little smelly (which takes at least a full day of sweating and working out without a shower) I spritz or wipe the area with a spray of colloidal silver and some nice smelling oils like peppermint. Something as low as 10ppm and a couple drops of the oil seems to work just fine. Some of it can be clothes or posture too. Wear looser shirts (I don't wear undershirts) and stand straight with your shoulders back so they air out. Being in shape also helps.
I did the change to natural homemade deodorant just as a lost attempt, due to the Alzheimer’s paper, to see if anything would come of it.
It’s truly eye opening how much exercise I can do now without smelling bad with the homemade one
Set aside the harmful ingredient conversation for a moment, the homemade one is much more powerful than the traditional ones (you do sweat but your sweat doesn’t smell bad)
In my case I just use 50% coconut oil and 50% baking soda. Works like a charm👌🏼
As someone who studies how research is done regarding to substances and effect on our bodies, I would stay keep using Deodrant and antiperspirant, first of all in chemical research around the world the accumaltive effect is taken into considerationm. second, the safe doses are always calculated per the most effecrive way of transmission (enjecting Aluminum in your blood). Rubbing ur skin with 1000 fraction of that won't have the same effect.
Natural is not always good, and they simply don't work mostly (or you have to reapply multiple times a day, which might actually be adding more of the substances to you that are in natural products, and lastly:
I think you should outweigh the risk, everything is going to cause you cancer, you might get it with no outer factors, and breast cancer itself is more intrinsic than extrinsic caused, so we would be making ourl lives (and others lives) too inconvenient for a really small reduction of chances?
Use the Aluminum it won't kill you.
Whenever I used deodorant, I developed rash and itching. Eventually, stopped using it even though I was forced several times by my family to use it since my teenage years. I also agree on the fact that you smell way more with frequent application, coercing people to stick to it no matter what. It takes time for the body to reset the microbiome. Apart from Fossil Fuel industries, Cigarette Industries and Plastic industries, Cosmetic industries are the worst! I always feel we have never learnt to respect the nature of our planet Earth and in the same way we continue to treat our body as well! Thank you for making a video on this, much needed!
2 things:
- bad body odor is control through diet. Eating greens consistently is natures cleanser.
- using rubbing alcohol and a cotton ball is surprisingly affective. And very affordable.
What worries me the most is the cumulative effect.
Health authorities always examine the single product, they never put it into context. Therefore it may very well happen that substance XYZ, which would be harmless if used in deodorants only, becomes deadly because you find it in your clothes and your food too.
That said, the personal care/hygiene impulse is strong in me... talking about armpits, I find unshaved/untrimmed armpits dirty and ugly in both men and women. I know it's not true, but I still feel that way.
I think one reason why Victorians didn't think the new deodorant as something that they needed was because their underclothes took care of their sweat and they lived in climates that weren't so hot. Personally, I lived in a hot climate for a quarter of my life and didn't have the habit to put on deodorant and instead, stood in front of a fan a lot or showered and changed clothes whenever the chance presented itself because you might as well learn to stay cool and clean. Also, at the time, we didn't have the money to buy things we could do without
Look dude, I work in a shop environment, and there's a couple guys who don't wear deodorant because it's "bad for you" and literally everyone HATES having to work with them because they smell like wet dogs who got soaked from rolling around in rotten milk. I support their decision to be organic hippies but they should respect my sense of smell and only work together, preferably outside.
So, I am the type of person who does not use deodorants, shampoos, conditioners, body washes or anything that might be considered harmful to my health. What I do is clean myself with extremely hot water, use a scrubbing pad and shower once a day. I keep my clothes clean by washing them often (without dryer sheets as they add a layer of plastic to your clothes) so those don't smell. I've been doing this since I was about 18-19 years old. I've noticed that most people will have a weird response to me. Either I don't smell at all to them (which is normal) or they think I smell good. It's usually when I tell them my routine that they get weirded out lol.
A side effect I have noticed is that (because I am a guy) when I spend a lot of time around my partner or potential partner, they will have heavy periods within a month or two of spending time with me. It's most likely because I don't do anything to suppress or kill off my pheromones and natural smells. So it jumpstarts the biological process for them. At first, I thought it was just them but I have had this happen with over 10 different women I have been around. Friends and partners alike. It's clear to me that the modern person is so gunked up with all of these chemicals that a single natural person makes them feel weird because we have suppressed so much from each other.
Now, don't get me wrong. I DO own body wash and deodorant. I only use them when I will either be in a large group of people or doing something important. I would never go to an Anime Convention or similar place without properly cleaning myself plus using some body wash to make myself a little more pleasant. Anyone who doesn't do that just doesn't care about themselves. Big difference between being health conscious and just being a nasty slob.
This isn’t quite the level of content I’ve got used to from future proof, normally great stuff but here we have a lot of anecdotal evidence and a general point that “natural” ingredients are safe without actually mentioning the ingredients, some of the most toxic substances on the planet are “natural”. I appreciate the ultimate point of “we don’t really know” but I feel like this was really just looking for views by fear mongering without any real evidence.